So this is Piscesces in celebrating Neptune. If this specific Piscescesen is unique, no? This happens only once in every few decades, is the planets Neptune and Saturn come together. So in this Piscescesen, while Neptune and Saturn are coming together, here we are celebrating Neptune together. For me, if someone says there's a Neptune, Saturn aspect in the sky, what does it mean? To me, that question is really a question about mundane astrology. It's what does it mean in the world? Because this is something that's going on and radiating for everyone. It becomes a personal question.
When someone has a planet, this conjunction is happening at zero or one degree of Aries. So anyone that has planets around zero degrees or one degree are experiencing this effect more personally. But there's also another piece. People that have Neptune strong in their chart, one way to think of it is they have an extra powerful radar to pick up Neptune energy in general. So all of us Neptune strong people are going to have a greater sensitivity to this Neptune Saturn conjunction, whether or not it's making an aspect to your trip.
But if it is making an aspect, you'll have more access to it. In my chart, I have the Sun at zero degrees, Gemini, so the Saturn Neptune is sextiling. And here I am. You know, my ninth house Sun is talking about the philosophy of Neptune. So that's how it's showing up for me. Amanda, I'll let you talk a little bit more about what you are doing. And I mean specifically with astrology, huh? And to me to connect what I said about Neptune to what I'm asking Amanda about right now is the fact that Amanda's Neptune is in the 10th house. Strongest planet in 10th house of her role in the community, her vocation, her calling.
So yeah, do you want to share a little bit of man about what you're doing, what you're doing in the world right now. Yes. Thank you, Ricky. It's so fun to be here. And I think this vision of bringing the strongest planet people together to learn from each other and to share stories is just brilliant. I love it. So I started astrology hub over 10 years ago. And it was born from, well, astrology came into my life at a very, very challenging moment as it is for most of us, right? I was going through many dark years of the soul and really on this search for purpose and meaning.
And so I had blown up my life. And in that blowing up of my life, I found astrology. And it became such a lifeline for me, such a lighthouse in the storm that I was given a very, very synchronicity opportunity to begin astrology hub. And it was one of those stories where you're like, really did that actually happen. And yes, it did. But essentially, it started out of my desire and passion and love of astrology and my desire to share the gift of astrology with as many people as possible. But specifically, what I felt was quality astrology.
What I felt was like actually helpful and useful astrology. I wanted to create a place where people could come and learn about that. And so it started basically as a podcast or a podcast YouTube channel didn't start on 2020. But I would just interview great astrologers and I would share that with people and people loved it. And so we just kept doing it more. And then eventually we started bringing these astrologers in like Ricky Williams to teach classes. We have a membership. So it's grown from there. But it really was this thing that, before I blew up my life, all I knew was that I wanted to do work that I was passionate about, that I felt was beneficial to people and that I felt used my gifts and talents.
I didn't know what that would look like. And I was living in New York City at the time. I ended up moving to Hawaii, moving my whole family to Hawaii and really floundering for many, many years until, like I said, until astrology came in and became this lighthouse and then astrology have came from that. Part of what I heard in Amanda's story was she had a vision. And the nature of a vision is when we first see it or we first, at the first appears, it's not always clear.
I mean, I compare Neptune to a dream and sometimes in the dream, we'll get a flash, but then when we come to our conscious mind, it's like it disappears. It goes away, but often we'll see the dream kind of comes back. And about the fifth time, it starts to become more clear. So another term that's often associated with Neptune is confusion. Right. And it's a tricky term because people that have a really good relationship with Neptune, the confusion doesn't really manifest as confusion. They'll just say, oh, this is Neptune with the knowledge that it'll become clear over time that the visions take time to coalesce and turn into something.
But it's a powerful motivating factor that motivates our behavior to move in a certain direction. And often, especially with Neptune, we won't have the clarity in astrological weather, Neptune rules fog. We don't have the clarity to actually see what's there, but if we keep on going and we hold the vision long enough, because again, it's a possibility. And if we can hold the vision long enough for other people to start to perceive the vision, then they can start to contribute their energy to that vision becoming real. Right. And that's what I mean when I say, an Neptune kind of, an Neptune kind of inspiration.
And the other thing is the word synchronicity. Right. In psychological circles, it's thrown around a lot and it's a cool word. And I think we can all relate to it. But there's another word that we don't really use as much. But I'm convinced they mean the same thing. Right. This word seems bigger. Right. And the word is miracles, miracles. Right. And when Amanda was sharing part of her story, you know, one of the things she said is those stories you have where it's like people don't believe them. Do that really happen? And the way she described it, the word she used was synchronicity.
And so it's, I believe that people that have powerful Neptune have more access to synchronicities. Right. And sometimes there's huge synchronicities and those are the ones that get tagged miracles. But at least for me and Lynne and I talked about this all the time. Because the more we study astrology, the more we notice synchronicities. And it's like, wow, wow, wow. And it's not always clear, Neptune is not always clear what it means. But you know, it means something, but you know it means something.
Okay. So and part of this, this bringing Amanda on is, Lynne and I came up with a couple of what I thought of as Neptune questions. And even though the answers might not sound Neptune, the nature of where the questions come from are Neptune. So it's a way to help us access, access Neptune. And as I ask these questions, please all of you, Neptuneians, allow yourself to ask yourself the same questions and see what comes up, see what comes up to the surface. Right.
One more word, Neptune word here is ideal and ideal. See me, that's, that's one of the higher expressions of Neptune is, is we have an ideal and it's so powerful that we're motivated to keep moving and working and progressing towards that ideal. But, but I think sometimes, especially going through the early parts of life, people poking holes in our visions and our dreams that it becomes sometimes difficult to access the energy of an ideal. Because as soon as we start to go to the ideal, what starts to come and do our mind for all the reasons why it can't happen, why it won't work, etc. And in those times, right, how precious are the synchronicities that only we notice that tell us our dream is valid and real and keep going in that direction.
Right. To me, this is an important skill if Neptune is your strongest planet. All right. So the first question I have and one of the things that Neptune rules is cinema, movie dreams, I mean movies because one of the things that movies show cinema does is it has the ability to capture our imagination. All right. Another Neptune word imagination. So first Neptune question for you, Amanda is, when you were a kid growing up, what was your favorite movie or your favorite television show? And if one jumps out, can you talk to us a little bit about it? It's so funny.
The one that jumps out immediately is field of dreams. It was my favorite. I loved field of dreams. I would watch it over and over. I just captured my imagination. It was I just I loved it. My brothers played baseball, you know, the whole thing. I just yeah. Yeah. All right. I think of that. And it's imagine right in your podcast, maybe one day we'll get there. You know, you could bring in Dan Roojar. You can bring old astrological greats. You know, yes. On the podcast and interview them and get their perspective. That would be you get field of dreams.
Field of dreams, Roman. Oh, well, and that just that if you build it, they will come. I mean, that has been such a guiding thought. Just that one thought if you build it, they will come. And I've done that many times. Sometimes it doesn't work. And sometimes it does. But it definitely is something that has stayed with me for sure. Yeah. And this is important in the Neptune journey. Sometimes it doesn't work. And sometimes it does. You know, I've noticed Neptune in the third and my way out there, woo, woo, crazy ideas, you know, when I was young, they were.
But as I've had more experience and more importantly, as I've studied spiritual things, yeah. Now when I speak those things, they hit more. They make more sense. They're more accurate because time and Neptune in order to really appreciate Neptune, like the slower moving planets, I think it, I think it takes time. Well, I also think Neptune is connected to music. The way music can capture our imagination. One point here about about music is. That Neptune is considered by some astrologers, the higher octave of Venus. The higher octave of Venus and Venus, like the personal connection and love. Now we're more receptive and open to people that we like. You know, Neptune gives that kind of openness and receptivity on a larger skin. So music.
So are there any songs, favorite songs that you have growing up or anything that comes to mind? Well, this one is kind of more recent. And but I fell in love with it in 2020. And it remains my favorite and such, such to the point that I've told my daughters at my graduation or my funeral someday that I want them to play this song. And it's called Saturn and it's by sleeping at last. And I just love this song. And for me, it so the sleeping at last, he's an astronomer. And he writes these songs for the planets and all kinds of things, not just planets, but the opening lyrics, you taught me the courage of stars before you left. How light carries on endlessly, even after death.
你成长过程中有没有特别喜欢的歌曲,或者有哪首歌让你印象深刻呢?我有一首歌比较新,是我在2020年爱上的。它现在仍是我最爱的歌,甚至对我来说意义非凡,以至于我告诉过我的女儿们,将来在我毕业典礼或葬礼上,我希望她们放这首歌。这首歌叫《Saturn》,由乐队Sleeping at Last演唱。我非常喜欢这首歌。Sleeping at Last的创作灵感来源于天文学,他为行星和其他事物创作歌曲。这首歌的开头歌词写得特别好:"你教会了我群星的勇气,然后你离去。光芒如何永久地传递,即便在死亡之后。"
With shortness of breath, you explained the infinite, how rare and beautiful it is to even exist. And it's just it's to this beautiful symphonic like I just I love this song so much. And fell in love with it with all those Saturn stuff happening in 2020. So I know it's not an ode to Neptune, but honestly, like it kind of is. And when you were talking about Saturn and Neptune being in cahoots before, I was like, oh, yeah, I mean, I feel that so strongly. And I always thought Saturn was my strongest planet because or my my ruling planet, right? Because I'm a Capricorn son, Capricorn Venus, Capricorn Mercury, Aquarius rising. It's like all Saturn, right? So when I learned Neptune was, it was like, oh my God, actually, that explains so much. And I love the way Saturn and Neptune can work together.
All right. So this is very much a 10-pound question, right? Is when you were a kid, what did you want to be when you grew up? A psychologist. My grandfather was a psychologist and I just adored him. And I wanted to do that too. And really it came from my deep question of who are we? And what are we doing here? And that was a guiding question. I can remember being 10 years old and looking in the mirror and looking in my eyes and asking that question, who are you? And I didn't get a response and I just leaned in closer and was like, no, really, who are you? And so that question led me to think I wanted to be a psychologist to exploring all the world religions. Like in college, I took as many world religion classes I could. And just really did a ton of exploration on that question and didn't feel like I got any answers until I found astrology. Astrology was where I went, oh my God, this is explaining more than anything has explained to me my entire life.
So that's what I wanted to be. Yeah. Okay. So I mean, that was that was easy, the obvious, you know, the religions and Sagittarius is the sign of religion. So that would definitely jumps out. Also, one of the things about the 10th house in our role in the community, do you see that part of what has to survive us growing up is our vision? And so do you see any part of that dream of a kid of being a psychologist? Do you see any of that being expressed through what you are doing? Oh my gosh, yes. Again, because now I get to be immersed in that, the answers to that question, who are you? Every single day. And I get to share that with people every single day. So it, it's a hunt. I thought it was psychology because that within my frame of reference was what might answer that question. But now I get to share astrology, which and was, you know, there's so much psychology in astrology as well. So yes.
Yeah, especially nowadays, it's so psychological. Yes. So the Neptune and Sagittarius, you mentioned a question of who are you and who are we and what are we doing here? Yeah, to me that that is a religious question. It's a religious question. And the Neptune part of it is the idea of you looked, you looked everywhere in the terrestrial world for that, for that answer. And it wasn't there. You couldn't find it until astrology came along. A symbolic system that allowed you to more easily perceive the essence of things that give you a more satisfactory answer to the question of who are we and why are we here? And we think of all of the people that are benefited from your ability and your willingness to carry that vision and carry that dream and Saturn, right? Figure out how to make it real. How to make it real.
So thank you. It's my pleasure. I mean, it's such a joy to be able to do it. Okay. Good. Next question. And this one is a tricky question because, like I said earlier, it's really tapping into the idea of an ideal, an ideal. And an ideal part of it is if we had a magic wand and we can wave it and change anything, you know, what would that be? And so the question is the way I'm wording it is, what is your wildest dream? Right? And I put wildest in there because the nature of Neptune, when we're really rubbing up against it, it brings a question of are people going to think I'm crazy? Are people going to think I'm crazy? So anything come up for you around the question of your wildest dream?
Well, I have this dream about, again, it's pretty vague, but it is this creation of heaven on earth. But each of us being that kind of center point of the heavens and earth. And so to me, through astrology, that is what we're doing. Like we're literally anchoring the celestial spheres in our bodies. And when we do that, when each of us does that, we are literally creating heaven on earth. And more than creating heaven on earth, I think we're just realizing it, that it's already here. It's like when I was in New York, and I was imagining some other life, I would have never imagined that I would be doing what I'm doing today. Like that was the furthest thing from my awareness. And I feel like most of the time I'm led by visions that way.
They're like pretty far away and kind of vague, but I can always sense the qualities of them. Like I can always name the way that they'll feel or the qualities that they have. But the actual form is not as clear, usually. Yeah, that sounds very much like Neptune. So we'll keep going. The next question is, that's the vision, but also Neptune can manifest as nightmares. And one example of this, and I think we're all guilty of this, of imagining something horrible happening, and spending valuable time worrying about something horrible happening that never happens. Because sometimes we think of all the pain and anguish we spent worrying about imagining something bad happening that couldn't actually happen.
So next question is, what is your worst nightmare? I mean, so there's the one of something happening to my children, which for sure, especially as a young mom, when I was a young mom, I would worry about that. And then I heard Burnet Brown giving a talk and talking about how if you find yourself in fear, the best thing to do is switch it to gratitude. So anytime I would be like standing over their crib and terrified, I would switch it to gratitude that they were there and gratitude that I got to be their mom. I think the other one, and this one I have worked on quite a bit in myself, I was terrified of leadership. And the way that I identified this, because I would always shy away from it or resist it, but I would end up being put in that position over and over.
And so I had a past life regression in which I experienced a lifetime in which I was some sort of general in a war. And I was on a battlefield and I looked out and everybody was dead. And I was the only one left. And I was about to take my own life because it was such a dishonor to be alive. And the final thought I had before I, sorry, this is kind of graphic, I was okay. But before I plunged the sword into my heart was, I led them the wrong way. And then I got to experience what it felt like to be out of the body. And the only thing I could feel and experience from that perspective was complete compassion for how blind and clueless we were and how, like, feudal the fighting was, but it was just pure compassion and love and forgiveness.
But it's the reason why it's always been so important to me because as I would continue to get put in leadership positions, the question became, what can I stand behind? Like what is true enough that I can stand behind it eternally? And so it couldn't ever be about like this, this opinion or this belief or this, it had to be something bigger than that. And that's, so that's been a whole process for me. But the nightmare, I mean, the fear behind all that was always that I would make that same mistake that I made in that lifetime and that I would have to relearn again. I think the idea here is really tapping into the visions and in a Neptune crowd, especially, who's into evolution and astrology, bringing in past lives, is it anything important ritual or initiation for us?
Because part of the Neptuneian wound is this fear of we're going to share something that is real to us and other people are going to think we're crazy, or there's something wrong with us. And the idea of the Neptuneian fear and it's like, you know, imagining things that scare us, especially Neptune and Sagittarius, it makes sense that gratitude would be a remedy or a solution for that. You know, let's talk, been talking about Neptune since Pisces season started. I really give myself permission to lean into the energies of the season.
And one of the things that came up to me for me was the distance between what we imagine and what the ideal is. And in some areas of our lives, we might feel that more heavily Neptune in the 10th house, right, someone who, especially Sagittarius, the arrow of leading people in a certain direction, right, based on a vision. Like I said early in life, the windows are being clean. That vision is not always clear.
And sometimes it leads to a whole lot of disappointment, but we can't stop dreaming. We have to keep the vision, we have to keep the vision going. And especially if we think of lifetimes, right, a full Neptune cycle, two lifetimes, two lifetimes. And so holding the vision. And I think this is a good practice for all of us. If we think about it, and we'll make it easy, if we think about the NATO house placement of our Neptune.
And we think about what is our ideal situation relative to that house. So for me, Neptune in the third, my ideal situation is everybody understands everything that comes out of my mouth. And anyone who knows me, when I say that, they're going to chuckle a little bit. Yeah, right. But they might even think that's going to be a miracle. And again, it might take lifetimes, but I think not me personally, but the astrologic or the cosmic perspective symbolic perspective that I've been gifted through my studying of astrology that I hope every day, you know, one day everyone can perceive it, can see the truth in their lives and in the symbols.
So, and because I believe when we go to Neptune in our house placement that we might find, you know, the, I think the, the aim is to get to the higher ideals, but we might find some of the nightmares. Some of the things where we're afraid of. I got one more question on the list. Have you ever experienced a miracle? Yes, I feel like all the time. And earlier I mentioned the beginning of astrology, I mean, that to me was a miracle.
I'm sitting at dinner, having a conversation with my friend, we're talking about astrology. I'm in one of the hardest periods of life going through a divorce, financial ruin. Total existential crisis. I had no idea what I was doing. I have two small kids. I don't know how to support them. It was not pretty. But I was in love with astrology and I knew I had a lot to give. So, I'm at dinner with my friend and we're at her house and we're talking about astrology and her husband's on the couch.
He says, you know, I bought a domain name years ago, astrology hub. And I've just been waiting for someone to do something with it. And I was like, oh my God, handshot way up in the air. It's like, I will do it. Whatever it is, I will do it. And so, that was a total miracle. It was such a synchronicity and that was the beginning of everything that I get to do today.
And when I first met him, we were on the beach. We would have family days at the beach. And the very second I met him, I thought, I'm going to work with him someday. And then it just like passed through my head and was gone. And then this thing that happened was months and months later. But yeah. Yeah. Wow. So, I learned, I've learned a lot in this hour and this conversation.
And one of the things that really jumped out with Neptune and a gift that you all have. And based off what I'm learning, it might be a good idea to lean into this more of recognizing and taking synchronicities seriously. Because I think there's something about it. And maybe it's easier for us because we have Neptune and Sagittarius on the journey.
But I still think there's something universal about Neptune is we have a vision and it's not clear. I imagine fog driving through the fog and just looking at the side, the yellow lines in the middle of the street as a guide pose, because we can't see. And so, as we're moving towards our visions, it's not always clear what the vision is, but there will be synchronicities, there will be guideposts, there will be signs on the way that are communicating to you.
But keep with it, stay with this vision. But also, and this is my personal perspective, if there's a vision you have and you're not seeing synchronicities and you're not noticing. I'd say based on this conversation, it's probably good to take note of that. To take note of that. And the other general thing is the connection between Neptune and Saturn.
Is that with Neptune, if you're in the Neptune, a question that you can ask yourself is simple question, is what would it take to make this real? And allow that to be a question or an invitation to the people, the things, the opportunities, the synchronicities, the miracles that are necessary to take this vision and bring it down to make it real. And I believe that question is an invitation to synchronicities for them to start to show up.
So Amanda, can you please tell us a little bit more about your book and what you have going on? Yeah, this, I mean, it was such an epitunian process of even writing it. It was one of those things where it was like, I know I need to write a book, I know I'm going to write a book, but I don't really know what it's going to be about. And then having a summer where I was like, okay, I'm just going to write the book and it just came, like, I felt like I was being directed. It was like, write this story, write that story, write this story. And so it all came together and is a book that will be out in April or May.
I believe, but it's been a very Neptuneian process of even pitting down the date. I believe April, May, June ish. It's called Life by the Stars. And I know we have the cover, I want to show the cover because it's so Neptune. And I wrote it and designed the cover long before I knew Neptune was my strongest planet. So once I found that out, I went, oh my god, I mean, the book to me is like an ode to Neptune and all of you will see your Neptuneianness in it, in the stories that are told.
But it's basically a memoir, but it's a teaching memoir. I have an astrologer, Natasha Alter, who provides astrologer's notes, which are basically reflections on my story that show that astrology was alive the whole time, whether or not I was aware of it. And so it's, you'll learn astrology. You will be interested in looking into certain things in your chart, even more. And it's a pretty compelling story, I think, as well.
I mentioned the experience of finding out that Neptune was your strongest planet. And because it's new kind of, you know, us bringing this to the surface, I think a lot of people are having, having that experience of surprise or curiosity about that experience of realizing that one of the planets is your strongest planet. Well, because I thought it was Saturn before to have the realization that it was Neptune, it just explained so much of the deeper calling that I'd always had to, you know, really blend spirituality with the work that I do.
And just the, even the call to live on an island surrounded by water. I mean, actually everywhere I've gone, I've been surrounded by water. But it just, it explained so much. And it has actually helped to expand the way that I am visioning for the future. Because when I thought Saturn was my strongest planet, it's so, you know, it's so Saturn. Like grounded in, and material. And so knowing that Neptune is, it's like, oh, wow, I feel like I can allow myself to dream more.
I feel like I can allow myself to expand more and indulge in more of the Neptuneian aspects that have always been there, but haven't, I haven't fully given myself permission to move toward, if that makes sense. And I hope that everybody else feels that, that permission as well. I don't know if you've had the same experience of not feeling like you had permission before. But I don't think our culture really encourages it very much or gives much value to a lot of the Neptuneian qualities.
So just learning that it was the strongest planet was like, okay, that's my permission slip. Yeah. Well said. And I think that's, that's what I'm really pushing for, especially this, this workshop is that you all feel more permission to dream. And note that I made earlier, we call this astrology for grownups. And so you've all had enough lived experience that it's about time for you to give yourself permission to trust your visions and your dreams, because we need them.
Well, thank you so much Amanda, so much for sharing your Neptuneian story and your gifts with us today. Thank you for having me. It's been so much fun.