I like the cup guys. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. We have a bag of money. Are you? Do you want to try? Once we hit the Philippines, like there were real fears. There's a reason to be afraid. But you can mitigate these fears by doing certain things. And that's I think what we learned is that you're going to always have fears and they should be violent and you should respect them. But don't let it stop you from doing what you want to do and going where you want to go. We're in Port Moresby and we're actually just hiding on our boat right now. Looting happened in Port Moresby. Angry local police and national soldiers have stormed Papua New Guinea's Parliament building. But it's a bit interesting because there's police boats right here and we're meeting good police and the grocery store are telling us it's time to go. You know, you'll be fine to get there. But we just don't know. We don't know what's going to happen.
There's pockets of violence in every country, whether it's Canada, United States, Europe. But you don't paint the whole area saying it's all bad. And that's exactly what Papua New Guinea is. There are a lot of moments that probably would have been scary to us along the way again. But because we'd already done it before, they were no longer so scary. I'm Ben. That's Ashley. Together we did the unimaginable. We sold everything and then set off on a mission to sail around the world. Civilization. See you later. Welcome. Twenty countries later, in over 25,000 nautical miles, we're only halfway around the world. I have no idea what's going to happen. Subscribe to follow the adventure as we finish this last.
So we're going to do something a little different today. We get a lot of comments. Like, isn't it scary sailing out there or sailing around the world? Or we get questions like, what's the biggest storm you've ever been in? And this totally plays into everyone's fears. So today we're going to talk to you about our top scariest moments that we've had sailing around the world. Keep in mind, we're only halfway around the world. So our boat is currently in Thailand. It kind of got stuck there during COVID. We had a couple of babies. And in 2022, in a matter of weeks, we're going to set off on the second half of our Circumnavigation. It's going to present its own challenges. We have two more kids. We got the Indian Ocean to cross. We either go around the bottom of Africa or through the Suez Canal into the Mediterranean. So there's a lot more moments and times coming up that will be scary. But until then, let's get into our scariest moments so far.
The first time we actually experienced real weather, real wind, I guess the first storm, was sailing down to Columbia, Cartagena. There's an area in the Gulf of Mexico, which gets really strong winds in kind of November, December. And it was nerve-wracking leaving up trip because it has this stigma around. It's one of the top worst passages possibly that you can do.
We were coasting down these waves. You'd accelerate down these waves and the boat would start surfing down the wave. Then you hit the trough and you'd slow down and then you'd wait for the next wave to catch up and pitch you down the next one. Of course at night it increased in wind and the waves also seemed bigger. Were they actually bigger? I don't know. They were like breaking behind us. It was intense.
This is what it looks like now. Check this out. We have the tiniest handkerchief of a sailout. Mainzle packed away in a sailbag, which adds probably an extra knot. And we're doing six knots. Surfing down waves. I've seen up to ten. Basically no sailout. Pretty amazing tonight and the waves are massive. It was really hard to sleep because you were having your breathing light. The noise as the boat makes when you're going that fast down waves are intense. It starts vibrating in how many places. We had no sailout, but it was awesome.
Really? I don't know. I think it was a bit scary. It was almost scary leading up to it and then once you're in it, you just kind of went with it. Luckily it built slowly over the passage. By the time we were hitting those 35 knots sustained, it was like we'd already had 15 to 20, 20 to 25, 25 to 30. And then it hit the end. Then we arrived in Colombia.
From Colombia we made our way down to Panama. Beautiful cruising grounds. There's the San Plaza Islands. Local Kuna Indians live there and you trade what's called molas, which are like hand-sewn things for money. Money? You less dollars. The US dollar is very popular all around the world. And we made our way to Panama. Panama not only has the Panama Canal, which we have to go through, but also has a lot of parts and food. Because the next touch of water is Pacific Ocean. And to cross the Pacific Ocean you need a lot of food, water and beer. And Panama is interesting because it's inexpensive to provision there. So it's a fantastic place to kind of stock up on stuff that you'll know will be very expensive as you hit the Marquesas, the Tumotis. Before you arrive in Tahiti where you can replenish things, but you know, it's still expensive, but not obscene.
I think the scariest thing about Panama was driving there. And what happened? We're driving along in this rental and they have these huge ass median dividers. And they're not dividing counter traffic. They're dividing traffic on the same way. I managed to switch lanes just as these big ass dividers were starting. So I was straddling these dividers, the bottom of the car is getting hit by these huge concrete blocks. And I'm like, I gotta get off. Like I'm gonna ruin this car. So I try to get over to one lane or the other and the car just kind of bounces. Eventually I managed to get off. But at this point we're on top of a bridge. And the car managed to pitch itself off of these dividers and into the guardrail on the bridge. And it literally peeled open the side of that car on one side. Luckily no one was hurt. We're laughing about it now. No one was hurt. But as we blocked traffic on that bridge, we saw I think three, maybe four other cars do the exact same thing where they just hit the dividers and crash with hot tires. So I think the biggest fear when we were doing that was that one, we're in Panama City and it's dangerous where we are. And people are telling us to get back in the car and lock the doors. And two, oh my gosh, we've just crashed a car in Panama. And crashing a car is scary. And yeah, the whole thing was it was a scary thing. Driving there was scary. I called that a little. Whoops. What would you call that? Big was. Two flat tires. Hard destroyed. I haven't even had it 24 hours. Days like today where you're glad you haven't run so. No, it's glad you haven't run.
So next we crossed the Pacific Ocean. The Pacific Ocean is the largest distance we have to cross in the whole circumnavigation. It was 19 days at sea. And you may think that's scary, but it's called the passive ocean for a reason. It's very gentle. There's very few storms there during cruising season, which is a non-cyclone season. And nothing really happened. But we landed in the bar cases on the other side.
Yeah, and the Marquesas was beautiful and stunning. And the winds there actually were kind of a little bit scary as they came down the mountains. And like, I don't know, what do you call it? Yeah, like it was insane gusts that were just hitting our boat in this deep, deep anchorage. It was probably the deepest we've ever anchored in. And it was insane.
Well, we made our way down to Tahiti. And we did a really cool hike there on Moria. You can explain it. I think it's the scariest hike I've ever been on.
Yeah. We're not mountain climbers. We love hiking, but we don't like climb mountains with gear. This was like climbing a mountain with no gear. And I had no idea it was going to be like this. We got to the top and we were walking on a spine. I swear it was the width of Ben's feet. His feet are pretty big. But not that big. And literally you're standing on there, you put your feet down on the ground and you stand up as you climb up onto that top of the mountain. And you're like, oh my gosh, there's literally a sheer drop off on either side. That was the scariest hike I've ever been on.
It was interesting though that trail at the very top was troggled. Like people do it all the time I guess. It wasn't like we were first ones up there. But it was pretty cool up there.
After Moria, we continued sailing on to Huahini. It's an island surrounded by coral reef. Like many of French Polynesian islands. They always have an outer reef. And not only there but further down, we saw a couple wrecks. Kevin Rans had made a navigational mistake and ended up on these reefs. I think after sailing as far as we had at that point, you kind of get a little bit complacent almost. And you realize seeing the wrecks made me realize how vulnerable we really are up there. Like you're so vulnerable. You can lose your entire home, your boat, and your heartbeat. The problem is that these reefs come out of nowhere. And it's thousands of feet deep and then all of a sudden it's two feet deep. So if you don't have the right maps, if your GPS is off, if you make a navigational mistake by a few meters when you're close to these places, you're done for. It's over. That brought up a lot of fear in me that we really, in this kind of like a good wake up call to pay attention more. It's a more of a realization of being vulnerable.
So we continued on from French Poly, made our way through Tonga down in New Zealand, back up to Fiji. And over to Vanuatu. So at this point we kind of finished the self-pacific, the classical self-pacific cruising grounds. And we were heading into what's called the Western Pacific. This included places like Vanuatu, Solomon Islands, which we didn't actually get into, Papua New Guinea, and then of course Asia. And it got really interesting at this point. This is where the culture really started. And not that there wasn't culture before, but it's very similar or more similar to Western culture. The things that we saw in the Western Pacific were so unique and such a step back in time in how they lived and how they subsistence lived off the land and off the sea was incredible. And we have some of the biggest memories there.
I mean, I'm looking back. There were some fears as we approached these places. Welcome to Papua New Guinea. Good place to decompress after an 11-day passage from Vanuatu to here. 11 days. It's a long one. First impressions. It's one of the most beautiful places I think we've ever been to. The people are beautiful. The culture is different, again. I'm getting to the point where I feel like new cultures can't surprise me, but the beetle nut is kind of disgusting. You want to speak to that? When everyone has rotten teeth and their gums look like they're bleeding and their teeth are like red and yellow. Are those too big? Too big? Because I have smaller ones. Smaller ones. Smaller? I have smaller ones. Fishing line? This is okay? Okay. I guess I write about it and I read a few other accounts about how gnarly and disgusting the beetle nut is. It's disgusting. I don't know if their gums actually bleed. I think it makes it red. I think the mustard with the lime, which is just like two things really. First they take a bite of the beetle nut. They lick the mustard bean and they dip it in the lime. Which is a white powder. Yeah, like lime. It's not good for you. It's like one for the big one. It's okay. It apparently gives them a slight high mustard. Yeah. Mustard or lime. That's the mustard though. You're just the mustard. When you're like chicken. Or when the lime is not true. I'll try it. But I'm not trying it. Let's just put that straight out there. I have no interest in trying it.
The women do it here too, but I know I do not need to do that. That is not something I need to do. It's been a culture shock day. Tomorrow is a big day. We've had a few people come up and trade. It's very busy out here because everyone wants to trade with you. They want sugar and rice and rope and sail materials and fish hooks. I look forward to what this next week has to bring. I think we're going to show you some pretty cool stuff from where are we? Papua New Guinea.
We weren't actually afraid until we hit Port Moresby in Papua New Guinea. How's it going darling? Windy. Wavy. We're just coming into a major port where there's a massive amount of warships because there's an APEC meeting. So it should be interesting.
So to back up we're coming from Vanuatu, a very safe country. There's not much violence. There's some petty theft, but that's about it. If you look up Papa New Guinea, it says do not travel there. Extreme violence, riots, car jockels, rape, all those things they say are in Papa New Guinea and they are. There are very safe areas of Papua New Guinea in the islands and the Louisianaes, for example, where we had an amazing time. When you hit the big cities is when you really have to start watching them yourself. And also I think in the northern part in the mountains as well. So there are definitely areas of Papa New Guinea that you have to be careful of and watch yourself.
We only visited one area that was like this and it was Port Moresby. And while we were there some crazy stuff happened and it was because of an APEC meeting that was there. There was like gunshots being fired right on the street in front of us. We were staying at the Yacht Club because you stay at the Yacht Club because it's the safest place to stay. What's going on? There's a police car coming out of this way. I wonder what that's all.
So we're in Port Moresby and we're actually just hiding on our boat right now. They finished with the APEC but it turns out that there's been a bit of unrest after APEC. I'd spread looting happened in Port Moresby. Angry local police and national soldiers have stormed Papa New Guinea's Parliament building, shattering windows and tearing up furniture. After working to keep the peace while the capital, Port Moresby, hosted the APEC summit. The police have actually started the unrest.
So there was quite a number of police officers involved in protecting all the delegates and Canadians, Australians, Americans. Everyone's been here. The police are sort of on the bottom of the totem pole from what we understand of being paid. And they were meant to have an allowance I think for basically all the overtime and living here because some of them came from other places. Well they started a protest in front of the Parliament buildings earlier and they moved up over the hill down the hill and they of course got guns because they're police. And they're shooting them off and a bunch of stuff going on but it's pretty much the yacht clubs on lockdown. We're in the yacht club. The supermarket we were out provisioning we got oodles of groceries and we were told we were safe when we left and by the time we got back we were a little less safe because they're literally right across from the yacht club sort of getting together in a big group to do. I have no idea what.
What actually happened is we were at the mall getting groceries. They didn't need to leave, yeah. And some guy says we're leaving where are you going because he sees up we're white and he says we're to the yacht club it's a couple of blocks down. He's like no no get in my car I'm going to drive you there. It wasn't safe to walk. Literally it was like a block. Yeah.
So we got back to the yacht club unload put everything on the boat we just need to get fuel and then we can get out of there. But at this point the shots were starting to be fired and riots were happening by the police themselves. At the gate they were on the street on the front of the yacht club. You start to get a little bit of hints of how serious this is when the local staff start standing against walls you know and trying to get out of any kind of spray. Basically we don't know which police to trust. Like Ashley said the yacht club's on lockdown I think closed all the gates. All the staff were staring out at the windows. And we still need to get diesel to get out of here. So that's kind of our top priority is just getting diesel so that if we need to pull that we can pull that out. But it's a bit interesting because there's police boats right here and we're meeting good police and the grocery store. They're telling us it's time to go but you know you'll be fine to get there. But we just yeah we just don't know. We don't know what's going to happen. So yeah we're going to store stuff and keep a little profile.
I will be fighting truth and know that every policeman that worked and made sure that their names are on the list they will be paid out their allowances. They will be paid their allowance. Get it from me. That's what is going to happen.
Papua New Guinea was one of our favorite countries to visit. It is super off the beaten path. The locals are so friendly especially in the outer islands. It is a beautiful country. And don't let that deter you from going there by any means. Our fear is deter you from going there at any means. But do be careful in Port Moresby and do your research about what is safe and what is not.
I think the lesson here is there's pockets of violence in every country whether it's Canada, United States, Europe. But you don't paint the whole area as with a broad-strush saying it's all violent. And that's exactly what Papua New Guinea is. The outer islands on the eastern side are totally safe. The other side of Papua New Guinea and the Indonesian side is totally safe. So you just got to pick and choose where to go.
So after Papua New Guinea we made our way north to Palau. And that was an interesting passage too. Remember the dodging the logs? That was like a whole new thing. And that's where we realized we were actually coming into a whole different. We're basically we're starting to venture into southeast Asia. We're experiencing different things in the water. There was a lot more debris in the water which we hadn't had before. So hitting logs and you can't see them at night. So it was like always like. It was a bit scary because someone were bloody big.
One of the things that happens in the sailing circles is cruisers talk to each other. And you would think that they're. All cruisers are resilient and strong and don't have fears. But the fact is there is a lot of fear in the sailing circles. There's a lot of talk about one kidnapping and Abu Sayyaf and pirates in the Philippines. And the other talk was around fads, fish-attracting devices off the Philippine coastline. These were rumored to be huge cylinders made out of metal. Some stories were that they were from World War II. I don't know if that's true. That were anchored in hundreds of meters, even thousands of meters of water. But you can't see and they use those to walk-attract fish but also tie up to them and fish off of them.
So we just came across our first Filipino big fishing boat. It looks kind of like a work-a-new. It has huge outrakers on it. We're like over 200 miles offshore. And this thing is out here. And then there's little like, I don't know, bank has around it. This is insane. They're out here in the middle of nowhere. Well, I guess we are too. But still, it's cool. It's a totally new world. We haven't come across fishing boats that look like this yet. I mean, we expected them. We've seen them in pictures. But it's really quite cool. They're huge. They're very, very, very, very big. Outrager style. Oh, it looks like a giant triangle when it's face-on to you. We'll see what tonight brings. Hopefully these guys are lit up at night. Hopefully we can spot them on the radar. But it's just afternoon, early afternoon now. So we have another, we'll knock off another like 50 miles before dark. And then we'll be 150 miles closer to shore, which is interesting. That'll be a busy night, I think. No napping tonight. And you know what? It's true. They are there. So, I mean, you're playing a bit of roulette going. And what we were told was that, you know, you shouldn't sail unless it's a full moon, so you can see these things. And, you know, we were just, there was like kind of this huge fear put into us of these fads. We mitigated our risk by approaching the field being coastline during daylight, so that we dropped anchor basically at night, which is not typically something we do. We want to leave as much light as possible as we approach land. But we ended up seeing some of these fads and there were Filipino fishing boats tied up to them. And yeah, they would have gone some damage if we'd hit them. And we actually saw them the night before. They're so far offshore. Like it was, you're like, Oh, oh geez. Because they show up on radar with, when a boat's attached to them, they pop up on radar. If there's no boat attached to them, I don't think you'd see them. So it is something, absolutely, that is something to be cautious of, respectful of, but don't let it stop you from going there. None of those things should stop you from going there. The Philippines was one of our favorite places. Philippines is our number one spot, I'd say, in our whole circumnavigation. We'll be going back there on the second circumnavigation.
So we didn't end up hitting any fads. We had a beautiful time in the Philippines. But the next story kind of comes when we left the Philippines. We made a way down the Mindana coastline and into what's known as the Sulu Sea. The Sulu Sea is known to be harboring Abu Sayyaf. There's been actual sailors kidnapped by them and beheaded due to ransom demands not being met. So we were very nervous. To the point of being scared, I'd say, so we ran dark at night. All the lights were off on the boat, both inside and running lights. We had radar on.
Sailing offshore is basically just hours and hours of boredom punctuated by moments of sheer terror. Not much goes on out here. There's a bunch of water, some birds, maybe some fish. Out here in the Pacific, there's not that many boats. The occasional tanker, maybe some illegal fishing vessels. And honestly, you don't really want to bump into anyone. It's pretty remote. What's going on? We're just off the coast of Mindana out here. There's a couple guys here. I think they want some food or something. We're going to have a couple of levels. And this tiny little boat is kind of crazy, man. It's pretty cute looking. And also it's pretty rough right now. It's really rough out.
Given the risk curve, is there a shell here? Yes. There's a huge current going down the coast of Mindana out. These guys are coming up beside us. There's a mothership way. You can't see it way off there. There's a tiny little boat. They're happy. They're waving. We're going to go pass some Ritz crackers, some apples. And maybe some water. I don't know. Poor guys. Rock out here. I don't know if I even want fish, but we'll throw them a couple of cans of tuna too. That is probably given them more, man. I guess they're going back to the mothership. That is absolutely nuts. There's a story of another country that gave these guys something. Not these guys, different guys. And then they used to be swarmed by so many more. Uh oh. We'll see it more. Crazy little boat though. Southern Philippines has different fishing boats. Those are like, we call them the slipper boats. They're cool. And it turns out we ended up having some really wonderful interactions with some fishermen heading down the Philippines coastline. They were not pirates. They were fishermen. We got to give them more. They came back and they're giving us a fish. I'm going to give them duck coffee. This is a dance. Three. Three. Three. Three. cabbage. eating netanand, carrot soup. Musical Hunt Note, Gotta do not catch. Little skits now. They are all coffees. Pretty K I just finally fisherman wanted to trade food for fish.
Once we hit the Philippines we were having to, like there were real fears. There's a reason to be afraid. But you can mitigate these fears by doing certain things. And that's I think what we learned is that you're gonna always have fears and they should be valid and you should respect them. But don't let it stop you from doing what you want to do and going where you want to go. As long as you kind of take the approach that you mitigate these things, right? So our mitigation tactic for the Philippines was to enter the Philippines from the east, go all the way across to the west to El Nido, the place you want to see. And then instead of heading straight south to Indonesia we headed back east and then south to avoid the hottest spot for the Abu Sayyaf. And it worked out beautifully. We didn't have any close calls. There was maybe one incident where I think it was a huge fishing freer that came at us, charged us in the middle of the night. But we didn't have our running lights on as soon as we turned them on. He swerved and avoided us. So he's probably just checking us out, maybe playing with us a little bit, telling us to turn our lights on. And that's about it.
And then we made it to Indonesia, which was a whole new world, a game. And it was beautiful there. We cruised through Raja Ampat area to check in at Amban. And we stopped at some beautiful areas along the way because we didn't want to be sailing at night there. Took a, you know. Took some time to get to the check in. And one of the stops that we did just before we hit Amban, we couldn't go through this little passage at night, otherwise we probably would have kept going to check in. There was no anchorage listed anywhere. And it was like, I don't think so. I don't think any sailboats anchor in that area normally. And.
It got a little hairy for a second there. Well, it was definitely a new experience for a nighttime thing. So it's like, we're in this, we're quite offshore. There's a village way off in the corner. And we're anchored off these little uninhabited islands. And we just thought, okay, this is great. We're alone for the night and we're not, we didn't think twice about it.
But it's a pretty shallow area that we were anchored in. So we dropped anchor just before dark and decided to, you know, make some dinner and go by our nightly routine. All of a sudden, all these bankers, bankers are just long, five or less boats open. Come out, it's kind of near us and. Start fishing, banar really fishing. It gets darker and darker and then once it's completely dark, they come up to our boat. Hello. We got a lot of fishing minerals. I'm not sure what's going on. Where's the fish? You have fish? No fish? This is called Francois. With compressor? Yes, yes. Yalam.
I asked them what they're doing. They're saying they're fishing. I'm like, where's the fish? I don't see any fish. They say compressor, compressor. I'm like, okay, so you're going to do, you know, go down with this, snoop up basically. So I didn't really get it. And we were very nervous. I mean, actually he's wearing a negligible. I was not wearing a negligible. Whatever, some cover up. And there's 11 dudes. They're just coming to check out the boat. I don't think they got. No one stopped here in Norway. I don't think they're going to do this like this. Yeah. All right, a lot of boats, sea boats. Come on, come on, come on, come on. I'm like, come on guys. Come on, come on, come on. Are you ready? No, I'm not ready. You should go to the English.
They try to climb on our boat because I think they literally just want to get selfies. I tell them no, get off the boat. That's not okay. You can't climb onto my property. So they dangle off the back step for a while. Because we were scared. We're trying to communicate. And they can't speak English. We can't speak Bahasa, which is what their language is. No English. No English. No English. Language. Where do you know? You speak Islamah. Indonesian. Indonesian. Indonesian. Yeah, no Indonesian. No Indonesian. No Indonesian. No Indonesian.
Ah. We can only make signals. No. No, it's not. It's not. It's not. Table. You say all. Yeah. It's like. What's that again? Oh, look at that. Do you do, uh, Pawnes? Do you like the mic? Yeah. No, no, no. No. Ah, what do you do? What do you do? A scare fish. A knife. Yeah, I put things in process. Oh, cool. Cool. Oh, it's kind of those cones. Can I see? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay. You make these cones together. Single action. You're very, very easy. Yeah, you're kind of. Do you ever sell this? I'm going to buy this one. I'm going to buy this one. I'm going to buy it. I buy it. Yeah. No? Oh, no. He needs it for fishing. Oh, oh, no. I'm going to buy it. I'm going to buy it. You want to try it? No. No. No. No. Very nice. This is a gaga. It's a gaga. It's a gaga. It's a gaga. It's a gaga. Yeah. Ben, you want one? I want one. Yeah. You want a trade? A trade? A trade? I give you something and you give me a gun? No. No. Ah, cookies. Now it looks like two for a package. It's a little bit of a package. Yeah. For you. For you. Ah. And that. Yeah. We start to trade items. So we give them cookies. We give them what's called costumes. They're like clothing. If we give them, what else do we give them? Oh, some flippers and stuff. What's your name? Oh. My name was Usman. My name was Usman. Usman. I'm Ben. Ben. Yeah. And these are your friends? Australia. Canada. Canada. Canada. Yeah. For the cold. Canada. Me. Me. Mr. Do. Do. Let's see. Channel. One costume but I have more T-shirts. T-shirts? Yes. T-shirts? Okay, wait. Let me.
What has just happened, Ash? Three boat loads of guys came up and we didn't know what they want. We're a little nervous actually. We're just making dinner at Starcoat now. Probably like seven. We got the quarantine flag up. So we're just waiting to do the clearing. And then you just want to trade. Check this out. Check out what I got. He's been wanting one of these for a long time. So I traded my mother-in-law's flippers like her fins for a single action spirit gun. These are really cool.
I first saw these in Kalau. It was, I think, one of the most wonderful experiences we've ever had. Interacting with locals which was set up as this really tense moment at the beginning. And then turn it into this beautiful and way of communicating through trade but not being able to communicate verbally. And they were pretty stoked on things that they got. And we were super stoked. And then they came back later and offered us fish. It was really one of the most interesting, it turned out to be one of the most interesting experiences we've had. And it started off definitely a little bit nerve-wracking. Yeah. No nerve-wracking. One of our favorite and biggest memories of the whole circle navigation I'd say so far. Yeah.
Oh, let's see. Just wait for it. And with that we conclude our scariest moments of sailing around the world. So far, again, we're only halfway. So it's going to get pretty interesting on the second half of the circle navigation. We've got two kids now. And I think there's going to be different fears that I've got to go along with sailing. So kids falling overboard and big seas and want to do with them when there's huge seas. So there's a lot, it's like, again, it's first, right? It's that first time you hit those giant seas. It's that first time you hit that bottom. It's the first time you hit that rock. It's the first time you encounter that new culture. It's the first time you're cruising in an area where there's fads. So first are scary. And I think that's what we're kind of concluding from this. It's like, don't be afraid to go out there because as soon as that first one's over, it's not easy. But your fears go away, your sort of irrational fears go away. If we'd been so afraid that we'd never left that dog, we wouldn't be here today. I think that's a great way to summarize it. There's a cost to every decision, whether you go or you don't go. If you go, you're going to have possibilities of getting a reef, a possibility of getting robbed. If you don't go, there's other consequences such as not living the life you want to live. And that's something that I don't think we will ever entertain because life is really short. So we mitigate our fears. Pound to that. And sometimes I'm the one who's terrified, sometimes Ben's the one who's terrified. What's naming your fear is something that really helps because it puts it on the table and then you can talk about it. And finally, once you overcome each of these fears, overcome each of these steps along the way, you gain confidence in the ability of yourself, the ability of your crew, and your boat. And with that, you can aim for bigger horizons for the horizons and do it with confidence. You're still going to have scary moments. Yes. Like hitting the rock. Like you're wifey all night. Scary.
Like sailing off with 200, too. Yeah. Behind the scenes, we're packing, we're moving out of our apartment that we rented and we're ordering parts for our boat, that's in Thailand. We'll be back in January. If you want to follow along behind the scenes, you can do that on Patreon. Otherwise, we're going to try and come up with a few more episodes before we get back to our boat and hope you enjoy. Thanks for watching. Thanks for following along and we'll see you in Thailand so soon. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.