What's up everybody welcome to the third episode of the car dealership guy podcast I am your host car dealership guy and today I want to talk about car leasing. I get this question a lot car dealership guy. What is going on with car leasing? Why are the payments so crazy high? I leased BMW for $300 a month three four years ago now they want $600 a month. Why is this happening? There's a very good reason for why it's happening and I'll take you through that.
I'll also talk about how leasing is impacting use car prices and how it's going to continue impacting use car prices for Several years to come at the minimum and so without further ado. Let's get into the show. Let's just start with some high-level context right historically. Why has car leasing been a popular Mechanism for consumers to get transportation. It starts with the fact that leasing gives you the option to drive a newer car at a lower monthly payment relative to if you would be buying that car. I mean because at the end of the day You're not buying the car. You're just leasing it for a couple of years.
Typically you'll get some prepaid maintenance package So you don't have to worry about maintenance for two to three years and at the end of the day you return that car You know, it's not your problem. You trade into something brand new and you're good to go and so not the smartest Financial decision necessarily, but obviously a great quality of life decision if that's what's important to you And you prefer the piece of mind that comes with leasing. Well leasing has changed a lot and leasing is down across the board big time. It's one of the areas of the car business that's been impacted the most since pre-COVID if you just look at the data on the stats around February 2019 leasing penetration the percentage of consumers that are buying the car But you know opting to leased it instead to actually buying it it actually peaked around February 2019 at 34%.
Right, so we're one in three consumers around that time. We're actually leasing their car Take a guess what that number is today it's around the mid teens and so lease penetration has fallen about 20 points Since 2019 which is extremely meaningful, but the question I'm getting asked a lot is why what is going on and Why is this happening and there's three major reasons and I'll run you through all of them right now. The first thing is that the fact that we've had higher vehicle prices and interest rates has just made the lease equation less attractive for consumers.
If you look at pre-COVID and if you fast forward all the way to today right so say the last roughly three years three and a half years The average car payment is up about 29% But the average lease payment since that period is up about 34% and so you have a five point spread between the two and that five point spread is very meaningful for consumers right This is it's one aspect that has made leasing less attractive But the fact is today if you want to lease a car and again, it's not every brand But generally speaking it's most brands the payment equation is not as attractive And you're going to end up paying more for that car or the spread will be smaller between purchasing it and leasing it Then it would have been several years ago Naturally when the financial incentive declines then consumers are less likely to want to lease a car.
This ties in to the second point which is that car manufacturers They have not had a lot of supply over our last couple of years. We've been in this super supply constrained market due to tip shortages and you know all these other reasons But as an OEM when you don't have a lot of supply. You actually prefer to sell a car as opposed to lease a car because selling a car upfront has some different economics And it's actually better for you to put another car in a road data consumers purchasing Then just putting out another lease and when you're faced with a question Okay, I let me just apply what should I do? Well, I I rather sell the car so let me reduce the incentives on the car leases so that fewer people opt in for that.
The third reason why leasing is down Is an interesting one and I actually fall into this bucket personally my my wife had a new lexist that the lease was up about a year ago And we were going to return it and then I said wait wait a second. This doesn't make any sense I ran the math I ran the the man high market value, which is you know the wholesale value I ran its traded numbers and I just realized that it does not make sense for me personally to return this car To the dealer or to the lender lexist financial because I'm in the money, right? So the car has appreciated a lot more than the residual value the residual value is just a fancy term for the value of the car If I had to you know pay it off today to lexist, which is what I ended up doing and so I'm just one example of this But there's plenty more in the market that I've fallen to this bucket and that I've had this that had done the same Math the same calculus and I've said it does not make sense for me to return my car to the dealer and let me just hold on to it.
And that's exactly the next point which is that Fewer people are returning their cars to dealers and if that is doing two things number one It's lowering lease penetration because the leasing cohort or you know people that lease cars is a very steady cohort of consumers Typically of course there's fluctuation But people that love leasing and they prefer that choir car that way and that's to prefer lifestyle They love leasing and They do it consistently and so with fewer people that lease cars choosing to buy them out instead Uh 20% to be exact right that's the difference of consumers from around 2019 till today that are opting in to actually Purchase their leases opposed to return it Well, that's putting more pressure on the use car market and of course it's reducing the demand for leasing.
All those three points combined the fact that we have higher prices higher interest rates lease offers are just not as compelling and the car manufacturers are specifically driving that And lastly the fact that fewer people are returning their leases to the dealerships. All that is resulting in reduced lease penetration as they mentioned down 34% from the peak of February 19 to the midteens today. And so the question I always get is how will this impact the use car prices and the use car market for years to come. And the answer is that it's going to have a very big significant impact because we're not replenishing the use car market with new supply.
20% fewer leases being returned to dealers. The lease penetration overall down from 34% to about 12 to 15%. All that is just we're going to result in fewer cars entering the secondary market.
It's no secret that use car prices have remained relatively steady throughout all this craziness and throughout interest rate increases. And it's simply because people that would have otherwise maybe gone for a lease or you know purchased that new car. Well, they're priced out of that market now.
They know that hey, this does not make sense. I don't want to pay 700 dollars for a lease or whatever the payment is. Well, let me just go to the use car market and I'll buy a six-pensive car there. Needless to say, they end up overpaying for some car because the use car market is also up over 40% in the last three years.
But it's still cheaper than what you'll otherwise pay on a monthly basis in lease or a new car purchase. I would say that we should expect this to continue this way. Unfortunately, until all OEMs rebound their supply and we see that lease offers become compelling again.
And lease penetration begins to rise because maybe the pricing equation is a bit more attractive. There's more incentives and it makes more sense for consumers to lease a car as opposed to buy a car. Until that point, we're going to exceed this continued pressure on the use car market.
And it's going to be mainly impacted by the fact that people are just not leasing as many cars. So I hope I hope you found that helpful and it taught you a couple of things about what is going on in the current state of leasing.
How this is going to impact the use car market and what's to come. I'll keep you posted on if there are any changes. That's all for today. Please don't forget to like and subscribe. Follow the show and I'll see you next week. Bye. Bye.