Hey, my name is Chris Brennan and you're listening to the Astrology Podcast. Joining me today is Astrologer Nick Big and Best, and we're going to be looking at Mars Uranus conjunctions in US history. So hey Nick, welcome back. Hey Chris, thanks for having me back. Oh boy, do we have a show today? We do have a show. We did another one of our classic research episodes where the problem we set in front of us was that now that Uranus has gone into Gemini for the next seven years, Mars Uranus conjunctions are going to start taking place in that sign, and there's going to be four Mars Uranus conjunctions starting next year on July 4th. We have the first Mars Uranus conjunction in Gemini taking place weirdly on the nation's birthday. And so I wanted to know more about what that's about and see if we could try to forecast the future by looking back into the past at historical conjunctions, especially when Mars can join Uranus in Gemini and see see what happens. And I think I think we found a few things, yeah.
Oh, why would say we found a few things? Absolutely. All right. So a bit of context. You and I several years ago did a whole episode on Uranus in Gemini and how that is historically coincided with really critical turning points in US history. So the first Uranus in Gemini period coincided almost perfectly perfectly with the revolutionary war and the birth of the US as a country. Then the second Uranus in Gemini period, about 84 years later coincided with the Civil War, which is the bloodiest war in US history in terms of its own people and deaths of people in the US. And then 84 years after that happened to coincide with World War II as well as the aftermath of World War II in the beginning of the Cold War. And then 84 years after that when Uranus comes around and completes another cycle brings us to today.
And basically Uranus made its first ingress into Gemini this year in the middle of 2025. And it's going to fully move into Gemini again next year. And then we're going to be in Uranus and Gemini land for the next seven years. So one of the questions is, you know, what is that going to bring? We've seen that it's coincided with major conflicts in US history. But in particular, the Mars Uranus conjunctions, since that was in the birth chart of the US at the Declaration of Independence, seem particularly potent and volatile. And so that's going to be our special study here today.
Yeah. So tell me more, what do you think about that? How do you frame that? So Uranus and Gemini and Mars in Mars conjunct Uranus? Like what do we need to say about that? Yeah. Well, Mars co-present with Uranus along with the conjunctions. The whole period that the two of them are in the same sign, sort of like two volatile, powerful, you know, bodies being in the same room, if you will. A sign can be like a room. And a room has its own quality when it's empty. And then if one person walks into the room, the room is changed by the presence of that person in that room. But if a second person comes into that room, the quality of that room is changed yet again. And it's a combination of the chemistry between the two people, whether it's friendly or hostile.
And then of course the environment they're in, the room they're in. And so Mars and Uranus do that they are like the same two, you know, shall we say people for argument's sake, being in the same room at the same time. But we're just, we're telling a story about different periods when they've been in this one particular room through American history, but also what's happened when they've been in other rooms or rather other signs. Other Mars Uranus co-presences that have happened in science other than Gemini, but have some kind of yeah, relationship or parallel to what we see happening when those two planets are co-present in Gemini.
Absolutely. Yeah. And I think that really, it takes us back to the concept that you and I just covered extensively in our episode on recurrence transits and the premise in that episode that we outlined and established and validated pretty thoroughly is that when if you have a specific signature or an aspect or an alignment between two planets in your birth chart, then whenever the same alignment reoccures in the sky, you'll have an important turning point in your life and in terms of manifesting some of the potential of that placement.
And one of our first examples of the United States, because the United States at the time of the Declaration of Independence was born with a Mars Uranus conjunction in Gemini. So part of the takeaway that we're going to see from that in this episode is that each time Mars and Uranus again move into a conjunction in the sky, that often ends up signaling an important turning point in US history, but especially so when Mars and Uranus are conjoining in Gemini itself, which is the needle sign that that signature was in in the birth chart. So we'll see some instances where the conjunctions are still relevant as major turning points in US history outside of Gemini, but I think adding them into Gemini puts an extra special emphasis on that and amplifies it really significantly in terms of historical importance.
Yeah, there's a clear pattern that Uranus and Gemini, that transit, signifies a sort of a return to position one in the cycle of US history. I mean, yeah, even before the revolutionary war, it tends to be really central even to the first Americans, the first British coming to the American continent. So yeah, there is that element, and certainly the revolutionary war being this defining starting point. We've established, especially with that episode three years ago, that it is this sort of position A1 relative to American history. And so since Uranus is in Gemini, and these periods when it has been co-present with Mars have been, usually been coincided with a lot of the real high points in these struggles we're talking about. So they're worth examining on their own.
Yeah, for sure, high points and low points. So let me show the, I'll show the Sibli chart, but one of the things that's important about this, so this is the, one of the charts for like the signing of the Declaration of the Independence on July 4, 1776, which is usually celebrated as the nation's birthday at this point. And there's different arguments about like what time to use that day and what the correct rising sign is; there's other arguments even about using other days over the course of that summer when things were coming together. But one of the things that's important about this technique is it doesn't really matter because that Mars Uranus conjunction was co-present as we'll see the entire summer that they were putting together the Declaration of Independence.
So pretty much no matter what date you use that summer, you have Mars and Uranus in the same sign in Gemini. And in this chart, Mars is at 21 degrees of Gemini and Uranus is at 8 degrees of Gemini. So that's what we call co-presence or a sign-based conjunction. And what we found is repeatedly in our historical episodes, as you said, was just that as soon as two planets move into the same sign, their energies start blending together and it's considered to be a sign-based conjunction, but then it gets more intense, the closer they are to the exact degree of the conjunction. So this is the natal signature and the fact that the US has a Mars Uranus conjunction as part of the reason why then we would expect Mars Uranus conjunctions to be important whenever they occur, especially in the sign of Gemini in US history.
And to give you an idea of why we are curious about this now at the present point in history, here's a graphic that was, I worked on and I designed with my graphic designer, Paige Herbert, who helped me to illustrate what the entire Uranus and Gemini cycle looks like that we've just entered into from 2025 until 2033. So Uranus first went into Gemini in 2025 and then it will leave Gemini for the final time in this cycle in 2033. So that's where we're looking at here is something like seven years more of this cycle. And then within that Uranus is going to station several times, but the thing we're focused on today is there's going to be four conjunctions of Mars and Uranus during the course of that transit.
The first one at three degrees of Gemini in July 4th, 2026, then the second one is the 23rd of June, 2028 at 11 degrees of Gemini. Then the next one is going to be 2030, June 15th at 19 degrees of Gemini, and then the final conjunction will be 2032, June 6th at 26 degrees of Gemini. So as you can see, Mars Uranus conjunctions take place about every two years or about every 25 months or so on average, but those are the ones we're really curious about because they will recreate the natal signature of the US birth chart perfectly, which therefore should represent an important turning point in US history that's intensified within the broader context of this seven or eight year Uranus transit, which is already marking a huge turning point in US history.
Yeah, it's really striking that that first conjunction is right there on July 4th, of course, like you mentioned. In 1776, 250 years prior to this, I mean, this is going to be a big July 4th. It's a 250th anniversary. But when the original declaration was signed, Mars was already headed like it was in the last third of Gemini by that point because from the minute it went into Gemini in June of 1776, Richard Lee drafted the resolution to declare independence, and then Thomas Jefferson started working on the text of the declaration and then they all sort of, you know, read it over and what have you. So that by the time you got to July the 4th, a whole month had gone by of Mars and Uranus being co-present, and it sort of pretty much culminated with the declaration being passed on the 4th. In this instance, it's like the conjunction itself happens on the 4th, which really does look very remarkable when you contrast it to the original event 250 years ago.
Right, absolutely. Yeah, and apparently there's going to be a lot of celebrations surrounding that. I was reading recently that like Trump was trying to schedule like a UFC fight on the front lawn of the White House for July 4th, but they're running into scheduling issues, and now it's supposedly moved back a little bit earlier to his birthday in June. What is that like June 14th or something like that? June 14th, yeah. But I think Mars will be in Gemini by then. Actually, I'm not sure about that. Don't quote me on that. It might still be in Taurus at that point. I think it's still in Taurus at that point, but certainly building up to the conjunction.
But that's obviously that's not going to be the only thing like that's funny and weird symbolically, but as we'll see through in the course of this episode, these conjunctions are kind of tough. Like with all planets, of course, there can be a range of positive and negative manifestations, and sometimes it'll be more constructive, and sometimes it'll be less. But Mars is traditionally like the planet of war and conflict and strife and division, whereas Uranus is the planet of sudden changes, unexpected happenings and events, radical pushes for freedom and liberation, and when you put these two planets together, sometimes it can result in a pretty volatile combination where you have these like sometimes very sudden violent events that can take place on these conjunctions is like one of the recurring themes that we'll see come up over and over again at different points, especially with like conflicts or wars or battles or other things like that, right?
Yeah, yeah. Well, certainly we're getting into a lot of wars, and there are other violent episodes as well that we're including here. Yeah, but not everything. Sometimes Mars, Uranus is just things happening, a lot of things happening very quickly. If it's not surprising, it's it's an accelerant, and yeah, one of those times when you can be sitting around waiting forever for something to happen, and then everything happens very quickly in a short period of time. Absolutely.
Yeah, everything happens all at once. We had that actually on our last Mars Uranus conjunction, which like not to give away the whole thing already, but like our last Mars Uranus conjunction took place about a year and a half ago. It was that one in Taurus, and that was the week that there was the assassination attempt in Pennsylvania on Trump's life. Then like two days later, the Republican National Convention opens, and he announces JD Vance as his vice presidential running mate. The court case, a major court case involving the documents, like secret documents, it was hanging over Trump's head, was suddenly dismissed by a judge that exact same day, the exact day of the conjunction, and then Trump is nominated as the Republican candidate, and then two days later Biden announces he has COVID, and then a few days after that, he drops out of the race entirely, which completely upends the presidential race, and in retrospect, we can see Paves the way for Trump's winning the presidency and starting his second presidency.
So when you say, when you said like, sometimes a lot of things happen at once, that is a pretty good example of some crazy stuff that can all happen at once during these conjunctions. Yeah, and even going back to 1776, there's a lot in that period as well, leading to the declaration of independence. That is likewise a lot of things happening very quickly after a period of great uncertainty. So yeah, that is a common observation we can make.
Yeah, but on the other side, as we, I mean, I'm glad you said there can sometimes be positive things, because as we'll see, there can sometimes be positive developments as well. One of the ones I found that we'll talk about was the passage in the House, the critical turning point where the House, the US government essentially passed the 13th Amendment, which is the amendment that outlawed slavery. So that in that instance, it's the sudden freedom and liberation of this huge group of people that have been oppressed since the founding of the country in that moment around the time of a Mars Uranus conjunction.
So, and by parallel, even like the Declaration of Independence itself was the colonies banding together and deciding to break away from England and to form their own country in this push for freedom and liberation by essentially separating from a larger political entity can be part of the process as well. So we'll see a lot of like revolutions, push for liberation, sometimes insurrections, and other things like that, into these conjunctions.
Yeah, exactly. I was thinking the same thing, whether it's the 13th Amendment freeing slaves or whether it's the original declaration of independence. The theme of freedom is certainly very Uranian and all the more so Mars Uranian. Mars, making Mars a planet of action, making it happen. But yeah, Uranus is a planet of ideals, a planet that looks to how things should be rather than how things are and what needs to be changed.
So, yeah, that's going to be a common thing that people need to be changed is if they don't feel like they're free. Right, and Mars is the planet, though, of action and of taking up arms and like sometimes getting what you want by force or doing things forcefully. And when you put that together with Uranus, sometimes it is people taking up arms in order to achieve that Uranian ideal of freedom.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so that's one aspect of things that we're going to be seeing. Trying to think of other things we should say to set it up. But for the most part, it's like, we don't have to because we're going to let history speak for itself. And that's one of the things is that in trying to anticipate what this upcoming period is going to look like, our purpose in this episode is just to look back in history at these three distinct periods that we're going to go through in order, starting with the Revolutionary War period, then the Civil War period, and then the World War II time period, and see what happened and what events came up in these different Mars-era misconceptions during those periods.
And then what some of the overlaps and parallels were between the periods. And then through that, we can kind of like infer or let history speak for itself in terms of what that means if some of these cycles are going to be repeating over the course of the next seven years or so. Yeah, exactly. Let's let the material speak for itself because I think a lot of it is more or less self-explanatory.
Yeah, totally. All right. So this is going to be one of our legendarily long episodes because it's a big research episode. So everybody should buckle in, like make some tea or some coffee or something like that. We're going to share our research with you. There will be timestamps where you can jump around theoretically if you wanted to, but yeah, with our episodes, it always pays to, you know, we're going to give you a huge download of a bunch of information over the course of this and the people that stick through it, I think, will be handsomely rewarded because that's part of the process of like learning astrology is like sometimes you get to learn a lot of things.
We're going to summarize as much as we can, but there's a lot to go over today. Any other preliminaries before we jump into our first period or certainly like major things I'm forgetting that we we're overlooking? No, let's just say give me liberty or give me death and get on with it. Okay. I will liberate us from this long introduction right now. Thank you. Thank you.
Okay. Patrick Henry did have the sun in Gemini and Uranus was conjunct his sun when he said something to the effect of give me liberty or give me death in the spring of 1776. So there you go. There you go. All right. All right. Well, let's jump into our first period, which is the Revolutionary War period and I'll share the graphic that Paige made for the period of Uranus and Gemini from 1774 to 1782.
So that was the period from the first ingress of Uranus into Gemini June 19th, 1774, all the way until its final ingress out of egress out of Gemini and into cancer for the final time on April 28th 1782. And if you ask any historian, you know, what was going on in US history like during this time period when Uranus was in Gemini back then they will tell you that this pretty perfectly encapsulates the period of the US Revolutionary War.
And for our purposes, we're going to be focusing in particular on these four conjunctions and co-presences that took place between Mars and Uranus where the first conjunction exact conjunction between Mars and Uranus took place June 25th 1774. The second exact conjunction took place June 15th 1776. Then the next one was June 7th 1778 and the final one was May 29th 1780. And of course the co-presences for these are going to span out maybe a month or so either side ahead of or after the conjunction it'll it'll vary and I may put up like a data sheet in post just to show you when the co-presences are. But that gives you a rough idea of the time frames that we're looking at for those four conjunctions of Mars and Uranus. Yep.
So one of the things you and I found as we were putting this together is like initially I was trying to keep this narrowly focused just to make it manageable of like only look at the Mars Uranus conjunctions in Gemini and we found a ton of stuff as we'll see during those periods. But one of the things that's really important about these periods is that it's part of a sequence and what we found basically is that there were Mars Uranus conjunctions in the previous sign and Taurus that often acted as a precursor that set up that set the stage and led into the culmination of events that occurred under Mars conjoining Uranus and Gemini. But there were those precursors of Mars conjunct Uranus and Taurus the previous sign. And then once Mars Uranus and Gemini was wrapping up and winding down once Uranus started moving into cancer there would start being Mars Uranus conjunctions in cancer and that would sometimes carry forward or bring to completion some of the themes that had previously sort of culminated under the Mars Uranus conjunctions in Gemini.
So for our purposes even though we're going to focus on Mars Uranus conjunctions in Gemini we're also going to have to pay attention to how some of the lead-up in the following conjunctions were part of that story and it's unfolding in the events basically, right? Yeah, it's it'll be clear to people why we're including Mars Uranus co-presences in Taurus and Cancer and sometimes other signs in this story. It's all part of the big larger narrative just fleshes out the story.
All right so the Revolutionary War starts April 19th 1775 and it lasts until September 3rd 1783 so that gives you some time frame of that and in terms of setup though one of the Mars Uranus conjunctions that you pointed out that happened in Taurus as a as a buildup I believe was that British warships arrived in Boston, Harbor in 1760, September of 1768 under a Mars Uranus conjunction in Taurus, right? Yeah, I think you found that one but I do know this this this story. After yeah the the Townsend acts are sort of a precursor to the later intolerable acts and there's there's the pushback right away and and so the British sends the military and this is the beginning of a a British occupation effectively of Boston and it'll eventually they'll be the Boston massacre two years later at the end of 1770 and then as things get more tense the eventually these are the same troops who will be there or some of them are the same troops who will be there one more breaks out in 1775.
So what's the context just the synopsis for US history is like um that entire let's say seven year period before Mars before Uranus goes into Gemini and we have the Revolutionary War that almost perfectly coincides with Uranus Gemini there's like this buildup phase where things start ramping up pretty rapidly during the course of Uranus and Taurus for that seven years before the Revolutionary War where there's becoming increasing tensions between the colonies in the United States and England and the and the British crown and the there starts being especially conflict over taxation right?
Yeah for the the New England part of the Civil War it's taxation and that's what these warships being in in Boston Harbor you know are all about is the dispute over being taxed without having a say in it is I think the the real sticking point. Once you go down to Virginia it's the the Revolutionary War is about other things but yeah certainly as far as people like Samuel and John Adams and the other Massachusetts Revolutionaries that is the big the big turning you know right grievance.
Yeah so and it's like this was important to this conjunction in September of 1768 because this is the first military occupation of a colonial city when you could really see things heading in that direction because one of the themes that we'll see they really came up in this one that sometimes happens is um there starts being these little rebellions and then sometimes the people in power will attempt to suppress the rebellion through military means sometimes brutally but then sometimes it'll backfire and just lead to a larger rebellion at that point in a larger war conflict and that's kind of the scenario that we see most distinctly here in the Revolutionary War period is the colonies starting to grumble and like and and itch and kind of yearn for having more more freedom and self autonomy or even like recognition of equality of like not being yeah recognition of equality and then some things there but then in the response from the the the British is to start clamping down harder and to start exerting military force and sometimes like overreaching.
Eventually leading to things like like the Boston massacre when a bunch of people were shot um who were protesting and then that suddenly lights a fire or throws gasoline on a small fire and just makes it explode and makes it much larger and that that's really interesting it's one of the recurring themes that we'll see is we sometimes talk about like Pluto making things bigger but Uranus also when it gets together with Mars takes a little Mars thing and it seems like it blows it up into what we'll see later is eventually like a big mushroom cloud yeah yeah.
I mean to be fair the the the British weren't just you know strong arming at this point I mean yeah they send troops to sort of you know quiet down trouble but they are trying other things to keep the colonists happy um the whole reason for the taxation is that there had just been a a big war fought um it's called the French and Indian war in the states but it was really a world war the it's called the seven years war and the rest of the world it's the war where my hometown Montreal was conquered by the British from the French um a lot of things changed around and and the American colonists thought because of this war they had they had been you know they were still British at this point themselves they thought because the British won this war that they were going to have access to um you know land maybe going out to Mississippi they were hoping.
But the British had actually promised various Amerindian nations that that actually they would you know they would contain their colony and that um places like the modern day Ohio and what have you would would remain in French and Indian hands and a lot of the the the colonists American colonists were upset by this they they thought like hey we won this war we should be getting this land and so they would defy the the the the British boundaries and send settlers you know into what was uh legally Indian territory and then there'd be pushback and then the British would have to send the military in there to protect the colonists and so that cost money um and that's what you know the the colonists were being taxed for and um yeah there was uh not right around that same time that the warships arrived in Boston Harbor in November of 1768 there was a treaty that the British signed with the Haudenosaunee who are often known as the the Iroquon Nation and uh it's called the treaty for Stanwix and it was a treaty that was signed to sort of establish the new borders that um the the the peace treaty from the war had agreed to five years earlier in 1763.
So what Mars and Uranus were still in Taurus on November 5th 1768 when this treaty was signed and it was meant to really sort of establish the new boundaries between where the colonial would live and where um the the Amerindians would live but that that's soon to be it if anything this treaty probably caused more problems than it solved and um and so a lot of what would unfold outside of New England with with with with with respect to the grievance that sparked the revolutionary war a lot of it has to do with um people particularly Virginians, Pennsylvanians um feeling like it's their right to move west and establish settlements deeper into the interior um despite what treaties the British would sign got it okay so um that's that conjunction so this is a this is Mars Uranus and Taurus and it's setting the stage for everything
but then we jump forward a couple of conjunctions to 1772 um and there's one more Mars Uranus conjunctions in Taurus that where things keep like heating up and escalating. basically right yeah yeah in June of 1772 there's a British um the schooner like a custom schooner um the gas bay um and it's attacked by Rhode Island colonists and um they they they lure the vessel aground they attack the captain they remove the crew they burn the the ship and it's all um a protest against the the enforcement of trade laws and um yeah you know it's it's quite a rowdy incident maybe one of the more aggressive ones that the colonists did prior to the actual war breaking out um and this is before the Boston Tea Party by whole year and a half and this is a Mars Uranus conjunction in Taurus correct yeah okay so just um I'll keep trend or remember but if we don't remember it's like every event we're talking about is a Mars Uranus conjunction or co-presence in Taurus which again like the co-presence only lasts especially when Mars is direct and not moving retrograde.
Mars is only in a sign for like a month and a half for like a couple of months basically right yeah yeah um you know it can be shorter if it's really close to the Sun it can be you know a month got it okay all right so then we jump forward um a couple of years to the next Mars Uranus conjunction which is one of our final sets of like buildup things that puts everything in in place right yeah um the the intolerable acts there's there's a few of them these are acts that the British government was passing in 1774 that was really um getting the colonists more and more angry and and furthering the sort of the split that was setting in um there yeah there's there's a a number of different sort of um um trade acts and a quartering act where where troops have to be you know um accommodated in people's homes and what have you um so it really sort of gets everyone up in arms um all the more so and and basically sparks it's these these intolerable acts um are what make the colonists finally agree to get together and and have the first continental congress in September of 1774 effectively that you know um provoking the creation of the first um US government of sorts albeit you know unofficial at first right.
So this is like the intolerable acts so they're passed under this Mars Uranus conjunction are a series of acts of laws that are passed by the British to clamp down after especially the Boston Tea Party and they closed the port of Boston they restricted town meetings um they allowed royal officials accused of crimes to be tried in England and did all sorts of stuff like made them house troops locally in Boston and this is what lead this literally prompts the first continental congress which is the thing that then eventually leads to the Declaration of Independence exactly exactly okay so in some ways it's like um this conjunction marks when the colonies were really locked into a path of war at this point it seems like now in retrospect okay a path of war yes um they don't think so but yeah I'd say I mean it's making it more inevitable now if that's what you mean sure obviously everybody could like call it off and decide not to go to war so there was a certainly act of volition but it just seems like this is one of the final things in retrospect where we can see there's like this arc or like a graph that's like rising in the the temperature and the heat is sort of culminating and leading to the eventual culmination that would happen within the next few years of officially like declaring independence and declaring war.
Yeah no I'm even like the the following year even after um um the first fighting has started the colonists are um do you send what they they call an olive branch you know message to the king trying to sort of you know smooth things over and say hey we're still willing to talk but by that point um the signals have been crossed and as far as the king is concerned they've really you know crossed the Rubicon so 1775 is when everyone knows that they're at war and there's no turning back but certainly this is this these acts are what um accelerate the whole sort of resistance build up and and yeah the creation of the continental conquest which in itself is kind of um something of a miracle to have happened because the different colonies don't really care for each other or relate to each other at this point they're very different from each other um and they're only getting together because things have become so intolerable in their in their view right.
And it's like at the same time period under this same exact conjunction in on July 18th of 1774 the Fairfax resolves are put together and this was Virginia rejecting the British Supreme Authority and it was actually drafted by George Mason and George Washington in July of 1774 during the time of this conjunction and this was another really pivotal document that was like headed in that direction yeah you can you can say it's a sort of precursor to the declaration of independence um and Virginia is gonna um you know have its uh form itself into our republic a couple of weeks before the actual declaration of independence is signed so in many ways you know the the the the creation of the United States is following um a sort of pattern that Virginia is setting by declaring its own independence making it itself a republic that that isn't quite happening yet in 1774 but it will be happening by 1776 just as the US is about to yeah but all the seeds are clearly there already in this document on this conjunction because they're like um asserting virginian and colonial rights basically they're rejecting parliament supreme authority and declaring that the colonists were not conquered subjects but were free Englishman and also demanding consent for taxation calling for intercolonial unity and boycotts and all sorts of other things to protest against the coercive acts so it was like moving the colonies in the direction of having a unified resistance and eventual independence yeah absolutely all right so that's really important and then just you know to go back slightly it's like um one of the things we're gonna see in modern times is like keep all of this in mind because these are all the Mars Uranus conjunctions that were happening in tourists and on each one of them as we've seen they were heading they were taking us towards the culmination of what ended up being the war under Uranus and Gemini and the parallel today is like we're just finishing up all of the Mars Uranus conjunctions in tourists that have been taking place over the past decade and some of those were already mentioned the one that happened a year and a half ago with that pivotal turning point during the 2024 presidential election when there was the attempted assassination of Trump there was the picking advance there was the getting rid of his legal issues and then there was Biden dropping out of the race and then before that one of the precursor ones the one one of the ones a couple of years before that happened at the beginning of 2021 and that was um January 6th and that was Biden's inauguration that was this heavily militarized inauguration that happened in the immediate aftermath of January 6th and the disputed 2020 US presidential election so it's like you know parallels are those conjunctions we'll get to we'll get into in more detail later but but think about you know these these are why we're going through some of these parallels here.
Yeah yeah all right so this takes us to the most important event now when we jump forward two years to the next set of Mars Uranus conjunctions and Gemini they took place in the late spring and early summer of 1776 and the most important one was the Declaration of Independence itself which was the formal founding essentially of the United States when the Continental Congress adopted the document that legally severed ties with Great Britain and it transformed the colonial rebellion into a war for sovereignty and independence so hugely important turning point and it's falling right on this Mars Uranus conjunction which is now not happening in Taurus it's happening in Gemini so we've now fully moved into the Uranus and Gemini era and this is one of the first conjunctions that's taking place there.
Yeah that's uh that's uh that's the truth that um at the self-evident truth um all men are created equal and Mars and Uranus work co-president Gemini yeah and obviously the ideal is ideals of all been being created equal but then that not necessarily being the case and then one year and a cycle later that question gets revisited where they take a further step towards actually actualizing that ideal by making um making it so that a huge part of the human population wasn't enslaved right all right so yeah so what happened on a Mars Uranus conjunction subsequently in Uranus so um one of the things that's important that you already mentioned but it bears repeating since we're in this section but it sort of culminates with the Declaration of Independence.
But that um the committee to draft the Declaration of Independence was formed on June 11th 1776 and this is very close to the exact conjunction which occurred on June 15th at seven degrees of Gemini so um that's actually what's interesting is like they were drafting the constitution during the course of that month basically the entire time that Mars was passing over and conjoining Uranus and that the two were co-president in the same sign and while we think of it as a singular event which is just the Declaration of Independence there was this entire process and this entire almost like storm that was swirling that entire summer that was putting all of this together.
Yeah and the following day June 12th was when the Virginia Declaration of Rights was adopted and and a lot of what went into the Declaration of Independence was you know already coming out in the the Declaration of Rights Virginia was was forming it's that the Commonwealth was forming itself Patrick Henry was becoming the first president of the Virginia Commonwealth Uranus can jump to Sun it's right around this time he's saying give me liberty or give me death or something to that effect and that is sort of the prototype for the US presidency you know it's it's the they're they're setting up a you know a the Virginia state that'll the there'll be a sort of a parallel created as Jefferson is writing the Declaration of Independence and they're eventually going to create a US government as well but yeah that's all happening at the same time so nice okay.
And one of their thing that happened during this time that I thought was interesting and important very close to the exact conjunction is there was a plot called the Hickey plot to assassinate George Washington which was discovered in June of 1776 and the plot was discovered around June 20th or so which is only like five days after the exact Mars Uranus conjunction took place and one of the conspirators Thomas Hickey was court marshaled and then they hung him on June 28th but it was really important and pivotal moment because the failure of the plot and the execution of one of the conspirators kind of solidified the new government's authority and demonstrated the need to both purge internal threats as the British forces were in the process of approaching New York but the failure of the plot it's sort of like forced them even more to ban together and realize that this is even more serious and that they were in like a real war basically at this point.
Yeah yeah absolutely so and the parallel with that of course is interesting just because we have a failed assassination attempt on this Mars Uranus conjunction that takes place on literally on George Washington June of 1776 and then as we've already talked about we have a parallel with that that happened in the summer in what was it July of June yeah July was July of 2024 yeah yeah July of 2024 with the failed assassination attempt on President Trump who was like candidate or former former president Trump at the time but there's like interesting like parallelism there yeah sure is all right so after this there's a lot of things that happen that summer but we're going to jump forward to the next Mars Uranus conjunction that took place two years later right mm-hmm yeah in 1778 and this was a period in 1778 the war of sort of pivots in February France agrees to to join the war on the side of the colonists and the word of that. arrives back on the American side in May and all winter long George Washington and the troops have been freezing freezing to death and training under Baron von Stoyben and really getting sort of trained as a as a European style military so that when they come out to fight in the spring of 1778 there are much more there are a much better trained army than they've been up until that point.
And there's a large battle called the Battle of Monmouth close to Philadelphia and it's yeah probably one of Washington’s you know greater victories greater achievements it's a huge battle and it does the British are overwhelmed and they wind up evacuating Philadelphia running off to New York and this basically ends the war in the northern half of what is now the country but from here on the revolutionary war just sort of moves south it's gonna it's gonna happen in it's gonna all the actions gonna be in Virginia and South Carolina and North Carolina it's a some degree is opposed to happening in Pennsylvania and New York and Massachusetts okay nice and I thought this one is notable that this happens right near the Mars conjunction near a Mars Uranus conjunction in June of 1778 and that it's notable is the largest single day battle of the entire revolutionary war that fell out right on this Mars Uranus conjunction.
Yeah it's the largest single day battle and it's also like it's it's the last battle that the Americans are gonna fight without basically the French you know winning it for them because yeah from here on it's gonna be that the the war in the southern states is gonna be really brutal and the British will dominate until the French Navy comes in you know at the 11th hour is it worth at Yorktown so this really is it's a real victory for the Americans it's a military victory for the Americans and it does win you could say half the war you know even if the the French never came in on the side of the colonists I think because of van Muthy at the Americans would have won something at the negotiating table you know so yeah important for that reason as well and this one the spattles also famous due to the the rage of George Washington cursing out the the general who retreated on the other side as well as for the legend of Molly pitcher right right Charles Lee was a highly regarded general and he was I mean generally well thought of but he did not he thought he should be in charge rather than Washington so he was known to be a bit yeah disobedient or what have you with with Washington.
But he does he does he's leading a retreat in the middle of van Muth and and Washington rages at him and and yeah you know Lee winds up losing face later on Lee will be kidnapped he'll he'll go off to some tavern in the middle of the campaign and the British British spies at the tavern and finds out and he gets kidnapped and he winds up giving very important military secrets to the British when he's in their custody so that's kind of a disgrace and then Molly pitcher was a woman whose her husband was manning one of the guns and he gets shot and so she jumps in and um you know um takes over takes over the fighting takes over the gun he was manning nice that's cool that that like legendary story about her and of you know there's some themes there of like women in combat or like breaking norms in battle that seem matching with like Mars conjuncturitis.
Yeah I mean to to some extent obviously you know military history is mostly male dominated um but yeah I mean something like this where where um ultimately in in wars of this period you know everyone's along anyway you know women were present during these battles because the armies armies traveled with women and children you know um wives of soldiers would be helping out as nurses and what have you but so there are women around and yeah you know if if a gunner gets shot and and the situation is really vulnerable then um you know who who is so male showvoness is to stop a woman from jumping in and and taking over I mean lots of male showvoness are but in this instance that's what. makes this legend striking in American history just because it was an instance where a woman becomes like a you know central figure in a battle.
Yeah all right so after this we jump forward two years and under this Mars Uranus conjunction in May of 1780 there's a notable a major like massacre that takes place right well yeah it's a it's a it's a battle the the wax haws battle where the the British cavalry are wielding sabers and they just go after these American infantry and really cut them into pieces so it's it's a particularly like um bloody you know um kind of battle the kind of bloody battle you only get when you know horsemen with sabers are coming at you from all directions so it's kind of gruesome there and really cements the reputation of this guy uh banister charlton who um becomes sort of a boogie man monster for Americans in the south because he's just such a bloodthirsty maniacal soldier really brutal right because the point though is that like the American soldiers were surrendering and the British forces killed them so that it was like this pivotal moment in terms of the brutality that radicalized a lot of the local population and turned the conflict into the south into more of a bitter guerrilla war at that point.
And I think that's a really interesting keyword there because uh Mars Uranus the idea of guerrilla warfare or um warfare that's being done in a way that's unique or different or weird or innovative um as being a good keyword for Mars Uranus and of course that is one of the things the revolutionary wars known for as you have this smaller force with the the colonists up against a much larger and more advanced force with the British and in order to like level the playing field they're using um guerrilla warfare in different tactics like that in order to to get an edge yeah but and that's what's ironic in a way about banister charlton's you know fighting way of fighting at wax haws because um when washington had been fighting the French and Indian war when washington had been a young British soldier I mean he saw that you know trying to fight um Amerindians in a european style where you know all the troops gather on a field and you know uh get up in the morning line up uh you know literally like soldiers and then start fighting it that wasn't going to work in this setting that you know um that that all kinds of uh subterfuge and and you know other manners of guerrilla fighting were going to be necessary in order to win.
So that was the lesson that washington learned in the previous war and then by this war yeah the the American colonists are um are often fighting in a kind of guerrilla style combat and wax haws is in a way is is a british you know response to it to to you know also be sort of guerrilla like you know um to adapt to this way of fighting and got it yeah yeah this battle though it becomes like a rally in cry for american revenge and the massacre thing that was important here because I've we see later in in later chronologies like other massacres taking place on marzureness conjunctions of course the most famous one ends up being like the culmination of all of them ends at being in world war two at the end of world war two is the dropping of the atomic bombs on he or shima and naga sake um which are just like a you know much much bigger version of that in terms of of massacres but we'll see that theme come up a few times oh yeah absolutely yep.
All right and then there was another major under this conjunction just a little bit earlier or in the same line yeah and may of 1780 there was another important military turning point yeah there was um the siege of charleston south carolina um the british laid siege to it um there were like five thousand troops at last it six weeks so a siege means that a city is is or an area is cut off from food supply and other things and they they tried to sort of starve and tire out people within a city and that's ultimately what happened the the city. wound up surrendering um to the british and it was pretty much the worst defeat that the continental army um experienced in the south i mean they were basically uh taken out the only the only colonial army that would come to the south that would fight in the south after the surrender of charleston is washington's troops that come down to virginia from pennsylvania um the following year so yeah this kind of um uh right up until this point this is about a year and a half before the war is going to end at york to well the the the the fighting will end at york town but it is um at this point it does look like the british have really taken the south and it's only going to it's going to be um you know it's going to take more fighting to really beat them down all right um so that's major and then we jump forward two years to the next marzureanis conjunction and this is the one that's the most striking to me after the declaration of independence falling on a marzureanis conjunction which is like the beginning of the war is that on the marzureanis conjunction uh in april of 1782 marks the beginning of the diplomatic end to the revolutionary war when um a british representative is sent to meet with the american rebel uh representative benjamin franklin who sent on behalf of the us to meet with the british and paris and this is the beginning of negotiating peace talks that would eventually lead to the treaty of paris and international recognition of the united states as a a separate independent country.
So we get functionally like the beginning of the end of the american revolutionary war happening on a marzureanis conjunction just as it started functionally with the declaration of independence under a conjunction yeah no that is very striking i mean the peace talks would go on for a while but they do start under the marzureanis the initial contact between oswald and franklin uh does happen there so yeah it is amazing it was only about a month earlier or so the end of february six weeks earlier that british parliament had voted to end the war because when they found out about york town they're just like forget about it we're pulling out and so these peace talks begin um yeah less than two months after the british have decided to end the war and uh richardos walt from britain goes and meets benjamin franklin in paris and the peace talks begin brilliant so that's amazing and we'll see some parallels with that um with the end of some wars under marzureanis conjunctions such as like the end of world war two not just coinciding with the dropping of the atomic bombs on japan but then immediately after that like the immediate surrender of japan which then ends the war in the pacific and functionally basically ends world war two under marzureanis conjunction as well.
So I think that's really important to keep in mind and I was thinking about that because I think it has to do with the fact that we're looking at conjunctions here and a conjunction of course is the start of a new cycle between two planets in terms of their relationship with each other so sometimes you'll have the beginning of something like the beginning of a war like the beginning of the american revolutionary war under marzureanis conjunction but then conjunctions are also the end of a cycle and they bring to completion of something that came before as well and in some instances that can be marking the end of a conflict or the end of a war after once you get towards the end of something yeah yeah exactly it's it's very tidy yeah the way a book ends it yeah absolutely.
And then as a post script so you know then urinus moves into cancer after that and we started new like seven year period of urinus in cancer and get this the u.s constitution is signed and ratification begins in a marzureanis co-presence in cancer in 1787 and 1788 so this is the same during the ratification the same marz retrograde that you and I did a whole episode on when we did an episode on marz retrograding cancer in us history because the constitution would be signed with marz ingressing into cancer and becoming co-present with urinus.
But then during the course of all the states ratifying it or going through the process of starting to debate it basically and all the debates between the federalists and the anti-federalists marz went retrograding cancer co-present with urinus. Yeah yeah it's very very striking um the the the shaping of the constitution proceeded. It but as soon as they were ready just a couple of days before they were ready to sign it in september of 1887 marz made the ingress to cancer were it joined the south node which was getting ready to leave cancer.
But I find it really funny that the the signing of the the constitution was marz and cancer with the south node which is like an already weak marz like even more sort of depleted um and and then heading into that that retrograde were all the sort of the the back and forth is going to start um over over ratifying the document and what ensues like you said between the federalists and anti-federalists.
Yeah so so that means um you know if you so if you step back and look at the complete picture here it's like we have the precursors to the war the build up to it taking place on the marz Uranus conjunctions in torus during that like seven year period we have the revolutionary war being encapsulated almost perfectly by especially the marz Uranus conjunctions in Gemini over a seven year period.
And then um early on in the subsequent period of marz Uranus conjunctions in cancer we have the creation of the actual governmental structure of the united states with the creation of the constitution.
Yeah it's wild it's wild um the way the way it happens then it's yeah yeah that's insane so that's a good example you know of our occurrence trans it basically the united states that especially the united u.s has this signature in the birth chart in declaration of independence basically and then this signature just becomes important when it keeps happening um at different points in u.s history and a lot of it is is built into the foundation of the country and this succession of like foundation charts basically that often end up having this conjunction is indifferent in as well basically.
Yeah yeah nice okay um you mentioned the node and I'm wondering if this is a good period to mention that piece since it's not something that were otherwise mentioning but one of the things you focused on is um the periods when when eclipses start taking place in Gemini as being particularly important turning points. during the course of the Uranus and Gemini transit but also the marz Uranus conjunctions in Gemini because eclipses will magnify things significantly right yeah they'll they'll they'll magnify and sort of put the put the given sign at the sort of the the center of the whole story so yeah when when eclipses are happening in Gemini are certainly when the one of the lunar nodes is going through Gemini um yeah it really sort of centers the the story all the more on that particular sign and just makes it that much more Gemini intensive.
So and the eclipses that were happening in Gemini when the north node was transiting through Gemini were happening like 1777 1778 and 1779 right yeah exactly right it you know right where they're going from um you know the colonists are struggling with the British but they win Saratoga and then the French agree because the because they win Saratoga in 1777 the French agree to come in on their side in early 1778 and then by 1779 is is where the war is shifting from the northern theater to the southern theater apart from um you know fighting fighting the Haudenosaunee the Mohawks which does continue in the north but they're not fighting the British in the north so the British fighting the British moves to the south at that time as well got it.
Okay and you also tie this together with um Mars retrogrades which really will come up more in one of the later ones where there's some Uranus and Gemini periods where there will also be like a Mars retrograde in Gemini and that's those that's another filtering factor that can even amplify the importance even higher if there's a Mars retrograde in in Gemini during the course of the entire like Uranus and Gemini transit because then it's like taking as we saw in the recurrence transits episode um sometimes the the retrogrades would be one of the markers which would show one of the most most important or more important recurrence transits compared to other just regular conjunctions.
Yeah well I mean when when Mars goes retrograde in a given sign it winds up spending a good six maybe even sometimes seven months in a sign um and that's what you get both the civil war and world war two are periods when Mars goes retrograde in Gemini while Uranus is in Gemini and you do get these really prolonged periods where the the co-presence of the two planets last half a year um so yeah that's that that that is important and it's a it's a striking sort of um accident of astronomy.
Do you want to show that Venn diagram now or are we the since we're yes or yeah that's why I wanted to mention it because I wanted to make sure we show that before we um yeah move on so use the diagram yeah this is a diagram I sent to Chris the other day when we were preparing um so if we think about the yeah if we have these four periods we have 1774 to 1782 which is the revolutionary war 1858 to 1865 for the civil war 1941 to 49 for the Pearl Harbards in NATO uh world war two thing and then 2025 to 2033 the thing that's coming up so um with regards to uh the cycle of Mars and with regard to the cycle of nodes um I came up with this via this Venn diagram that shows what what these four periods have in common with each other how they differ.
So the revolutionary war um and the coming period will include a Sun Mars conjunction in Gemini um in 1774 there was a a Sun Mars conjunction in Gemini in 1778 it was Sun Mars Uranus conjunct and that was actually King George III's 40th birthday his solar return for the year that um his colonists and his greatest enemy the French are gonna join up against him um and then the Sun Mars conjunction coming up will be in the year 2030 there'll be Sun Mars conjunct in Gemini while it's co-presence with Uranus um but then in the revolutionary war you did have the north node went into Gemini like like we were saying between 1777 and 1779 and eclipses happened with that north node and that's something that um the revolutionary war shares in common with world war two world war two or or just after getting out of world war two the early cold war in 1945 46 47 um the north node went into Gemini during that period and we had eclipses happening with Gemini um while Mars and Uranus were co-present in Gemini um or certainly while Uranus was in Gemini.
Whereas the civil war and the upcoming period um are gonna be periods where the south node goes into Gemini and we have eclipses with the south node this was true during the civil war um from 1863 uh 1862 to 1863 and then it'll happen again this time around I think around 2028 2029 2030 something like that more or less and then as we said earlier the revolution um the sorry the civil war and world war two have Mars retrogrades in Gemini whereas the revolutionary war and the upcoming period of Sun Mars conjunctions. So yeah the then diagram should make it clear make it clearer than how I just tried to explain it but um that's that there's an interesting sort of overlay of patterns at work here and um I think these are two key criteria to look at to get a sense of what's different and what's um the same about these these different periods in history.
Yeah so that means functionally then the period that we're looking at that's coming up from 2025 to 2033 that Uranus and Gemini period the present one the two parallels if you're approaching it from this perspective with Mars and the nodal cycles and the eclipses is that our current period it has overlap the closest overlaps with the revolutionary war period when there was a sun Mars conjunction in Gemini and there will be a sun Mars conjunction in Gemini coming up and then the other overlap is with the civil war period which also had the south node in Gemini so we will also have the south node in Gemini over the course the next decade.
So then because that was one of the questions you and I had in the last episode was in the 2022 episode where we just covered Uranus and Gemini as broad periods without Mars conjunct Uranus is we could see the pattern from the three previous Uranus and Gemini periods where we had a civil war we had World War II and we had a revolutionary war and so we had a pattern for either an internal conflict like the civil war or an external conflict like World War II in the question of whether our upcoming period was going to be either an internal conflict an external conflict or both and this one seems like it's leaning it's almost inclining more towards the well it's like the civil war one on the one hand with the south node in Gemini.
But then that's one of the things that's interesting about the revolutionary war as we think about that as more of an external conflict in retrospect of like you know the quote-unquote Americans versus the British but one thing that's funny about that war is it was kind of like a civil war itself because yeah absolutely yeah British colonists and people you know often conceptualizing themselves still in some ways is British but that we're breaking away from Britain and like setting up their themselves independently.
Yeah I mean again I'm from Montreal and the the whole sort of I mean Montreal was a 100% French city until this war ended and a lot of people who had been living in what is now the United States were compelled to leave their homes and move up to Canada and move up to places like Montreal to this day there's a group in Canada called the United Empire Loyalist you know people who are descendants of the original refugees who came up after the war so yeah it's a whole thing it absolutely was a civil war that's what gets very brutal you know is yeah you know for instance if like Philadelphia for a while was taken over by the British but then the British evacuated and so the people left in Philadelphia who had been friendly with the British or suddenly you know in a very precarious position because then the the colonists come back in and see the traitors and you know that gets ugly and and so yeah there's a lot about the revolutionary war that that had civil war like connotations to it.
Yeah so at least from this perspective we're looking at something that is similar to the revolutionary war or something going back to the founding of the country basically and the things that were set up at the founding of the country and some sort of return to are reckoning with those foundations and then on the other hand we're looking at something similar to like the civil war and what happened during that time frame of the country sort of like turning on to itself but you have both the civil war internal conflict and a little bit of an external conflict vibe due to the revolutionary war and its situation as well yeah all right well that's helpful helpful framing for everything I think that's good for the revolutionary war shall we transition into talking about the civil war sure thing let's do that.
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All right let's move into the next section where we're going to talk about Uranus and Gemini during the time of the US civil war so let me share the graphic first which is the graphic that page made which shows the Uranus and Gemini period from 1858 when Uranus returned back to Gemini which is the zodiac sign that it was in during the time of the revolutionary war 80 84 years later and Uranus stayed in Gemini until 1866 so if you tell any historian those dates when the planet Uranus was in that zodiac sign of Gemini from 1858 to 1866 they will immediately explain and tell you that the US civil war took place from 1861 until 1865 so right in the middle of that Uranus and Gemini period.
So during the course of that period there were four Mars Uranus conjunctions that we're going to look at there was one that took place on April 27 1859 at one degree of Gemini the next one took place April 17 1861 at nine degrees of Gemini then the next one after that was April 7 1863 at 17 Gemini and finally the next one was at March 22nd 1865 at 25 degrees of Gemini so those the four conjunctions were going to be looking at and one of those was a Mars retrograde in Gemini right yeah the last one the last one in 1865 prior to the conjunction yeah those are Mars retrograde okay so it doesn't end up being a exact triple conjunction which will see happen in World War II but it does end up being this this really extended co-presence between Mars and Uranus and Gemini and a conjunction by sign yeah from like late August 1865 for to late March 1865 a full seven months of Mars and Uranus being co-present in Gemini because of the Mars retrograde transit got it okay.
And the only other detail during this is the eclipses were taking place in Gemini South note eclipses in 1861 1862 and 1863 right correct yeah all right so that was amplifying things all right why don't we get right into it then with some some precursor events that led up to the Civil War while the Mars Uranus conjunctions were taking place in the previous sign which is Taurus and the first one that you found happened in June of 1851 under Mars Uranus conjunction in Taurus and that was the publication of the book Uncle Tom's cabin right yeah Harriet Beecher Stowe wrote this book Uncle Tom's cabin she I think she was from Ohio which was a free state but it was on the border with Kentucky and so she would sometimes go over to Kentucky and see you know house slavery operated down there and she wrote this this novel that was yeah intended to sort of really in part the realities of slavery and and present some of the challenges to a white reading audience.
And the story really galvanized public opinion and really stirred up that the abolitionist movement got a lot more people on board for you know advancing the idea that slavery was inhumane and incompatible with a free society. Okay so this is really important turning point in terms of just its portrayal of like the brutality of slavery and putting more of an emotional immediacy on the abolitionist movement which then starts picking up steam and eventually is what leads into the civil war and becomes the primary conflict of the civil war in terms of you know slavery basically. Yeah Abraham Lincoln would eventually meet Harriet Beecher Stowe 1863 I think and he would say to her oh you're the little woman who wrote the little book that started this big war I think is his quote something to that effect but yeah even even Lincoln wanted to kind of blame the war on her jokingly in his way but there's something to be said for it.
Okay so that's an example of that but it's like foreshadowing these are still Mars Uranus conjunctions in Taurus but it's obviously like foreshadowing the conflict that would be at the heart of the civil war over slavery and you know like obviously like I know there's going to be some people watching they're going to be like no it was about states rights and there's still this stupid argument that sometimes takes place in the US but then I look at some of the secession documents on some of the states that attempted to secede and it was obvious that slavery was the thing that they were like concerned that they wanted to retain as part of their states rights and that was obviously the focal point of the entire conflict like building up to the civil war like in events like this.
Yeah I mean it's you know the most of the southern states when they seceded cited the the threat to the institution of slavery as being one of the main reasons that they were seceding so I mean it's usually confederate sympathizing people who will make that argument about states rights but from the point of view of the confederacy it was absolutely about slavery. What those people could say is they could say well some of the people who fought for the union weren't fighting to fight slavery but just were fighting to keep the country together and that's certainly true of some of the people who fought for the union but it's not true with regard to why the war broke out, why the why the south seceded and the reasons that they gave.
Right. Yeah I mean you do get these little you know pockets in the south that that did have union sympathy or or that made you know little pockets that maybe did like Virginia voted against the session the first time around but then after votes for its impter they had a second vote and they voted to join the confederacy and so Virginians will say well Virginians didn't vote you know to join the confederacy for slavery they joined because of for its impter. Yeah okay but they voted to join after for its impter because they were joining up with people who had left to preserve slavery so there's still like an attachment to the cause of slavery even from people who might try to you know make some legitimate argument about their own personal motivations in this regard but yeah it's a big smokescreen largely you know.
Right. Yeah and I think that becomes clear when we get to our next conjunction which is really interesting that I found in May of 1859 which was the Vicksburg commercial convention and in this event Southern leaders and some commercial interests got together in Vicksburg Mississippi for a convention that voted to advocate for the reopening of the African slave trade and I thought this is so striking when I came across this as I was like just going through the conjunctions and seeing what major events were happening because at the time the proposal was indirect violation of federal law which had banned the slave trade in the year 1808 so like 50 years earlier it had been outlawed and they were trying to bring bring it back basically under this Mars Uranus conjunction which was um are we in Gemini at this point?
Yeah we are in Gemini at this point. Yeah okay so this is the very first so the other ones were precursors but this is the very first Mars Uranus conjunction in Gemini after Uranus is moved into Gemini and so you know it's getting really serious in terms of the whole issue coming obviously we're coming to a head in the United States and with some of the in this instance the Southern states literally trying to like reopen the slave trade in this instance right on Mars Uranus conjunction?
Yeah I mean this would have been very tricky and probably why it didn't work because because Britain was you know shutting down the slave trade on the open seas so if they had tried to reopen the slave trade they would have been running up against British warships all the time and in fact I mean that you know Britain was at one point you know contemplating joining in the battle on the side of the Confederates because the you know the Southern states grew cotton and the British industrial machine needed that cotton but when Lincoln announced the the the emancipation proclamation that he would do it after Antietam after the Battle of Antietam it was a sort of signal to England that you know that if England came in on the side of the Confederacy they would be fighting for the slavery cause and not merely to open up the cotton markets and and so Britain didn't join in.
Britain at that point like up until Antietam Britain could have wound up joining the Confederacy not unlike the way France joined the colonists during the Revolutionary War and then the Union would have had a really formidable European opponent rather than just you know the rabble down south so to speak so with that in mind yeah you know I it never would have it was kind of it was a you know the morality of the slavery notwithstanding it was a fool's errand because this would have put them right in the path of the British anyway. Right because I actually found in other research there was the war the other war with the British the War of 1812 and on a Mars Uranus conjunction around January of 1813 the exact day of the conjunction the US forces were defeated and mass occurred by the British Native American allies and it was the deadliest battle for Americans in the War of 1812 right on this conjunction at 27 degrees of Scorpio January 22nd 1813 so you mentioning like the potential for the British that they could have gotten involved during the Civil War on the side of the Southern states the threat of that obviously from the point of view of the Northern states they could think back to the War of 1812 which had just happened a few decades earlier.
Yeah it went to bin out of the question for a word of breakout at this point I mean soon after the Civil War Britain and the US do sort of enter into a more yeah peaceful the peaceful partnership that has been in place for most of the history since recent times notwithstanding but yeah during the Civil War like that you know it was still a contentious relationship it was still stressful and for that matter you know Montreal was a major center in the Civil War the Confederacy had spies in Montreal who would meet up when John Wilkes Booth was eventually you know shot when he was on the run for killing Lincoln they found in his pocket a ticket from the the St. James Hotel in Montreal where he'd been staying a few months earlier and and so like even there oh and for that matter union and Confederate businessmen were meeting in Montreal for the cotton trade even though their respective sides were at war there were union and Confederate businessmen doing cotton business on the side despite the war and they were doing it in Montreal to be outside the the peer view of you know they're their citizens so yeah there's still all that involvement hanging around the Civil War that that has always has the threat of foreign involvement.
The France at this time at this exact time is fighting in Mexico to take over Mexico the whole Cinco de Mayo festival is based on you know celebrates a battle that the Mexican beat the French in 1862 so that the Civil War is existing under this whole international gaze you know and and things could have gone differently right and then to provide another piece of context for this one I found an earlier precursor event that is like the flip side of the coin which is the 1811 sleeve revolt which began on January 8 1811 was right on a Mars Uranus conjunction in Scorpio and it was the largest slave revolt in US history which occurred in in Louisiana at the time it's sometimes called the German coast uprising but it was like this this violent sudden insurrection but then that was brutally brutally suppressed and so we're seeing on these Mars Uranus conjunctions sometimes both sides of that coin which is like the brutality of slavery and the oppression of people in the taking away of freedoms let's say Mars as the taking away of something and Uranus representing freedom and liberation but then other times we're seeing a return to reckoning with that during the course of the country and sometimes the push for freedom and the attempt to achieve freedom through and liberation through taking action through force and sometimes through military or violent actions.
Yeah yeah exactly yeah yeah that one was in Scorpio it was yeah over 500 slaves it was brutal it was huge it was huge okay so then the flip side of that so that's back in 1811 versus here we have you know this convention Vicksburg and under a subsequent conjunction in Gemini in 1859 right at the start of the Uranus and Gemini period where they're literally like trying to bring back the slave trade after it being outlawed in 1808 so that sets again more of the context but it also shows that there was like a it signaled the willingness among southern radicals to break with federal authority which I think is the other thing that was really symbolically important about this conjunction in that event that they were willing to that it represented like a significant escalation in the sectionalism and the process slavery sentiment by advocating the reopening of the slave trade.
Yeah sure I mean there had been you know going back to the late 1820s early 1830s at one point South Carolina going against Andrew Jackson had made noises towards you know succession but yeah this is this is a this is more of a unified movement not merely you know South Carolina acting on its own.
Yeah well the other part of this meeting that was important is that they were actively in the meeting on this conjunction promoting the idea that there should be a succession if a Republican won the presidency in 1860 so that this actually acted as a precursor for the civil war by highlighting some of the southern economic and political grievances that were beyond just trade even though obviously like a lot of the commercial grievances were just to cover for sort of radical pro slavery politics.
Yeah yeah absolutely yeah yeah and that ends up being once we jump forward two years ends up being what happens is that Lincoln wins the presidential election in 1860 which is the southern pro slavery states like worst case scenario and then the civil war begins very early in his presidency literally on the next Mars Uranus conjunction which is our most important Mars Uranus conjunction of this entire series because it turns out that the civil war begins with Fort Sumter April 12 1861 and this is right next to a Mars Uranus conjunction in Gemini right.
Yeah absolutely yeah and this is this is the proper beginning of the fighting the Confederates launching attack on a on a fort in the Charleston Harbor Fort Sumter where the union is and there's there's a shelling overnight and by the next day the union surrenders the fort and the the war is officially begun so that yeah and Mars Uranus are now co-present so even though the first Mars Uranus co-presence in Gemini did not involve the war the the following three did and it to start right at the beginning with Fort Sumter the very beginning of the fighting is Mars Uranus.
Yeah that's incredible and take a look at the chart so here's a chart just roughly speaking for that day and I'm always so like shocked by this how close the alignment is so this is set for April 12 1861 when Fort Sumter's first attacked right and Mars is at six degrees of Gemini and Uranus is at nine degrees of Gemini so they're within three degrees and that conjunction is still building up to go exact and what happens is the attack for its Sumter for its Sumter falls and then Lincoln in the next few days like immediately starts calling up the troops basically and starts gathering forces and gathering an army and then the the civil war is on like shortly after that.
Yeah exactly and that's really when when it's gonna blow up and and then on the 17th the day of the exact conjunction is when Virginia does succeed like I mentioned they had voted earlier against the session but now because of Fort Sumter they hold the second vote I believe it's a mercury retrograde thing and involved in in there somewhere as I recall going back and maybe the first vote was or something but this is also important.
So the exact conjunction happens when Virginia succeeds and this is important relative to the war because when Virginia succeeds that is when Robert E. Lee decides he's gonna fight for the Confederacy because Robert E. Lee is not loyal to the United States he's loyal to Virginia so he's he's said to himself he's agreed to himself that he'll go with wherever Virginia goes so when and he wasn't personally in favor of succession but when Virginia ultimately did vote for succession on the second vote that decides it for him Lincoln actually wants Lee to come fight you know for the Union and Lee is considering it until Virginia succeeds and then he knows well now he's gonna fight for the Confederacy because he's loyal to Virginia and Robert E. Lee although he's ultimately going to be on the losing side as a formidable opponent for for the Union to have.
Right and this is really symbolically important than Virginia's succeeding April 17th 1861 literally the day of the Mars Uranus conjunction in Gemini and then as we'll see later at the end of the war like Robert E. Lee is the most important general of the South and it's his his his giving up in his surrender his famous surrender at the courthouse that ends up coinciding with another Mars Uranus conjunction at the very end of the war that brings it to a close yeah it's funny it's true he he joins the war at the Mars Uranus and then he leaves it at the Mars Uranus yeah so that's incredible but Virginia's succeeding the exact day of the conjunction and for someter happening and Lincoln's call to arms happening all that week is just one of those examples like we say that sometimes when these Mars Uranus conjunctions happen especially in Gemini like everything starts happening at once a ton of really important pivotal events start taking place all in a relatively short span of time yeah no that's a good point that's exactly what's happening during this particular time a whole sort of snowball effect like what we were describing earlier totally.
Okay so let's jump forward two years to the next Mars Uranus conjunction that's happening around April of 1863 when the Enrollment Act is enforced right yeah this is the first military conscription act in US history and the war has passed a little before the co-presence on March 3rd but the co-presence starts not long after that and when the act goes into enforcement on the 1st of April 1863 the co-presences in place and yeah I mean this is an American military draft a subject that has you know come in and out come in and out of the nation's history over the years was certainly a bone of contention as recently as the Vietnam War but and it would get a lot of pushback some you know some men would really resent being forced to fight for a war that they didn't want to participate in particularly new immigrant men you know fresh off the boat looking for a new life in the new world and suddenly they're being you know sent off to fight a war that they know very little about so yeah this comes into effect that's crazy so it's the first wartime draft in US history is starts being enforced right on a Mars Uranus conjunction I think that's incredibly striking yeah I agree.
All right so this sort of alters the relationship between the public and the state in ways that as you said would have lingering effects like most famously during like the Vietnam War and some of the protests against the the draft that happened then but in the immediate aftermath of this conjunction it also triggered widespread social unrest and riots across the North right oh yeah yeah some people really did not want to go yeah okay got it so that's another important thing is like social unrest sometimes in riots happening around the times of these Mars Uranus conjunctions yeah yeah public rage.
Yeah so at the same time just days later we have the first battle of Charleston Harbor that takes place on April 7 1863 right on the exact conjunction of Mars Uranus and Gemini yeah and this is I mean this is picking up from where Fort Sumter had left off two years earlier but now it's a full on the you know naval battle with these iron clads these new warship steel warships of of the industrial revolution fighting it out and of course this is Charleston Harbor where we were just talking about how during the revolutionary war there was this the siege of Charleston where the British were you know subjected them to a total surrender so this doesn't quite go the way that did but but yeah the the iron clads were a formidable new sort of fleet but the confederate forts were able to beat them off in this instance.
Yeah and what was important about this one to me is that these these nine iron clad warships was it was a it was a new technology and it was employing a new technology as a test as like a new form of naval warfare at this time so I thought that was striking because Uranus can also represent technology and Mars can represent you know the military or warfare so sometimes when you put them together you see the unveiling or the application of new forms of technology for war which again we will see the ultimate culmination of in the best example yet many Mars Uranus conjunctions later at the end of World War 2 when the atomic bomb is suddenly unveiled and used in war for the first time ever twice on Hiroshima and Nagasaki on a Mars Uranus conjunction but I believe in this conjunction we can see an earlier version of that where you have the US trying out a new military technology right on a Mars Uranus conjunction exactly on April 7th of 1863.
Yeah I mean there was a lot about the Civil War that was kind of cutting edge with regards to warfare there had been the Crimean War about five years earlier in the mid 1850s England and France were at war with Russia in order to protect them Turkey from from Russian advancement and and some things about like for instance the Crimean War was widely photographed just like the Civil War would be but the Civil War was starting to lean towards how warfare would go in the 20th century so Europe would really have a taste of what Americans were experiencing in the Civil War when the first World War happened you know trench warfare machine guns are now you know a thing so it's during the revolutionary war they were still fighting with those guns you know yet to you shot them and you'd have to load the gun and all that so now in the in the Civil War you know yeah you have things like guns that can fire repeatedly and what have you not the machine guns that we think of in the 20th century but things that that are you can now fire concurrently right even even the in the revolutionary war there was the evolution the unveiling of soon new technology like I was reading about yesterday the turtle submarine was the first man submersible that was used in combat back in 1775 and 1776 during the revolutionary war so it's like you have the unveiling again of like new military technologies sometimes during these especially the Uranus and Gemini periods and that's something we see in all three so that's something of course then we can anticipate in the upcoming time period is the unveiling of new like military technologies yeah absolutely.
These these ironclad ships that that fought in the Civil War I mean these are really early prototype warships that we think of you know very commonly in the 20th century that were used commonly but you know not long before boats was still made of wood so this is a real sort of new new technology indeed yeah and it doesn't always work out that's the funny thing is like the turtle submarine didn't work out like it kind of failed it was going to attempt to set like explosives underwater but it didn't work and malfunctioned and it's interesting that in this instance the the ironclad warships didn't work either they ended up being defeated by cons by the heavy guns of the Confederate forts so sometimes it can be like the unveiling of new fledgling technologies but sometimes there can be malfunctions or things that don't go right with those technologies initially as they're still in the very early stages yeah sure I mean eventually the ironclads were were formidable but I mean there was tests like these that showed the military were the weakness and the technology wasn't what needed to be improved.
Got it okay all right so that the conjunction 1863 then we we move forward to September through December of 1864 which is Sherman taking Atlanta and the march to the sea right yeah and this is this is where the Mars retrograde is going to come into play this is that whole seven month period when Mars and Uranus are co-present because of the Mars retrograde and a lot happens at once but indeed I mean we can basically start by saying that Union troops enter Atlanta I think September 2nd so a few days after Mars has made its initial Gemini ingress and they're in Atlanta and then once the election happens on November 9th Lincoln is reelected president November 9th so two months later Sherman after that begins his march to the sea and it just like he's burning down everything headed towards Savannah and he reaches Savannah at Christmas and gives Lincoln Savannah for Christmas is remark so Savannah is the Christmas present so yeah starting off in September in Atlanta and winding up by Christmas in Savannah and having just obliterated everything in sight in Georgia between the two is what Sherman's been doing this total war as he calls it something that would become a lot more common in the 20th century but I mean really really I mean you know you're talking about the atomic bomb I mean obviously Sherman doesn't have an atomic bomb but what he does to Atlanta and Savannah is quite thorough you know and quite devastating and and as close as you could come to that sort of nuclear level of devastation.
Got it okay so just like widespread devastation as being you know one of our keywords for these Mars Uranus conjunctions where like I said sometimes it's like Mars already is like war and killing and death and sometimes it just seems like Uranus amplifies and magnifies it especially in instances like this when Mars also goes retrograde in that sign and what are the retrograde dates that we're looking at for that or what's the complete almost like time period yeah Mars Mars goes retrograde oops just lost my thing here I've got it it's it's October 23rd 1864 through January 5th 1865 so that's the most intense point but then what that ends up doing is it extends the co-presence between Mars and Uranus all the way from August 25th of 1864 through March 30th of 1865 and we're kind of bearing the lead actually because the the event that happened right before that that was was pivotal it was absolutely critical is that Abraham Lincoln is reelected president on November 9th 1864 and this is Mars Uranus conjunction in Gemini as Mars is like you know in that retrograde around the time of that retrograde and this was a pivotal election basically because if Lincoln had lost this re-election then the war would have been over and the southern states could have pulled ahead basically they could have won the war but because Lincoln wins it allows the north to basically like bring the the war to its ultimate conclusion.
Yeah yeah no that's absolutely true and it's thanks in part to or had largely thanks to Sherman's triumph in Georgia that really gives Lincoln the edge to win the election that and also for the first time they they let American soldiers vote in the field and I think something like 70% of the military vote for Lincoln as well so that helps his case quite a bit interestingly Lincoln was born about 17 days before a Mars retrograde station himself so the fact that he gets reelected during a Mars retrograde is kind of fitting with you know the the cycles of his own chart.
but this really was again talk about the the acceleration of Mars Uranus about how a lot of things can happen at once the the Georgia you know Sherman in Georgia is certainly a big part of it and like we were saying really spans a good deal of that that whole co-presence in in his devastation of Georgia and then moving up to South Carolina to do the same but there there are other things like let me show his chart real quick just for the the re-election just so people can like see visually like how striking this is with the retrograde so this is November 9th 1864 and we see Mars is retrograde at 16 degrees of Gemini and Uranus is at 28 degrees of Gemini also retrograde so we're talking about like a super intense fiery Mars at this point and then Lincoln has re-elected at this time which is kind of interesting then and taking it into the final phase of the civil war but then also his second presidency which he of course would not complete.
yeah yeah exactly it's it's a very striking election chart there was a lot at stake and the guy he was running against his opponent was George McClellan who had been a union general with a lot of promise who Lincoln had ultimately fired from command for being you know not proactive enough so there was it was something of a grudge election as well so it was a good thing Lincoln won is you know on on those grounds was was McClellan the one that was fired for being like incompetent and like losing and retreating a bunch for for not pursuing the enemy after an initial victory like he could he could win a victory but he went like pursue the enemy to make sure they were you know shut down and and went rise up again so Lincoln Lincoln got upset that he he would completely repeatedly failed to sort of follow through with whatever gains he would make.
um got it got it okay so and then um this period because the Mars Retrograde in Gemini gets extended into early the next year in 1865 brings us to another of the most important events ever in US history that happens to coincide with the Mars Uranus co-presence and conjunction is on January 31st 1865 the House passed the 13th Amendment which was the amendment that officially abolished slavery in the United States Lincoln's reelected the Senate had already passed the measure but this was the critical turning point was getting it through the House and when the House passed it and then like the day later Lincoln signaled his willingness to sign it this was the crucial turning point where the abolitionists had finally won and uh slavery was finally going to be officially outlawed so this is a really crucial turning point in January of 1865 um when functionally uh yeah slavery would would become abolished and it did have to be then passed on to the states to ratify after this which they would do over the course of the next year but this was a really critical turning point was happening during the later stages of the Civil War.
okay okay yeah um there were a few other things that there there are a few sort of important strains happening during the Mars Retrograde even in 1864 that are quite notorious um on September 27th 1864 in um in Missouri there was this thing called the Centrelia massacre a bloody bill Anderson led a gang of sort of Confederate outlaws including Jesse James and his brother this is sort of the forming their crime gang but yeah they massacred unarmed Union soldiers um who were on leave after Gettysburg and that scene is uh an important part of like the you know the the war on the western theater and uh and of course the the burgeoning legend of Jesse James.
on October 19th 1864 the northernmost conflict was fought in the form of uh bank robbery and a raid on the town of St. Albans Vermont uh where which I've driven through a few times um of course these Confederate raiders came down from Montreal to launch this attack on Vermont um and yeah there there were just there there is also um the things are starting to get very ugly in the west um with um uh plains Indians um because um because of the Civil War there are fewer American troops in the you know out in the prairies and at this time and so um uprisings and and conflict with Amerindians start growing and um there was one massacre I think it's the largest execution in American history in 1862 of a lot of Indians in Minnesota but then in 1864 in November 29th there's something called the San Creek massacre where um 700 Colorado Territory militia troops attack a rapaho um yeah a rapaho and and shayan a settlement of of them and killing well over a hundred including women and children and that's the sort of the the the Indians wars on the planes are really sort of building up as the Civil War is also at its peak and the the San Creek massacre um is is a big part of that of of this sort of growing mounting military tension that's going to extend itself through the rest of the the century okay yeah so another major instance of like a massacre taking place under a Mars Uranus conjunction as like a recurring theme um I want to go back to the 13th Amendment though because I think this is one of the most important events in US history and I don't want to bury the lead on this since it's been a recurring theme that we've seen since the foundation of the country with the institution of slavery and then the the back and forth tensions that we saw during like the 1811 slave revolt for example of a group of slaves attempting to to revolt and gain their freedom and then we saw in the first Mars Uranus conjunction at the beginning of the Civil War with um that group of southern states or business interests that were trying to bring back the institution of slavery officially in the slave trade um but then here we have the US government functionally abolishing the practice of slavery on a Mars Uranus conjunction in early 1865 and that's a that's a really critical and important turning point but it also shows that the Mars Uranus conjunctions can have positive results sometimes through empowering the Uranian function of that that urge for freedom and liberation.
yeah absolutely absolutely I mean it is um ultimately what the war is being fought for so that there is a tremendous victory in that um yeah there's just there's so much New York City was set on fire in November um some of the hugest largest battles occurred during this Mars retrograde there was really a lot in in this whole period along with that that uh i was happening all at once and things were happening very quickly yeah yeah and we can't cover all of them but i definitely want to cover the ones in our top list here so one of them that was a little obscure that i thought but i thought was incredibly interesting was Lincoln his second inauguration took place on March 4th 1865 and it turns out that John Wilkes Booth the man who would later assassinate Lincoln attended the second inauguration and he wrote in his diary that day which again this is under at Mars Uranus conjunction Mars was at 17 degrees of Gemini and Uranus was at 25 degrees of Gemini John Wilkes Booth wrote in his diary that day quote what an excellent chance I had if I wished to kill the president on inauguration day exclamation mark end to quote so on a Mars Uranus conjunction on inauguration we have this weird foreshadowing of Lincoln's later assassin who would assassinate him later that year um being in attendance and even like thinking about like premeditating the assassination that day as the conjunction is literally like forming in the sky in Gemini at that time.
yeah it's it's astonishing and he was like a he was like an actor right yeah he was a very well known actor from a family of well-known actors it's kind of like you know imagine of Timothy Shalameh assassinated Donald Trump or something you know it's kind of like on that level right yeah he was very famous okay so that that gives some context that's really important so other things that were happening though is early in 1865 again while Mars is still in there with Uranus and Gemini because there's this very slow extended Mars Uranus co-presence we have Wilson's raid which was the largest cavalry raid of the civil war and I noted this because I kept seeing a bunch of instances throughout US history near the Mars Uranus conjunctions of the largest X of something during the course of a war or during the course of a conflict and a lot of those really stood out to me of like largest cavalry raid largest you know what was it like like casualties in in the war largest battle or other things like that.
yeah yeah battle of Franklin battle of Nashville really big sort of devastating battles it's true it was um that we've seen a number of these things from the first introduction of a new and technology to the battlefield to just sort of things being you know more so more more dead bodies more more soldiers on the field uh yeah like you were saying the largest the largest that yeah yeah so um with Wilson's raid a union force of 13,000 troops swept through Alabama and Georgia and just destroyed basically the remaining Confederate industrial infrastructure and supply lines which effectively ended the solosibility to sustain the war and this is in the March April time frame and then this basically brings us to um there was this series of battles that Robert Lee was fighting basically in March and early April that he failed and and where the North won a series of successive battles and then eventually it led to the most important general of the southern states' property Lee um surrendering basically and this is often used as like the ending date of the civil war on April 9th 1865 um which is interesting because it's just after the conjunction.
uh but Mars Mars is just barely moved into cancer and it's still within a degree-based conjunction of Uranus and late Gemini where Mars on this day April 9th 1865 where Robert Lee surrenders at the courthouse um Mars is at four or five degrees of cancer and it's still conjoining Uranus within 10 degrees at 26 degrees of Gemini so that functionally when the civil war ends in this critical symbolic moment Mars and Uranus are conjoined in the sky just as they had been conjoined at the very beginning of the civil war with the battle of Fort Sumter yeah excellent point um they are still very close together even though they're no longer uh co-present in a sign they're certainly conjunct by proximity.
yeah and what was interesting is as the conjunctions were going exact in the in the weeks leading up to this it seems to be all about this um these weeks of like union advances and Lee desperately like trying stuff like on March 25th the battle of Fort Stedman he tries to break break out but he fails and then um April 1st grant cuts Lee's supply lines at the battle of five forks and then April 2nd Lee abandons Richmond and has to run and that was like a huge symbolic thing of abandoning Richmond Virginia's home state and then finally April 6th grant catches the running army at the battle of sailors Creek and then finally April 7th grant sends the first letter basically that opens up the communication about surrender which eventually culminates on April 9th with um with Lee officially surrendering at the courthouse at uh api apomattox.
是的,有趣的是,在这段时间里,随着各种情况逐步达到高潮,我们可以看到几场重要战役的发展。在这几周里,联盟军队不断推进,而李(Lee)则拼命尝试各种策略。例如,在3月25日,李在圣特德曼堡战役(Fort Stedman)中试图突围,但未能成功。接着在4月1日,格兰特(Grant)在五岔口战役(Battle of Five Forks)中切断了李的补给线。到4月2日,李被迫放弃了弗吉尼亚州的首府里士满,这象征性的一幕对李方来说是一次重大打击。最终,在4月6日,格兰特在塞勒斯溪战役(Battle of Sailor's Creek)中成功追击到李的逃亡军队。随后,在4月7日,格兰特首次发出关于投降的信函,开始了双方关于投降的谈判,这一切最终在4月9日于阿波马托克斯法院(Appomattox Court House)达成协议,李正式投降。
yeah uh funny funny story about api apomattox the courthouse um there's a man i forget his name but he had been living in manassas um one of the first battles apart from fort sumpter to be fought was the first battle of bull run uh the first battle of manassas and it happened in this man's like front yard or whatever and uh and he was like okay i'm i'm done living on battlefields i'm going to move more into the interior and he moves to api apomattox and and he lives like adjacent to the courthouse where the the piece is signed so it's really funny the story of this man who you know he he had the battlefield then he moved and then uh the the war ends and is in his den or whatever.
有一个有趣的故事,是关于阿波马托克斯法院(Appomattox Court House)的。有个男人,我忘了他的名字,他原本住在马纳萨斯(Manassas)。在苏姆特堡(Fort Sumter)之后的首次战役之一就是第一次布尔朗战役(Battle of Bull Run),也叫第一次马纳萨斯战役(Battle of Manassas),这场战役就在他家前院打响。他觉得不能再生活在战场上了,于是决定搬到内陆的地方。他搬到了阿波马托克斯,还住在了离签署和平协议的法院很近的地方。这就让人觉得很好笑,因为他本想远离战争,结果战争在他院子里结束了。
um the the other funny thing about the evacuation of Richmond um is I know that link and went to Richmond very soon after it was evacuated and he sat in Jefferson Davis's you know confederate president's uh official chair uh less than 24 hours after Davis had been sitting in it so there's quite a funny turnover in that way um okay so let me show the chart for this for the surrender of Lee at the courthouse that day and and you know sort of the symbolic ending of the civil war at that time because there was some residual stuff but this is a really important turning point and you can see what. I was just describing for those watching the video version of you know Mars at five degrees of Gemini and Uranus at 26 degrees of Gemini just coming off of that conjunction but also coming off of that extended co-presence that took place over many many months because of the Mars retrograde in Gemini that had occurred um if I animate the chart I'll back it up and you'll see here in the fall like by like September August September of 1864 so this is in the lead up to the US presidential election that takes place in November and and Lincoln's reelected.
You see Mars moving into Gemini and then slowing down and getting ready to station retrograde which it eventually does in late October in October just before the election itself and then you have Mars retrograding like all the way back over the course of December all the way into January when eventually Mars stations direct at one degree of Gemini in early January 1865 and then Mars because it's so slow coming out of retrograde it just stays in that sign as it's slowly moving forward again through January through February through March and then we start seeing some of these culminating battles of the civil war and use some of those desperate moves by Lee to like you know keep things together happening and we see the exact conjunction going exact around March 21st and 22nd as that's happening and he's in this desperate situation and then eventually April 6th we see the final or April 9th we see the final surrender.
So even though you know Mars is in Cancer and Uranus is in late Gemini if you looked out in the sky like you would be able to see you could see Mars it's a little hard to see Uranus you can sometimes under certain conditions but if you have like binoculars or something you can see it they would just be right together in the sky just like they were at the start of the civil war at Fort Sumter and when Lincoln started calling up troops and when Virginia secedes and remember Virginia was Robert E. Lee's home state there's a reason that he's in the civil war because Virginia secedes but also it's a recurrence of the Mars Uranus conjunction going right back to the declaration of independence it was happening at the sky then and when the US constitution was set up and was first signed basically was a Mars Uranus conjunction and then we of course it's just absolutely crazy to me that we're seeing a Mars Uranus conjunction again at the very end of the civil war.
Yeah it's it's pretty wild and of course even like Lincoln's going to be shot a week after this and Mars is still you know within about 11 degrees of Uranus when he's killed and the war is more or less over the day it was like killed again April 16th I think shot on the 16th died on the 17th is that right no sorry shot on the 14th died on the 15th I knew it was close so Mars is just 11 degrees away from Uranus at this point Uranus was at 26 and Mars was at seven Cancer it's still like degree based like not that far from from Uranus so we're almost like functionally talking about another Mars Uranus conjunction but this time it was during a successful assassination attempt and and one of the most successful ones on a president in US history.
Yeah yeah the first one oh it was the first one okay so it's like a well not an entire precedent in terms of that was a successful one but we had the attempt we saw previously on like Washington's life during the 1776 one yeah and there was an attempt on Jackson at one point but this is the first successful murder of a president yeah got it okay um so that's that's pretty crazy um yeah so that's that's the civil war ending and that's our last data point because that's just a really good book book and basically to the the bloodiest war in US history and um I'm just gonna put the graphic up again one more time for this just so you can see it retrospect because I just think it's I'm still just like absolutely stunned at how well it lines up and it's one of the reasons I wanted to do this episode is just like here's the here's the conjunction for those watching the video version and the first Mars Uranus conjunction is you know that um that meeting in the south where they're trying to like get the slave trade going again then you have the second conjunction in 1861 the first one was in 1859 the second one's in 1861 the 1861 is the start of the civil war in Fort Sumter and then um you.
have this intense period in the middle of the middle conjunction of 1863 and then finally you have the fourth conjunction and the final conjunction in 1865 which marks the end of the civil war yeah stunning stunning okay all right um well that's incredible anything any final words on the civil war any um things worth mentioning before we wrap up this section about the civil war
I mean I mean what made that one super uD obviously was that retrograde that occurred towards the end yeah that retrograde and there's it's such a busy retrograde wait you know it was impossible to do it justice under time constraints um but because there is just so much going on there um it's it's the great example of how mars urenus can just make everything happen at once it seems or or at coincides with periods where everything seems to be happening at once
Um so uh yeah that's the part that really blows me away um and yeah just the the the way that the war sort of begins and ends ultimately on conjunctions it's also quite astonishing yeah absolutely and the eclipses during this period it were in jemen i conjoined the south node and this was it looks like 1861 1862 and 1863 in terms of those eclipses right yeah yeah which is is really the period when the Confederacy is is working to identify itself you know um japherson davis is elected president he's a jemen i son juranus is conjunct his son when he's elected president of the confederacy um and and yeah you know during that period 1861 to 1863 the confederate army is is doing pretty well thanks to robberty lee and linkin is still struggling to find you know the general he can really use to win the war eventually he finds grant um but he's you know he and he's linkin is teaching himself how to you know fight war in the library by reading books which which is quite uh you know amazing something trotsky would also do later um but yeah it's it's a period when things are still sort of shaping up and the final outcome is by no means guaranteed.
Okay nice so um yeah and it's interesting that the the eclipses start basically in 1861 and December later in the same year that the the war breaks out earlier in that year on the maras urenus conjunction and it seems like that period from these two conjunctions of like the 1861 conjunction through the 1863 conjunction is which also happens to encapsulate the period when the eclipses are taking place is kind of like the period in which the war could have gone either way in like the south korea one one the war basically right absolutely absolutely.
Okay i mean the yeah i mean the the the south always had a smaller population a smaller uh military and less money so in that sense they were the underdog um which what you know i know sometimes people say you shouldn't call them the underdog you're supposed to sympathize with underdogs but you don't always sympathize with the underdog um but uh um yeah you know they but that being said because they had they had Robert E Lee and because um um some some you know aggressive early fighting they they did very well um until until they were overwhelmed so i think it's just important in terms of identifying through the means that we can and seeing if some of those means ends up being applicable to other periods just when the most important stuff starts because i think it's interesting that we get like eclipse 1861 another one 1862 another one 1863 so the eclipses are happening there in between those conjunctions and then late in the process in the war we get like the Mars retrograde which ends up being a big glooming extending thing over here in 1864 1865 and so that basically the eclipses the Mars retrograde and the Mars Uranus conjunctions then functionally end up being the things that bookmark the the start of the civil war and like the end of the civil war um yeah up here at this point i think that's important because then you know Uranus went into Gemini back here so there was this gap basically before Uranus first started going into Gemini back in like 1858 versus when the civil war actually began in 1861 and the question of like you know why that is i'm going to draw a very poor version of a question mark here question mark of like why that why do we have a gap there between the ingress versus when the war actually starts and part of the answer from a technical standpoint that you can kind of see then perhaps is it's those eclipses that really end up being pivotal on top of the Mars Uranus conjunctions and on also the Mars retrograde that make this period really unique and push the war to not start until later in the the Uranus and Gemini period.
Yeah maybe although when we get to the second world war we'll see the eclipses happen after the war um more than during it um well that's what's crazy about that is what's crazy about the the next one is that in world war two it's like Uranus going into in Gemini basically very closely coincides with the us getting involved in world war two which had already been going for like a few years at that point in in Europe and in in Asia but that's one of the things that's most striking about that Uranus and Gemini period is just like Uranus and Gemini like us immediately involved in the war and it signals the us getting engaged in the world war at that point um so i'm just trying to figure out what the lessons are that we can learn as pointers from like each of these time periods right i i will point out when when Uranus makes that first ingress in June of 1858 that that coincides very neatly with the link in Douglas debates which are the things that put Lincoln on the national stage because Stephen Douglas is already a far more far better known politician.
So by engaging in the debates for this senate campaign Davis's celebrity ironically helps raise Lincoln status by being his debate opponent. um so even though Lincoln loses that election he he suddenly has this national name from those debates um funny enough um Stephen Davis had once courted uh uh Lincoln's wife Mary Todd Lincoln before they were married so there's also a debate between these two guys had both been in love with the same woman um but um there is something to that you know there is something to like the like Lincoln entering the world stage when Uranus enters Gemini um and that to some degree in some way uh the war is starting there and then because he's now um this this lightning rod for the south to look at and say okay this this abolitionist guy is going to you know come for our property and uh we don't want it and right well and that's one of the things that was important about those debates is that the Lincoln Douglas debates were largely about slavery and so that sets a lot of the context then for the civil war but also for um like the south's trepidation going into that time period of starting to say if this guy's elected like we're gonna secede because he's gonna try to abolish slavery basically and that entire tension which was like the the fuse box or the tinder box that set things up um for the war just before the civil war.
Yeah and ironically Lincoln wasn't looking to take their slaves away when he was elected he was just looking to uh limit slavery from being expanded um you know he he said that all long during the campaign but um well you and I have famously argued about this because I don't think I don't think that's true I don't think that's true I think he always intended to do it and I think what he said publicly about his intentions is different than what a politician actually intends to do privately and we saw similar things with I've always pointed out to you with Obama for example were on paper like Obama was against gay marriage during the first presidential election but then by the time of his second um you know presidential term he'd suddenly had a change of heart supposedly and now he was pro he was openly pro gay marriage because it had become politically um right okay enough to to take that position publicly finally in u.s. history and in terms of public opinion.
But I don't I don't believe that Obama was actually like against gay marriage four years earlier and then he suddenly like was I think it's just a matter of like what a politician can say as a politician publicly versus like what they can't say at different points like changing depending on the weather of the mood of the nation fair enough except I mean historians have to go on you know documented history and less on on inference from from character although sometimes we do that um it's it's just you know um yeah you know Lincoln Lincoln in terms of anything we've seen him say or write um you know held that position and so that is what we have and anything else is an inference.
Well all of the Southern states that seceded immediately after he was elected would disagree with you and would say that they all believe that he fully intended to abolish slavery and then he did so I feel like that's I don't we don't we don't have to do we've no we've had this fair enough I mean you're right the South certainly thought he did and that is why they seceded that is absolutely true they didn't believe that he didn't want to um we can certainly agree on that and then he and then he did but then you're ultimately your point was like well he didn't say that he was going he said he wasn't going to do that or something he said very explicit he didn't campaign on it um and and he said repeatedly that you know and even once the war is going is even like um in August of 1862 he writes to Horus Greeley and says you know he would do anything to maintain the union if it meant uh you. know uh any anything like slavery wasn't the thing that was motivating him it was keeping the union together and there's a lot to suggest that that is you know his main concern overall yeah I'm sorry I don't I don't buy it okay I'm not buying it all right uh we can talk about we'll do a whole episode on that one of these days with maybe no doubt the comment section will get spicy but anyway yeah well maybe people more I'm sure there's historians that could go into more detail and argue both sides of that way more better than either of us can for sure um since people do entirely like PhDs on this topic but for now I think we'll leave that there and just say you know it's striking that the war became about slavery and was about slavery so much and that a lot of that does get encapsulated by Uranus and Gemini but also the Mars Uranus conjunctions and that tension we saw in those conjunctions of like the the fight for freedom and liberation versus the fight for attempting to keep people oppressed basically and into remove and and to take away and steal the freedom of other humans absolutely um yeah um ultimately that's the thing yeah all right I think that's good for for this section so let's take a little break the astrology software that we use on the astrology podcast is called solar fire for windows and you can get a 15% discount on the software by using the promo code AP 15 when you purchase it through aloeve.com for Mac users we recommend the program astrogold for macOS and you can also get a 15% discount when you use the promo code astropodcast15 at the website astrogold.io all right let's begin our third section in looking at the history of Uranus and Gemini and Mars Uranus conjunctions and Gemini by now looking at the period that spans the Uranus and Gemini transit from 1941 to 1949 which basically fully encompasses and starts with the US involvement in World War 2 and then goes into the first part essentially of the Cold War in the formation of the Cold War in the late 1940s and early 1950s.
好吧,所有在他当选后立刻脱离联邦的南方州肯定不会同意你的观点,他们会说他们都相信他完全打算废除奴隶制,然后他确实这样做了。我的感觉是,我们不需要继续这个话题,我们已经讨论过了。我是说,你说得对,南方确实认为他会废除,这也是他们脱离联邦的原因,这绝对是事实。他们不相信他不想废除奴隶制,我们对此可以达成共识。然后他确实这么做了,但你的观点是他并没有宣称会这么做,他明确表示在竞选中并没有承诺这一点。他多次表示,即便是在战争爆发后,1862年8月他写信给霍勒斯·格里利说他会做任何事情来维护联邦,即便这意味着奴隶制不是他的动机,他的主要关心是保持联邦的完整。我很抱歉,但我不相信这一点。好吧,我不买账。我们可以改天再专门做一期节目来讨论这个,评论区肯定会很热闹。不过,也许有更多的历史学家可以更详细地论证这个话题,而不是我们能做到的。毕竟有人专门为此写博士论文。不过目前我们就先这样吧,只能说很明显的是,战争后来成为了关于奴隶制的,而这在很大程度上被天王星在双子座的影响所概括,但同时也包括火星与天王星在双子座的合相中所展现的那种自由和解放的斗争,和试图压迫他人、剥夺他人自由的斗争之间的紧张。没错,这就是问题的关键。好的,我觉得这一部分就到这里了,让我们稍作休息。我们在《占星播客》中使用的占星软件是针对Windows系统的Solar Fire,如果你通过alove.com购买并使用促销代码AP15,可以享受15%的折扣。对于Mac用户,我们推荐Astrogold for macOS,同样可以通过网站astrogold.io使用促销代码astropodcast15享受15%的折扣。好了,让我们开始第三部分,看看天王星在双子座和火星与天王星在双子座合相历史,这次我们从1941年至1949年的天王星在双子座的时期开始,这基本上包括了美国参加二战的时间,然后进入了冷战的初期,即20世纪40年代末和50年代初的冷战形成期。
All right so here first is the graphic that page made to give us a timeline to show what we're looking at for those watching the video version so Uranus first goes into Gemini makes its first the initial dip into Gemini in August of 1941 and then right away in December of 1941 Pearl Harbor happens and the US is suddenly immediately involved in World War 2 so that's interesting because World War 2 of course had been going on for a few years at that point at least ever since Germany invaded Poland in 1939 and then World War 2 ends interestingly right in the middle of this period roughly in 1945 both when the war comes to an end in both when the war comes to an end in Europe basically in 1945 in the spring and then later in the summer when it comes to an end with Japan after Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
So then what's interesting about this is we have like the second entire half of Uranus and Gemini taking place from 1945 all the way until 1949 and what I find fascinating about this and I've only come to understand better is like usually I used to just think of this as like the World War 2 Uranus and Gemini period and it is that but that's just the first half of it and the second half of it is the US entering its perhaps biggest conflict ever in terms of like its biggest enemy and it's perhaps most dangerous enemy ever which is the conflict with the Soviet Union which takes place during the entirety of like the second half of the 20th century and it really gets set up in this five year period in the second half of this transit essentially right?
Yeah I mean what you can really say is the five year period or four year period between Nagasaki and Hiroshima to Uranus leaving Gemini in 1949 is this is the period where the United States is the only global superpower because it's just after Uranus goes into cancer for good in June of 49 in less than three months the Soviet Union is testing their first atomic bomb and then shortly after that the Chinese revolution ends and and the people's Republic of China is created so it really is this distinct period that we almost can't imagine now where the US was in conflict with the Soviet Union but the Soviet Union did not yet have a bomb and the United States of course had just had just used two of them and most of the country had only just learned that such weapons existed and everyone's coming to terms with that it's an important thing to remember.
I'd like to say this here and now about the general theme when Uranus has gone into Gemini is that when Uranus eventually leaves Gemini and we have a new situation like after the Revolutionary War we have the creation of the country after the Civil War we have a centralized federalized state and then after the Second World War we have this global superpower in all these cases that was never anyone's intention or desire when Uranus had first gone into Gemini the outcome at the end is always something that nobody was trying to make happen you know no American whether they were richer poor right wing or left wing wanted the US to become a global superpower in 1941 but it happened anyway just because a series of events led to that similar with you know as we were saying with the Revolutionary War when Uranus went into Gemini there wasn't anyone who wanted to break with the king at that point that's something that came later.
And I think I think it's an important thing to remember now in a period where the country seems to be changing very quickly and no one's really sure where it's going to go and we're very suspicious of some people's you know nefarious schemes it's important to remember that the outcome has never been what anyone was trying to make happen it's always been some other that almost seems obvious after the fact but was not obvious to anyone until it happened sure yeah I mean I understand that here especially with World War II in the sense of like the US became the de facto world superpower after this due to on the one hand the the nuclear bomb and being the first country to develop that but then also due to the incidental the the almost accident or side effect of Europe being completely decimated and like Asia being completely decimated after World War II and the US being the only major superpower that didn't fight it on their homeland and therefore was in this this crazy positive good economic position after World War II compared to everybody else.
So it certainly comes out that's like a side effect essentially of World War II in terms of the US but other times it's like sometimes with a revolutionary war certainly the colonists and some of the people that were pushing for like freedom and liberation of the colonies ended up creating something or getting something in the end that matched their ideal of having some sort of liberation maybe maybe like would you say that I mean that would be true though right yeah there's a lot of stuff about the the rhetoric in the aims of the revolutionary war that had been in place for a good long time I mean 20 years earlier during the French Indian War Benjamin Franklin had met with some Haudenosaunee you know people and noted their system of government and and proposed it even then 20 years before the revolutionary government that hey maybe Americans should organize themselves in a democratic fashion not unlike the way the Haudenosaunee do although the Haudenosaunee didn't have congresses and sendets and what have you they had a full-on participatory democracy what what in the modern day modern day terms we'd call anarchism but regardless it's a democracy in the sense that there are no leaders and everyone has a or but in most cases people have a participatory vote.
I think it's only it's only mothers of of sons who have a vote in war for instance and things like that anyway long story short there are a bunch of different um themes leading up to the revolutionary war they're not brand new ideas but the idea of turning the country into this this new republic and breaking away from the British Empire that really is something that no one was really planning on um you know no one with no one's sitting in the continental congress maybe Tom Payne is thinking it but um yeah that's what I was thinking there are like yeah there's your Tom Payne's shirt sure yeah okay um but um Tom's Jefferson isn't thinking George Washington isn't thinking at Benjamin Franklin isn't thinking it Benjamin Franklin is you know has to has to have his you know road to Damascus moment he has to sort of turn around and see things differently before that you know it comes to that.
Um okay or like Adams John Adams at least at least in that like series I watched that John Adams series with Poggio Mardi they kind of portray him that way as well of like he was somebody that wasn't a revolutionary at first and and even like pushed against the idea but then like came or came around to the idea eventually yeah no I mean he yeah probably him him as well um there's that great scene in that movie when he does finally meet King George III when he's the the ambassador and and the way he's got a back out of the room when he leaves the room you're never supposed to like show your back to the king and it's a great scene as my favorite scene in that whole series but um yeah no it's true I mean for all these guys it really was something that they they had to come to you know.
And Tom Payne was a very like Tom Payne was an Englishman who had just sailed to the United States he got off his boat in like late 1774 he writes common sense barely a year after he's first arrived in the United States and he's got his own he grew up in a town where um where executions were held and so he saw and like it's the the naval you know punishments and what have you so he saw a lot of brutality in England because of where he lived so he had the opinions he did you know because of his English experiences but yeah then he sails to America barely survives dysentery on the boat right over and meets up with Benjamin Franklin because he has a referral and winds up writing common sense which is very important and and is looking forward um but it's it's uh um but in so far as like the the the men gathered at the continental congress they are not talking about overthrowing the king in 1774 that isn't happening yet.
Okay all right so um to take it let's get back on our track of World War 2 um so World War 2 um the nuclear question is going to become a recurring theme because this one is centered on that and it falls right in the center but it comes out in more ways than one um but there were some important pre-earness and jemeni things that happened when Uranus was going through Taurus and especially when Mars conjoined Uranus and Taurus in the period that led up to the period that we're going to talk about.
So um there's two in particular I wanted to mention one is that uh Nazi Germany annexed Austria and this took place in 1938 when they invaded Austria March 12th 1938 and this was um very close to the exact conjunction which was March 28th 1938 in Taurus and so this was like one of the major turning points early on because even though you know World War 2 isn't usually dated to starting until the following year 1939 when Germany invades Poland um this is the first step of Hitler's like outward expansion by taking over Austria right on this Mars Uranus conjunction in 1938 and I think there's something incredibly symbolically significant about that.
Yeah absolutely um it's it it catches people off guard it creates the the anshelus creating the the greater Germany uniting the the German speaking countries and um and of course Hitler was Austrian himself by birth um so you know there was an element of of um you know uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh bringing bringing the family all under one roof I suppose from his perspective.
Um but yeah I think you're right there is an element of it that is um uh a precursor to eventually him invading Poland it's a step prior to eventually when he goes too far by invading Poland later right because it it absolutely emboldens him and nobody else nobody in Europe like does anything or hardly even says anything so it emboldens him and sets him up for the for to pursue further territorial expansion which is eventually what leads to World War 2 in in Europe exactly.
Yeah um because it's the following year 1939 he invades Poland and then Poland has treaties with other countries like the British right yeah yeah um they had sworn to to protect Poland and and I mean in between that there was the the Sudetenland crisis so after he invades Austria in early 38 later in 38 he invades this part of Czechoslovakia where there's a large German speaking population called the Sudetenland and um he invades that and there's this whole uh meeting with the British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain the French President or French Prime Minister um and uh Mussolini and Hitler and they negotiate and the the the Czech you know president is sitting outside waiting for them to decide what they're going to do with this country.
And the the ultimately they decide okay Hitler promises he's not going to do any more invasions but they say okay you can keep this Sudetenland that you've just taken um right and Neville Chamberlain gets yeah Neville Chamberlain gets this you know written promise from Hitler that that of course turns out to be broken a few months later you know um even before he invades Poland but by the time they invade Poland um um you you know that that's really it that's when he crosses the line and and they can't just pretend to put up with it anymore so it's that this is that whole it this like kicks off that whole period of like the policy of appeasement basically yeah yeah exactly yeah yeah the the the term appeasement comes from the thing I was telling you about with with Sudetenland but this is leading up to that appeasement yeah and certainly as appeasement in its own right although they're not even calling it that yet right okay that makes sense.
Our next event after this is important but it's subtle it's a little bit subtle or more subtle than that one and it takes place on the following conjunction of Mars and Uranus two years later and this is still a Mars Uranus conjunction in Taurus it's the last Mars Uranus conjunction in Taurus it's setting up a precursor to what will happen again during Mars Uranus conjunctions in Gemini but on in March of 1940 under this conjunction is the Frisch-Pierreux memorandum where there's these two refugees Fritt uh refugee physicist in Britain who write a secret memo that calculates that an atomic bomb is actually feasible using only a small amount of Uranium and prior to that time like the idea like Einstein had already written his letter his famous letter that's more well known than this one to the president um to Roosevelt saying that he thinks the Germans are developing a bomb and we should the US should start working on developing a bomb but at that time when Einstein wrote the letter they didn't think they thought it was going to take tons of Uranium and it was going to have to be like a huge thing to build a bomb and it wouldn't be able to be something that could be loaded onto a plane but then all the sudden when this you're this memorandum is written not right on this Mars Uranus conjunction they redo the calculations and they figure out that it's actually a small amount of Uranium could be used to create an atomic bomb and it makes it small enough that it could be loaded on a plane and that changes everything when it comes to the nuclear project.
And so this document directly led to the formation of the British committee committee and the US Manhattan project which were the ones that would secretly during the course of World War II develop the bomb eventually culminating in its development in 1945 and then basically employing it so this is a super important turning point with essentially the start of the process conceptually of being able to do the atomic bomb right on a Mars Uranus conjunction in 1940. Yeah and there's there's an interesting midpoint to all this because in August of 1943 there's the Quebec conference and Mars goes into tourists like towards the end of that conference and it's that conference that Churchill and Roosevelt really sort of solidify the you know the joint nuclear operation they I mean it's already underway but they they finalize a lot of details and you know the shared responsibility of it all.
And that's under what alignment? The Mars, sorry I said tourists but I meant Gemini when Mars goes into Gemini in late August of 1943 there's the first Quebec conference and that'll happen so even on the way there'll be there'll be another Mars Uranus co-presence where the nuclear project you know at the top level is being formalized. Okay nice I didn't know about that one and what did that conference establish again? Just the cooperative effort of the two you know of the two nuclear projects between Britain and England the secrets they're sharing and who's going to do what not you know just the detail of the joint project.
Got it okay got it nice. Yeah this one ends up being all about the bomb and stuff as we'll see as we get further into it. Okay so now we jump forward two years of course to the next I guess we get the 1942 one right? Yeah yeah. Okay so this one is March 1st 1942 this is the exact day of the conjunction of Mars and Uranus in 1942 and this is the Battle of Sunda Strait which is this major battle because in you know late December in December of 1941 Japan attacks the US in a surprise attack in Pearl Harbor and then immediately the US declares war and gets involved in World War II officially because that's the weird thing about World War II and about the Uranus and Gemini time frame is like World War II has been going on for like two years at this point since 1939 at least when Germany invades Poland but the US due to especially what is it like an internalist what's the word when you're like like a oh yeah um um like protagonism isolationist. isolationism next okay thank you that's what it's like with an eye yeah yeah.
There was because it's like World War I hadn't occurred that much earlier it occurred in the ended in like 1917 time frame and so there's still a huge amount of sentiment in the United States of like not getting involved in another major foreign world war and so even though Roosevelt kind of knows this is happening and he's like sending supplies and doing stuff secretly as far as he can in the late 1930s and early 1940s it's not until Japan attacks in the December of 1941 that there's like a public sentiment changes overnight and all of a sudden the US is involved in the war and this is not long after Uranus had first dipped into into Gemini of course in August of 1941 so what's important here though and what I found is the US and Japan start having open conflict in the Pacific by this point by this Mars Uranus conjunction and this major battle takes place the exact day of the conjunction march 1st 1942 but the US task force basically gets wiped out at this point it's like it's a striking defeat on the part of the US that effectively ends the United States easy attic fleet as an organized fighting force in the Pacific and sets them back like majorly like right at the start of the war.
Yeah I mean they're still you know building all the new boats and you know armaments and what have you with the newly converted you know industrial machines that that Rose Velt has as used you know the getting getting getting the whole war machine in place that the United States didn't have a big sort of war machine up until then they had to move very quickly to get all the you know equipment that they would need so it was early on but you know soon enough that the US would be fighting with more up-to-date you know ships and what have you right so this is like and this conjunction happens at 26 degrees of tourists so this is still because Uranus had gone into to Gemini in August of 1941 but then it retrograde it back into tourists and then we get the Mars Uranus conjunction at the beginning of 1942 and so this ends up then being kind of a precursor thing which is that the US is like rapidly winding up it's it's more time production capabilities but then and they start engaging the Japanese basically in the Pacific but there's this loss that happens like a loss in a battle.
Yeah yeah I mean they you know Japan had been you know fighting China already and they'd they'd want to war against Russia and so they were a pretty battle hardened and you know whereas the US was reluctantly getting pulled into this thing so I'm sure some of that is is a part of it as well I just want to clarify that when when Uranus went into Gemini the first time in August of 1941 it was right when it went in that was when Churchill and Roosevelt met for the first time what they called the Atlantic Charter when Roosevelt was the the US wasn't in the war yet but they were giving these lend lease weapons to Britain and so that that relationship solidified it then Uranus went retrograde went back into tourists and Pearl Harbor did happen when it had retrograded back into tourists but by the time it's going into Gemini the fighting proper is starting the you know this this early skirmish notwithstanding about it.
Okay so then we jump forward to 1943 and 1944 we jump forward one Uranus conjunction cycle and this is actually our first set of conjunctions in Gemini and what's really striking about it is that Mars goes retrograde in Gemini in 1943 and 1944 so as a result of that we get a triple exact conjunction of Uranus and Gemini the first one being September 9th 1943 then December 30th 1943 then January 16th 1944 so we end up having this really extended in long Mars in in Gemini period as a result of that retrograde. Yeah yeah and and it's you know it's interesting because the the Mars retrograde during the civil war you know didn't involve a triple thing because the the retrograde happened before the conjunction but this one because there's three you know really is it's another one of these like everything happening at once type of of situations and yeah probably all the more so because of the the actual Mars stations and the Mars retrograde not least of which you know having having one of your opponents switch sides just as Mars goes retrograde is part of it I think or just as the conjunction hits rather.
Okay so in terms of events one of the major ones is the invasion of Italy's mainland begins in September of 1943 during this Mars Uranus conjunction and this is like the beginning of the collapse of the first major axis power so this is a significant turning point yeah um the the king of Italy turns power takes power away from Mussolini it gives it to Bedolio and Mussolini is rescued from imprisonment by someone Hitler sends and so you know he gets out of dodge but Italy is now on the allied side of the war although the allies have to invade Italy to fight Germans and get them out of Italy so and that's that's what they're involved in that you know D-Day hasn't happened yet the French landing that everyone's heard of that still a year away in June of 44 but this is this is the allies penetrating what what Churchill called the the soft underbelly of of Europe which is Italy easier to invade through Italy than through France you know um and so that's that's what they do is sort of like the first the first part of fighting the European war.
You can also start to think of this this is when the Americans just a little bit I mean they fought in Sicily in July of 1943 but but with taking on the mainland of Italy in September 1943 this is really them the Americans getting involved in the fighting in the American continent for the first time because up until this point they've only been fighting in the Pacific insofar as world war two is concerned oh in Africa and Africa there's also been fighting in Africa but not in Europe what I didn't realize when I researched and wrote this one down is I didn't realize that the date falls almost exactly on the conjunction um because I was just like I just looked at the stop and it says Italy's unconditional surrender was publicly announced on September 8th 1943 by General Dwight D. Eisenhower from Algiers following the secret signing of the armistice on September 3rd making the date of the announcement the key moment when the Italian people in the world learned hostilities were ending although German forces reacted by occupying Italy.
Look at the chart for this this is stunning I didn't realize it was this close but September 8th 1943 literally the day of that announcement Mars is at like eight degrees of Gemini and Uranus is at eight degrees of Gemini's we're talking about this happening right on the exact conjunction yeah and that looks like that's on the fixed-star El Debaron as well or very close which is interesting as well it's also close to the like the Sibli chart Uranus is eight degrees of Gemini isn't it? Oh good point good point so this is also like the exact Uranus return of the US and it's coinciding partially with yeah having this major victory in Europe and starting to turn the war in that direction as well as one of the first major you know ground invasions happening you know of the US invading Europe and setting things up for D-Day which actually brings us to our next most significant event that also happens during this time frame which is that Eisenhower gets appointed as supreme commander during this period around December of 1943 in January of 1944?
Well you're leaving out the Tehran conference before you get to that though Tehran is super super important. I mean I'm just following that line of what we agreed on yesterday. Oh okay sorry about that. What did we miss? Did we forget to add an event? I think I think yeah because I had in my notes I should have put in in that part. So yeah the the Tehran summit well first there was the Cairo conference November 22nd to 26 where Churchill and FDR met with Chankai Shek who was the the Chinese leader fighting Mao and then after that meeting they go to Tehran and they meet with Stalin for the first time and this is where they lay out all the plans for D-Day because Stalin has been getting on their case since the beginning. He wants the whole reason he's in an alliance with England and the US is you know he's supposed they're supposed to be helping him fight the Germans and they've been like fighting the Japanese and fighting in Africa and doing all these things but now they're ready to fight in Europe and so their meeting up with Stalin and they're finalizing all this and this is why like you're you're you're talking about Eisenhower being you know chosen as the commander-in-chief of the European theater.
That's all being decided over the course of these talks. So yeah it's happening during the Mars retrograde in Gemini. Exactly yeah leading right up to the summit ends just before the actual Sun Mars opposition. The Sun Mars opposition is December 5th the summit ends on December 1st and it's on December 7th you know just after that that FDR decides it Eisenhower is going to be the supreme allied commander as a result of everything that was decided in Tehran so yeah I definitely wanted to include that. Got it. So this there's that entire process but then the consolidation of leadership culminates on January 16th 1944 which is interestingly the day of the exact Mars Uranus conjunction when Eisenhower formally assumed his duties in London marking the official start of the operational countdown to D. Day and to the invasion of France and of Europe.
Yeah and D. Day would would have a well somewhat not an astrological connotation but they did deliberately do it during the full moon of the the summer solstice because that's when you would have you know a full moon like that you didn't want to have a lot of lights and what have you to alert the Germans so you wanted to sail into France on moon light alone so they did it on a full moon and it was a real like they weren't sure until the last minute if the weather would permit but they knew in order to pull it off right that they had to do it under a full moon in order to be able to see what they're doing but at the same time land without alerting the Germans.
And you're saying that was a full moon or an eclipse? No it was a full moon not none. Okay. I'm just saying. Yeah. Got it. Nice. Yeah. Good old moon light you know old fashioned warrior trick. Yeah I love that. What's funny how much stuff gets planned around things like that even still like I was reading something after I did one of our Mars retrograde episodes recently where it was like it turns out that there's a most optimal time to launch a spaceship to Mars and it ends up following in their range when Mars is about at the square and I think it's like the retrograde square or something like that.
Oh yeah yeah well I've got a book in my library on all the Venus space missions that they've sent and they always send them during Venus retrogrades because that's when Venus is closest to Earth it makes perfect sense. Ditto you know like if a Mars if Mars is going retrograde it's going to be closest to Earth you're not going to have to spend ascend the the spaceship as far. So it makes perfect sense that you know that's when they do it. Yeah so it's funny how many there's a bunch of little instances like that in history where people end up doing things for practical purposes based on certain planetary alignments but then it also has funny astrological implications as well.
Yeah exactly yeah. Yeah but um so back to this point though because this is a crazy alignment about Eisenhower because it's literally like the day of the exact conjunction the third conjunction um look at the chart for this. So this is the day that um that Dwight D Eisenhower general Eisenhower shows up in Europe and assumes his formal duties in London as the supreme allied commander for operation over Lord and for the invasion of Europe for D day basically and look at this like Mars is at five Gemini and it's exactly conjoining Uranus at five Gemini like that's crazy to me and it also is crazy because it fulfills some of the symbolism I keep thinking about like Vades of Allens as significations of Mars which I almost maybe we should have read at the beginning because some of them have been strikingly relevant here but one of them is it actually talks about like generals and like supreme commanders and like the heads of military being associated with the planet Mars and it's crazy that we have on the day of this conjunction like this top general like assuming his command post.
Yeah yeah yeah that's preparation for what would be the biggest I think it was still the biggest like invasion and history right? It was it was and and Eisenhower being chosen is kind of ironic um because really the top choice would have been George Marshall but FDR felt that he like he needed Marshall with him as his advisor so choosing Eisenhower to be the supreme allied commander is really like you know because he's got to keep the best guy with him he's got to go with the second best guy to actually send on the mission and that's Eisenhower so it is kind of and Marshall does feel a little you know put out that he doesn't get to go because he really is the you know the most qualified but it's almost like he's so qualified FDR needs him at his side he's too valuable to to send there got it and then of course Eisenhower is important here in being the the supreme commander of the invasion force but he of course famously would go on to become become president of the United States after World War II in the 1950s right?
He certainly would um he would be elected when both Saturn and Neptune work and junked his son and Libra in the first televised presidential election in American history in 1952 so that's crazy because we're seeing on this Mars Uranus conjunction the general who would become one of the most famous generals in American history assuming the highest command post that he would ever get in the military and doing the thing that he would become the most decorated military you know person for which eventually then becomes the springboard for him achieving the presidency later on? Yeah absolutely yeah not unlike what happened to Grant after the Civil War who also ran for the presidency in one two times.
Okay yeah I was trying to just gonna ask you who were the other because Washington of course was a famous military general who then became the first president? Yeah Washington and Grant obviously was a really important general but even a lot of the the following presidents were men who had distinguished themselves in the Civil War you know Garfield McKinley well two guys who were assassinated as well but they were both you know Civil War officers who did a lot most yeah most of them well okay I can think of maybe some who weren't but a good number of them were so yeah it is something that that happens obviously but Eisenhower yeah he follows in the in the footsteps of your of your grant or your your Washington where the the reputation and the achievement and the victory is so overwhelming that the guys just to shoe in you know regardless of qualification which is definitely in question with both Grant and Eisenhower but that's another argument.
Well that's kind of interesting then in terms of like a little Mars and Uranus thing that that Washington is like the general during well that there's a contrast there's the people that were a general before and then that becomes part of the reason they get elected president later versus somebody like Lincoln who's like not a general not a military person and like you said it was like reading books in order to like learn how to be a military commander yeah no that I mean that is what's really interesting about Lincoln is that he's got no experience I mean he did he was in the the militia or whatever and I think served in the Black Hawk war or something of to that effect but nothing you know but most most men of his social class would have been involved in that probably but yeah really no real military interest or expertise whatsoever and he's literally teaching himself how to become a general by reading books in the library you know when he's not in the telegraph office following the war.
Maybe that's an important theme here that we should be I'm starting to pick up on then is just the rise of these significant military leaders during these times where during the Revolutionary War it was George Washington during the Civil War it was you know Lincoln doing the opposite process but then his primary general that helped him win the war ended up being grand and then grand of course later becomes president and then now we're seeing during World War II we have FDR who's not a military person in the same way that Lincoln wasn't but then we see the rise of a general who ends up being his primary general in Europe at least and then that general later after the war rises up and becomes president.
Yep yep no it's a good point we ought to be looking out for who the next one might be. Yeah that could be really important clue. Look at I just pulled out my my book Hellenistic Astrology the Study of Fate and Fortune available in fine bookstores everywhere to see that passage you've got it nice thank you. All right thank you for this promotional moment.
So let me share the screen really quickly just because this is there's this the very beginning of the second century Astrology of Adios Fallens and his anthology he goes through each of the planets and he gives this long list of significations for each of the planets and later on in his significations of Mars he says this he says Mars brings about leaders and military service and high ranking officers soldiers and sovereignty so think about that this is a guy writing like the second century in Greek who's writing about Mars representing you know the military but also like high ranking military officials and then literally the day of this Mars Uranus conjunction in 1944 on January 16th we see one of the highest like military commanders who's moving into a position of not just leading the US military but is taking this position of having the highest position over the entire Allied like military alignment alliance and preparation for this invasion that's pretty pretty stunning yeah yeah good old Vettius you can count on him yeah you can all right so moving on that's basically the conjunction of 1943 and 1944 do you have anything are there any of the major ones that we didn't include in the main outline before we jump to the next one.
Yeah I mean there are a number of important battles we don't want to get lost in the weeds I guess one thing I would I would add in here is one of the fireside chats that FDR gives at this time on January 11th so just five days before the conjunction he gives a fireside chat where he proposes an economic bill of rights which would guarantee employment with a living wage freedom from unfair competition and monopolies housing medical care education social security and he sort of you know talks to the American people about this in January of 1944 after he's just come back from Tehran the war is going on it's a very curious time for him to bring it up but it's it's a it's a speech that has you know resonated with a lot of American sense and you know it's it's something that people bring up from time to time so it's also interesting that that that came up in the middle of it all.
Also interesting since I'm on the subject of FDR he was born with Mars um stationing retrograde in Gemini very close not stationing retrograde I think it was about the station direct about the station direct rather um on his minute yeah yeah he's he's got the Mars retrograde in Gemini Lincoln like I said was born just as Mars was about to go retrograde in Libra so that's another thing that like FDR and and Lincoln are both Aquarius sons but they're also both born very close to Mars stations.
Um here I'm glad you mentioned that because that is pretty crazy about FDR about Franklin Delano Roosevelt for so here's his chart January 20th January 30th 1882 845 PM he has Virgo rising and his mid heavens up around let's say around 22 degrees of Gemini and his Mars which is retrograde in Gemini is at 27 degrees of Gemini so that's a great point that like he was born with Mars retrograde in Gemini in the 10th house of like career and action and reputation and and your like life's work and then famously would be right in the thick of World War II when Mars go went retrograde in Gemini in the 1940s during this pivotal turning point exactly exactly.
So also you know curious he's got the south node there as well I've you know it's probably too big for the this episode but I've been looking at the individual charts of people involved in these three wars and where they have the nodes always interesting to me you know when they do have a north or south node in Gemini I mean think about it his south node at seven degrees of Gemini you know Mars Uranus conjunctions are happening all over that south node as he's planning this the the whole D-Day thing as he's you know as the Italians are surrendering as the summit in Tehran's happening and he's you know Eisenhower's gonna be the commander all that is happening with these conjunctions going over his south node which is yeah really interesting to me yeah that's actually really crazy.
And that means that also means that around the time that he was born that there was a clips is taking place in the Gemini in Gemini like around the time that FDR was born and the the Eclipse is during our time period sort of kick in in like 1945 and Gemini right after you know he dies in 1945 so so those don't I the the nodes overlap but but the Eclipse is not quite almost I guess the other thing is you know it's he's got Mars Retrograde in Gemini with the south node in the 10th and this is someone who had a physical disability but but kept it from the public which I mean it's just an aside but when I'm looking at the chart that just sort of that accrues to me as well that he's doing all this when he's you know most of the American people don't know that he's actually confined to a wheelchair and can only walk around for short periods with these very painful you know leg irons and while you know walking with his son holding his arm and stuff he pulls off amazing you know theater for cameras for film cameras doing this but he's you're so seeing that with the south node yeah.
Yeah with the with which lacks agency which is a sort of you know can be a depleted you know force okay I was thinking more like in some of the Hellenistic astrology like Valens call the nodes the Eclipseing places and Eclipseing can literally mean to like to hide or obscure something right right although I thought yeah the north node tends to amplify the south node tends to like diminish or or and it has no agency the south node is like like you know doesn't doesn't move it responds it reacts so yeah just the observation yeah nice.
All right so let's see so we jump forward after the the Mars retrograde the big one in in 43 and 44 we jump to the next Mars Uranus conjunction and weirdly it falls this is the most important one of our entire series because it was a huge turning point not just in US history but in world history which is the atomic bombings of Japan of of Hiroshima and Nagasaki fallen the Mars Uranus conjunction and co-presence in August of 1945 and then that also marks the end of of World War II.
So the US developed and tested the atomic weapon a little bit earlier in the summer when Mars was still actually in in Taurus but then they ended up deploying and using them in war for the first time in August of 1945 and by that time Mars had moved into a close conjunction with Uranus yeah yeah it's it's wild that this happens at this time yeah so the exact the exact conjunction is August 17th of 1945 but you have to think of it in terms of the succession of events which is like the the dates were submitted and right down the dates what was the date of Hiroshima's August 6th Nagasaki's August 9th the surrender I think is August 14th my birthday but the actual surrender is September 2nd like like the physical surrender when when the Japanese surrender to MacArthur in person is September 2nd I remember that.
Yeah so let me share that chart for that because it's it's really stunning just from a intellectual like sort of stepping outside of yourself just astrological perspective so this is the chart for August 6th 1945 and actually I should maybe I should pull at the exact chart because the exact chart itself is actually even more stunning because it happens to be on the mid-heaven at that time so here is the chart for the exact moment of the atomic bomb attack on Hiroshima in August 6th 1945 and it happened at 815 am in Hiroshima Japan and Virgo was rising and the mid-heaven was at 16 degrees of Gemini and Uranus was exactly on the mid-heaven at 16 degrees of Gemini conjunct Mars at 9 degrees of Gemini.
So basically not only was the Mars Uranus conjunction happening and moving into a close alignment in Gemini at this point but they were both like right on the mid-heaven at their highest elevation at the time of this this event of the the first time that the atomic bomb was used in war in the entirety of like of world history yeah the the detonation moment it's totally wild it's totally totally wild that the chart works out like this yeah so on the one hand you have there's many different sides of this that are like pieces that we've seen earlier of little versions of that all come together at this moment.
Which is like on the one hand we see the use of a new military technology suddenly being deployed for the first time so the first time new military technology is being used in war to to kill people just like in the civil war we saw the attempts to use those iron fleet ships in one of the battles and unavailing that technology this is like a much more advanced version of that under the subsequent Uranus and Gemini transit we also under some of the previous Mars Uranus conjunctions have seen massacres and like mass casualty events and this is one of those events because they didn't hit like a military target it hit also like a whole civilian population that was wiped out in in an instant by a single bomb which is something that the world hadn't seen before.
But that's a whole major part of this is just the civilian and like human deaths and casualties and murders that happen at this instance under this Mars Uranus conjunction which is like an amplified version of what we've seen before yeah I mean think you know going back to the civil war when when Sherman is carrying out his total war against Georgia I mean that is seen as like this new level of barbarity at the time and that was of course in Mars Uranus extension with the Mars retric rate and then in the revolutionary war we had things like wax haze or even just the general guerrilla style fighting that was prominent in that campaign and the wiping out of you know Mohawk villages and things like that you know really sort of massive massacres that occurred.
The Mars Uranus co-presences do seem to coincide with a fair amount of of war being taken to a new level if you will you know of of I mean I don't want to call it an evolution but I guess it isn't a way you know just the the the the the the advancement so to speak of of how war is fought the the brutality of it the the you know sort of thoroughness of the destruction I suppose is a big part of it as well yeah absolutely well and it becomes the turning point in human history because this becomes the thing that unlocks for the first time ever the ability of humans to destroy themselves and to destroy the entire human race as this opens the whole nuclear proliferation age.
Which would ramp up under another conjunction that we'll see in just a little bit when the U.S. only gets about like five years or something of being the sole country that has nuclear weapons and then Russia detonates their nuclear weapon and surprises the U.S. under Mars Uranus conjunction cancer just after our period and that begins the period where suddenly you have these two super powers building up thousands of nuclear weapons and bringing the entire world to the brink of destruction through the mutually assured destruction doctrine of like wiping each other out and this this period of of almost like insanity.
Yeah and and it really only ultimately you know collapses when one side runs out of money you know which is really uh you know in in the 80s that the the proliferation proliferation was still growing and then Reagan came up with that Star Wars you know uh SDI defense system idea which at the time was pure science fiction no scientist in the world thought it was serious whatsoever but just the idea of it Reagan talking about it got the Soviets worried enough and knew that there's no way that they could you know compete with that cost and so that's one the you know the things really started to unravel for the Soviet Union not being able to compete with Reagan's you know daydream of a science fiction space weapon but there you go it had to it had to get to that point before it could stop you know it had to become completely outrageous.
and and um unaffordable before it could stop right um let me read again some of the significations of valence because I think they're relevant here when we're seeing this process of um Mars being amplified and what Mars meant in ancient astrology because sometimes in like modern astrology we we think of it like as Mars in a psychological context of like one's drives or ambitions or or other things like that um but sometimes the ancient delinations of Mars were a bit more stark especially when it was described in its more negative capacity but but in instances like this are sort of more striking and appropriate in a way.
so um again here's my book and this is valence's significations of Mars we says and I'm thinking about this event of the atomic bomb being used but he says the star of Mars signifies valence wars robbery screams insolence adultery taking away of one's possessions banishment exile a strangenment from one's parents captivity which I think is actually interesting about our earlier discussion about slavery um has some other ones like the sexual assault of women abortions sexual intercourse marriages loss of good things lies hopeless situations violent thefts robbery plundering separations of friends anger fighting verbal abuse hatred lawsuits he also brings about violent murders wounds and bloodshed um imprisonment torture masculinity perjury deception those who have much experience and wrongdoing those who work with fire or iron because Mars is associated with fire those who work with their hands.
and then this last part that I already read that he brings about leaders and military service and high ranking officers soldiers and sovereignty um scroll back up for a second to the the previous page because there's one other thing when I'm thinking about you you skipped over it but think about it when we're talking about nuclear bombs attacks of fevers ulcers skin eruptions inflammations hmm right absolutely like the the after effect of those who survived the bomb but experienced the the effects of like the radiation and the burns yeah yeah yeah yeah that's a really good point um well and it also I mean I guess I'll just go on and it says um blah blah back portion it signifies falling on one's back and it rules that which is hard and abrupt.
um so I think we've seen like a lot of those significations play out in different ways today but there's something about some of those that become amplified to their worst extent sort of in this moment um but in terms of the broader war and the sequence of events we saw that when the bomb is dropped in Hiroshima Hiroshima Mars is at nine degrees of Gemini and Uranus is at 16 but then look at the sequence of events if you animate the chart over the course of the next week which is that um Nagasaki happens three days later so Japan Japan doesn't surrender and the US drops a second bomb on Nagasaki on August 9th and by this point Mars is at 11 degrees of Gemini and Uranus is at 16 degrees of Gemini so the conjunction is grown even closer and then on August 15th is the Emperor's 14th by the down is the 15th what event the Emperor's broadcast uh Truman's broadcast.
to the American people but maybe this is uh maybe this is an international date line issue maybe it's the you know because it's tomorrow in Japan today right okay okay so I'll put it for 14th so what was Truman's broadcast? Truman's broadcast was on August 14th and it's when he notified the American people that Japan is surrendered. Got it so Mars is at 14 degrees of Gemini by this point and Uranus is at about 16 degrees of Gemini and on August 15th in Japan the Emperor Hirohito announced the surrender of Japan to the Allies effectively ending World War Two and so we have the end of World War Two basically at this time as the conjunction moves within a degree or two of exact so that's just an absolutely stunning alignment then of World War Two coming to a close because it already ended in Europe a few months earlier with the fall of Germany in like April and May but then here we have the end of the Pacific campaign with Japan surrendering the other remaining Axis power right under the exact conjunction basically in August of 1945 and that's again just another stunning alignment and it's also stunning because we saw the end of the Civil War taking place under a Mars Uranus conjunction at the end of that war as well so that means the two biggest wars basically in US history both ended under Mars Uranus conjunctions. Exactly it's wild.
I am seeing here my notes indeed that the Japan surrender was announced to the Japanese people on the afternoon of August 15th in Japan which because of the time zone difference was 7 pm on August 14th in America so yeah it was that time zone thing international date line thing but you're absolutely right both wars ending on the Mars Uranus is stunning it's just and the Revolutionary War you know of course the you know also basically ended on with with the Mars Uranus with the peace talks oh you're right yeah I forgot about that so that's like the third war yeah that's just crazy that's absolutely crazy and again it's like sometimes things are starting under Mars Uranus conjunctions because the conjunction can represent the start of a synodic cycle between two planets and other times things are ending under these conjunctions because a conjunction also represents the end of that entire circle or synodic cycle between those two planets yeah and you can even see how for a given person they start something under one Mars Uranus conjunction and then end their business with that affair at the next one you know I think we've seen a few instances of that just going through these wars yeah absolutely.
So one other thing happened on the day of the exact conjunction I noticed on August 17th 1945 on this exact day the orders were finalized for the division of Korea at the 38th parallel which separated the Soviet and American occupation zones and basically set the stage for the Korean War that would take place not that many years later yeah yeah good point that falls into to all of that yeah I mean that one of the reasons the atomic bomb was was dropped was Truman had convinced Stalin to invade Japan when they were at potstem but the fear was that if Russia got too far into Japan they would you know get to take more territory so you know amongst all the other reasoning for dropping the bomb was to make sure Russia didn't get their hands on Japan but rather that the Americans did right.
I've read a lot of the different debates about that and the extent to which like some people argue about like the extent to which was the dropping the bomb necessary or was dropping the second bomb necessary and to what extent it was partially meant to be a message to the Soviets at that point because the Americans were starting to look at what would happen after World War II ended and that the Soviet Union would be their opponent their primary opponent as soon as World War II was over.
Yeah I mean some did I think I think you know Truman trusted Stalin a bit more than he would later but I'm sure people in the State Department who were seasoned you know know it all knew that they had to look at Russia that way for sure sure yeah well and that's because that's the thing is like when we look at our timeline let me pull it up again we are at 1945 we're only halfway through our Uranus and Gemini period and what happens immediately after this over the next four or five years of Uranus and Gemini going through the rest of the sign is that the Cold War starts basically in the foundations of the Cold War between the United States and Russia get started and that is part of what leads us to our next conjunction basically which is we jump forward two years to July of 1947 and the National Security Act of 1947 is passed at this point.
And this is striking because it was the largest structural reorganization of the US government and US history and it established the permanent military intelligence complex by creating the Central Intelligence Agency the CIA the Department of Defense and then finally also the United States Air Force is an independent branch so that's huge and it's falling on this Mars Uranus conjunction in 1947 yeah you know you know how Pete Hague Seth and Trump have called it the Secretary of War the Department of War again it used to be called the Department of War until Truman changed it with this act so it's funny they're they're trying to undo something that was decided during a Mars Uranus and Gemini when Uranus went back into Gemini got it.
Okay so and this is the like post-World War II period where the world is like coming out of the World War II but part of the um impact of World War II is that a large part of the different countries have been split up between Russia and either the US or other countries because the Soviets like the US invaded France and Europe from one side and the US and Britain did and other allies but then the Soviets pushed in from the side of Russian to Germany and then Germany gets split up in a bunch of the other countries get split up and we have the beginning of like the iron curtain at this point essentially as well right.
Yeah yeah exactly um that all sort of fragments um and and a lot of that is taking shape exactly during this period that we're we're covering right now um leading like an early 48 not long after this conjunction there they're you know Czechoslovakia is trying to break away and they're they're sort of forced back into the fold and and yeah the new regime is taking hold there's also there's the the Berlin air lift will will happen between 48 and 49 but this particular yeah this conjunction in 47 Truman's revamping the whole you know operation creating the CIA creating some things that he's going to regret before you know too soon um and yeah you know this is this is this reconfiguring is part of of what the Cold War is going to mean about it's it's what the the US being a global superpower is going to mean um that's what this new you know beefed up um government operation is going to be all about right.
Yeah so that takes us to two years later to the conjunction that takes place in 1949 July 25th 1949 and this is really important the exact conjunction itself happens on on July 27 that two degrees of cancer so now we're moving into the post Mars Uranus the the post Uranus and Gemini period and moving into the Uranus and cancer but what happens on this date on July 25th just. two days next to the conjunction is uh president truman signed the NATO treaty and this was basically ratifying and putting into place the US and its involvement in NATO which is an alliance of countries basically that was um being put together to counter the Soviet Union at this point as part of the ramping up of of the Cold War that was happening and it's it's incredibly striking to me that NATO is ratified on a Mars Uranus conjunction at this time yeah absolutely the um the treaty was signed April 4th when Mars was in a big uh staleum and aries conjunct Venus and the Sun and in an eclipse uh well a couple of days after an eclipse with the node um but yeah the ratification is really you know because the US of course had been was the country that started the League of Nations and then didn't join the League of Nations
the United Nations was now about two years old but the US hadn't been good at you know they had been isolationists up until the war and now they're creating these organizations these multinational organizations you know security and and and um financial and what have you so it's it's really interesting the shift like how how America changes during this period it's really hard to convey if you think about how Americans saw themselves saw their country saw their place in the world in 1940 versus 1950 um it's really really different yeah that's a good point to to contrast of the isolationism of the US going into World War II and then seeing the consequences of that basically which is being dragged into and having to to fight a major war as a result of like putting that off and trying to like stick to themselves and pretend that you could be an island and isolation and let everybody else deal with their own problems
but then you think the US comes out of World War II doing the opposite and instead setting you know being involved in setting up the United Nations and then here on this Mars Uranus conjunction setting up the um north Atlantic defense or sorry the north Atlantic treaty organization which is between 12 nations the 12 founding nations which is like the US the UK Canada France Belgium Netherlands Luxembourg Italy Denmark Norway Iceland and Portugal um as a military alignments against basically against the Soviets and against Russia yeah although the first time a NATO force would go into combat would be Afghanistan 2001 okay yeah so that's really important and then finally um we jump forward no we don't jump forward actually under the same exact Mars Uranus conjunction but just a month later the first Soviet nuclear test takes place August 29th 1949 when the Soviet Union successfully detonated its first atomic bomb and this was really important because on the one hand it shattered the US's monopoly on this new technology of atomic weapons but also because it it was a sudden surprise and shocked to the US because the US was anticipating that the Soviets were still five years away from having the atomic bomb but it turned out that they were much more advanced than the US realized and suddenly it completely changed the game right on this Mars Uranus co-presence and conjunction and cancer in August of 1949
yeah and it's I mean it's worth pointing out um you know the cold war was this incredibly paranoid time um but it's worth reminding people that um you know not to defend the paranoia but a big reason the Soviets got the bomb that quickly was because of their espionage program even during the the Manhattan Project I mean when Truman tells Stalin about the bomb at Potsdam in July 45 Stalin already knows he doesn't tell Truman he already knows but Stalin already knows all about the Manhattan Project he knew about the Manhattan Project before Truman did which is ironic in itself um but when the Soviet Union gets the bomb it's because they have had spies everywhere um and and reporting back to them and so it's it's not unlike you know any of these instances of paranoia like like the great terror in the French Revolution or what have you
it's generally based on something that while being technically true gets blown away at a proportion or or the you know the response to it is not um a proportionate to the the actual level of the threat um and and I think this is a you know another example of that right that the espionage that the Soviets engaged in allowed them to get further ahead in their research into nuclear weapons then they would have been otherwise and that actually as a side point brings up a later conjunction that I noticed in 1953 which is when Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were executed for espionage on June 19 1953 on a conjunction on a Mars Uranus conjunction that when exact on July 12 at 18 degrees of cancer and they were executed for um being involved supposedly being involved in espionage of sharing Soviet nuclear secrets from the US with the the Soviets.
Yeah um today it's it's 100% certain the Julius Rosenberg was actually guilty. Ethel may not have well probably was not or merely by association but it's probably um you know she probably should have been found innocent but Julius Rosenberg it turns out was guilty um but it's yeah it was um it was hardcore that was how people felt and it really divided the population you know I mean they had kids you know um executing a married couple with children means you've suddenly created orphans you know um their their kids were adopted by the man I forget his name but he wrote the lyrics to strange fruit of the anti-litching lynching song that Billy Holiday made famous um his name is on the tip of my tongue but anyway yeah um really you know really really sad story it's true Julius was guilty but you know Ethel you know was was probably executed wrongly.
Um and uh but it does it doesn't part to you that um although people you know we're often going overboard and and you know you can always argue the death penalty is going overboard but it was based on on some some real fears you know the nuclear question was I mean we're we're terrified today imagine being terrified of it in 1949 when it's really new and and you know just that much alien and unfamiliar um so yeah you know this whole thing made people really crazy.
Yeah when we talked about that incident in 1953 with their execution because this is also during the height of the panic and on the one hand the paranoia surrounding the cold war because this is also 1953 is also the Saturn Neptune conjunction so this is the center of the red scare or the what's the other term for in this time period red scare um um um maybe that is the term I think I thought that's another one yeah yeah no red scare is as good as any I mean there might be others but um that that's that's pretty good but anyways so this I thought this was striking the 1949 one because it means basically that the Soviets and the post period um set off their atomic bomb on a maras urenous conjunction and that um this was the start of like the nuclear arms race basically between those two countries that would just escalate to the point of insanity during the course of the rest of the 20th century.
And what's fascinating about this is I found one last one to book in this which is that um the USSR dissolved at the end of 1991 and then on February 1st 1992 George Bush Bush and Yeltsin signed the camp David declaration that formally ended the cold war hostilities and this declaration was really close to the exact conjunction of maras urenous which took place on January 29th 1922 at 15 degrees of capricorn so it means that the cold war function 1992 you said 1922 yeah 19 1992 the cold war ended officially on a maras urenous conjunction that's why is that crazy like what.
Yeah yeah yeah no that is that is when when you think about everything we've just covered and you you zip to the you know the last page of the book so to speak and there you are another maras urenous conjunction um yeah that that is that's that's really wild that's it's like we have the start the ratification of NATO in 49 we have the end of the cold war and uh this declaration uh ending hostilities on a conjunction in 1922 you have to the bigger you know the broader thing about the nuclear question is you have that paper being written in March of 1940 basically showing that the possibility of an atomic bomb was was practical and could be done and starting the entire process that would lead to the Manhattan project and everything else in a maras urenous conjunction in 1940 then you have the um use of the atomic bomb right in the middle of maras and maras conjunct urenous in jemen in 1945 you have the Soviets detonating their bomb in 1949 and the maras urenous conjunction.
Then you have this interim period where the us and the Soviets just do this brinkmanship for several decades of building up hundreds of bombs pointing them at each other coming very close several times to absolutely destroying each other through things like the Cuban missile crisis or that submarine incident where uh soviet almost like sent off you know weapons and other you know almost accidental or near destruction like that and then finally you have the the de escalation after the fall of the Soviet Union in the us and um the so the Russian state for me signing this this declaration on the maras urenous conjunction that kind of closes that era to a certain extent yeah it's it's epic um wow i'm i'm not easy i'm not easy to impress with astrology i'm used to having my mind blown with astrology but that yeah gotta say that's that's something else.
Yeah well when you and i put our minds together on these things and some amazing we do some amazing research some amazing stuff happens and i and i think we i think we've done that again here today yeah i think we can pat ourselves in the back yeah absolutely um brother okay so i want to do a wrap-up section but before we do that i just want to see is there anything else we should have mentioned in this section about you know what functionally when we put it up again the the diagram for the period that we're wrapping up right now which is you know urenous and jeman i from 1941 to 1949 which obviously it's like the first half centers on the us involvement in world war two and its culmination and and and then the second half is basically the beginning of the cold war.
And then we can i hope we i hope it's clear now why you know when you and i did this episode when we started this episode you know you were you were wanting to do to go outside of the period a little bit and i kept saying like no let's keep it let's keep it to like urenous Mars urenous conjunctions and jeman i and just do that but the further and further we went into that i realized that things were culminating during the Mars conjunct urenous in jeman i periods but there was an obvious like build up in the Mars urenous conjunctions in tourists just before that and there was an obvious like continuation and carry forward and bring the completion period in the subsequent Mars urenous conjunctions and cancer that happened after our core periods so that it was really clearly in all three instances creating a a narrative and a sequence of events that was like urenous and tourists urenous and jeman i and then urenous and cancer.
Yeah yeah that's been happening repeatedly here so i think we've made that case very well yeah yeah so i hope that's clear now why we've decided to to structure it like that to talk about a little bit of Mars urenous conjunctions in the tourists mainly in jeman i and then a little bit in cancer because of that that sequence and that continuation but um and you did drop one in capricorn at the end there though the when the cold war ended in 1992 that was Mars urenous co-president capricorn but still um yeah um same principle yeah little little teaser there a little bit um okay well if we don't have anything else to say about this period of the 1940s i'd like to take a little break and then we'll come back and and wrap things up.
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All right I think now we're going to transition into our final section here which is to talk a little bit about what we learned from all of this and also to look at the upcoming period that is coming up now that Uranus is moving back into Gemini over the next seven years and try to anticipate some of the themes that are coming up based on what we've seen so far. So I think on the one hand um you know we did the Uranus and Gemini you wrote an entire book about like Uranus and Gemini in the United States that you published back in like 2013 right? So it's like you've been talking about it for at least that long um we I interviewed you about that book very early in the history of pop the podcast probably around 2013 2014 then you and I did a whole episode on Uranus and Gemini periods back in 2022 I think is when we released that yeah so we November 22 yep we did a sort of similar overview.
But I hope now it makes sense for those that already watched that previous episode how um we wanted to do this one in an order to get into it more granularly by really focusing on those Mars Uranus conjunctions especially after the episode we did on recurrence transits where I could really see how powerful that technique is and I could truly understand why then with the US being born with that at the time the Declaration of Independence that it built that signature into the birth chart for the entirety of US history but especially during those periods in which Mars and Uranus are conjoining in Gemini as being super crucial and important turning points in US history.
Yeah yeah I mean it's it's really clear and it lays out this this timeline of all these critical building blocks in the history of the country I mean the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution you know and Hiroshima yeah you know it's just it's everywhere and the Civil War and the 13th Amendment and you know the Cold War and its start and ending point including like the foundation of NATO and the formal cessation of like hostilities basically between US and Russia temporarily in 1990 1991 1992 there's so much there um yeah but let's take a look though and see what we're looking at coming up as we entered this new period.
So here once again is the graphic that Paige made us for Uranus and Gemini from 2025 through 2033 so that is the broader period that we're looking at and Uranus first dipped into Gemini last year on July 7th 2025 but then it stationed in Uranus it means it's first retrograde station in Uranus in early September and then it retrograde it back into Taurus on November 7th 2025 and then Uranus is going to return to Gemini on April 25th 2026 and then we're going to get our very first Mars Uranus conjunction in Gemini at three degrees of Gemini exactly on July 4th 2026.
So I hope it's clear now when you and I and other astrologers who might be even vaguely aware of Mars Uranus conjunctions in US history like raise their eyebrows when they see a Mars Uranus conjunction coming up in Gemini. literally on July 4th on the birthday of the country you now understand why that might make some of us a little bit nervous or how it gives us a little bit of trepidation perhaps yeah I mean it it it really looks like a thing with a capital T um I mean the the the whole you know the the idea of there being a an MMA fight there or whatever they're they're they're going to do um I mean that that was kind of on the nose whether that comes to pass or not um you remember that's a that's that's a side show I mean to what the magnitude obviously of what we're talking about coming up presumably it is yeah yeah um I mean it sure sounds like it.
Remember like you know Trump's birthday this past year his 79th birthday the fact that you know you know he's got Mars rising in his chart and it was a 79th birthday 79 is a is a synodic Mars return a goal year um and you know he had that military parade you know we and and we kind of called it long long before that that you know his birthday was going to be special and then I mean even though it kind of wasn't but he sure wanted it to be um I'm getting the same there are several things there that we'll talk about in just a sec yeah but there's there's um there's just something about this July 4th and the fact that the conjunction is there that um really makes me think like yeah this is this is going to be no ordinary you know national holiday.
Yeah well it's going to be important events that circulate around that conjunction but not just that because it's happening on the the nation's birthday that year it's going to imprint that conjunction on the solar return chart for the year that follows from July of 2026 until July of 2027 is another side effect of it falling right on the birthday like that but I want to outline the full period here so we have um we can see that you know Uranus and Gemini first starts in 2025 and Uranus doesn't depart from Gemini until the for the final time until May of 2033 so we're looking at a very long like you know six seven years coming up of this period playing out over the course of the most of the next decade.
And the exact conjunctions are listed there but I also want to list the co-presences which we didn't always give the dates I may splice them in and post for the the earlier ones but here's a slide that gives the co-presence dates of Mars co-present in Gemini with Uranus in a sign-based conjunction and then the exact conjunction dates because as we've seen both of those are relevant here and these are going to are going to end up being critical critical dates in the things that are to come in the time of troubles basically it's to come which is the first co-presence is June 28th through August 11th 2026 and it centers on an exact conjunction at three degrees of Gemini which takes place on July 4th 2026.
Then two years later we get the next co-presence which is June 7th through July 20th 2028 and that one centers on an exact conjunction at 11 degrees of Gemini on June 23rd 2028 then two years later we jump forward to the next Mars Uranus conjunction and the co-presence happens from May 19th through July 1st 2030 and it centers on an exact conjunction where the energies will peak around June 15th 2030 at 19 degrees of Gemini.
And then finally the fourth and last conjunction the co-presence takes place from April 28th through June 11th 2032 and it centers on an exact conjunction around June 6th 2032 at 26 degrees of Gemini so those are going to be our critical crucial timeframes and dates for the Uranus transit through Gemini over the next decade but also especially for the Mars Uranus conjunctions that will take place during that time.
So there's an oh can you put it up for again for a second I wanted to point one thing out the third one June. 15th 2030 that's the day after Trump's 84th birthday his Uranus return and he was born with the sun conjunct Uranus and on that day the sun is going to be conjunct Mars and Uranus which to and June well his birthday is June 14th but the June 15th 2030 is very close to his solar return and his Uranus return and Mars is going to be in there in the mix and we've got another interesting sun Mars conjunction to talk about in a moment but I just wanted to point that out since yeah that's right there got it okay yeah that's good.
Okay so I want to talk about some precursors though that have led us up to the present point in time as we're on the edge of and we're moving into the Uranus and Gemini period in the first conjunction of Mars and Uranus and Gemini next year. So there turns out there's been a number of precursors that may be relevant to our present time that were events that coincided with Mars Uranus conjunctions over the past decade or two especially.
And one of them I want to talk about the start with that I thought was really striking was the exact day of the Mars Uranus conjunction and Pisces that occurred on April 15th 2009 was the Tax Day Tea Party protests and this was the first major nationwide mobilization of the Tea Party movement where hundreds of rallies occurred across the United States on this exact day.
So this was in that period immediately after Obama got elected in November of 2008 when you started seeing because it's like the context was that there had been eight years of President Bush which was especially centered on like the 9-11 years of you know President Bush gets into office and then immediately within the first year of his presidency September 11th happens and then the US goes into a war with Afghanistan and then later Bush takes us in 2003 into a war in Iraq and he gets reelected in 2004 but by the end of his term after eight years of Bush there's just like fatigue with the endless wars and a lot of the stuff that he's been up to.
And then we see this like historic ushering end of what seemed like a new era at the time with Obama being elected at the end of 2008 and coming into office at the beginning of 2009 but then what was so striking about that period in the spring is there was this Mars Uranus conjunction and then all of a sudden there was this upsurge of like a movement on the right basically to do certain things basically an encounter movement that was building essentially at that point on the right I think it's fair to say right?
Yeah yeah as a reaction to the earliest days of the Obama administration. Right and early in Obama's presidency you know Trump started becoming more prominent because throughout the 2000s he'd been doing a television show the apprentice but early in the Obama presidency he was one of the louder voices that was questioning Obama's whether Obama was born in the United States and he was claiming that Obama was born in Kenya or something like that and Trump we could see early in Obama's presidency started trying to push to remake his image it seemed like a little bit.
And one of the important instances of that that you noticed was a Mars Uranus conjunction in early 2011 when Trump taped the Comedy Central roast right? Yeah it's actually it's really interesting because 2011 was the year that Uranus moved from Pisces into Aries but as it happened so did its co-presence with Mars so in March of 2011 the Comedy Central roast of Donald Trump was taped and I have to say he came off as a pretty good sport at that one compared to say Chevy Chase or what have you.
But two months later at the end of April 2011 by that point Mars and Uranus had both moved from Pisces into Aries they were still co-present that was when the famous White House correspond its dinner happened when Obama roasted Trump and Trump didn't take it so well was not quite the good sport I think that he had been for Comedy Central two months earlier or a month and a half earlier and then it was I think that same night or the following day that Obama had Osama bin Laden taken out.
But yeah you know there was something about the the the rift between Trump and Obama that that correspondence dinner I think is a major landmark I think it's recognized by most most people to be one in the in the rift between them so it's interesting that that was Mars Uranus.
Yeah let me put that up so you can see the chart because it's crazy it's like here's the chart for April 30th 2011 and we see Mars at 21 Aries exactly conjoining Jupiter but Uranus it's coming off of this conjunction and still in this co-presence with Uranus at two degrees of Aries which is just recently changed signs.
And actually changed signs I think the day of the Fukushima disaster nuclear power power plant disaster which was also a Mars Uranus event but this event is important because on the one hand you have a huge turning point in US history that takes place at that time in a significant moment because of the US finally locates and assassinated Osama bin Laden and retaliation for the September 11th attacks 10 years earlier almost exactly a decade earlier so you you had this really major public moment that took place although nobody that night knew it had happened yet although it would be announced right afterwards.
But then the same night something really important is happening that's also very publicly visible but nobody at the time realized how important it would be which is like Obama and Trump are both attending the White House correspondence dinner and Obama gets up and kind of roasts Trump and says one of the things he did actually I remember at the time is he put up like a Photoshopped image at one point of like he was like if Trump ever gets in the White House then it'll look all like kind of extravagant and like he put up this mocking image of like what the White House would look like if it was covered in gold and stuff like that.
Which ironically tended to be like what's happening right well it's like yeah like not even to be mocking about it but it's like literally like some of pieces of that are weirdly prescient in terms of some of the gold redecorations the building in the ballroom and other stuff that are happening right now but a lot of people have speculated that that may have been an important moment in terms of you know Trump's hatred of Obama which is getting roasted like that very publicly and very severely or or something let's say yeah yeah.
I mean it's not the same thing as the comedy central thing which of course still puts them you know on a on a chair it has the the gloss of being friendly and and even kind of you know good natured and what have you whereas even when it's very mean whereas you know the White House Correspondence Dinner is more serious affair and and Trump you know is obviously going to see this very deal he's going to see it as an adversary taking a swing at him right when the thing about the comedy central roast that I think is important is like a lot of celebrities were doing those roasts during those time periods in order to remake their image and I think to me I take that sometimes to mean that this is one of Trump's early steps towards his eventual role of running for the presidency.
Because he's doing something in order to to remake his image and to humanize himself by going on and getting roasted by a group of of comedians and like friends yeah and to my point like I think he he pulled it off that night in that I mean we all know he's very thin skinned but on that particular night he you know he was he was a good sport about it all he sat there he took the jokes and you know got through the night and you're you're right it is it's a perfect vehicle for a makeover and I think a lot of people used it for exactly that right.
So that's in 2011 but then I know there's some intermediate ones but then we jump forward to one of the next and most crazy intermediate ones which is there was a conjunction that went exact on January 20th 2021 which is a Mars Uranus conjunction in Taurus and this was the day of Joe Biden's inauguration and it was just weeks after the January 6th event where in late 2020 Trump lost the presidential election but then he rejected the results and he said the election was stolen and then eventually this culminates in early January when Trump is holding rallies in Washington DC and then a bunch of his followers went and like stormed the Capitol and it was this really striking event in US history that we all watched on full live on television at the time.
And us astrologers were especially watching it because what we saw was earlier in the day when it began Mars was at 29 degrees of Aries but then by later that day Mars had clicked over into zero degrees of Taurus where it joined Uranus which was in the early degrees of Taurus at that time so it began literally the sign-based co-presence that day the day of January 6th which was really crazy to see at the time.
Yeah and it reminds me of like you know that Mars at 29 Aries on January 6th was coming out of the retrograde in September of 2020 Mars had gone retrograde at about I think 27 Aries or something like that so it was just moving out of that path that it had been in the retrograde phase as it was moving into Taurus and that even kind of reminds me of how you know Mars on 9 11 was just a couple of degrees outside of where its retrograde station had been a few months earlier you know on 9 11 it was at 2 Capricorn the Mars retrograde station and I think May of 2001 was at 29 Sagittarius.
So there's this yeah something about these things blowing up the US is often under some kind of law often I mean when when let me rephrase that when the US has come under some kind of attack be it a 9 11 or a January 6th it's always been after a Mars direct station after there's been a Mars retrograde and often in you know in the cases of 9 11 and January 6th it's like a couple of days couple of degrees outside of the where the retrograde station had been Pearl Harbor same thing after after Mars direct I think I've I've mentioned this before but the list goes on and on it's quite consistent but yeah I mean that's interesting for that reason that Mars moving out of the retrograde in areas and then you know and then it's going into Taurus is all that craziness is already well underway right absolutely so what it ended up what ended up happening then is like January 6th happens the day Mars switches over into the co-presence with Uranus and Taurus but then the exact day of the conjunction ends up being Biden's inauguration January 20th 2021 and because January 6th had just taken place this attack on the capital had just taken place DC was like heavily militarized basically on that inauguration and that was one of the most striking things about the inauguration as it kind of shut DC down in terms of some of the normal things that you used to happen or did happen up to that point in inaugurations and look at this conjunction it was that Uranus was at six degrees of Taurus that day and Mars came up to six degrees of Taurus that day well so yeah so it was this really strike I remember that day watching the inauguration because everyone was nervous because we also didn't know it was going to happen after that and whether there would be like further confrontations or or or or something else but it ended up going by relatively peacefully.
So that's 2021 later just a few weeks later you noted something that was really important that took place under the same Mars Uranus co-presence in Taurus that year on February 8th 2021 right yes yes I did it was wait what was it again well that I lost my place in the last Trump Trump created the company though to have become truth social correct yeah sorry I lost my list the Trump technology and media group was founded and that is I mean this is he had just been kicked off Twitter of course also I mean this is when he's going through the second impeachment because January 6th is just happened and so all of that he gets again it's that acceleration of things you know January 6th happens so that triggers the second impeachment it triggers him getting kicked off Twitter so he starts his own company that's going to start truth social all of these things are taking place during that that Mars Uranus yeah because what's important about that to remember and what we noted at the time is because Trump was born with Leo rising all of the Mars Uranus conjunctions in Taurus were taking place in his tent house and that was one of the most striking things about that conjunction is after January 6th he started getting just like major blowback from that where the the second impeachment happened he was kicked off of Twitter and a bunch of other social media sites.
But one of the things about getting kicked off and receiving as much blowback as he did in early 2021 while Mars and Uranus were conjuring his tent house is that he laid the seeds and foundations for his comeback basically and for where he is today and one of the things you noted during that time period is he started the company that would eventually create truth social which would become his new platform for sending messages to his followers and getting his word out once he'd gotten kicked off of Twitter that it was basically like a like a clone of Twitter exactly yeah which is I think recently he's reappeared on Twitter but you know he still has truth social and yeah that's been his avenue you know since then.
Yeah so in that way it's kind of like him at his lowest point and let me let me actually share the his chart so here's his actual chart so this is Trump's chart with Leo rising and we see that Mars Uranus conjunction at six degrees of tourists so that's in his tent house so on the one hand it's dealing with like the aftermath of being president losing the presidency watching on that day Biden his his opponent get inaugurated and take power um dealing with the second impeachment and dealing with getting kicked off of all of social media but then also laying the foundations for a comeback that would take a few years to fully grow and bear fruit.
So we jump forward next two years so that was a Mars Uranus conjunction at the beginning of 2021 we then jump forward two years to August 8th 2022 there was another Mars Uranus conjunction in tourists in Trump's tent house and what happened at this point was the Mara Lago raid took place where I think it was the FBI raided Trump's home and took a bunch of boxes which were claimed to have like government documents and government secrets that he wasn't supposed to have and then as a result of those raids he was charged and had similarly serious government charges pressed against him at this time which could have ended his presidential aspirations to be reelected again and was another low point basically that was comparable to the previous conjunction when you know Biden was inaugurated.
So here's the chart for that day which is Mars was at 23 degrees of tourists and it was conjunct Uranus at 18 degrees of tourists and Trump's midheavens actually at 24 degrees of tourists so what we all all the astrologers noticed at the time was that Mars was exactly conjoining his midheaven at this time when the Mara Lago raid took place yeah very public right all right so then that's in 2022 and then we jump forward two years to the next Mars Uranus conjunction and that conjunction goes exact on July 15th 2024 and what happened is two days before the Mars Uranus conjunction went exact on July 13th 2024 Trump was at a rally he was giving a rally in Pennsylvania presidential campaign rally because we were in the middle of the presidential election and he was running against Biden and somebody there was a sniper that attempted to shoot Trump and there was the attempted assassination attempt basically took place that day literally two days from an exact Mars Uranus conjunction in his 10th house.
But then two days later so he survives the assassination attempt two days later the Republican national convention begins on July 15th which formally nominated Trump to be the presidential campaign candidate for the Republicans and the same day Trump announces JD Vance's his running mate on July 15th 2024 the exact day of the Mars Uranus conjunction and then also the same day a judge I think in Florida dismissed the Trump classified documents case that had been brought up against him two years earlier after the Mara Lago raid on the previous conjunction suddenly it gets dismissed on the following conjunction two years later on the exact same day and then if that wasn't enough it's crazy I mean this is absolutely crazy which we were watching we were watching unfold at the time and you can see us talking about this in the forecast episodes and just being like this is wild but now that we've done this history it's like even more crazy in that context yeah perspective.
So if that wasn't enough two days after the exact conjunction on July 17th Joe Biden whose president at the time announces that he's sick with COVID and then four days after that on July 21st Biden announces that he's dropping out of the race suddenly and he endorses Kamala Harris to be the candidate in the presidential election so is this crazy like sequence of events that all happened around the Mars Uranus conjunction in on July 15th 2024 that's wild yeah so pretty insane.
So there's one intermediate event which is just this past year in June of 2025 there was a Mars Uranus square that took place in the middle of that month where Mars went across the late degrees of Leo and it squared Uranus in late Taurus and again there was this explosion of several things that happened all around Trump's birthday which fell on June 14th of 2025 so one of them is that Israel and the US launched an attack on Iran next Trump had his birthday and he hosted a military parade in DC on his birthday with like tanks and stuff rolling down in front of the White House in response to that there was a massive protest called the No Kings protest that took place on the same day that weekend and then finally there was also democratic politicians that were assassinated I believe in Minnesota the same weekends that cast this additional weird and eerie air across everything.
And that was the that was the Mars Uranus square and so that all takes us to next year when our next Mars Uranus conjunction is going to take place on July 4th 2026 and that sets the context for obviously there's been all of this build up and in retrospect when astrologers and historians look back on the period that we're all about to experience of Uranus and Gemini over the next seven years and the four Mars Uranus conjunctions that will will have and will experience we're going to see in retrospect that all of these were precursor events that led up to what's about to take place exactly exactly.
So one other thing I would mention here that was an event I skipped over that I noticed that fell exactly on the you know because looking at that diagram it just brings up the question we've been wrestling with for a few years now which is like is this an internal conflict is it an external conflict or is it both and obviously over the past several years we've seen it turning into both and the potential for both to take place but one of the ones I noticed on a recent Mars Uranus conjunction that may be important is there was a Mars Uranus conjunction in Taurus that was exact on August 1st 2022 and on August 2nd literally the very next day tensions between the US and China suddenly spiked when Nancy Pelosi went to envisited Taiwan in person despite threats Chinese threats of military action and it created this sudden like geopolitical crisis and I think that might be important as a precursor conjunction that happened in Taurus just because if there was something comparable to like a an external conflict like World War II then obviously the US and China the two biggest military powers at this point that have been positioning themselves to come into conflict with each other.
And there's been reports that the leader of China has ordered its military to be prepared for a possible invasion of Taiwan by 2027 and Taiwan would be the flashpoint especially between the US and China if an invasion of China to Taiwan did take place because the US would potentially immediately get involved with the conflict with with with China at that point that's always been the conventional wisdom who knows at this point.
But you want to know what is interesting about that Nancy Pelosi was born in March of 1940 and has a natal Mars Uranus co-presence in Taurus oh wow okay yeah nice so that was um a recurrence transit then for her when she visited Taiwan and did that event on a Mars Uranus conjunction in Taurus yeah Mitch McConnell also has the Mars Uranus co-presence in Taurus born in February of 42 got it got it so um so I want to go back. then so I think we've clearly outlined actually there's one of their data point that we have to outline which is when the eclipses will take place so eclipses are going to start taking place when the south node moves into Gemini and we'll have a series of eclipses in Gemini from June of 2029 all the way through May of 2031 so that again as we've seen sometimes represents an amplification point when we start having eclipses there and of course right in the middle of that period is the the thing you noticed which is the Sun Mars conjunction on May 25th 2030 yeah okay so these are giving us all of our time frames for like potential flashpoints and everything else.
Uh so now I want to take it back and briefly just talk about some of the key themes that we've seen in the past in history um to sort of wrap this up and round out some of the themes that we've seen emerged during the course of these Mars Uranus conjunctions in Gemini especially. So one of the major things that we've seen is themes of rebellion revolution violent uprisings succession and insurrection so the most striking instances of that of course were the Declaration of Independence under Mars Uranus conjunction in Gemini and then the southern states succeeding in the start of the civil war under Mars Uranus conjunction in Gemini.
Yeah yeah absolutely and um um just like all the way through um um perfectly aligned duck son or row what else would you say about that for that theme here um it's it's the sort of the I mean the I'm thinking about the other end it's it's the the start the end and and these are always these periods when the country is sort of like redefined you know like like like created I mean even just these these basic things like the the Declaration of Independence the Constitution literally define the country.
Um but even just the transit of of Mars Uranus and you know going from from conjunction to conjunction that these events that happen around these times also contribute to defining what the country is or what it's going to be right yeah yeah there's something about just the fact that the country was born as a result of a rebellion and a revolution and a severing or separation where there was this violent like wrenching apart from its parent state of this new entity that like asserted its freedom through a military revolution.
And there's something about that that's like built into the core of the country and then when that same energy got activated again one cycle later when Uranus cycle later we got almost another version of that where the southern states attempted to do the same thing which is like a cert and rebel against the parent state and form a different entity but in that instance the rebellion or the insurrection or uprising was pushed back against and quelled essentially they really do they really are like two parallels that just sort of diverge you know on a on a few points.
Um yeah it is almost like a it feels like a sequel or a remake or something right for sure so a rebellion that attempts to set up a new independent government but also the flip side of that is one of the things we saw over and over again was the use of military force to attempt to clamp down on a rebellion so this happened with the intolerable acts where it's like the colonists were like acting up and acting out and we're doing little revolutionary things like the Boston Tea Party and then the British government the government at the time which is also the government of America the time clamp down with the intolerable acts.
And started using military force in order to like attempt to control and suppress the rebellion and we saw something similar one cycle later when Fort Sumter happens and the southern state starts to seeding and they start using military action to attack the the government and then Lincoln immediately like calls up thousands of troops in response to Fort Sumter to begin attempting to put down the rebellion which is what what the Civil War would become.
And then even more recently like January 6th and the inauguration was there was a group of people that kind of like stormed the capital at the time and then that little mini rebellion kind of got put down at the time in in early 2021 so there's something about that as well that tension between Mars and Uranus that sometimes is like a larger force attempting to quell a rebellion from a smaller force.
Yeah we actually I mean some of the things we left out when we were compiling material for this I mean there were other sort of uprisings in other periods you. know uprising in Baltimore in the early days of the Civil War during a Mars Uranus co-presence of a bred riot and Richmond during a Mars Uranus co-presence during the Civil War there are instances like this where where you know a mob of some sort you know gets unruly during a Mars Uranus co-presence.
Yeah so I want to we get a bunch of those because it turned out we had a bunch of like other Mars Uranus alignments during other areas that were really interesting but we decided not to include in this episode for the sake of time that you and I are going to record a follow-up episode of the Secret Astrology podcast which is only available to patrons patrons of the Astrology podcast through patreon.com slash Astrology podcast and we're going to release that later this month where we'll go through some other Mars Uranus events that happened in American history outside of the Mars and the Uranus and Gemini periods that were really interesting.
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Yeah that was actually a crucial follow-up episode because we included a bunch of charts that we didn't get to but also a bunch of like really important principles in that follow-up on recurrence transits.
Yeah yeah that was a dynamite one. All right so other themes recurring themes that I saw that I tried to like identify an ice one of them was the use of military force to clamp down on a rebellion backfiring and exacerbating a revolt so the intolerable acts was really an instance of that because in 1774 into that Mars Uranus the intolerable acts and the British government attempting to clamp down on the colonists completely backfired and what it did was uniting the colonies and prompted the first continental Congress so I think that's a really important element as well of sometimes when you attempt to clamp down on a rebellion it can be like grabbing a fistful of sand and all of a sudden the sand just like falls through your fingers or it's sort of like you know when a politician lies and then tries to get tries to cover it up and gets in way more trouble trouble for the cover up than they would have for the lie it reminds me of that a lot.
Right right all right other times let's see a violent rebellion or insurrection that's brutally suppressed so the 1811 slave revolt of Mars Uranus and Scorpio was an instance of that also notice like the fall of the alamo was an instance of that which I'll talk about in the Secret Astrology podcast episode other themes a rag tag militia defeating a professional empire through unorthodox tactics and guerilla warfare this is really what the revolutionary war was all about which I thought was striking just because that fits the dynamic of Mars Uranus in like unconventional warfare can be part of that theme.
Yeah and then and then Sherman's total war and the civil war and then the nuclear arms in the Emerald War 2 there's always that just sort of like total devastation type of thing.
Yeah that falls under my next category which is just like massacres like we've seen a lot of really bloody violent conflicts that are just like escalated way beyond things that we'd seen before up to that point which of course you know culminates the most strikingly and the most horrifically with with Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945.
Yeah. Other things a military action that lights the fuse for a larger and more explosive conflict. There's an example of this I guess we'll talk about in another episode of Polk in 1846 sending troops into disputed lands that leads to skirmishes with Mexico and this ends up leading the fuse for the Mexican-American war starting just months later.
Yeah also Mexico owed money and they were collecting them the debt but there was that as well yeah.
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Okay the use of new weapons and new military technologies the atomic bomb obviously but also the first battle of Charleston harbor and the use of new forms of naval warfare at that time I'm sure there's a bunch of other instances of this that we didn't get into and each of these wars whenever Uranus is gem and is in Gemini is often notable because of the advances in technology that take place during the course of those wars especially because of the urgency of the war really pushing each side to develop new technologies in order to be victorious so the obviously the Manhattan project is the biggest example of that but we also saw a ton of other technological innovations taking place all throughout World War II especially in terms of like the use of airplanes and things like that during the course of that war and it really becoming much more like a war about air domination being crucial than any other war had been up to that point.
And then during the civil war there were also other things about technology besides just the new ships that we saw but we had things like the telegraph and the communications technology like a much bigger role during that war compared to let's say the revolutionary war huge the telegraph is critical a Lincoln spends you know every day at that telegraph office and it like I mentioned that the Crimean War had happened just five years earlier and Russia totally lost that war because England and France had telegraphs and Russia didn't and so like even the Russians are was reading about progress in the war from British and French newspapers because yeah you know and they had the railroads to sort of ship men and weapons in and out and everything so it was insane the technological disparity and you see that sort of carry over to the civil war rail road is it you know a real crucial factor for moving men and arms and all that and sabotaging those rails you know when deemed necessary and yeah and the telegraph was a total game changer the internet of its day.
Yeah or like submarine warfare during World War II to even like cryptography during World War II and the use the use of codes to send secret messages and then they attempt to use early versions of computers to like break codes and the allies being successful in breaking some of the German codes ended up being very important and decisive for the war effort. Yeah you know Alan Turing deciphering the Enigma code and the Americans using Navajo and I think Comanche as well you know code talkers was a stroke of genius it is it is interesting to me I mean in the Revolutionary War in the Civil War you know Amarindians are a huge part of both those stories we didn't get into it as much with the Civil War but the real like I said the planes wars are sort of breaking out these the massacre in Minnesota the the send Creek massacre you know that that that sort of thing is deepening and the Revolutionary War I mean certainly the Haudenosaunee are central participants in that war as or a number of other tribes around the Ohio area.
So for us to get to World War II and now you know you've got the Navajo and and Comanche code talkers and and and other you know really important participants in that war who are First Nations peoples it is it is it is interesting the way that whole dynamic shifts when you get to the Second World War not that the old problems were solved or anything of that matter but just when we're looking at the wars themselves and who's participating in and what way that is a striking difference.
Yeah absolutely that's a good point yeah and also and obviously we can see where that's going with the conflict basically that's coming up which is that we know for sure there's going to be the full use of new military technologies which we've already see be developed over this previous period of Uranus and Taurus and especially think about drone warfare and how crucial that's obviously become in wars like in Ukraine already but how that will probably become amplified during the course of of the upcoming conflict the upcoming war I should just say it but also other technologies that are emerging at this time like the use of artificial intelligence the use of quantum computing in order to crack codes and all of these other things that I'm sure will play a much bigger role including potentially other technologies that might be unveiled during the course of this both communications technologies but also military technologies during the course of this Uranus transit through Gemini especially around the time of the Mars Uranus conjunctions.
Yeah maybe Nicheps will save the world who knows right yeah for sure and then finally one of my last points that I wrote down because I thought it was so striking was just deliberation of previously oppressed people thinking back to the House passing the 13th Amendment on the Mars Uranus conjunction on January 31st 1865 and although we've talked about so much negative and like horrific stuff in terms of like like deaths and massacres and and great wars and military battles there are sometimes positive things that come out of these Mars Uranus conjunctions and that liberation of previously oppressed people is one of the greatest and highest potentials I think of the Mars Uranus conjunctions in Gemini.
Yeah well I mean it's been a crazy time there's the you know we're in the midst of some really egregious violations of basic human rights so that you know in some way people who have you know not being able to defend themselves from these kind of circumstances when the smoke clears is going to be a very strong push to make sure that we have that that people who are vulnerable like that you know refugees you know stateless people would have you that there's more protection for them on the planet that that people aren't just sort of you know stuck with nowhere to go as they often seem to be.
Yeah for sure yeah so these are some of the themes that we've just we can see from history at this point and obviously this isn't comprehensive I'm sure there's many other themes that we could have we could have pulled out from you know some of the historical stuff that we've gone over but I hope we've at least given people some ideas of what it looks like coming up what we're in for but also some of the access points for understanding and contextualizing this really important period in history especially in US history but also potentially in world history that we have coming up over the course of the next seven years and why it's so important and while and what turning points what time periods will be paying a special attention to especially around the time of those Mars Uranus conjunctions that are going to happen in two year increments starting in July of 2026.
Yep can't wait. Sorry now can't wait all right all right my friend I think we did it I think that's good for today and yeah thanks for doing this with me like I said earlier when you and I put our minds together and our different approaches together to reach searching stuff something magical happens and that keeps happening over and over again over the past three years that you and I have been doing these intense historical collaborations where we go back and we look at what happened under certain alignments in history in order to anticipate what's coming up starting with the Eclipse series that we did you know three years ago I think at the end of 2022 but then moving into the Venus retrograde series the Saturn Neptune series the recurrence transit series and now this one collaborating with you on these has truly been amazing and I'm super grateful to be able to do this work with you so thanks for doing it with me my friend.
Oh well thank you Chris I love that I love doing these episodes with you and yeah I get wonderful feedback on them so yeah thank you for having this platform and thank you for having me be the guy that works with you on this.
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Yeah I have a bunch of things going on. Nichepsis software is very very close to 1.0 coming out it is available for for subscription now but we have a refined version of the software that's finally coming out. I have a series of video essays that I am waiting to release but I wanted Nichepsis to get to this level of development before I started putting them out but that looks like that'll happen soon so please feel free to sign up to my patron you know patreon.com slash nickdaginbest if you want early access or if you want to help contribute to my making the series of video essays that I'm I've been working on for a long time I'm looking forward to it I think they're going to be really cool and yeah I'm offering astrology consultations and I'm offering an end of year rebate to your listeners promo code 2026 when you book a consultation at nickdaginbestestrologer.com.
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Thank you and it's not even one in the morning here yet so we're making these things go fast or somehow you will notice that I did not say this is only going to be a two-hour episode this time I constrained I controlled myself at the beginning of the episode I was realistic about what we were looking at and we we did it in a cool whatever five or six hours whatever this was yeah no I every time we do one of these I watch you go through the five stages of grief you know the denial always is the longest the most drawn out we're like no it's not going to be a six-hour one and then it's an eight-hour one yeah right because I the picture this was like hey Nick I need a light a little episode to do at the beginning of December so I can get forward to doing like horoscopes in the year ahead forecast and I need to research the Mars Uranus conjunctions maybe we could do a little light you know Mars Uranus conjunction episode and you know and then of course that turns into once.
you actually get into the weeds of it like a much bigger research episode that took more than a week to research and becomes a big sprawling thing but also because we start finding stuff in the dens that being way more interesting and way more incredible of a case study that I could even anticipate even knowing some of the highlights going into it and then yeah we you know I it's funny I see a lot of some people like complain that they're not going to watch the episode because it's too long but it's like sometimes we're doing these episodes for us because this is a book like we just wrote a whole book on this topic in this one like five or six-hour workshop and it used to be back in the day that people would like fly have to fly out to attend a workshop in person for something like this and like by plain tickets and like you know get a hotel for a few days the whole nine yards I get food but instead we're doing and just putting these workshops out there for free you know for just the love of the game for the love of astrology and the love of the research.
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