Weekend Wisdom: Pisces and The Spirit of Transcendence

Hello and welcome to three crazy people talking about astrology astrology for weekend wisdom on night light astrology. I am your ever fearless co-host Alex and Rosie along with the ever fearless Alexander Blair and the ever ever fearless Whitney Cranes. We are excited to be with you. We are going to look at some two very relevant and for me very contemporary Pisces celebrity charts today. We are not looking at someone from the 1980s but we're going to we're going to get back to that and we're definitely doing Lady Gaga next month just saying you guys we're doing Lady Gaga for areas. I cannot wait. That's a good either. Everybody come back in March. But this where you had two really amazing charts for you today. Before we get into it, don't forget to like and subscribe. Head over to night light astrology to see all the night light astrology things that are happening. Adam has a lot of wonderful things going on. And let's just dive in.

你好，欢迎来到《夜光星象学》节目，这里由三个对占星学充满热情的人为您分享周末智慧。我是你们无所畏惧的联合主持人，Alex 和 Rosie，还有比我们更无畏的 Alexander Blair 和 Whitney Cranes。我们很高兴能和大家在一起。今天，我们将探讨两个非常相关且现代的双鱼座名人星盘。我们不会回顾80年代的人物，不过我们会在下个月分析 Lady Gaga 的星盘，别错过哦，这可是大家期待已久的。三月记得回来收听哦。不过今天我们也为你准备了两个非常精彩的星盘。在开始之前，别忘了点赞和订阅。请访问《夜光星象学》以了解所有相关活动，Adam 正在开展许多精彩的项目。让我们开始吧！

How are you doing my friends? It's just so nice to see you and have an excuse to hang out. And this is like such a fun episode we get to do too. Like hard and just talking about charts. It's the best. Yes. I love it. And I love these two Pisces icons that we've chosen. I was like Alex, are you okay? They were both born contemporarily. Are you is everything okay with you? I'm feeling I'm feeling like I need to express myself and that I'm I'm okay. I see. Yeah. I need to have my feelings. And but I'm actually really okay because I think these are two phenomenally talented people. And I did not know anything about them until they burst onto the scene both in their own way.

你们最近怎么样，我的朋友们？见到你们真是太好了，也有了一个聚在一起的借口。今天这集节目也太有趣了，我们可以尽情聊聊图表。我真是太喜欢这样的时光了。我也很喜欢我们选择的这两位双鱼座的偶像。Alex，你还好吗？他们两人都是同一时代出生的，你还好吗？我觉得我需要表达一下自己，其实我真的挺好的。是的，我需要表达我的感受，但我真的没事，因为我认为他们都是非常有才华的人。在他们各自脱颖而出之前，我对他们一无所知。

And I think they also I think both of them exemplify Pisces in ways we might not expect. Which is real. I always love bringing up because I think it's so easy to just stick with sort of like stereotypical ideas of signs. And I think these two guys bring up really interesting aspects of Pisces. Yeah. And I love that they I think we should even focus on their more recent stuff because of all the stuff that's been going on in Pisces. Pisces has had Uranus, Neptune, Saturn, like this is the first time we're going to have Pisces free. And we have this eclipse that's building. And I feel like people have this idea about a Saturn return even. We'll talk about for one of these individuals. And definitely it's not having the Saturn return. People assume you would be having. So these are cool chart examples.

我认为他们两个人以一种我们可能没有预料到的方式很好地体现了双鱼座的特质。这确实很真实。我一直喜欢提到这一点，因为我觉得大家很容易只局限于对星座的刻板印象。而这两个人展现了双鱼座非常有趣的方面。而且我喜欢他们的原因之一是，我认为我们应该更加关注他们最近的动态，因为双鱼座最近发生了很多变化。双鱼座曾经有天王星、海王星和土星的影响，但现在是双鱼座第一次得到释放。而且我们正在迎来一场日食。我觉得人们对于土星回归也有一些误解。我们会讲到这其中的一个人，而且这次的经历绝对不是大家以为的那种土星回归。这些都是很不错的星盘例子。

Alex, I love it. Yeah. Alla. Alla. Thank you. Yeah. It's a it's a hell of a Pisces season, right? I mean, we were just talking on another show that even the Virgo eclipse is all about Pisces, right? So I think this is feeding feeding into that energy 100%. And you know, just before we get into the charts, Alexandra, I just want to bring up the point you said a million times. And I love it that Pisces has gotten outer planetary transits now for the last what like almost 20 years with Uranus moving through Pisces and then Neptune spent, yeah, decades. And now Saturn did the last sort of emphasis on it.

亚历克斯，我太喜欢了。是的，安拉。安拉。谢谢。这真是一个非常特别的双鱼季，对吧？我们在另一个节目中谈到过，即使是处女座的日食也都与双鱼座有关。所以我认为这完全是在增强双鱼座的能量。在我们进入星盘话题之前，亚历山德拉，我想提一下你提过无数次的一点；我很喜欢说双鱼座在过去的将近20年间接收了很多外行星的运行，比如天王星在双鱼座运行过，然后海王星也是用了几十年，现在土星最后又强调了一下。

Pisces, wherever Pisces is in your chart, or if you have strong Pisces placements in your chart, there's more than likely going to feel like a level of freedom and the lid gets taken off in a way that could feel very, very liberating. And like we have seen with these two artists coming up, we've seen that happen in real time over the course of the last couple months. So I'm super excited. Should we just jump into contestant number one. Let's jump in. Mr. Mr. Bunny. Mr. Bunny. Mr. Bunny. Mr. Bunny. Oh my god. All right. So it's not going to shock anybody. Not going to shock you too, that I know nothing about what's going on with football. I only know when this about the Super Bowl, when the Patriots are playing because I live in New England.

双鱼座，无论是在你星盘的哪个位置，或者如果你的星盘中有强烈的双鱼座排列，这可能会让你感到如释重负、非常解放。在过去的几个月中，我们看到这两位艺术家的成长也是如此，所以我超级兴奋。我们就直接开始吧。让我们介绍第一位参赛者，兔先生。兔先生。兔先生。哦天哪。这一点也不令人意外，对你们也一样，因为我对足球一无所知。只有爱国者队出现在超级碗的时候，我才知道一些事情，因为我住在新英格兰。

And if you don't know that the Patriots are playing in the Super Bowl and you live in New England, you can't say that publicly. Like I'm just saying for everybody like locally to me, like I knew the Patriots were playing it. I even know they have a new quarterback. Like that's big for me. So appreciate it and love it. But when we didn't, so we didn't wind up watching this live, but a friend texted me and said, you have got to watch that half-time show. You should go on YouTube and watch it. And it blew me out of the fucking water. Excuse me for just dropping the F bomb right now, but like it blew me out of the fucking water. Happy Saturday morning, y'all.

如果你住在新英格兰却不知道爱国者队在打超级碗，那么你可不能在公开场合说出来。比如说，就像我们当地的人一样，我知道爱国者队参赛了，我甚至知道他们有了一个新四分卫。对我来说，这可是个大新闻。所以我很感激，也很喜欢。不过呢，那场比赛我们并没有看直播，但有个朋友给我发短信说，你一定得看那个中场秀。去 YouTube 上看看吧。结果真是让我大吃一惊。不好意思，我居然爆了个粗口，但真的让我震惊不已。祝大家周六早上愉快！

Yeah. Yeah. Good morning, everybody. It's your wake up call with Alex. Yeah. But I think it was like such a good interesting thing. That's that was the end of his Saturn return was in one week winning the Grammy for best album. And also performing at the Super Bowl half-time show in the most viewed Super Bowl half-time show in history. That's not what we're thinking when we're thinking Saturn return, especially in this like Malefic situation he's got up there with Mars and Saturn and the Sun and Pisces. Important note right. up top, untimed chart. So the moon may be in Aquarius. That's not something I ever totally feel comfortable commenting on because we don't know celebrities real lives. We don't know Mr. Bunnies. Life story or private emotional processing power. I suspect he has the Aquarius moon. He just gives me those vibes. I just have like a little whiff of that. But we could never say for sure because we don't know him.

好的，好的。大家早上好。这是你的叫醒服务，我是Alex。是的，我觉得这是一个非常有趣的事情。他的土星回归结束时的一周内，他赢得了格莱美最佳专辑奖，还在有史以来收视率最高的超级碗中场秀中表演。当我们想到土星回归时，并不总会想到这样的事情，尤其是他在星盘上有火星、土星和太阳落在双鱼座的这种看似不吉利的配置。这里有个重要的注意点，星盘时间不确定，所以月亮可能在水瓶座。这是我不敢完全就此发表评论的东西，因为我们不了解名人的真实生活，我们不知道Mr. Bunny的生活故事或私人情感处理能力。我怀疑他有水瓶座月亮，因为他给我的感觉就是这样的。我有一点这样的直觉，但我们永远无法确定，因为我们不了解他。

But like what a cool Saturn return story. And I think that there is such a unsung part of the Saturn return that is in a demonstration of mastery or a demonstration of excellence. Like we saw that with we see that a lot actually I see that a lot in Saturn returns is like if you have lived a Malefic Saturn experience and you've been doing all of that stuff and all of that work, the Saturn return you often end up on the other side with an improvement in your life in that area. Yeah it's so interesting to look at this chart and I have the same sort of spidey sense that you do as well. Alexandra that even though I don't know bad bunny super well, even in the public, I really have just become familiar with bad bad bunny recently. But I also have that because I feel like that Aquarius Mercury is strong and it feels like there could be the moon Mercury conjunction thing happening.

这真是一个很酷的土星回归故事。我认为土星回归中有一个常常被忽视的部分，那就是展示卓越或证明自己掌握了某种技能。我们经常能看到这样的情况，尤其是在土星回归中，如果你经历了一个具有挑战性的土星期，并且在这段时间内进行了大量的努力和工作，经过土星回归，你往往会在生活的某个领域得到改善。 看这个星盘真的很有趣，我也有和你一样的直觉。虽然我对Bad Bunny不是很熟悉，最近才开始了解，但我也有这种感觉，因为我觉得他水瓶座的水星表现得很强势，而且可能会有月亮和水星合相的现象发生。

And I think that like you said, this is such a powerful way to reframe the Saturn return. But also this man's son is at 19 degrees Pisces. He has been living through Saturn over his not to mention Neptune over his son, right? And the son we can think of in astrology as the purpose, the path we move on toward life, the plotline of our life. And isn't it amazing that we have seen his the plotline of his life expanding as that Saturn return clears? And they think that that's just such a beautiful reframe of that experience, right? That the Saturn return experience is really meant to help us move through the challenges so we can reach that next level. And I think that's absolutely what bad bunny did just in the one month of February, right? What a big month. Can you imagine winning three Grammys including the album of the year and then going on to just own the Super Bowl half-time show?

我认为，就像你说的那样，这确实是一种强有力的方式来重新定义土星回归。而且这个人的太阳在双鱼座19度，他经历了土星过境他的太阳，更不用说海王星也过境他的太阳。而在占星学中，太阳可以被视为我们的生活目的、迈向生活的道路以及我们人生的主线。随着他的土星回归清除障碍，他人生主线的扩展不是很神奇吗？我认为这对那种经历来说是一种很美好的重新定义，即土星回归的经历实际上是帮助我们跨越挑战以达到下一个层级。而我认为兔牙（Bad Bunny）在二月份所做的事情正是这样的，仅仅一个月的时间。能想象得到吗？在那个月，他赢得了三项格莱美大奖，包括年度专辑，然后继续主导超级碗中场秀。真是一个重要的月份！

Like what a statement that was to such a Venus and Aries statement out of that? What do you think Alex? I mean, I was like 135 million viewers views of that half-time show. Like what the, you know, that's just wild. I think yeah, exactly what you guys are saying, you know, Saturn on the Sun too can feel a little bit like, let me say it this way, Saturn return with Saturn coming off of a conjunction to the Sun could feel like, oh, my light is in the world in a big way, it has felt like all of a sudden it's being released.

这段话的意思是：“那真是一种典型的‘金星在白羊座’的表达，对吧？你怎么看，Alex？我想说的是，那个中场秀有1.35亿的观众观看率。天哪，这真是疯狂。我觉得完全同意你们所说的。另外，土星跟太阳的结合感觉有点像这样：土星回归时，与太阳的结合就像是‘我的光芒在世上突然被释放出来’。”

And the Saturn return, I think, you know, I've had whenever I have clients going through their first Saturn return in particular, and in particular when they know about astrology because there's some anxiety around it, I'm saying, this is a refining movement for you to step more into being who you're meant to be as an adult with a great deal of responsibility and power. And I think that Saturn, this is a really amazing example of a Saturn return in that context because we think of it as Saturn coming along and limiting things and stopping things and making things not happen. When in fact, Saturn is sort of like gently kind of corralling you into your pathway, right? If you're not already there, you're like, if you're not already there, Saturn was just kind of like, we're going to end you over here because you're supposed to be on this road.

土星回归，我认为，当我的客户经历他们第一次土星回归时，特别是那些对占星学有所了解的客户，会感到一些焦虑。我告诉他们，这是一个精炼的过程，可以让你更多地成为作为一个成年人应有的自己，拥有大量的责任和力量。土星回归常被认为是限制和阻碍，但实际上，土星更像是温和地引导你走上正确的道路。如果你还没有走在那条路上，土星就会轻柔地把你引导到你应该走的道路上。

This is actually, it's a little bit like you're feeling like you were unfocused in some way and also in your focus. Now, I don't know if that was his his his experience or not. I'm saying this is general with the Saturn return. This strikes me as looking at Saturn in a multi-dimensional way where Saturn also has its other face that looks out towards infinite expansion. And when you move through all of those sorts of limiting Saturn ideas in whatever way you do, and I'm not sure if this is a story or not, we're talking generally about the Saturn return here. There was a feeling of the sky's the limit. I'm moving on in an unlimited way beyond that. Absolutely. Beautiful tie-in to the Jupiter and Scorpio, ruling all of this in a trying formation. Trying is an amplifying and also expansive aspect. Jupiter is the planet of expansion.

这实际上有点像你在某种程度上感到有些分心，同时又集中注意力。我不知道这是否是他的经验，我只是说这种感觉通常与土星回归有关。这让我觉得可以从多维度看待土星，土星也有另一面，那就是面向无限扩展的那一面。当你以任何方式突破所有这些限制性的土星观念时，不确定这是不是一个故事，我们这里是泛指土星回归，人们会有一种"天空是极限"的感觉。在这之后，我正在以一种无限制的方式前进。这绝对可以与冥王星在天蝎座的木星联系起来，因为木星与冥王星成三分相，三分相是一种放大和扩展的影响。木星是扩展的行星。

I'm so struck by how in his work, he always has one foot in Puerto Rico, always one foot firmly planted and not just in his personal life story. It's in this ancestral lineage that he has decided to situate himself into. And we even hear that in what you're saying, Alex, like some of the wins that he's had during this period. For example, the Grammy win was like the first Spanish language album to ever win album of the year at the Grammys. And he created that album in a long lineage of music history. Every song references other artists that he grew up listening to or that people who are from Puerto Rico or maybe from other principal Latin America would know well by name. And he even mentions Willikolom by name in some of these songs.

我对他的作品中表现出的这种风格非常震撼，他总是将一只脚稳稳地踩在波多黎各，不仅仅是展现在他个人的生活故事中，也根植于他选择安身的祖先血脉中。亚历克斯，你说的那些事迹中我们也能感受到这一点，比如他在这段时间取得的一些成就。例如，他的专辑赢得了格莱美年度专辑奖，成为首张获此殊荣的西班牙语专辑。他在创作这张专辑时融入了悠久的音乐历史传统。每首歌都提到了他成长过程中听过的其他艺术家，或者是那些波多黎各乃至拉丁美洲的主要人物，也许你都能熟知其名字。他甚至在一些歌中直接提到了Willikolom的名字。

And it's just like a really interesting ancestral piece that I think comes into play with that Jupiter North Node Pluto, training all of that. Yeah, I feel like that ancestry piece also gets at a piece of Pisces that we kind of talk about. Pisces as a double-bodied sign can be so serious and so silly at the same time. And so a lot of what critics will focus on when they talk about Bad Bunny's work is like he's talking about going to the club or he's talking about, you know, frivolous silly things. Some things I certainly can't mention on this channel are coming directly to mind, piping directly to mind. Of course. Essentially he's like, you know, if your boyfriend doesn't bite flowers come over all by flowers, but that's a euphemism.

这段话主要是在讨论一个有趣的祖先传承及其与木星、北交点、冥王星相关的影响。我觉得这种祖先传承还触及到双鱼座的一部分特性。双鱼座作为一个双重特质的星座，它可以同时既严肃又滑稽。所以，当评论家们谈论Bad Bunny的作品时，常常会强调他在唱关于去夜店或者一些看似轻浮的事情。有些事情我在这个频道上就不方便详细说了，当然。其中的一部分内容类似于："如果你的男朋友不送花给你，那就来我这儿，我送你花"，但这只是一个委婉的说法。

And it's it's like funny because it's this Piscy and goofball thing. He's very goofy. But then you see this absolute rock of Saturn. Sometimes that fog clears away and you're like, oh my gosh, no, he's absolutely for real. This exists. There's all of these reasons he's using slang and elevating slang to this level. There are sort of motivations and philosophical underpinnings for being goofy in the ways that he's being goofy. I think that's super interesting about him. Yeah, I totally I totally see that tie in and obviously we're looking at a great big watertry in here and that is a whole other level intensity, right? Intensity of feeling intensity of emotion.

这段话可以翻译成中文如下： 这很有趣，因为他有着双鱼座式的滑稽和傻气。他非常搞笑。但有时你会看到他就像一座坚如磐石的土星。当迷雾散去时，你会恍然大悟，原来他是认真的，确实存在这种情况。用俚语并将其提升到这个高度有许多原因。他以这种滑稽的方式表现得滑稽，是有某种动机和哲学基础的。我觉得这点非常有趣。是的，我完全看到这一点，我们显然在讨论一个巨大的水相三角，这又是另一种层次的强烈情感，对吧？感情的强烈，情绪的强烈。

And so doesn't it make sense that the intensity of emotion is going to be both in the goofy joyful playful side and the darker side, right? He has Mars conjunct his Saturn here. And you know, Pisces is a very artful creative place not to mention connected and compassionate. And what we saw at the Super Bowl was a like billboard sized advertisement of the way that he does, excuse me, incorporate political messaging and you know, fighting back about against things like domestic violence in his music in combination with the more goofy slang driven things as well, right? And I think that that Mars there says that not only is his art, his statement, it is also the weapon that he needs to use, right?

所以，这不是很有道理吗？情感的强度既会体现在滑稽、欢乐、玩乐的一面，也会体现在较阴暗的一面，对吧？在他的星盘中，火星与土星相合。而且，双鱼座是一个非常具有艺术性和创造力的星座，更不用说它还富有联系性和同情心。在超级碗期间，我们看到的就像是一条巨大的广告牌，展示了他如何将政治信息融入他的音乐中，比如反对家庭暴力，与此同时，他的音乐中也包含了更加滑稽、口语化的元素，对吧？我觉得，那里的火星不仅表明他的艺术作品是他对外的声明，它也是他需要使用的武器，对吧？

And I one of the lines he used in his acceptance of album of the year said that if we fight, we have to do it with love. And I think that that presents the polarity of the Pisces experience. But I think it's also again really illustrative of that Venus in Areas as well, isn't it? Yeah, absolutely. I think, you know, what you were describing with me can't get more Scorpio Pisces either. Yeah, it's like that's that if there was ever an example, like you want to take a textbook and write about the astrology of that, you would basically write something just like what you got you guys were just talking about.

在他接受年度专辑奖时，他有一句话提到，如果我们要战斗，就必须用爱来进行。我认为这体现了双鱼座经历的对立面。但我想这也很好地说明了金星在白羊座的影响，不是吗？是的，绝对是。我觉得你描述的内容也非常符合天蝎和双鱼的特质。如果要找一个例子，把这当成教科书来写关于这段经历的占星学分析，你们刚才讨论的内容基本上就是一个很好的范例。

I mean, it's perfectly exemplified there. I guess a fascinating chart. It's a lot of what it's a lot more water than I was expecting. That's kind of why I'm like, it's got to be almost got to be an Aquarius. Yeah, I really feel. I know, I'm kind of feeling that too. But so we this was, you know, an amazing Pisces to look at with Mr. Bunny. Now should we look at contestant number two? Oh my goodness. Okay. So the reason I thought of the Connor stories, so talk about somebody who is having a moment. I'm just kind of shocked at how heated rivalry blew up. Just just from my perspective as a gay man, I was like, I just didn't expect it to become as massive as it has become. I'm curious what you got. I have my thoughts. I'm curious about you guys think about this chart, the whole, this whole thing because this is really cool and interesting. I think it's Alexander Alexander. You know you want to know you want to also you literally did a whole podcast. I did.

我的意思是，它在那里得到了完美的体现。我觉得那张图表很吸引人。出乎我意料的是，水元素比我想象中的多很多。这就是为什么我会认为它几乎肯定有水瓶座的特征。我真的这么觉得。我也有这种感觉。不过，这次我们真的是在和马不停蹄一起看一个非常精彩的双鱼座案例。现在我们该看看第二位参赛选手吗？天哪，好吧。让我想到Connor的故事，谈到一个正在经历高光时刻的人。我很惊讶于那场激烈的对抗是怎么爆发的。作为一个同性恋者的角度来看，我真的没想到它会变得如此庞大。我很想知道你们怎么看待这张图表，以及这个现象。因为这真的很酷，也很有趣。我想应该是Alexander。你知道你想了解，你甚至还专门做了一个播客。

I did. Yeah. Two hours on Alexander's channel. I did. I have a two hour special. If you guys want to go check it out, I primarily focused on the characters of Shane and Ilya because we have canonical birthdays from them. I think Rachel Reed knows some things about astrology, but I did talk about Connor story, Hudson Williams, Jacob Tierney, Rachel Reed. I talked about the whole crew. So go check that out. We even talked about the director of photography, Jackson Perrell and the costume director. Like it's a whole thing. I think this chart is really interesting. The first thing that jumps out at me is that I just always, I think for the rest of my life, I will reach for this chart in defense of Mercury and Pisces specifically. Because that Mercury and Pisces is retrograde in fall in detriment.

我做了。对，在亚历山大的频道上，我录制了两个小时。我做了一个两个小时的特别节目。如果你们有兴趣，可以去看看，我主要关注的是Shane和Ilya这两个角色，因为我们有他们的官方生日信息。我认为Rachel Reed对占星术了解一些东西，但我也谈到了Connor的故事、Hudson Williams、Jacob Tierney、Rachel Reed。我讨论了整个团队。所以你们可以去看看。我们甚至还聊到了摄影指导Jackson Perrell和服装指导。这个节目内容很丰富。我觉得这个星座图非常有趣，给我的第一个印象是，这辈子我一定会用这个星座图来为水星在双鱼座辩护。因为水星在双鱼座是逆行的，处于失势和弱势状态。

I just have so many clients and so many people who use dignity as a way to self limit. Perhaps unwittingly, but they're like, you know my Mercury's retrograde and Pisces. So I can't do blank. I can't do this. Connor story learned Russian in two weeks to the extent that people on set thought he was Russian, to the extent that most of us thought he was Russian before we googled and found out he was like born in maybe Colorado or Texas or whatever. Don't tell me that Mercury and Pisces even in retrograde is a limiting factor. That's totally a limiting belief. So I think he has a really interesting relationship to language and obviously art and poetry and it comes from a long lineage of beautiful orders and writers with Mercury and Pisces. I'm also really struck by he's always talking about being an optimistic nihilist. That's a phrase that he's used in so many interviews and I think that's got to be a Pisces tagline.

我有很多客户，他们常常用“尊严”来限制自己。也许是无意的，但他们会说，因为我的水星逆行在双鱼座，所以我不能做某件事。我想起Connor的故事，他在两周内学会了俄语，甚至让剧组的人都以为他是俄罗斯人。很多人都以为他真的是俄罗斯人，直到我们上网查到他可能生在科罗拉多或德克萨斯这样的地方。别告诉我水星逆行在双鱼座会限制你，那只是一个限制信念。我认为他和语言之间有种很有趣的关系，显然也和艺术和诗歌有关，这种能力传承自一个优秀演说家和作家的家族。我还特别注意到他常自称乐观的虚无主义者，这是他在许多采访中用过的短语，我觉得这必须是双鱼座的标志。

Top five Pisces tagline, optimistic nihilist. Don't you guys think especially Mercury's square de Pluto Kyron in Sagittarius? That says that to me absolutely. I'm like Jupiter Saturn conjunction, the great conjunction. I'm an optimistic nihilist. I'm both it's like yeah. Yeah I love I love how we can use Connor's Mercury as the perfect example of why the dignity scheme is not like a formula plus minus yes no kind of a system right because there is so much skill in creative communication that he displays with this Mercury retrograde in Pisces. Now what I think is really interesting is that's certainly part of the piece that lends to his acting prowess right the ability to put on a different identity for a hot moment, literally a hot moment and you know we I know sorry I just have to say this man okay if we put him in a tie-dye shirt and a hemp necklace Whitney at 16 years old what have been drooling Whitney's still drooling but a hemp necklace with a cocky hair oh Jesus it's too much I know I know I can't I I can't forget my past it is part of me.

前五名双鱼座的标语：乐观的虚无主义者。你们不觉得特别是水星与冥王星的刑相，还有在射手座的凯龙星的影响吗？对我来说绝对有这样的感觉。我就像是木星和土星的合相，就是所谓的“大合相”。我是一个乐观的虚无主义者，我是这样的人。我喜欢我是这样的人。我喜欢我们可以用康纳的水星作为一个完美的例子来说明尊严体系并不是一种公式化、加减法、对错的系统，因为他在创意沟通方面展现了很多技巧，他的水星逆行在双鱼座中。让我觉得有趣的是，这显然是他表演才能的一部分，可以在瞬间完美地切换身份。哦，对不起，我必须得说，如果让他穿上扎染的T恤和一条麻制项链，像16岁的惠特尼那样，惠特尼当时肯定会爱慕不已。其实即便现在看到他穿这样也会心动，还有那种狂傲的发型，真是太吸引人了。我记得不住我的过去，它是我生命的一部分。

But back back to the point we know a distractions about with this young man but just the act of acting right creating fiction and I've said this I've said this right that like it's not that Mercury in Pisces makes for a liar it is literally the creation of a different reality that is such a skill for the Mercury in Pisces we know some of our most prolific writers and artists and actors have this placement musicians as well right and because of that deeply feeling nature it's like it channels into people's hearts this ability to truly truly feel and he is such a good actor I can't help but also look at this gorgeous Venus Neptune conjunction with the South node in Aquarius right this the passion that he carries with his performance this other worldly sense of feeling and this like desired driven creativity it feels so resonant with that placement.

回到正题，我们知道这个年轻人可能会分心，但是他的表演行为，特别是创造虚构作品，我已经多次提到过，不是说水星在双鱼座让人变成骗子，而是他们具备创造不同现实的能力。这种能力对于水星在双鱼座的人来说是一种技能。我们有很多多产的作家、艺术家和演员都拥有这种配置，音乐家也一样。因为他们能够深刻地感受世界，就像能把这种感受传达给观众，让人们真正感受得到。而他正是一位优秀的演员，我还注意到他有美丽的金星和海王星与水瓶座南交点的合相，这种合相为他的表演带来了激情，带来了超凡脱俗的感情，还有一种受欲望驱动的创造力，这与他的配置非常契合。

It's it's so interesting because I think if we if we're talking about the dignities of this chart right it would be very easy because since we're talking about how we shouldn't like dignities limit us or be a limiting belief on us you could look at this chart you see Mars and Eri's and say oh Mars is the strongest planet in this chart right because Mars is in its dominoes the strongest planet in this chart is Venus is Venus is a Venus is responsible for Jupiter and Saturn Venus the Mercury Mercury and the Sun are both in Venus' exaltation and she rolls the moon as well as she rolls the moon as well exactly so Venus is really really powerful in this chart.

这真的很有趣，因为如果我们讨论这个星盘中的尊贵性，那么这会很容易，因为我们在讨论我们不应该让尊贵性限制自己或成为我们的限制性信念时，你可能会看到这个星盘中的火星落在白羊座，然后说哦，火星是这个星盘中最强的行星，因为火星在它的主导位置中。但实际上，这个星盘中最强的行星是金星。金星掌管木星和土星，水星和太阳都在金星的高贵位置，而金星也掌管月亮。因此，金星在这个星盘中真的非常强大。

And there's something also about the water element and the Neptune element that he brought into Ilias character in a really interesting way and I noticed it in the first episode where you know if I had to give Ilias astrology I would say he has a Piscesum with a Scorpion that's the first two things I would think about with him right and this is sense of like it's a water seduction meaning he's all of a sudden in what's the other guy say Shane Shane space like he's all of a sudden he's just a little bit too close to him like so it's a little bit like of those first moments where they're sort of like beginning the sort of dance he has this way of like very it was very water just kind of like all of a sudden just a little bit close and then he backs away not a little bit closer.

在《伊利亚斯》这个角色中，他以一种非常有趣的方式融入了水元素和海王星元素。我注意到了在第一集中，当我给伊利亚斯的星座打分时，我会说他像是拥有双鱼座和天蝎座特质。这让我首先想到他的两个特征：一种特殊的水元素魅力，让他突然间出现在另一个人沙恩的私人空间里，有点太近了。这是一种类似于初次接触的互动，他们开始像是一场舞蹈。他展现出一种非常水的方式，突然间靠近一点，然后再往后退一点。

That's why I know I think he's like this is so water this is such and it's so easily done and I don't know how much you know he brought his personal sensibilities into what he was playing with Ilias but it's such an example of Venus and Neptune plus some strong Pisces placements where it's like all of a sudden like a fog it just appears like all of a sudden it's just there and um you know both of them really blew me away with with what they were doing in that show um it was it was pretty remarkable to see.

这就是为什么我知道我觉得他这种表现就像水一样，事情发生得如此轻而易举。我不知道他在和Ilias的合作中投入了多少个人感受，但这简直就是金星和海王星加上强烈的双鱼座配置的一个例子，就像突然间一阵雾气出现，一切都变得模糊不清。他们两人在那个表演中的表现真的让我大吃一惊，这场秀真是太让人惊叹了。

I think Connor's ability to shape shift is something that we can touch on here with this Pisces son a mutable son and with Mercury so flexible here Whitney you were kind of touching on this in Alex you too he is on there there are only a couple moments in the entire show where you can even see Connor story in that performance like he really is unrecognizable when he's in that Iliamode and in some interviews he's playfully gone in and out of that and you can watch his physiology of his face change when he goes into that mode he's a different person.

我认为康纳的变形能力是我们可以在这里讨论的一个话题，因为他作为双鱼座，属于变动宫，而水星在这里也很灵活。惠特妮，你也稍微提到了这点，亚历克斯也是。他在这段表演中几乎是无法辨认的，整部剧中只有少数时刻你能看出康纳的故事。比如在扮演伊利亚模式时，他真的就像变了一个人。在一些采访中，他还会调皮地在这种状态之间切换，你可以看到他的脸部表情在进入这种模式时会发生变化，他就像是完全变了一个人。

I think that the Mars in Aries and his cardinal moon but definitely that Mars in Aries is so strong in giving him somewhere to direct it like I wonder who this person becomes without that ability to put this somewhere that shape shifting you need something cardinal you need somewhere to put that and he has acting for example like this is a channel in which to put that but as a mutable son I'm like I don't even know who I am on a daily basis thank god I have something cardinal something to direct it and do with it because otherwise I would just be floating changing morphing amoeba you know on a daily basis.

我认为他的火星在白羊座，以及他的基本宫月亮，特别是火星在白羊座，让他有一个明确的方向去释放能量。我很好奇，如果他没有这种能力去将能量导向某个地方，他会变成什么样。像他这样需要变幻自如的人，真的需要一个坚实的目标去投入能量。他有表演这样的途径来实现这种能量的释放。而作为变动宫太阳星座的人，我每天都不确定自己是谁。幸好我也有一个明确的目标去指引和使用我的能量，否则我可能每天就像一个漂浮、变化的变形虫一样。

Alex I think you have I think we all kind of have like an interesting interplay between the cardinal parts of us and the mutable parts of us on this show yeah absolutely in the way that you know the way Conor's channels that performance that mutability of performance channel is a good word for that yes exactly it is.

亚历克斯，我觉得你，我觉得我们大家都有一个有趣的互动，在我们性格中坚定不移的部分和灵活多变的部分之间。是的，没错，比如康纳在这个节目中展示的那种灵活表现，他很擅长在演出中转换角色。"转换"这个词用得很好，确实如此。

I mean his Mars is opposite the moon to there is a deeply felt intuitive mind body connection there as well and you know it's not lost on me that of course he plays this amazing all-star athlete in heated rivalry but before he was a performer he was also a gymnast right he has that athlete background and so I think we see that come through here as well.

我的意思是，他的火星对冲月亮，所以他有一种深刻的、直觉的身心联结。而且，我当然注意到，他扮演的是一位在激烈竞争中的明星运动员，但在成为演员之前，他也是一名体操运动员，对吧？他有运动员的背景，我认为这在他的表现中也有所体现。

I mean I think if we're if we're looking at his Pisces stelium and keeping in mind that both of the charts that we're talking about here are untimed we're really working with planet placements not angles so you can disregard the MC there but I was so excited to see him as a torch bearer along with Shane what what's Shane's real name I forgot. Hudson Williams the best are embarrassing me I know I'm embarrassing you that that they were both torch bears for the winter Olympics here in the opening ceremony and isn't that so cool like the process that both of them went through as actors and just bursting out onto the scene in these breakout roles and then to have that pivotal point on a world stage in a whole other way as all of the planets were moving through his stelium in Aquarius I just think that's a really cool illustration of that growth and that visibility yeah you can see it actually in the video I did on my channel.

我意思是，如果我们看他在双鱼座的星群，并且考虑到我们正在讨论的这两张星盘都是没有具体时间的，我们实际上是在研究行星的位置而不是角度，所以你可以忽略天顶点（MC）。我很激动地看到他和Shane一起担任火炬手——Shane的真名是什么来着？我忘记了。哦，Hudson Williams。他们是冬奥会开幕式的火炬手，这真的很酷。他们两人在演员之路上的经历，以及他们如何凭借突破性的角色走向舞台焦点，然后在全球舞台上，以一种全新的方式达到这个关键点，尤其是当所有行星在他的水瓶座星群中运行时。我认为这是对他们成长和能见度的一个很酷的展示。你其实可以在我频道上的视频中看到这一点。

We looked more closely at Hudson Williams and Jacob Tierney's chart um Jacob Tierney the show creator has Jupiter at 29 Leo let's just mic drop the okay right good luck and he hasn't even hit the Jupiter return yet which is so cool because I'm like more is coming Hudson Williams same thing um this clearly showed up because he has early he was born just after Connor so his Jupiter is in early Gemini so those Uranus oppositions that happened over October November literal overnight fame. I think the cool part about looking at Rachel Reed and Connor my dear close personal friend Connor stories chart is that it's clear that there's more coming there's more coming for all of these people like it's not a story that ends right here because especially we look at that five degree Venus Neptune that's right where that's opposite that Jupiter because he had five degrees and Leo opposite Pluto in the moon right there there's a lot more coming and that I think is one of the most exciting things to come from all of this maybe not totally astrological but I see this as being related to Pluto in Aquarius because so much of the discourse around the casting of these two men in the show has been I'm so tired of seeing the same 10 actors and I am so grateful for seeing real non-famous people being elevated and being given these chances.

我们仔细研究了哈德森·威廉姆斯和雅各布·蒂尔尼的图表。雅各布·蒂尔尼，这个节目的创作者，木星位于狮子座29度，这真是一个很了不起的星位点。而且他还没有经历过木星回归，这真是太酷了，因为这意味着他未来会有更多的发展。哈德森·威廉姆斯也是如此，因为他出生在康纳之后不久，所以他的木星位于双子座初期。去年十月和十一月发生的天王星对冲，几乎一夜之间带来了他的名声。 对于雷切尔·里德和我亲爱的朋友康纳的星图来说，最有趣的部分就在于，显然他们未来还有更多的发展。这不是一个就此结束的故事。特别是当我们看到位于金星和海王星五度对冲木星的位置时，他的星图中正好有狮子座五度对冲冥王星和月亮。在未来，还有更多的事情会发生。我认为这也是最令人兴奋的部分。 虽然这可能不完全是一个星相学的看法，但我认为这可以与冥王星在水瓶座的影响有关。因为关于这两位演员在剧中角色的讨论中，经常提到的一个观点是观众已经厌倦了一再看到同样的十个演员。因此，观众非常感激能够看到真正的非著名演员获得提升和机会。

So I feel like that's kind of an underlying cultural thing that we're in right now is giving these acting opportunities or just cultural elevations to celebrity to people who aren't the same 10 male actors in Hollywood and you know honestly and I said at the beginning I was so surprised at how much the show has blown up because you know I grew up in a time where you didn't see shows about gay romance or gay achieve any sort of really big thing and Quiris spoke to it in the early 2000s to a certain degree and that was still like cult it was so cult exactly and you know and it was definitely like the old work yeah yeah as you know the show but it was really amazing to me to see like oh it's not just like the queer community watching this show it's like everybody's watching this show and.

我觉得我们目前正在经历一种文化趋势，就是不再只给好莱坞的那10个男演员提供表演机会或文化提升，而是让更多人有机会成为明星。说实话，我一开始非常惊讶这个节目的爆红。因为我成长的时代，很少看到关于同性恋爱情的节目能取得任何真正大的成就。虽然在2000年代早期，《Queer as Folk》在某种程度上实现了这一点，但那时它仍然属于小众文化。而现在，令我感到惊讶和欣慰的是，这部剧不仅仅是同性恋群体在观看，而是每个人都在关注。

I think that was really pleasantly surprising to me I'm like wow this is something that's transcending some there's a transcending quality of this show that I I hadn't anticipated when I first thought I thought the two of them did a great job and I was very moved by a lot of it but I think that you're kind of like tying it back into the bad bunny of it all as well yeah because there is a transcendent quality and that's so pacien to his work he's the first Spanish language album to win a Grammy of the year a album of the year Grammy and a primarily in Spanish super bowl performance I was moved by the fact that he brought Ricky Martin up and I was thinking about how not that long ago in my lifetime anything Spanish language was considered breakout or global music right and now we've come so far in such a short amount of time to where we are understanding can transcend language which feels very piscian very piscis that's the transcendent quality of piscis which is always looking to do that you know and.

我觉得这真的是让我感到非常惊喜，我心想，哇，这是一种让我在最初没有预料到的超越性的东西。我认为他们两人做得非常出色，很多地方都让我感动。但我觉得你也在把事情和Bad Bunny联系在一起，因为他的作品中也有这种超越的特质。他是第一个凭借主要以西班牙语专辑获得年度格莱美奖和主要以西班牙语的超级碗表演艺术家。我被他请Ricky Martin上台的举动感动了，我在想，在我有生之年，不久之前，任何西班牙语的东西都被认为是突破或全球音乐。而现在，我们在短时间内取得了这么大的进步，达到了一种语言之外的理解，这种感觉非常像双鱼座，总是希望超越语言障碍。

I don't know I wish them both success because you know obviously too extraordinarily talented talented let us manifest for you boys continue yes continue success oh my god that Venus Neptune's conjunction look at just great with that July stuff I'm serious I mean I try not to get to like para social and dig into I just think it's like a little unethical how much knowledge we really have as astrologers when we can see pupils charts like this so I try not to do too much of it but I'm like oh my gosh you guys just gonna get your time to keep growing and keep getting famous good for you yeah on the way up that is for sure.

我不知道，但我希望他们俩都成功。你知道，他们显然都是非常有才华的人。让我们为你们继续努力加油，是的，继续取得成功。哦，我的天啊，那金星和海王星的合相在七月的影响简直太棒了。我是认真的，我尽量不太过关注社会关系或者深入研究别人的事，但作为一个占星师，我们能看到人们的星盘，掌握的知识真的很多。我尽量不研究太多，但我想说，天哪，你们会继续成长，会越来越出名，这对你们来说真是太好了。你们肯定是在上升期。

Well this has been super fun to dig into these two charts next month's spoiler alert you guys is Lady Gaga she's she's an airy's third year of Lady Gaga and we'll find someone else. Mr. Bunny is a huge Lady Gaga fan actually when she showed up when when I was like he's that it's Lady Gaga singing on the right right and I had that and then we're Ricky Martin showed up and like his Ricky Martin is Ricky Martin goes back to AOL messenger and WWW okay so I was for a second I'm like who is this can be I'm like oh my god is that Ricky Martin I'm not this he sounded incredible as well it's looked incredible he's sound it incredible I was like god damn Ricky Martin living Levy to Loka she's right my little teen heartthrob is going I know I know so it was interesting it was really that was a really really cool experience to see.

好吧，这次深入研究这两张图表真是太有趣了。下个月的剧透给大家：是Lady Gaga，这是Lady Gaga的第三年，我们会找到其他人。Bunny先生其实是Lady Gaga的超级粉丝，当她出现的时候，我就觉得是她。对面那边是Lady Gaga在唱歌，对吧？然后当 Ricky Martin 出现的时候，我有点恍惚，差点没认出来。Ricky Martin的声音和表现都令人难以置信，让我很惊讶，我心想，天哪，那是Ricky Martin！他的声音真的很棒，表现也很出色。我心中的小偶像，那段时间真是让我无比激动。所以，这真是一次非常有趣的体验。

Anyways we were grateful for you guys for joining us again this week um ladies where can our viewers find you you can find me at the number nine nine lives astrology at you know nine lives astrology at com at nine lives astrology on instagram at nine lives astrology on tic-toc and I'm also on youtube all the time talking about all kinds of stuff like two hours of heat arrival or you talk go check that out um it was a really fun episode I did with my friends the kiosk that's where you can find me I love it shout out the kiosk um you can he's the best find me at astroarkana.com you can also find me here on youtube and over on instagram at astro.arkana.com on it dot astrology especially on youtube you might want to check out if you like these fun more casual conversations that aren't super technically driven I have been all about the astro style recently these episodes are where I combine my love for fashion and astrology and they're pretty cool so go check it out over there Alex what about you w-w-w you can find me at alixameroci.com how did that come off is that great beautiful so6.com so succinct so effervescent and it's just alixameroci.com you can find me on sub stack at the subtle universe um various levels of subscription uh in my free levels of subscription I do a a new infomine newsletter every month sometimes a video but usually newsletter um and that's where you can find me and all of my services lady if so good to hang out this was a really fun I was looking forward to this so fun really fun.

好的，感谢大家本周再次加入我们。女士们，观众朋友们可以在哪里找到你们呢？ 你可以在以下地方找到我：Nine Lives Astrology，网站是ninelivesastrology.com，在Instagram和TikTok上的账号都是ninelivesastrology。我还经常在YouTube上分享各种话题，比如一集特别有趣的视频是我和朋友们在The Kiosk一起录制的，两小时的热情讨论，大家可以去看一下。非常喜欢The Kiosk，强烈推荐！ 你可以找到我在astroarkana.com，以及在YouTube和Instagram上，账号是astro.arkana.com。在YouTube上如果你喜欢轻松有趣的对话，不那么技术性，可以去看看我最近结合时尚和占星的节目，超酷哦。 Alex，你呢？ 你可以在alixameroci.com找到我，网址简短而有趣，就是alixameroci.com。另外，我还在Substack上分享，叫做The Subtle Universe，在不同订阅级别中，每月我会发布免费的信息通讯，有时是视频，但通常是通讯。可以在这里找到我和我的服务。 真的很高兴能和大家在一起，这次真是超开心的期待，特别有趣！

Yeah all right we will see you next week everybody and have a good week have a great weekend bye bye you.

好的，那么我们下周见，祝大家周愉快，周末愉快，再见。