Hey everybody Rob Manward here and today we are going to be reviewing Tesla's Q2 earnings report that's going to come out here in a few minutes after market close. If you are joining this later, of course you can look at the timestamps down below. That will jump you ahead to the point in time where earnings actually come out.
Before that obviously we still got a little bit of waiting to do so we're just going to kind of hang out for a bit and await market close and then the earnings report shortly thereafter. It could be, it looked like it was going to be a photo finish here, whether or not Tesla would finish positive for the day or not. But now it looks like we've got about a half a percent to make up in the last couple of minutes so we'll continue to watch the stock for the last couple of minutes before close. See if we get a green finish but otherwise we're just going to kind of be refreshing in IR page. I've got a link here that hopefully leads to the Q2 report as well. And then obviously we can check on Twitter and see, you know, sometimes the link gets posted there first before it actually shows up on my end. So we'll see. But happy to have you guys here. Happy to be looking forward to another earnings report.
Let's flip over to Excel just very quickly and kind of run through some of the stuff that we talked about in the preview episode yesterday. Give me one second. I think I've got everything all set up correctly. A lot of other stuff going on today too. Busy time but looking forward to this.
So when we do get the actual numbers, of course we'll read through the letter, look at everything that Tesla provides us first, then we'll go through the financials and update our summary sheet here with some of Tesla's actual financial results. You can compare that to my forecast, compare that to analyst consensus, see how my forecast comes in versus it and then also the consensus versus the actual. So that'll be what we're looking at in a few minutes. Yeah, we'll see how Tesla does.
So a couple things that I'm keeping an eye on. Interesting, you know, what I'll be probably most interesting is average selling price. So I'm projecting that to decline by a couple thousand dollars, quarter over quarter. Last quarter was a steep drop, four thousand dollars, quarter over quarter. Hopefully we see some average costs of goods sold, decline as well. So we've got both of those factored in and then got a little calculator down here. If you remember the Q1 earnings report had a little bit of trouble with getting that calculated correctly right off the bat. So hopefully we've got everything that we need there to do that quickly once we get the results.
Thank you, Winston. Wow. That's a Tesla share. Perfect. I really appreciate that and I will put it directly there as you as you intend. You have my you have my promise on that one. So Winston always very supportive. Really appreciate that.
Alright. So we've got about a minute left here. Let's flip back to the browser, see where things are at. I should have mentioned this earlier, but after we get the earnings report, we'll get the earnings call about an hour and a half after market close. There is a link down in the description to the earnings call where we'll watch it together or listen to it together. I'll take notes as Tesla is having the call and then stick around after and we'll do a little bit of a recap and some thoughts on on that after that call.
Alright. So we'll flip back here. And unfortunately, head in the other way, but obviously it doesn't mean too much in terms of where things close right now as most of the most of the action for today is going to come from the earnings report. And it looks like we did indeed closing the red. So it's a down 7 tenths of a percent on the day closing at 291 26 NASDAQ up 0.03%. So barely in the green, the Tesla not quite there. So we'll see if the weight begins. Hopefully not too long. Tesla's been getting us out within five minutes or so of market close. So we'll just kind of hang out until then and F five or command R depending on your choice of computer. And we'll just see if we get anything posted here soon. If you guys have any questions while we're waiting, feel free to throw those in the chat right now.
And I'll keep an eye on that. This is the second best part of the day, the second most action filled part of the day trailing only when we flip to Excel. And I've you guys can watch me fill out numbers on a spreadsheet. I don't know which one is more exciting. The refreshing or the number filling, but both peak entertainment points during the day today. So it doesn't look like anything yet.
Usually our first indication ends up being the sort of algorithm reactions to whatever the EPS number or maybe the revenue number is depending on how those those algorithms are set up. So sometimes we see something jump in the after hour session one way or the other. And that kind of indicates that the report might be out. But we have seen little, I guess, head fakes of that before where it jumps and then thurnings are not actually out. So I don't know what kind of games are going on there, but a couple minutes after close doesn't look like we've got anything yet.
Avatrode LLC, thank you. Really appreciate that. Thank you for your sustained excellence in Tesla commentary. Very kind of words. Thank you. I do apologize for the sirens guys. I know that it's not ideal. It's just part of living in a city, unfortunately.
Very limited control on that. Alright, I'm keeping an eye on comments here. We'll see. You know, hopefully everyone kind of trolls me every quarter and says things are released when they're not released. But I do appreciate any help when you guys see it. Sometimes that happens first. So I don't necessarily want to flip back to Excel, but if anyone did not see my preview episode, I don't really like focusing on earnings per share, but since that's whatever it looks at analysts are expecting on average 80 cents non gap earnings per share, which would be slightly down quarter over quarter. I'm expecting 83 cents again, very slightly down quarter over quarter. But otherwise our revenue numbers were pretty similar. Operating expense forecast or pretty similar. So I'm relatively close to consensus, but we'll see.
I know there's some people on Twitter with higher forecasts and if Tesla has a good average selling price, depending on how heavy inventory discounts came in that will probably shape this quarter the most. And of course, Tesla's progress on cost of goods sold. All right, let's see how many people we got. We got watching 5,400. All right. I don't really know how that compares to prior quarters, but it's always nice to see everyone here. Super chat from K. Appreciate that. All right, still hovering just around even after hours. There we go. It looks like it's out.
All right, Q2 2023 update. We're going to go through this as you know, as Tesla states and we'll see, we'll see what happens. I do just want to quickly glance at the EPS number. 91 cents. All right. So excellent. Looks like that is a beat on expectations from the bottom line perspective. I'm just going to really quickly flip back to the stock, see how that's reacting, still flat, weird. Okay. But here we go. Let's read through the letter.
Looks like operating margin a little bit lower than expected. So looks like maybe there's some things driving the earnings up that maybe we didn't have in our forecast. But let's read through the summary. So Q2 was a record quarter on many levels. Our best ever production and deliveries revenue approaching $25 billion in a single quarter. We're excited that we were able to achieve such results given the macroeconomic environment that we are currently in. Margin remained healthy at approximately 10% even with price reductions in Q1 and Q2. This reflects our ongoing cost reduction efforts, continued production ramp success in Berlin and Texas and the strong performance of our energy and services and others business, service and other business.
Our commitments being at the forefront of AI development entered a new chapter with the start of production of dojo training computers. We are hopeful that our immense neural net training needs will be satisfied using our in-house designed dojo hardware, the better the neural net training capacity, the greater the opportunity for our autopilot team to iterate on new solutions. In conclusion, we're focusing on cost reduction, new product development that will enable future growth, investments in R&D, better vehicle financing options, continuous product improvement and generation of free cash flow. The challenges of these uncertain times are not over, but we believe that we have the right ingredients for the long term success of the business through a variety of high potential projects.
So just again, the context that we talked about yesterday, focusing on the long term, obviously the operating margin remains healthy, maybe slightly below where it was forecast to come in, maybe slightly below where Tesla would have expected it earlier this year, but still a healthy number, still providing cash that Tesla can invest in the business.
Looks like cash did increase by $700 million for cash flow of a billion dollars, operating cash flow of $3.1 billion. So all that cash, you know, that's after Tesla is already investing in R&D in SG&A scaling. Ahead of future growth and still cash falling to the bottom line to support for the developments in the future.
The start of production of Dojo. So Tesla had talked about this with, you know, showing that graph of where they expect Dojo capacity to go over the next couple of years. So for them to confirm this is very exciting and hopefully we'll hear more on that.
Then I see over here a little cyber truck mentioned. So cyber truck factory tooling on track, producing, release candidate builds, Model Y became the best selling vehicle globally in Q1. Alright, so we'll come back to the numbers again a little bit later and we'll just kind of look at those all at once.
Again, looks like a beat on the bottom line, gap growth margin. I'm not sure. I think there's probably a bigger jump in operating expenses. I know I'm covering some of that. Sorry, try to do my best to be aware of that. But from just these initial numbers, I'm feeling like we're seeing definitely a lower energy number than what I expected by a few hundred million dollars, a little bit higher services and others. I think automotive revenue probably outpaced my forecast, which could be good news for ASPs and then operating expenses increasing, you know, 300 million dollars or so, which I believe would have exceeded my forecast. I think I was at 19.25. So a couple hundred million dollars extra in operating expenses, which if that's the case and if that's coming from R&D, then this is actually, I think, a really strong result. But you know, I'll try to refrain from comment too much. I just get excited about it before we can look at that holistically.
Alright, and then we talked about the free cash flow. So Tesla's sitting on $23 billion in cash. So let's just take a quick pause, see what the reaction is here. Stock market sleep, I guess. No reaction yet, which is probably a good result for a Tesla earnings report. I don't mind that.
Alright, so revenue grew 47% year to 24.9 billion dollars. So almost a 100 billion dollar annualized rate there. Growth and vehicle deliveries, helping drive that growth in other parts of the business reduced average selling price year over year excluding foreign exchange impact, negative foreign exchange impact of 0.6 billion dollars. But remember this is year over year. So I think, you know, when we compare sequentially, it's probably not a huge driver of fluctuation from a quarter over quarter perspective. We'll have to spend a little bit more time thinking about that though.
Profitability, operating income decreased slightly year over year to 2.4 billion resulting in a 9.6% operating margin. Year over year, operating income was primarily impacted by the following items. So reduced ASP due to mix in pricing, cost in production ramp of 4680 sales and other related charges. That's one that I focused us on yesterday. Release in operating expenses driven by Cybertruck, AI and other large projects. So that's probably what we talked about here where this is. Taking a big step forward, you can see these increases, you know, Tesla for the last four quarters in a row hovering around 1.7 1.8 billion dollars, now jumping up to 2.1. So it looks like some of that's Cybertruck expenses are starting to hit, you know, Tesla's income statement.
Negative foreign exchange impact as we mentioned. Set a bit by growth in vehicle deliveries despite margin headwind from under utilization of new factories for London, Texas. Lower cost per vehicle, which includes lower raw materials, cost and IRA credits and no surprise there. Again, the IRA credit that does lower cost of goods sold. Tesla gets battery credits there. So outside of the $7,500 credit, that's also still benefiting directly the income statement. And then gross profit growth and energy business as well as services and other other income below operating income line was positively impacted by foreign exchange movements on certain intercompany balances.
All right. Cash we talked about. So a few cash flow of a billion dollars, increasing cash by 0.7 billion. So maybe Tesla did some debt repayments there.
Global days of inventory up to 16. So no surprise on that. That's what we had calculated after the P&D report.
全球库存达到16天。所以这一点不足为奇。这是在产品销售与交付报告之后我们计算得出的结果。
Solar deployed 66. So unfortunate result there. You can see down 38% year over year. Just not a business that Tesla has really been able to grow for quite some time. So hopefully they'll give some commentary on solar, but it's such a small piece now at this point.
And then storage deployed. So a little bit of a client quarter over quarter. Remember this is lumpy. It's volatile because it depends on when projects are recognized. So Tesla could complete a bunch of projects in this quarter. They're still maybe producing and delivering more in the second quarter. But if those projects aren't flipped on, then it's going to not reflect. So my fingers would be crossed that we'd see a big jump in Q3 on that number. But obviously over the last two quarters, Tesla doing over 7 gigawatt hours combined, which is really exciting locations. So continued to increase about 25% year over year for locations and service. And then superchargers and supercharger connectors, both increasing at 33% year over year, which always fun to see.
All right. So this chart or this table, I was curious to see what they'd say for Cybertruck. So they do still say tooling. So Tesla not considering Cybertruck yet in production. I'll have to go back and update my title on the YouTube video for that. Not quite in official production. Still release candidate versions that Tesla's working on right now. But obviously they're getting quite close and I'd imagine there's probably some comments in here on that.
So in Q2, we produced a record number of vehicles thanks to ongoing ramps of our new factories, as well as strong performance in Shanghai and Fremont. We remain committed to smoothing deliveries throughout the quarter by reducing the percentage of vehicles delivered in the third month. So unwinding the wave, vehicles in transit, test drive and display vehicles account for a substantive majority of our total days of supply.
In the US, at Texas, in addition to the continued success of the Model Y ramp, we are also working on equipment installation for Cybertruck production, which remains on track for initial deliveries this year. Doesn't say this quarter, but this year. We'll see on the call on that.
We have made notable progress on yield improvement for our 4680 production lines. We continue building capacity for cathode production and lithium refining in the US.
For Shanghai, Shanghai has been successfully running near full capacity for several months. We do not expect a meaningful increase in weekly production run rate. Shanghai remains our main export hub. So Tesla basically says they're going to stay around that 240,000 or so per quarter from Shanghai, or at least not increase beyond that significantly at this point.
Berlin, our Gigafactory in Germany, produced standard range Model Y vehicles in Q2 for the first time, building off momentum from a success in Q1. Model Y was the best selling vehicle of any kind in Europe year to date based on the latest available data as of May. So market share, Tesla continuing to climb the ladder here in all regions after maybe a little bit of stalling out there in late in 2022. Now price cuts, Tesla starting to continue to increase. And some of that probably driven by COVID shutdowns too.
All right. Technology, AI and software, AI software and hardware. Four main technology pillars are needed to solve vehicle autonomy at scale, extremely large real world data set, neural net training, vehicle hardware and vehicle software. We're developing each of these pillars in house. This month we are taking a step towards faster and cheaper neural net training with the start of production of our dojo training computer. And then of course we get the nice cumulative FSD beta miles driven. So looks like Tesla has crossed over 300 million miles driven on FSD beta as of this quarter. This chart we already talked about, so we went pretty in depth on that. But go back and watch that dojo video if you want to see a little bit more on their progress there.
And then for other software, Tesla is saying for customers getting a Model 3 or Y for the first time, we launched get to know your Tesla experience where users can adjust settings in the vehicle to help customers discover ongoing improvements, now highlight features directly in the UI, encourage users to try features that may have missed and add ability to search control. So trying to make things a little bit easier for new people to the vehicles, which I think is great.
Battery and powertrain manufacturing, we are now testing Cybertruck vehicles around the world for final certification and validation. This might be the most unique vehicle product in decades, with that comes trialing and testing new technologies, i.e. Please be patient.
As far as we know, Cybertruck will be the first sub-19 foot truck fitting into a garage that has both four doors and a six plus foot bed. Both technologically and architecturally, this vehicle will break a lot of boundaries, very much in line with how we think about vehicle engineering and manufacturing. So lots to get excited about there for Cybertruck.
Alright, energy storage deployments increased 222% year over year to 3.7 gigawatt hours, another strong quarter, due to the ongoing ramp of the Lathrop factory, the ramp of this to 40 gigawatt hours. The ramp of this 40 gigawatt hour mega factory, the first of many, has been successful with still more room to reach full capacity, while energy storage deployment rate can be volatile due to project timing, production rate improved further sequentially in Q2. So exactly what I mentioned there earlier, volatile in terms of recognition, but production continuing to ramp.
Solar deployments remain roughly flat sequentially at 66 megawatt hours declining year over year, predominantly due to a high interest rate environment that is causing postponement of solar purchasing industry wide. So that does kind of make sense. Still would like to see a little bit better of a result there, but it's understandable.
Services and other business, the second quarter of 2023 has been the quarter of supercharging. A significant number of companies, including Ford, GM or Sadie's Nissan Polestar, Nissan today by the way, Polestar, Rivian, Volvo and Electrify America have announced the adoption of NACS, a charging standard developed by Tesla over a decade ago, further North American products. Opening our charging network in 2024 will enable both faster market conversion from combustion engine, combustion vehicles to EVs, as well as faster growth of our charging network through a larger addressable fleet.
So services and other gross margin looks like pretty similar to last quarter, but still at a very nice rate relative to historicals at least.
目前为止,服务和其他毛利率与上个季度相比看起来相当相似,但相对于历史来说仍然保持着非常不错的速度。
And then for Outlook, we're planning to grow production as quickly as possible in alignment with a 50% compound annual growth rate target. We began building, we began guiding to in early 2021, some years may grow faster, some slower. We expect to remain ahead in 2023 of the long term 50% kegger with around 1.8 million vehicles for the year. All right, so sort of reiterating, but reiterating toward the lower end of the official guidance of 1.8 million and then Elon's stretch guidance of maybe 2 million for the year.
Cash, ample cash. It's great. Furthermore, we will manage the business to maintain a strong balance sheet. So maybe a little bit of a nod to not doing a buyback at the moment.
Profit continue to execute on innovations to reduce the cost of manufacturing and operations over time. We expect our hardware-related profit to be accompanied by an acceleration of AI software and fleet based profits. I don't think anything new there.
And then Cybertruck remains on track to begin initial production later this year at K to factory Texas. In addition, we continue to make progress on our next generation platform. So no real update there on Cybertruck timeline, but let's soundtrack this year. All right, photos. I'm just going to take a quick drink of water here. That was a lot to read through because I know we've got some Cybertruck photos coming here.
There we go. Cybertruck testing. Cybertruck built to do real work. You can see the wiper there. The bottom of the wiper working a little bit better. Production line. Tesla covering it like we haven't seen photos of that leak yet. Production line again. Not sure why it's covered in that one and not this one. And the tweeted photo that we had previously seen, thank you for that super chat. Appreciate that from invest answers.
And then our key metrics quarterly. So I think we'll, I'll show these charts, but I do want to go and put those in our spreadsheet. But I mean, you can see, so I mean, this is, these are margin and year over year growth numbers. So most of the time we like to see Tesla charts like this, but are really nice accumulations of progress in the business. These rate charts, they're never going to look exactly like that. You can't continue to increase your revenue growth rate as you scale that significantly. That would be pretty impossible. Operating margin, obviously we've talked a lot about that. Hopefully that rebounds after Tesla, you know, makes progress on, on gigatexas, 4680s and Berlin.
All right, so the rest of the things there, financials, let's hop back into Excel. Let's just see what kind of what the stocks doing right now.
好的,那么剩下的那些东西,财务数据,我们回到Excel中来看一下。我们看看股票现在的情况怎样。
All right, up percent. So definitely, definitely good with that. Another super chat there. Thank you. I'm a little bit behind on the chat here, but Greg, awesome. That's nice to see. Greg and John, thank you for those. Appreciate that. I'm sure I've missed some others.
Alright, let's hop to Excel. One second, and we'll fill in some numbers, the potentially most exciting part of the episode. All right, so I'm just going to throw that in there and see if I remember that correctly. It's probably slightly off. So although you'll see Excel, what I'm doing is flipping back to the browser and just going through and finding the numbers that I need. And we'll update those.
Alright. Kudos to the analysts on the Energy forecast. Only off by 1%. I was off by 28%, a little bit higher. Energy generation, so that I know was 66. So we were both quite high on that.
All right, automotive sales. So this will be one of the most interesting buckets, and then we'll count ASP as well. I won't keep you guys waiting too long on that. So total automotive revenue was 21.268. So I was 1% low, analysts 1% low, which is good news for ASPs or average selling prices.
But let's see, I guess we need to figure out regulatory credits. Did that get removed? Nah, I thought that last time too. Let's just see. Okay, it's in here. Oh, 282. Awesome. That's great. The one time I start to get less conservative with this, of course, it drops. So I was 42% too high there. I expected around 400 million. That was about the average over the last 12 months. But bigger number, last quarter, probably not too surprising to see a little bit of a drop this quarter then to 282. But what that means, as we know, is that the underlying business, the non-regulatory credit portion of the business, which really is more important going forward, what that means is that that business was healthier leading to, or at least the average selling prices were healthier leading to higher revenues, which is very exciting. If we exclude this, I'm $112 million too high plus $272, $74 low on revenue. So between the two of those, that's almost a $400 million difference in automotive revenue, which obviously is going to be attributed to higher average selling prices. So the level of average selling price that Tesla is able to maintain quarter over quarter, a lot better than expected, a lot better than the drop that we saw from Q2.
All right. Energy sales, let's see where that ended up being 1509. So you could call that a disappointment. But again, it's just a matter of recognition, as Tesla said, that grew quarter or quarter. And then services and other is 2,150. So a huge jump, definitely offsetting the little bit there from energy below my forecast. We're $200 million, not entirely offsetting it, but $300 million high on energy, $200 million low on services. So overall, 1% to low on revenue.
All right. We'll save the ASP for a second. We'll come back to that. Let's get down to automotive profit. So that's going to be minus 16, 841. That minus 16, 841. Of which regulatory credits, that's going to be 282. Energy profit.
See how that came in. 1231, so a little bit of a decline, month over month. And of course, I mean quarter over quarter. Sorry, energy costs. I'm getting tripped up here, guys. Energy costs came down slightly quarter over quarter.
Let's see. Yeah, so 1231 were the costs of energy. Again, very exciting stuff here. All right. I think energy had an 18% margin. We're going to have to go back and confirm that. But if that's the case, that's awesome. And then services and other 1984 costs. which would be this. When is that? We did it wrong because that's the wrong box. All right. Make sure this gross profit number ties correctly. Seems to not. So I think I did something wrong here. Bear with me. Sometimes I have a little bit better of a setup than this. I'm definitely missing something here.
Alright. So automotive sales to a lot of revenues, 2168, 1509, 2150. OK, that's all right. So I don't have the leasing cogs in there. That's what it was. 17, 179, classic. It's how they get you every time, that leasing stuff.
All right. So this is now correct, which means that energy profit is also correct, which means that Tesla delivered an 18% energy gross margin. That's super exciting. Even with slightly lower revenue, huge, huge improvement in energy gross margins, quarter over quarter, up 720 basis points year over year. So that's awesome. Very exciting news on that front, because as we always talk about what we're trying to learn here is context for things going forward. And this means Tesla is able to actually sell energy at the margin that's higher than the total company gross margin, higher than automotive gross margin X credits. So now a more profitable business, at least for this specific quarter than the auto side, which is pretty insane. And as we talked about, hopefully a lot of this from an operational perspective is not like gravy. But the leverage that Tesla gets from the scale of the auto business is also supporting the energy business, which means that an 18% gross margin business by itself might not be that awesome. But when you can stack a couple of sizable 18% gross margin businesses on the same cost infrastructure, it really drives operating leverage, which is exciting to see. All right. So I'm pumped about that. That might be the biggest takeaway so far alongside the ASP stuff.
All right. So R&D, let's go back here. And yeah, if you guys can just spotlight me and throw a dollar super chat from getting something super wrong. But R&D, 943. So there we go. That's the big increase. So $130 million more than I expected, which is driving the operating gross margins down. SG&A. A couple of super chats, thank you with no issues pointed out. Yeah, so that's good. OK. SG&A. That's 1191. So a little bit higher there, which probably due to hiring for Cyberchuck and maybe some AI stuff, I would imagine. No other expenses. Just make sure. Yeah. So that's zero. So operating expenses, 2134, operating income, $23.99, which is what we got. All right. So 9.6%. All right. Yeah. So again, confirmation that this energy number is flowing through correctly and the sheet, which is great. Take off your cloth. No, thank you. All right. EBITDA. Let's see where that came in at. Just at EBITDA, 4653, head of expectations. Great. That income non-GAP. 2703. Interesting. Oh, that's GAP. It's like that doesn't make a lot of sense. 9-YAP income 3148, stock-based compensation was 445. So it's a little bit low on that, but not too bad. No CEO comp. GAP net income then should be 2703. And then we've got our EPS here of 78 and 0.91.
All right. Let's just quickly calculate the trailing 12-month GAP EPS. So that's going to be 353. So right now, let's say we're at 295-ish and 353. So we're at an 83 times price-starnings ratio right now. Not bad. And then free cash flow. So we'll just put that in here like that. We'll get the right number. It's close. Jesse, thank you. Good to see you on here.
All right. Let's do ASP. Looking forward to seeing that. Well, how do the auto gross margins come in here? All right. So a little bit higher than I expected to 20 basis points. So pretty close, but a little bit better, which probably driven by the better ASP, which means costs are going to be a little bit higher than I expected most likely. But offset.
So we're going to need leasing. The amount of leasing was 567. Believe that's the revenue. And then cost of leasing was 338. And then deliveries. Thank you, Dan. Deliveries, we had 21,883. All right. So I think these should be correct then. Just make sure all the information's in there. And again, please spot check if I'm getting something wrong here. Mess this up on the last one. But I think we're right there. So my cost forecast, correct. And then the ASP came in 2% higher than I expected about $800, which means that quarter over quarter, ASP is declined by only $1,200. And again, there could be some foreign exchange impact, quarter over quarter. It really depends.
Joel, thank you. Says looking good. Appreciate that, Joel. Joel's been since, I think Joel was my first gold supporter in Patreon, which is insane, like six years ago. Anyway, $1,200 decline in ASP quarter over quarter. So maybe some foreign exchange impact on that. But again, I think that was probably pretty consistent with the last quarter in terms of how that affects the numbers here. So hopefully that's good news where Tesla can kind of, they've done a lot of this inventory discounting. They've done a lot of additional sort of promotions with the referral program. They lower prices, particularly in the US, very early in the quarter. And despite all those things, only dropping ASPs $1,200, while cost drops almost, I think, the same amount. Cost actually dropped more. So that's exciting, which should mean, well, it didn't increase the margins, quarter over quarter, but at least more of a cost decline than the average selling price decline is definitely positive. It compresses because the basis changed, but still good. So thank you, David.
All right, I think we got through the numbers here. I think that's everything. So overall, I would say really good quarter. I'm pretty happy with this. Obviously, the operating margin coming in a little bit lower, but we can probably just quickly even calculate this. If I'd maybe if I just paste this here, we might be able to get that number. Yeah, so if my operating expense forecast had been correct, then Tesla's operating margin would have beat my expectations. And the only reason that this is higher is because of some additional cost for things like Cybertruck and things like that, which is, and then this would have also increased on the bottom line. So definitely ahead of my expectations, which is really exciting. And again, this is with less regulatory credit revenue than I expected. So that's another $118 million there that is temporarily in my forecast, boosting my forecast, that isn't boosting Tesla's actual results here, which means that X credits, things are even better than what I thought. Obviously, the operating expenses are real, so you have to consider that. And that's going to probably go to a new level going forward. But it's still very exciting, I think, to see these numbers. And then obviously beating on the bottom line, both analyst and my expectations pretty significantly, analysts were 12% below. I was 9% below. Full self-driving in Seattle, awesome. Thank you. Really appreciate that. You guys are awesome today. Awesome every day, but particularly today.
All right, whoa. Dragonfly engineering. I really appreciate that. I will put that towards Tesla shares as well. Thank you guys, but that's awesome.
好的,哇。蜻蜓工程。我真的很感激。我也会将这些用于购买特斯拉股票。谢谢大家,太棒了。
All right, so we'll talk a little bit more about things here. I'll read through the chat. We've got a few minutes here before we're going to start setting up for the earnings call, which, again, there's going to be a link for that live stream in the description below. So hopefully you guys all follow me over there. We've got 11,000 people watching right now. That might be a record. It seems to be popping today for some reason, which is great.
All right, so 11,000 people watching, we fumble around Excel, so fun. All right. I was trying to think if there's anything else in the numbers that I want to go through quickly. Again, let me know questions, comments. But yeah, I think these numbers are really solid. I want to let's flip back and see what the stocks doing. I was a little bit surprised that it wasn't doing better based on that's a pretty significant beat and a beat for the right reasons. That's why I said yesterday, just looking at people like to compare these bottom line numbers. Thank you, Douglas. These bottom line numbers to, oh, how did analysts do you want their forecast? How did retail people do on their forecast? It's really not a great gauge because I could have forecast $700 million of regulatory credits and ended up in the same spot, but it would have been a horrible forecast because everything else would have been way off.
So for this to be a beat and a beat for really good reasons, number one, less regulatory credits recognized, which just boosts margin. And obviously Tesla gets that money. It's all great, but it just is going to be a smaller percent of the business going forward. So the more of Tesla's results, the more of their earnings that are driven by non-regulatory type of items, the better. Obviously, there's still some IRA impact on the costs and things like that that are helping Tesla's numbers right now, too. And the consumer credit, that's huge for Tesla as well. But we kind of know those things going in. We don't know regulatory credits. So for it to be lower means that these fundamentally are stronger results. So that's very exciting.
The other thing that's really exciting is the synergy margin, 18.4%. That's a huge step. This is pro. I would be shocked if this is not. I don't know how many quarters of data I have here. I don't think I have a ton in this one. But I've got more in my actual full model. But yeah, I would be shocked if this is not an all-time high energy gross margin for Tesla. So we'll see going forward. If that can be repeated on a previous earnings call, Elon said that they kind of hoped to get energy gross margin into the 20%, 25ish percent range by the end of this year. He said that was not a promise, but more of an aspiration, which this looks like Tesla very much could be on track for that type of a result.
And then I would also probably point out that there's probably some IRA impact with these energy margins too, as Tesla's still getting those battery credits. Maybe a portion of those probably split with Panasonic a bit too. But Tesla's probably still benefiting in some way from those battery production credits on the energy side of business as well. So that's going to be helping that margin out, but still very exciting to see.
And then services and others as that, services and other as that increases, there as that gross margin increases, it's less of a drag on the overall business. Like last year, all this revenue coming in at 0%, that's going to pull, although the total gross margin was obviously very strong, that has a negative effect. And the negative effect diminishes over time. And we saw a pretty big jump in this quarter over quarter, which I don't think a lot of that's driven by supercharger revenue yet. But hopefully over time, this can become a nice healthy business for Tesla. Maybe they're probably not going to grow this to 20% gross margin business. But if this can be 10%, 15%, and grow with the rate that it has, that's a really strong, healthy business line for Tesla as well.
OK, let's see. Yeah, so someone mentioned that S and X helped. Carlo, awesome. Thank you. Appreciate that. Long time listener as well.
好的,让我看看。嗯,有人提到S和X有所帮助。Carlo,太棒了。谢谢你。非常感谢。我也是长期听众。
OK. So now I lost my train of thought on that. The, what was I saying? Oh, S and X, yeah. So this helped. S and X obviously helped this average selling price. But that's a part of my forecast, right? Like I already knew the delivery numbers. You can make a rough guess at the average selling price for those Model S and X. Maybe I was a little bit low on that. But should have pretty much fully captured the impact of the S and the X mix, which that increased 88% quarter over quarter of a quarter of a quarter of a quarter of a quarter of a quarter correctly. So for S and X, it's already factored in, which means that three and Y were better than I thought, which is nice to see.
Let's see. Operating margin, anything to say about that? So I think I commented on that a couple times. Let me get my view back here correctly how it was before. Yeah, so operating margin, I did discuss this earlier, but just again to touch on it quickly, I don't mind it being lower than my forecast because it being lower was driven by two things. One, regulatory credits coming in lower than I expected. Two, the increase in R&D and SG&A, which as Tesla noted in the shareholder letter, were primarily driven by legitimate growth funding activities with Cybertruck, with AI, with Dojo. So for that to be an increase is not something that I mind at all.
I would take those increases every quarter, which means if you kind of strip those things out, that's on a sort of sustained basis where Tesla's business, where I thought Tesla's business would be, they would have even beat this more significantly. So Tesla bears or whatever would say I'm hand waving away at legitimate expenses and that's fine. I don't really care. It's my opinion that these are good expenses and for those to drive down the operating margin is not something that I mind at all. Now would I prefer a 17% operating margin like we had portions of time last year? I sure would, that would be awesome.
But again, there's interest rate impacts right now. I do think a lot of that's probably offset by the tax credit stuff, but as we talked about, Tesla's scaling a lot and that's gonna continue, but really they're trying to get to a new level for the business and that's gonna take time and it's gonna cost money and, you know, we're, again, Tesla right now, the Model 3 and the Model Y, their purpose is to get Tesla to the next generation vehicle and to full self-driving. Like that is the purpose of these vehicles and it's silly to say or it sounds silly to say because literally you're talking about the best selling car in the world, but that's how Tesla's thinking about it, right? These are the bridge to the next generation. So for them to be able to provide the funding for that and still grow the cash of the business, that's what we wanna see from Tesla and that's what we are seeing and we, with these numbers, seem to continue to be on track for that to be the case. And all the while, Tesla growing scale, growing market share, which is awesome.
So margin's all return, it's gonna take time, you know? Tesla's path here is not one of margin growth, but eventually it'll come and we've seen that before and it'll be back someday. All right, man, I really appreciate these super chats guys. That's really exciting.
All right, so Dan, good question here. Impact of that, 735, well, he put billion here about million dollar settlement, so that's the board that we had talked about a day or two ago, two days ago, I think. And I don't really know how that settlement is impacting things. I do wanna, that's a good point. That is a good point though, because let's hop back to the results here and let's just take a look at the share count. To see if maybe there's a decrease in the outstanding shares somewhere, which maybe could give us a hint at what's going on with that sort of a settlement. I doubt that's resolved yet, but my thinking would be that that would maybe reduce the outstanding share count.
All right, so shares used in EPS calculation diluted. They did increase 10 million, or whatever that number ends up being quarter over quarter. So we're not seeing some huge deduction in an outstanding share count. So my guess is that that's not really impacting these numbers. I doubt Tesla would talk about that on the call. Maybe we can get some information on how that's gonna work a little bit later on. But yeah, it's a really good question. I'd be surprised if that's impacting these numbers though.
Before we wrap it up, I will just, I don't do this often, but I'll just, I guess, solicit for a quick like. Appreciate those. Jack, thank you, appreciate that. Sustainable energy for tomorrow. Awesome, appreciate that. William, thank you.
Tesla, what is your expectation for the earnings call? Yeah, it's a good question. Hopefully they talk about Cybertruck. I'm sure they'll talk about AI, about Dojo. We'll talk about ASPs and costs. Talk about the say questions, which, you know, not my favorite group of questions this time around. Hold my tongue on that one, but. I think it should be a good call. Like, I really think these results are pretty, pretty excellent. And I guess maybe expectations were high coming into the earnings report here, but yeah, I'm not sure, not really sure what else I'd be asking for. Maybe instead of saying Cybertruck starting this year, if they had said this quarter, that would have been exciting. If, you know, the average selling price and cost, difference between those two numbers was bigger, better profit, that would have been more exciting. But again, these are, you know, across the board, I think pretty in line with my expectations, or above, I think, almost in all cases, which, you know, that's kind of as good as you can hope for, I guess the Cybertruck maybe not withstanding on that comment. But it looks like that's pretty much on track, so all good stuff.
Just make sure, I do apologize if I missed any super chats from you all. Carlton, thank you. Shane, thank you, appreciate that. Feeling the love today. It's nice. That's very nice. We gotta do some meetups or something. Hopefully there's a Cybertruck event this quarter. Maybe we'll get some more information on that on the call. But yeah, it's always super fun. So if anyone can make those, you know, it is highly recommended, even if you can't make it to the actual event, invitation-wise, I would still recommend going. There's always a ton of fun stuff going on and tassel people out and about and stuff like that. I know there's a tassel takeover event pretty soon, so here I'm asking for a meetup. That's probably a great one to go to. I'm not gonna know that one unfortunately, schedule-wise, but I think that's on the 29th.
Cybertruck is still entwilling how much longer do you think it would take for reservations to be allowed to finalize orders before delivery? How much longer do you think it would take for reservations to be allowed to finalize orders before delivery? I'm not sure exactly what the question is here, but I think it will probably be, you know. I think the essence of the question is like, when the design studio might open fully for the Cybertruck? I would guess that that would happen post any delivery event. Tesla will deliver those to insiders, you know, early investors, employees, things like that. And I think there's, you know, usually when Tesla does that, that's probably when the design studio would come live, and maybe even after that point. So I'd still expect it to probably be, you know, be a couple of months out from now. Thomas, thank you. Heisenberg, thank you.
All right, we're gonna wrap it up, but again, down in the description, that is where the earnings call will be. We'll, you know, hopefully follow you guys over there, and I guess you follow me over there, either way. And we'll continue the conversation after the earnings call. All right, we'll see you soon, thank you.