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Hey boys and girls, we're here at Light Ship. This is the latest and greatest in the world of RVing and I'm here with Ben Parker, no relationship to Spider-Man's uncle. But at the end of the day, Ben's going to give us a little tour and a little talk on this new, very exciting way of putting out an RV. I've seen pictures and little videos and whatnot. Actually, I don't think they're videos. I think they were like CAD illustrations or something. They're real. They're real. They look really good. Anyhow, we're going to find out a lot more about this.
So first up, Ben, why don't you give us a little bit of background on you and then we'll have a look at your vehicle. Cool. Let's do it. Hey Sandy, hey, my room family. I'm Ben Parker. Like you said, no relation to the great man's uncle. Although with great power, it comes great responsibility, as we know. We are at Light Ship. We are the first American electric RV manufacturer and this is our first product. We call it the L1. It's the perfect travel trailer for the age of electrification. It's a ground up design. So we are from scratch vehicle manufacturer and designing for all the new opportunities of electrification and new constraints like battery energy density.
Yeah. Yeah, I can take you through the whole vehicle if you'd like. Yeah, that'd be great. All right. Okay, so I'm assuming this is a door and this must be the entrance. That is a door. Do you want to do inside first and then outside? Why not? Inside out is a good idea. Inside out. So we engineered and designed it from the outside in. Well, that's usually the way the styling guys do it. Yeah.
The outside in is usually the best way to get the look and the arrow. But once you get inside, now you've got all the real work. Because now I've got to figure out how to fit this. And one of the things we should say is this is in the up position for us walking through. However, this goes down, right? Yeah, I think it's fabulous from an arrow standpoint. Good. We agree. Yeah, the only way to reduce the frontal area is to have it transform like that. So this is, we call this the camping mode. It's about 10 feet tall, total vehicle height. And you get a really tall ceiling on the inside. So it's kind of, it's close to a residential experience as opposed to a lot of campers. You're really pent-in. Yeah, yeah.
But also, if you want to come over here, the vehicle will go into a road mode as well. We call it. So in the road mode, the entire top of the vehicle, which we call the canopy, the bottom is the tub. The canopy collapses down on the tub. And so the total height of the vehicle when in road mode is about the same height as the truck that's telling it. And that means it's great from an aerodynamics standpoint. It's a better CD and lower frontal area.
This was kind of the starting point for the whole effort of making this product was aerodynamics engineering because we knew our goal was to get to a zero range loss experience, which especially for an EV truck is really important because, as you guys know, you've done some testing. An EV truck pulling a traditional travel trailer loses about two thirds of its range. And so a 300 mile truck becomes a 100 mile truck, maybe at that rate, which you really can't do a true road trip with.
And so the way that we get back that 200 miles lost is first by designing for efficiency, great passive efficiency. We were able to get to a form that is about three times as aerodynamic as the next best travel trailer. And it's really that telescopeing action plus the shape of the vehicle that got us there.
So now if you're three times more aerodynamic, now you go from 100 miles of range to 200 miles of range. And then we still wanted to make up that extra 100 miles to get back to zero range loss and keep your 300 mile truck a 300 mile truck. And the way that we did that, once we'd done the passive efficiency was to put an EV battery and a motor on board, which we can actually, we can peek at underneath.
The battery is a high voltage, a lot of motor batteries about the same size as would go into a model three or any passenger car. About 70 kilowatt hours. Yeah, 80. About 80. 80, 80 usable. You want to have a little bit of extra so that when you get to the campground, you're able to run all your appliances inside the camper. And so now with the combination of that EV battery plus a drive unit, which we put on board, the drive unit can propel the rear wheels of the trailer. And that means that the trailer is helping itself, for it's pushing itself. And so the truck feels almost nothing as it's going down the road as you're cruising on the highway. And when it feels nothing, it also loses no range. That's kind of the comprehensive approach that we took to get to what we think is a great trailer for.
So one thing I'd like to do, this looks like a Rivian. And so when you look at a flow model, if I put this into a wind tunnel, you'd see the wind coming over the top. And it goes up and then it swoops down and it's going to go out here with a conventional RV. This goes down and now I've got this big ball of turbulence.
Huge turbulence. And it's the exact opposite to drafting. You get a gigantic amount of drag. So having this swoop down and I can see in my mind's eye, anyway, I can see the turbulence that you're going to get is out here and you don't care about that. It doesn't suck you backwards.
You're exactly right. You're going to have to be the key to the two main objectives in the arrow work was we know we have this turbulent onset flow coming off of the rear of the truck. And so we need to reattach the flow as efficiently as possible. And we did a lot of tuning on the tongue box shape here to fill the void between the trailer and the truck. And then also this angle here, in fact all the angles on the nose of the vehicle. All of them are optimized to grab the air and reattach it to the body. And then the body is as all smooth contours all the way down.
So it keeps the flow attached. It doesn't allow the boundary layer to grow too thick. So there's almost no separation down the whole 27 foot length. And then at the rear you can see boat tail it, see taper, taper the tail in and in doing so minimize the wake. And then you want a clean cut at the rear so they are separates cleanly. And the end result here is a 27 foot, 8 1 1 2 feet wide vehicle that is as drag efficient as a model 3 which we're pretty proud of.
But one thing I do like as well is that when you look at this and again, mind's eye kind of stuff, this looks like a lifting body on an airplane. So you may also get something where it's not going to lift it off the ground, but it's not going to let it drag down either. Because whatever I've got under here is going to go under there. So that is my straight line. This is my curve line to give a little bit of lift.
I think you guys got a real giant winner here. I like everything about it. Let's go and have a look inside. So then of course once you get to the campground there's this kind of presentational moment when you lift the whole trailer.
Oh yeah, here we are. Exactly. This is just off of Skyline and Skyline Drive in the Bay Area. It's looking out to the Pacific Ocean. So we'll see. So yeah, any sort of. So you get to the campsite. You lift the vehicle up, put it into its camping mode.
You can see right now that at least the design in this is a pre-production prototype that we're looking at, but it is functional. You can see we've got a ball screw in there. Ball screw mechanism on the corners. This is how the entire canopy is lifted at the corners. It's synchronized ball screws. And yeah, so now you can go in and enjoy your camper at the campsite.
Cool. Step right up. And you can play back rack. Yes. Or just back in there. Whatever you want. Or back in. Sorry. Yeah. Back rack. Wow. This is. That's, yeah. There's to give it the sandy test. Yeah. I can just reach the ceiling. But it's almost a residential ceiling.
This is actually one of the benefits that you get from having it have those two modes is that you can be very slipstreamed when you are driving. But then you have this huge, spacious experience once you get inside. Another thing that I think is going to become our hallmark is the number of transparent surfaces. Yeah. It's going to save so many windows. It's going to be spectacular for the windows.
Yeah. Of course, we're in a parking lot with a bunch of cool EVs right now. But you can imagine as you get to a beautiful campsite, any beautiful natural area, you take in the vistas here. That kind of that one of the core ideas was how do we bring the outside in so that you can be comfortable and enjoying yourself inside of the trailer.
I love it. But still be visually connected to the outdoors. Yeah. Yeah. We want to go. We can go front to back if you'd like. So. Yeah. Generally, I think what you'll find, and I hope you guys are already finding this in the vehicle, is that the layout is really good for circulation.
So we've had at one point when our company was 25 people, we had all 25 people in here. I wouldn't recommend that. That's tight. That's tight. But it can be done. But for a few people like this, imagine a small family and maybe a guest or two, it's really easy to move throughout the space.
The key thing is that a lot of the RVing that I, and many of us had lightship have done you, many layouts, either a bottlenecks in the layout. So people are sort of crawling over each other. Like you can't get to the bathroom because someone is in the kitchen.
Yeah. Since I've had that happen all the time. And so we, we really focused on relieving those bottlenecks and making movement easy to do within the vehicle. So I'm looking, I can see maybe how this could turn on to a bed. How many people can you sleep in here? Four to six, depending on the configuration.
Four to six? Yeah. It's a, this would be four. So you have a, you know, this is kind of your main bed. Your queen bed. And there's a, you know, it's like a day bed. Oh, I see. Pop sound like that to increase the foot. And then there's also a, so this is a dinette by day. But if you've got some kids, for instance, you could stash those two kids on the, the dinette bed as well. So this table should. Should dogs go down? See if it's turned on. I think it might not be on us. Looks like it drops down, eh? Yeah, exactly. It's, you imagine it's a little bit like standing desk or the whole, the whole telescope down. And then you put the mats on top of there. Yep. Yeah, sleeping mat down so that becomes your, your second sleeping surface.
Hmm. So main bed space, dinette or dining space or second bed space. And back up. And then just, just broad strokes moving back through the vehicle, you have a storage area, the storage console along the, the left side of the, yeah, you got, that's real well underneath, but there's a whole, whole bunch of, for, for these, for these compartments. So that, I think people will put odds and ends and preclothing in particular. You might, you come with a duffel and you throw your, throw your duffel in here. And so we got, got a bunch, bunch of those, same, same deal here. You can, I don't know if you want, you can fill a dinette if you want.
What's that? You can just hop in and feel, feel how the space feels. We think it's pretty comfy. One thing, there are a lot of little details in here, but we have a really, really good design team. The thing of one, one person Jessica who's our color material and finished designer, she, she's a background in automotive industrial design, she's a true, for a while, but she also did plain design and so you can, you can feel.
This looks more aircraft than it does automotive. Yeah, I like the, usually if you get a transition from something like, you know, this, pinky sort of stuff, and moving it down. Yeah, the color of the tree dinette fabric. The dinette fabric are a little bit more expensive, however, they just, they kick the daylights out of the style. I mean, I really like the way this came down and you can see it is blending into, mostly pink with some turquoise or coral, whatever. And then, and into the blue. And the blue is better because having this here would be an issue. And then, blend into the four color as well, you know, because the floor is this sort of green like green.
Yeah, I mean, shit. Well, everything on the color wheel is kind of close to each other. So I'm pretty, I'm pretty excited. I like it when things don't clash. I'm not a, I, I'm not a stylist by any stretch of the imagination, but I, I'm kind of into colors and blending and things like that. So this, this has got enough different colors to keep it interesting and they're close enough on the color wheel so that they don't clash with each other.
Yep, I'm pretty happy about that. Good. I love it too. And we're, we're working on a couple of different color ways too, so that people have, you know, a bit of choice in here. One thing, little details to it. I think you see this from, from the, the aircraft background is we're, a lot of, I think a lot of our views that I've been in, you have really thick foam cushions, but, but it's not necessarily that supportive. But it's not, it's actually, they're not comfortable. They both push cushions or something like that. Yeah. Sometimes they get so thick. You get a dead leg. Exactly. Yeah.
This, this seems to be fairly comfortable. Yeah. And it's comfortable enough. It's just like memory foam. It's thin, but supportive. Yeah, it's, well, it's, it's a laminate. It's a thin layer of memory foam on top and then a medium density foam and a high density foam as the, as the bottom of the backer. Cool. You feel that in the bed too. Yeah. I've, I've slept on that bed. Well, actually, it feels, you're more expensive bed since what they're using. Yeah. Yeah, that's right.
So let's have a peek over here at the end of the, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Let's see, yeah, so, what am I looking at here? This may be a charging pad, wireless charging pads, you know, you're dropping it, I see. Oh, I see. On there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're, we're trying not to go crazy with the, with the in your face technology because yeah. Yeah, it kind of detracts from the campaign experience we think the, the main idea is how do we tone this down, make it feel like a really warm kind of calm, relaxing space and then use technology to, to allow you to concentrate more on the campaign experience. It's sort of quiet technology is, is the idea.
Yeah. Instead of exposed technology, yes, technology was very, very popular there for a long time. Now it's kind of like moved in this direction here. So it's quite a little. It's a little age well either if all the technologies in your face all the time because it changes so much. Yeah. So quickly it'll, it, you got to, you got to put it in the background so it doesn't feel dated immediately. Yeah. Well, that's quick. Kind of like what happens now is people are looking at, at some of the techniques and technology that knows days. Yeah.
As being either old fashioned or, hey, how come they didn't, you know, make it more ergonomic or how come they didn't make it graceful? So and then you've got to sink so I assume that when the ceiling is down it's not touching this. Not quite. It's a, but an inch to spare. It was, it was a, it's tight. So does this come off then? Yeah. Pull it up and put it in the sink. Yeah. It's a typical, typical kitchen, yeah, kitchen faucet. Yeah. Looks like, but, but nice. But a little lady. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
And then you got a cooler sink. Oh no, I don't. What is that? You know, it's pretty funny. I mean, Chris, Chris is the name and it's pretty funny because my, my co-founders name is Toby Kraus. He, he, he, he led finance at Tesla for a few years. Yeah. And this was a complete coincidence that we found a Christ sink, but it, it, it is an homage in a way. Yeah. Well, at the end of the day, this is a very nice sink. Sainless steel. Yep. Nicely welded up. Yeah.
Full, full kitchenette is the idea. You know, you have, you have a, a fridge here, double, double drawer fridge. Oh man, they stocked this thing full. I got to grab one of those after. Yeah, a good idea. Yeah. You want one too? No. Grab one again. So full, full double drawer fridge. A freezer as well. Oh wow. All right. See a little, little freezer space there. There's some under sink storage, you know, goes around a p-trap. Um, microwave, of course. You see we've been going with all the door style appliances.
Yeah. This is all, by the way, every, all the power you see in here is running off of the high voltage battery right now through, through, through an inverter. Um, so it's, it's truly kind of clean, seamless, quiet power. That's, that's what you get as opposed to generators and propane tanks and everything that people are used to with RVs today. We think it's, it's, it's a, you know, it's almost a vacation home like experience. It's meant to be just ease of use, one button, turn your lights upon and then never think about power again. And all the while the whole roof top of the vehicle is covered in solar. And so whenever you're in the sun, you are generating energy to keep, you know, keep up with your, your, your camping use.
Um, so what's underneath the microwave? Oh, yeah. This is the, uh, the Kudagra. We hate doing dishes when we're out camping. So, of course, we're wondering, yeah, we put a, we put a dishwasher in there. Um, this, the story behind this is cool though because, you know, unlike most campers, we have the power to run this. Yeah. And once you have that power, it turns out that a dishwasher makes a lot of sense from a water use. Right. Water uses, uh, like one tenth. Yeah. Uh, versus washing. Hand washing. Hand washing at all. It all goes down the drain with this. It's recycling the water and it's much more economical. And what really what that means is you can go camping longer off grid because you're, you're preserving the water and your freshness.
Who's, who's, who's dishwasher is that? This is a Fisher in Pagol unit. My favorite. You like having paid at night? Our refrigerator is fish or pickle and we're in the process of redoing the stuff in our house and everything's going to be Fisher Pagol. Good for you. We have one of these in our office too and it's, um, that was part of the inspiration. It's just a great unit. Yeah, it is quiet again, economical. Yeah. So that had to go in. Yeah. Um, big shout out to New Zealand. That's where Fisher Pagol is made. Oh, they put, okay.
There's no, I'm saying. So this is some of your, yeah, the magnets are a little strong on this. We got to tune the magnets. Um, this would be, you know, all of your kind of kitchen storage and pantry space and we've got a couple of drawers of that. So pots and pans. There's another, another deep drawer beneath there. Um, that's all your kitchen stuff. Um, and then of course, just a bunch of storage up top and then this will be, this will be the trash as well. We're still installing the trash, trash bin there.
Um, come into the bathroom. We, we kind of asked ourselves at the outset of, of designing this. What is luxury? And you think in short, it is a spa like bathroom experience and a high ceiling. And so we put both in. Uh, if I were to take a shower, Sandy, I would say bye-bye. Oh, very good. Well, I could look at you through the window. That's true. I guess I got to go in a privacy because of the glass. Okay. Well, cover that off. Yeah. Wow. Sandy, see you in the shower.
The end of the day, if you're out, no, woods, no one's going to see you anyway. Maybe a bear or something. This is a great, um, recycled plastic material. This is actually ocean recapture. Um, if, if you were just using this as a bathroom, of course, you could, you could pull up, add some counter space for yourself. And then when it's time to shower, you drop that down. Range shower, range shower overheads. Yeah. You use the full height, um, and then some, some storage space here. This, too, you, you can get, it feels like a very large plain bathroom, um, in the sense that the ergonomics are really thought of down to the millimeter.
Um, the whole, the whole rear is a, uh, a mirror, right? Which makes it feel even bigger. Um, you know, I'll see if we can show you towards the end. Uh, you can actually lift this whole mirror out like a lift gate. Basically, or tailgate, I should say. Really? Yeah. So the whole thing comes up. We'll do it. I'll do it at the end. Sure. It takes a little, takes a little finagling. Great. It comes with prototype. Yeah. Last thing you could see too. For prototype, though, this is pretty magnificent. Yeah, we, we didn't want to make a pusher. We didn't want to make it just a show car that has no, no functionality built in because we, it's a true alpha vehicle. It's, it's not yet durable. Um, but it has all the functional elements to, that, you know, make, make the thing work. Yeah, you pull that in person. Exactly.
So that's, uh, that's mostly interior. We love it. Um, yeah, I can point a few more things out about the exterior. So how does this, though? Oh, it comes up. Do you want to come out here? I can show you. It's kind of a kind of, uh, we still need to put some seals in here, but it's traditional RV stair style. So it's, there's a way like that. And, you know, that closes up. And this, this is a, this, this goes away with a, a, a, a grand handle that you can see up there.
Oh, yeah. That's kind of a hat, a hat store style. We didn't, we didn't do the full, uh, Falcon Wing door. It was it, you know, the two, the two joints, one, one, one hatch, marine style, felt like enough to us. Um, you can see the wheel covers here. This is, this is largely for arrow again. Yeah. This, we haven't installed it yet, but this will be for a camp kitchen. So there's going to be a, a, a slide away camp kitchen, like a little bit like what the Rivian has. Yeah. It's, they're really popular in RVs.
So this will be something that'll pivot out and you and I will be able to, to, to cook over the camp kitchen like that. Yeah, that is good. Use it for a bar. Yeah. Most, uh, most of the time, uh, uh, if I'm stopped like this, I'll just, you know, hey, gather up some wood and you'd have a barbecue or something. But, uh, my friend and I have a, uh, we have a dream to, because that, so a lot of this story started as me having a pet project to electrify all the food trucks in the bay area. I want to, I want to, at some point get, once we're, you know, fully in volume production and I can take a breath.
My girlfriend and I want to do a long road trip of America and treat one of these like a food truck. We'll pop the window open and she'll be serving cocktail. I'll, I'll do a little, a little pop up. That's a good idea. Yeah. It's going to be fun. Yeah. I think, I think the other thing that you note that is, uh, it's really unique to what we're doing is most RVs are not very styled. Um, they're kind of, they're kind of just beige bricks, you know, they get on the road. And because our approach started with aero and because we are a team of automotive people, we wanted to take an automotive design approach to.
So our, actually, our, our, our designer, his name is Rob Williams. He was the chief creative officer at Rivian for a while. So, but he worked on both the brand and, and the product design as they were leading up to the LA auto show launch. Cool. You know, that, that same, that same expertise to, to this, to this effort. And so you just see a lot of touches like, um, you know, the, the, the, the flushing integrated windows, the same with the automotive style tail lamps. Everything is, um, surfaced in style to an automotive pedigree. And it makes this look like nothing else on the road. It is, it is a very unique shape and finish.
So what are we, what are you going to be making inside of? I see something here that tells me your prototype is me and a, yeah. Uh, me and a, uh, uh, what do you call it? Fiberglass. Composite. Yeah, exactly. It's, it's, it's, this one is actually mostly carbon fiber.
Uh, do you want to hear the story behind this? Yeah. This was, as we were first tuning the lift mechanism, uh, we allowed it to get cock-eyed at one point. I, I take, I take the blame for that. It was mostly my fault. And so we, we overstressed it at a, at a point. Well, we'll fix it though. Yeah. Let me tell you where. Let's learn. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Little wear points too. It's definitely, uh, we're getting both, you know, we're showing this off as a, as a, as a thing that so people can be familiar with the product, but this is a true development tool as well. Yeah. So we're, we're getting a lot of development learnings from it, which we kind of have to, because, you know, the RV industry is a big industry. It's about a $30 billion industry in the US, but it's not global automotive scale. And so we're not going to go and raise, you know, billions of dollars for this. And yet we want to do, um, and we are doing automotive style development with that level of rigor. And what that means is that we need to collapse some of the efforts so that a single asset, we get both development and marketing, uh, purposes from, yeah. And that's the right way to do it. Thanks for that. Some people, um, don't see it that way, but there's no question about it.
This is, this is quite good. We're, we're really proud of it. Are you still here? You're, you're take away here. Are you still taking, um, like, I'm sure you're already taking pre-orders. Yeah. We are $500 for Fundable. Yeah. Yeah. And then secondly, are you still looking for investors? Uh, you got a lot of financial people watch what we do. Yeah, I think we're open to it. We, um, you know, it's, it's obviously the other production is a capital intensive business. Yeah, I do.
And, um, we, we still have some money to raise to get into full volume production. And, uh, yeah, if there's, if there are any, any institutional investors who are really in the end of what we're doing, we, we welcome a conversation. You can just email me. Any idea? What kind of, uh, what kind of funding you would need? Yeah, it's, it's not, so this is not, um, it's not automotive scale. So we're not going to, you know, we're not going to build a billion dollar plan. It'll be, it'll be tens of millions of dollars, at least for, for the first production facility. Um, it's probably, this is, um, the best we estimated is a couple hundred million dollars to get. Yeah, there's really, yeah, we'll say tens of millions. I was going to say something like, you're out of your mind.
No, no, no, I'm glad you said I, full capitalization is a couple hundred, a couple hundred million, it'd be just about right. Yeah, you get, uh, you can get some pretty big tools. Yep. That could make the, um, make those bits, and this thing could really hum. Yeah, I mean, of course, this goal for, goal for the business is ultimately impact and scale. That's, that's our, our, we, you know, we want to be remembered as one of, if not the company that helped take RVing electric quickly and, you know, made, made the past time better for it. And, um, I, I think we, uh, we know that this is, this is, this is a starting point and this, this first product is our, our flagship.
Um, we, we already designed it to, to, you know, to be operationally cast flow positive. So we're going to, this is going to be a positive growth, margin business because we think that's the right way to do business. Yeah. But this is also only the beginning. We're going to, we're going to do successive products after this, the technology and the manufacturing system, we get more mature, we'll build, we'll build more volume into it.
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Yeah. Anyway, you're going to show us underneath. Oh, sure. Let's see if we can get a peek under here. It's kind of tight, but. You feel them limber? Yeah, let's just. Eric, do you want to crawl under? Yeah, go first. Yeah, right. You get down there, Sandy. Oh, yeah, no, you're. Can you see a bit of a treasure's under here? Oh, yeah, exactly. That's where we stored all this time.
So, yeah, look back. I don't know, Eric, do you want to. Okay, don't grab first. All right, good, good. Yeah, so look down the back. Do you see the drive unit there? Look, peer backwards. Look at the aluminum casing. Yeah. So full custom air suspension, at least on this prototype. See, you know, as you can do ride height adjustment. Again, you can see the drive unit and the rear. That's what preels the rear wheels. You can see the battery packs here. Yeah.
Two 40 kilowatt hour battery packs, the double up to 80 for full capacity. It's a true working prototype. Uh, this stability system you got here. What is this? Arc. Is this like any roll control here? Yeah, that's a damper. Yeah. So that we didn't want to do a typical vertical strut, because that would intrude up into the cabin. Right. So instead, you can see the rock roll and then it goes towards all. Okay, yeah, right. No problem there.
Yeah. Close enough to the wall. Yeah, that's what we're doing. Yeah, that's what we're doing. Right, no problem there. Close enough to the wheels, you're not going to have a, you know, grounding out issue. Yeah. Yeah. Or bottoming out. Bottoming out. The only thing I see that could be a problem would be the subframe. Yeah, subframe for the motor or what have you. But the end of the day, uh, this is pretty, pretty cool. Thanks.
What type of battery this looks like? It's going to be 20, 70s here. Yeah. Yeah, this 20, 70s LP pack. Yeah. Who's who's giving you the batteries? Uh-huh. I don't know if I can divulge their name. Oh, all right. That's right. Fine. Don't screw up your battery contract. Yeah. That's the important one. Yeah, it's the big one. Yeah.
Yeah. But typical, you know, automotive grade 350 volt, uh, 350 volt nominal system. Yeah. You know, a lot of what allows us to build this company now is, um, the fact that the automotive supply chain has invested billions of dollars for really tens and hundreds of billions of dollars. Over time to electrify. Um, what it means is there's a, there's a supply base of a really high quality costed down durable EV components that we can draw on to build a vehicle like this.
Well, now, um, those, uh, those same guys are much more interested in, um, startups, startups. Yeah, yeah. Of course. Yeah, because they're seeing that the, uh, the big, the big boys, the OEMs, are starting to go more vertical integration. Yep. Yep. Yeah. I mean, we think we think it's the right way to build a great product. Um, and of course, we're, you know, many of us are from Tesla, yeah, Toby, I was a battery engineer there for about five years. And, um, learn, learn a few things about, uh, what, what we think is a good way to build a, build a great product.
Well, it looks great. I'll tell you that for sure. I really like the, uh, the look at this. Most of the most everything I've seen works. I mean, it's, uh, this is going to be a, I think you're going to have a winner. I know it. I, I'm very good guesser. Yeah.
So anyway, um, I'm going to, we have to shut it down because Eric's going like this. And that usually means shut up. So anyway, thanks for watching. Congratulations. Thanks, Sandy. Yeah. Thanks. And say how do your uncle for me? Okay. Anyways, we'll see ya. Yeah.