SATURN NEPTUNE (Part 2) - Astrology of the Zeitgeist and the EPSTEIN Files
发布时间 2026-02-22 09:50:05 来源
Welcome everyone, I'm taking this time to explore Neptune's Saturn conjunction again. And then some. In my previous video which was published two, three, four years ago, I talked about what's coming and how Saturn and Neptune could affect us on a personal level and on a global level. It was from an anticipation point of view, but we understood the intentions, the energy and it's all showing up exactly as we've talked about. The actual way that Saturn and Neptune is expressing itself is always different. When we look at transits ahead of time, we understand what's going on, what are the intentions, we don't know the exact outcome. So in this case, we see how the Epstein files have been so central to this current aspect. And I'm going to obviously unpack this.
欢迎大家，我再次利用这个时间来探讨海王星与土星的合相。以及更多。在我两三四年前发布的上一个视频中，我谈到了未来以及土星和海王星如何在个人和全球层面影响我们。那时是从预测的角度来看这些事情，但我们理解了其背后的意图和能量，现在一切正如我们所讨论的那样展现出来。土星和海王星的实际表现方式总是不同的。当我们提前观察星象时，我们能够理解意图和背景，但无法确切得知结果。因此，在这种情况下，我们看到爱泼斯坦档案在当前这一星象中的重要性。我会详细解析这个话题。
So the purpose of this video is to not only look at what is coming up, but to reflect on what is going on right now and how it's basically living a mark that has changed all of us forever. Now Saturn and Neptune have been dancing together for several years now, two, three years. Neptune was in Pisces, Saturn entered Pisces but was not conjunct per se. And yet because it was in the sign of Pisces, the energies were already there. And it has been gathering and accumulating and getting stronger and stronger, especially in the course of 2025.
这段视频的目的不仅是展望未来，还要反思当前正在发生的事情，以及它如何对我们所有人的生活产生了永久的影响。多年来，土星和海王星在一起“共舞”，大约已经两三年了。海王星一直在双鱼座，土星也进入了双鱼座，虽然没有真正合相，但因为在双鱼座，能量已经开始显现。尤其是在2025年期间，这种能量正在不断积累并变得越来越强。
And now this year, 2026. Now Saturn is going to go faster than Neptune and gradually separate from Neptune. But then retrograde and get close enough. This is the one time conjunction is complete. And we now can understand the result and learn from it as we continue to see how this unfolds. What is Saturn and Neptune about? One of the main visuals that I use for that is the big rocks, the big boulder that Saturn represents, the earth and what seems to be in a way resilient and strong and seems to withstand these constant movement of waves crashing.
现在是2026年。今年土星将比海王星运行得更快，并逐渐与其拉开距离。但随后土星会逆行，再次接近海王星。这将是唯一一次两者的合相完成之时。如今，我们可以理解这种合相的结果，并从中学习，同时继续观察这一过程的发展。土星和海王星是什么呢？我通常用一个主要的视觉比喻来说明：土星代表的巨大岩石和巨石，就像坚固不变的大地，而海王星则象征着不断拍打的海浪。
Yet over time water is winning because it keeps eroding the rock patiently. That's exactly Saturn and Neptune. Things that we thought would be invincible, unbreakable, that would stay forever, show vulnerability. They start to weaken and then sometimes collapse completely. So when we speak about the current circumstances and we see individuals who have been exposed through the Epstein files such as icons, the Deepak Chopra and Norm Chomsky and obviously Andrew Mountbatten and his family. These folks who seem to be well established, who seem to be protected or invincible, untouchable as Saturn kind of holds its ground, it's established.
然而，随着时间的推移，水总是胜出，因为它不断耐心地侵蚀岩石。这正如土星和海王星所象征的那些曾经被认为无懈可击、牢不可破的事物，也会显露出脆弱的一面。它们开始变弱，有时甚至会完全崩溃。因此，当我们谈论当前的状况时，我们看到一些在爱泼斯坦档案中曝光的个人，比如一些知名人物，如迪帕克·乔普拉、诺姆·乔姆斯基，显然还有安德鲁·芒巴顿及其家人。这些看似稳固、受保护、不容侵犯的人物，就像土星那样稳如泰山，但终究也会显露出不确定的一面。
Suddenly the gradual erosion can lead to a sudden collapse. And it's a collapse of reputation as well as it can be a bankruptcy. It can manifest in all kinds of vulnerabilities, even sometimes just health issues. This can also happen in our own lives, not to the extent of such a massive scandal. But when we see people that we admire and we realize they are vulnerable, they need help. They're not as strong as we thought they would be or that we hoped they would be.
突然间，渐进的侵蚀可能会导致一次突如其来的崩溃。这种崩溃不仅仅是名誉上的损失，也可能导致破产。这种情况可以表现为各种脆弱性，有时甚至是健康问题。这种事情也可能发生在我们自己的生活中，尽管不会像大型丑闻那样严重。但是，当我们看到自己仰慕的人时，可能会意识到他们很脆弱，需要帮助。他们并不像我们所想象的或期望的那样坚强。
Now people born with Saturn and Neptune can experience several scenarios. But one of the common ones is that there may be an absence of role models. So sometimes one of the parents is completely absent. Sometimes the parent is present but they're very passive and so they don't make decisions. They are not representing an authority figure. And in other cases it can be a parent who is very permissive. No rules, you can do whatever you want. You don't want to go to school, don't go to school.
现在，拥有土星和海王星配置的人可能会经历多种情境。其中一种常见情况是，他们可能缺乏榜样。有时候，其中一位父母完全不在身边。有时候，父母虽然在身边，但非常消极，不会做决策，也不作为权威人物出现。在另一些情况下，父母可能过于宽松，没有任何规则，你想怎么做就怎么做。例如，你不想上学，那就不用上学。
And it creates this feeling that what Saturn represents as far as the rock, the guidance, someone to give me direction is not available. It can create a sense of freedom, but this sense of freedom comes at the cost of not having clear guidance, having to figure things out on my own. And on some occasion it can give an illusion that I'm above the law, that rules don't apply to me. So many folks with Saturn and Neptune and that can also apply to Saturn in Pisces can on the one hand grow with a false sense of confidence.
这句话的意思是：这给人一种感觉，即土星所代表的坚固、指引，以及给我方向的人，这些都是不容易获得的。这可能会带来一种自由感，但这种自由感的代价是缺乏明确的指导，需要自己去摸索。有时候，这种感觉可能会让人产生一种错觉，觉得自己可以不受约束，规则对自己不适用。因此，很多土星与海王星有联系的人，或者土星位于双鱼座的人，一方面可能会滋生一种虚假的自信。
And at some point earlier in their adult life, things stop working. They don't make the right decisions. They lose their money. They can get into this functional behavior. Again, that feeling that there's no solid ground, that everything is muddy and it's foggy and it's multi-directional. It's not focused, it's not grounded. So you're constantly walking in pools of water and mud. And that can lead to increasing dysfunction, weakness, a feeling that your spine is not straight.
在他们成年生活的某个阶段，事情开始变得不顺利。他们做不出正确的决定，失去钱财，可能会陷入一种失去功能的状态。再次出现那种没有坚实基石的感觉，一切都混乱不清，四处不明。缺乏重点，缺乏定力，就像总是在泥泞和积水中行走。这可能导致功能的进一步失调、无力，甚至感觉脊梁不再挺直。
Sometimes it's very literal that there could be structural issues on a physical level. In more extreme cases, once again, this absence of right and wrong can lead to not knowing what's appropriate and what's not. And you end up paying the consequences of that. For example, nobody asks you for your homework. And so you didn't do your homework. But when push comes to shove, it also means you were not prepared that you didn't really integrate what you had to learn. And so you pay your consequence for not having that rigor.
有时候，从字面上看，可能会在物理层面上存在结构性问题。在更极端的情况下，这种对是非的缺乏判断可能导致不知道什么是恰当的、什么是不恰当的，从而让你承担相应的后果。例如，没有人要求你交作业，所以你就没有做作业。但到了关键时刻，这也意味着你没有做好准备，没有真正掌握你需要学习的内容。因此，由于缺乏严格要求，你要承担相应的后果。
Now, what we see in the course of these past couple of years, we see Biden becoming frail and frail. And we had to choose in the United States between someone who was aging quickly and wouldn't be strong enough to take on the leadership. And someone who's a convicted felon who was accumulated a lot of bad behavior, including the insurrection. And coming into power eventually and winning in a way that challenged every structure, every agreement that was established. So in some ways, Saturn really captured that Neptune and energy.
在过去的这几年里，我们看到拜登变得越来越虚弱。在美国，我们不得不在两种选择中做出决定：一个是快速衰老、不够强大而无法承担领导职责的人；另一个是一个累积了许多不当行为的罪犯，包括参与叛乱。这个人最终上台，并以一种挑战所有既定结构和协议的方式获胜。从某种角度来看，这就像是土星真的捕捉住了海王星的能量。
And what Trump did when he came into office, one of his statement was, I'm going to fix the border. I'm going to fix immigration issues. So his feeling was that the borders Saturn were too flaky. And he called the whole diversity movement and human rights as flaky and bringing this kind of authoritarian presence that won him popularity contest. So when Saturn Neptune can create this sense of not having a strong enough backbone. And we can see powerful figures in our lives in the world personal collective weakening. This can lead to a need for someone to show up in a very mature and strong way.
当特朗普上任时，他曾表示要解决边境问题和移民问题。他的感觉是，边境政策过于松散。他还称多元化运动和人权问题为“不切实际”，并通过这种威权姿态赢得了不少支持者。因此，当土星和海王星相遇时，可能会让人感觉缺乏坚实的支持，我们可能会看到生活中或世界范围内的重要人物表现出软弱。这往往会需要有人以成熟而坚强的方式出现。
And in a positive experience, this can be a form of spiritual awakening because Neptune brings the spiritual aspect of Saturn. And so Neptune is going to reflect the need to not only look for justice or for the rights and wrong on the human level, but it's going to look at the deeper spiritual truth, the deeper spiritual morality and guidance. So some folks with Saturn Neptune may be born into families where boundaries were loose, where things were not well defined. And then they meet a spiritual teacher or they learn astrology or they learn, I don't know, Kabbalah.
这可以是一种精神觉醒的形式，因为海王星带来了土星的精神面。因此，海王星不仅反映了对人类层面上的正义或对与错的追求，还反映了对更深层次的精神真理、更深层次的精神道德和指导的追求。有些土星海王星相位的人可能出生在界限不清晰、事情没有明确定义的家庭中。随后，他们遇到了一位精神导师，或学习了占星术，或者学习了其他的精神知识，比如卡巴拉。
And that suddenly provides a framework, something that brings the order, the direction, the sense suddenly things start to make sense that was missing and it can be an empowering experience. However, the risk with Saturn Neptune is of moral collapse, where things that we always held dear, things that we thought were important, like human rights, like due process, like treating people respectfully. And not accepting bribe and not hardening criminals was established. And yet now with the Neptune Saturn, nothing is certain and we can bend the rules according to what suits our private agenda.
这突然提供了一个框架，一种能带来秩序、方向和意义的东西，突然之间那些缺失的东西开始显得有意义，这可能是一种赋权的体验。然而，土星与海王星的结合也可能带来道德崩溃的风险，这种情况下，我们曾经珍视的东西，比如人权、正当程序、尊重他人等，都会受到挑战。同样，那些不接受贿赂和不纵容罪犯的原则也会受到质疑。而如今在海王星与土星的影响下，没有什么是确定的，我们可能会根据个人利益去扭曲和更改规则。
So that feeling of having a role model or reference, having the founding fathers, define the constitution, define what we can rely on for generation, gets murky, blur, manipulated, ignored, and corruption basically settles in. So we see through the last year or so when they got closer and closer together that many of those safeguarding guidelines were thrown out the window. And the paradox is that on the one hand Trump as a figure, it was very symbolic because on the one hand he threw all these due process and established guidelines out the window.
因此，那种拥有榜样或参照物的感觉，比如美国的开国元勋，他们定义了宪法，为世代提供了可以依赖的基础。这种感觉变得模糊、不清晰，并且遭受到操控和忽视，导致腐败基本上开始滋生。所以我们看到在过去的一年多时间里，随着他们越来越接近，许多保障性的指导原则被抛弃。矛盾的是，以特朗普为代表的人物在某种程度上具有象征意义，因为他一方面抛弃了所有这些正当程序和既定的指导原则。
And he showed up as a very authoritarian role model that is unforgiving when it comes to immigration and is unforgiving when it comes to diversity and imposes tariffs. In a way that is punishing is creates this fear. So he represents this reign of terror, this reign of fear. And that is very Saturn Neptune because one of the compensating mechanism when you feel like you don't have a solid ground is to suddenly respond to a powerful figure who is going to be very firm.
他展现出一种非常专制的榜样形象，对移民和多样性毫不宽容，并且施加关税。他的方式带有惩罚性，制造了一种恐惧。因此，他代表了一种恐怖和恐惧的统治。这种描述非常符合土星和海王星的特性，因为当你感觉没有坚实的基础时，其中一种补偿机制就是突然回应一个非常坚定有力的人物。
What I'm basically saying is that the sense of insecurity, the absence of direction, the sense of disorientation, can create a power vacuum. That is then filled by authoritarian figures who promise order, who promise to bring back Saturn when Neptune tried to take it away. And that can lead to an abuse of power. We see quite often that folks that are born with this signature again, it can come in different forms, Saturn in Pisces, Saturn Neptune, Saturn in the 12 files, who experience this absence of role models can get in trouble, make the wrong choices and decision, waste, squander their resources.
基本上我想表达的是，不安全感、缺乏方向和迷失感可以创造出一个权力真空。这个真空往往会被那些承诺带来秩序的威权人物填补，他们承诺恢复土星在海王星试图夺去它时的状态。而这可能导致权力的滥用。我们经常看到，那些带有这种特征的人，比如土星在双鱼座、土星和海王星有联系，或者土星在第十二宫的人，他们缺乏榜样，可能因此而陷入麻烦，做出错误选择和决定，浪费和挥霍自己的资源。
Until they find a system that is very rigid or an authority figure that is very rigid and that brings the opposite extreme of rigid rules. That can also happen through religion. Many of these folks can be seduced, tempted by the being born again, returning to a very fundamental interpretation of religion where rules are now super firm. And the rights and wrong and what you can and cannot do is very clear.
直到他们找到一个非常严格的系统或者一个非常严格的权威人物，这会带来截然不同的极端规则。这种情况也可能通过宗教发生。很多人可能会被吸引、被诱惑去接受“重生”，回归到对宗教的非常基础的解读，其中规则非常明确，对与错以及可以做和不可以做的事情都清晰明了。
The other thing that is happening in the current zeitgeist is the return of the manosphere where a lot of male who were in a way weakened, who felt emasculated. By movements like me too, where there was an abuse of power by very powerful males who took advantage of their position of authority and ended up abusing whether it's in the Hollywood industry, whether it's in the sports industry and of course politics. So suddenly there was this guilt that you shouldn't abuse your power that you're going to be exposed and you're going to be canceled and you're going to pay heavy consequences.
在当前的社会思潮中，另一个引人注目的现象是“男性空间”的回归。一些男性原本感到被削弱，觉得自己的男性气概受到了影响。这主要是因为像“我也是”这样的运动揭露了许多有权势的男性滥用权力，他们利用自己的地位在例如好莱坞、体育界以及政治界中进行不当行为。因此，现在人们开始意识到滥用权力是不对的，因为这样做会被揭露、被抵制，并且要承担严重后果。
So suddenly those powerful usually male it's not exclusively male but a lot of them were strong male figures. Oh, you know, the pyramid was inverted and it's actually the simple people, the victim that got to decide. So these canceling movement created this inverted pyramid where those who thought they were above it all ended up experiencing some kind of crisis or some kind of bankrupt.
突然之间，那些通常是男性的强大人物，尽管不全是男性，但很多都是强势的男性形象，发现金字塔倒过来了。实际上，是普通人和受害者在做决定。这种取消文化运动创造了一个倒置的金字塔，那些自认为高高在上的人最终经历了一种危机或者破产。
So this generated an overall feeling of wounded masculine and in some ways necessarily so because the toxic masculinity, the abuse of power was not sustainable and was not healthy and it had to be a good example. The toxic masculinity, the abuse of power was not sustainable and was not healthy and it had to go through this purging and the victim needed to be heard and so that justice is served.
因此，这产生了一种整体上受伤的男性气质，某种程度上这是必要的，因为有害的男子气概和滥用权力的行为不可持续，也不健康，必须成为一个反面教材。这种有毒的男子气概和权力滥用行为无法长久，也不利于健康，必须经历这样的清除过程。同时，受害者需要被倾听，以实现公正。
However, the backlash of that, the need to reclaim their power instead of learning their lesson and saying, you know, how can we be powerful males again but without the toxic part of it was somewhat skipped. And you had suddenly again a return to a form of masculine authoritarian model that would be more aggressive than ever and you have figures like Andrew Tate or Nick Fuentes and other weirdos who came out of the woodwork and suddenly became these powerful influencers who were of course supported by Trump because he needed the votes of, you know, their followers.
然而，这种反弹带来了另一种结果，人们没有吸取教训，没有思考如何在摒弃有害部分的同时重新成为有影响力的男性，而这一过程有些被跳过了。于是，人们突然回归到一种更具攻击性的男子气概权威模式，像安德鲁·泰特或尼克·富恩特斯等一些怪异人物突然冒出来，成为强大的影响者，他们当然得到了特朗普的支持，因为他需要这些追随者的选票。
And so we experience with this Saturn Neptune, especially leaning into areas into areas is a masculine sign into this need to reclaim the order of the male. And once again, from being in a way washed away a sense that you're not holding your posture straight that you are a whip that you are taking advantage of. Compensating mechanism is that you you are looking for a role model who will be as firm as rigid and unfortunately as toxic as aggressive as these figures.
在这段话中，我们经历了土星和海王星的影响，特别是在白羊座这样的男性星座上，反映出一种重建男性秩序的需求。再次感受到，好像自己被冲刷掉了一样，失去了站直的姿态，感觉自己被利用了。作为一种补偿机制，你会寻找一个榜样，希望他能像那些角色一样坚定、严格，但不幸的是，同样具有毒性和攻击性。
This is a very important astrological lesson for us to see how this is happening and how this movement of manosphere is reclaiming not just the sovereignty of the male but the toxicity and the abusive behavior that is also now blended into religion. Through a powerful figure called Pastor Douglas Wilson. So the Pastor Douglas Wilson is bringing a religious interpretation to the manosphere where he uses God to justify male dominance.
这是一堂非常重要的占星课，它让我们看到这一现象是如何发生的，以及“男性领域”运动如何不仅在重新夺回男性的主权，还把有害和虐待的行为融合进了宗教之中。这一运动通过一个名叫道格拉斯·威尔逊的牧师推动。他将“男性领域”运动与宗教解读结合起来，并且利用上帝来为男性的主导地位辩护。
And women's absolute submission to the husband. So we're going to unpack that. But as you can see in this chart, Pastor Douglas Wilson is a Saturn Neptune conjunction born. And that is so graphic that he brings the spiritual component to justify authoritarianism and male authoritarianism and calls it packages it as God's word. And it becomes extremely dangerous because one of his followers is Pete Hexeth who has invited this pastor to the Pentagon.
翻译：
女性绝对服从丈夫。我们将对此进行分析。但正如你在这张图表中看到的，牧师道格拉斯·威尔逊是一个土星和海王星结合的人。这清楚地表明，他将精神成分引入，以合理化专制主义和男性权威主义，并将其包装成“上帝的旨意”。这变得极为危险，因为他的追随者之一是皮特·赫克塞斯，他曾邀请这位牧师到五角大楼。
So we see how this movement is not just magnified through the influencers on their social media, but it is actually infiltrating into governance into the close circles of those in power. And Pete Hexeth is a Neptune Saturn square. So he's born under the same aspect and has himself experienced Saturn Neptune on his moon soon to cross his eye see which is going to be a pivotal time.
因此，我们看到这一运动不仅仅是通过社交媒体上的影响者得到放大，它实际上还渗透到了治理层，并影响到了权力圈中的核心人物。Pete Hexeth的星盘中有海王星与土星的相位，所以他出生时就带有这一影响。他也即将在月亮上经历土星与海王星的交汇，这对他来说是一个关键时刻。
And I'm going to explain why so that Saturn Neptune makes him want to yearn and look for a powerful authority figure. And for him, this pastor Wilson is the father that he didn't have. It's the, you know, he's sense of empowerment when he felt initially with a Neptune son opposition and a Saturn Neptune square, he felt take an advantage of abused.
我要解释一下为什么土星-海王星让他渴望寻找一个有权威的人物。对他来说，这位牧师威尔逊就是他所缺失的父亲。在最初的时候，他因为海王星与太阳相对立、土星与海王星成四分相而感到受到了利用和伤害，而这位牧师让他感受到了一种力量感。
And now he can use this ideology to dominate women, to dominate other nations. And this is going very far. It's not something to be disregarded and you know something that it's on the sideline. This is one of the testimonials from a woman who was part of Wilson's cult. And so her and her husband were following his, his service and she had to sign a contract that she had to write that gave her husband absolute power and agreeing to channeled violence as a form of necessary discipline.
现在他可以利用这种意识形态来主宰女性，主宰其他国家。这件事情发展得非常严重，不应该被忽视，也不是无关紧要的事情。这是一位曾经是威尔逊邪教成员的女性的证言。她和她的丈夫都听从威尔逊的指示，她被迫签署一份合同，合同中规定她要赋予她的丈夫绝对权力，并同意将定向暴力视为一种必要的纪律手段。
Which also led to sexual violence, rape, sadomasochism, under the guise of the word of God. This is permeating into this movement and this culture that is gaining traction. And it is by all means, a shadow side of the Saturn Neptune conjunction. So when we explore that, you know, in the course of history, we see a lot of movements where at times of chaos, at times when leaders are not strong enough, there is going to be an authoritarian dictator who is going to rise through this. Through the Saturn Neptune influence and dominate another example is of course, Putin. He is born with us in the same generation of the 1953, the same as Pastor Wilson.
这也导致了在“上帝之名”的幌子下出现的性暴力、强奸和虐恋行为。这种现象正在渗透到正在兴起的运动和文化中。这无疑是土星海王星合相的阴影面。当我们回顾历史时，可以看到在混乱时期，由于领导者不够强大，往往会出现专制的独裁者崛起。在土星和海王星的影响下，这种情况会更加明显。比如说，普京就是一个例子，他和牧师威尔逊一样，都是1953年出生的同一代人。
And he came into power right after the Soviet collapse. So for him, the previous cycle of Saturn Neptune, when he saw his empire dissolve, was one of the biggest traumatic events. And he saw how Gorbachev was weak and giving into the West. And he despised his decision to basically dissolve communism. And from a Saturn Neptune point of view, his whole agenda is to restore the Saturnian presence and dignity of the Russian entity and the Russian Empire.
在苏联解体后，他就上台了。对于他来说，上一个土星-海王星周期期间，他目睹自己的帝国瓦解，这是他经历过的最大创伤事件之一。他看到戈尔巴乔夫软弱无力地向西方妥协，对戈尔巴乔夫基本上解散共产主义的决定非常不满。从土星-海王星的角度来看，他的整个计划就是要恢复俄罗斯国家和俄罗斯帝国的土星般的存在感和尊严。
And he has led with an iron fist as an authoritarian. Since 1999, when he came into power, which was the first Saturn Neptune square. So the Soviet Union collapses in the Saturn Neptune conjunction of the 1989, 1990. And nine years later, he becomes kind of also in a very Neptuneian way. Nobody bet it on him. But he finds himself into this position of leadership and becomes from a minor figure, this authoritarian dictator, powerful, feared not only in his own circles, but globally.
他以铁腕专制领导自1999年上台后便是如此，那时正值土星与海王星的第一次相刑。而在1989到1990年的土星与海王星合相期间，苏联解体。九年后，他在某种程度上也以一种“海王星式”的方式上台，几乎没有人看好他。然而，他发现自己处于领导地位，从一个不显眼的人物变成了一个专制的独裁者，不仅在他自己的圈子里被人畏惧，也在全球范围内引发恐惧。
And he's a gender, you know, manipulating election, staying in power for 25 years and not giving any hint that democracy and election mean anything. And he and dissolving every opposition throwing people off of windows and poisoning everyone again, ruling as an iron fist. And for some people, that's interpreted as great because they prefer a dictator to a weak, spineless leader.
他操纵选举，已在位25年，没有表现出民主和选举有任何意义的迹象。他解散反对派，把人从窗户扔出去，毒害反对者，以铁腕手段执政。对某些人来说，这被解读为很伟大，因为他们宁愿接受独裁者，也不愿看到一个软弱无能的领导者。
So that demonstration of force, that compensation for not having authority is then compensated through an abuse of authority. And that's where now we are in not in Russia, but in the West. So Russia had their Saturn Neptune experience through 1999, 1999, and the rise of Putin. And we are now having it with the rise of Trump and the manosphere and these pastors and the return of fundamentalism as a form of restoring order.
为了弥补权威的缺失，人们通过滥用权力来体现力量。这种情况现在不仅出现在俄罗斯，也出现在西方。在1999年期间，俄罗斯经历了类似于土星和海王星相遇的改变，并伴随着普京的崛起。而在西方，我们当前正在经历类似的变化，体现为特朗普的崛起、男性主义圈子的兴起以及一些牧师和原教旨主义的回归，这些都被视为一种恢复秩序的方式。
And inevitably, from like we said, loose boundaries, we now experience aggressive boundaries, violent boundaries. And we see that with ice, you know, the illustration of porous borders, you know, Biden being permissive in giving Venezuelian, you know, a home and a refuge and many people, you know, from Afghanistan, who helped the United States in the war, who were given an a second chance are now kicked out in brutal way, without any kind of consideration and compassion.
不可避免地，就像我们之前提到的，从宽松的边界政策，我们现在经历了激进而严厉的边界政策。我们可以从边境管理的例子中看到这一点，比如说，拜登给予委内瑞拉人一个家和避难所，同时许多在战争中帮助过美国的阿富汗人曾获得过第二次机会，但现在却被残酷地驱逐出境，毫无考虑和同情之心。
And so this dichotomy between the permissiveness, maybe over permissiveness of Biden and Biden had Neptune has Neptune in his 10,000, which is another reflection of Saturn Neptune because the 10,000 is a Saturnion house to now. Being in the hands of a tyrant, who is abusing force, but his aim is to bring back a wall to bring back the border and to basically do it at any cost and kick the undesirable out.
拜登对某些事情表现得相对宽容，也许是过于宽容，这种对比非常明显。拜登在其星盘的第十宫有海王星，第十宫是一个与土星有关的位置，这反映了土星和海王星的关系。但现在权力落入了一个滥用武力的暴君手中，他的目标是重建围墙，恢复边境，不惜一切代价驱逐那些被认为不受欢迎的人。
And we won't get into the agenda, but part of what makes ice abusive is that they have to feel quotas. So it's not only about finding illegals, it's about finding a certain amount of people to jail at any cost. This is part of the privatization of detention centers, which is another form of corruption and violation of justice and the violation of due process.
我们不讨论议程，但冰团队（移民和海关执法局）施暴的部分原因是他们有配额要达成。所以这不仅仅是找到非法移民的问题，而是要不惜一切代价找到一定数量的人来监禁。这与私营化拘留中心有关，这又是一种腐败、违背正义和违反正当程序的行为。
So this whole chaos is a Saturn Neptune mess. Because on the one hand, they implement the law that everyone who overstays their visa for five seconds is going to be deported. No questions, no due process asked. But on the other hand, they bend the rules when it comes to them, the rules can be bent left and right to suit my agenda.
这整个混乱就是一个土星-海王星混局。一方面，他们实施了一项法律，规定任何签证超期五秒的人都会被立即驱逐，没有任何问题，也不需要任何程序。但另一方面，他们自己却可以随意弯曲规则，以符合自己的利益。
So another figure that is obviously part of the of this current zeitgeist is Mr Epstein himself. But Epstein was born on a Saturn Neptune conjunction and he embodies that conjunction in every shape and form. So the fact that the scandal is kind of culminating climaxing, at least of what we know, maybe there's more.
显然，埃普斯坦先生是当前时代精神的一部分。而埃普斯坦出生时正值土星与海王星合相，他在各方面都体现了这一合相。因此，我们现在看到的丑闻达到高潮，这可能还只是我们所了解的一部分，或许还有更多未被揭露的内容。
During a Saturn Neptune conjunction reflects this figure who is himself. You know, bending the rules and think he thought of himself to be above the law. He was arrested for trafficking, but he was released. You know, he managed to get his way out. And that didn't stop him for continuing his whole pedophile operation.
在土星与海王星相合期间，体现了这样一个人物形象：他认为自己可以不守规矩，自以为能凌驾于法律之上。他因涉嫌贩卖而被捕，但后来被释放了。你知道的，他设法找到了办法脱身。但这并没有阻止他继续进行他的那些恋童犯罪活动。
I also want to bring to your attention an asteroid called the asteroid Epstein. It was not named after him. It was named after an astronomer named Isadora Epstein and the number, the serial number of that asteroid is 2928, which if you want to look at a femoris or online references. It was discovered on March 14, 1976 when the asteroid was a 21 Libra.
我还想提醒你注意一颗名为“埃普斯坦”的小行星。它不是以他命名的，而是以一位名叫伊莎多拉·埃普斯坦的天文学家的名字命名的。这颗小行星的编号是2928，如果你想查阅星历表或在线资料的话可以用这个号码查询。它是在1976年3月14日被发现的，当时位于天秤座的21度。
Now that happened to be exactly on the degree of Saturn Neptune of Epstein. Interesting secrenessity that we were going to see how this asteroid is really instrumental in the Jeffrey Epstein scandal and storyline and life. Because asteroid work that way, even though it's named after another unrelated individual, the name carries the frequency and anyone who is involved in the scandal, both the victims and the prosecutors and the perpetrators. Have this asteroid very strategically placed in their chart. His own asteroid Epstein is conjunct his moon. And the asteroid palisophina. Now does that mean that wherever you have asteroid Epstein, there's going to be a pedophilia problem? I don't think so. So this is something, it's a study in progress. I don't have all answers as to whether the asteroid Epstein has other meanings and can be used differently. Very likely it does. But for upper purposes, in this under the umbrella of the Saturn Neptune, scandals and collapse and erosion of moral and moral bankruptcy, I will use the asteroid Epstein to unpack those who are involved there.
现在，这正好对应了爱泼斯坦的土星-海王星度数。这种有趣的巧合让我们看到这个小行星在杰弗里·爱泼斯坦的丑闻、故事线和生活中起到了重要作用。尽管小行星是以其他不相关的人命名的，它的名字却携带特定频率，而被卷入丑闻的人，无论是受害者、检察官还是施害者，都在他们的星盘中有这个小行星的战略性位置。他自己的"爱泼斯坦"小行星与他的月亮和"帕拉斯·雅典娜"小行星相合。现在，这是否意味着在任何人的星盘中有"爱泼斯坦"小行星就会出现恋童癖问题呢？我不这么认为。这仍在研究中，我没有所有的答案来解释"爱泼斯坦"小行星是否有其他意义或可以有不同的用途。很可能确实如此。但在土星-海王星、丑闻、崩溃和道德崩溃的背景下，我会利用"爱泼斯坦"小行星来分析那些涉事者。
Now this is externally his second arrest which occurred in July 2019. And this is a natal chart that is also speculative. I'm putting these stickers here as you can see, there are some doubts about his time of birth. It's 615 or 635am or PM. So why is because you see the birth certificate is so blurry that it's super hard to make sense of it. We do see the six something 251535. Based on some of the transits and observation, it seems like the morning hour with Capricorn rising is the chart to look at. There's a confirmation from another source that it's actually 615. But it's not an official document. This is from Gilein Maxwell notes where she write down his date of birth at 615. So I use 635, but it could easily be 615. And why is that important when he was arrested, Saturn was right on that degree for 635 and Saturn has to do with the rule of law, legislation, penance, guilt, accountability, all these good things. Saturn was on the nose, which amplifies the karmic implication of Saturn and the accountability. Saturn was exactly sex style Neptune, which itself was on his Mars and Venus.
这实际上是他第二次被捕，发生在2019年7月。这是一张他的出生星图，但还是有些推测性的成分。我在这里贴了一些标签，你可以看到他出生时间有些争议。可能是早上或晚上6:15或6:35。原因是他的出生证明太模糊了，很难看清楚。我们只能看到类似于“6点多”的字样。根据一些星体过境和观察，似乎早晨时段，带有摩羯座上升的星图更为准确。还有一个消息来源确认了应该是6:15，但不是官方文件。这来源于吉蕾恩·麦克斯韦尔的笔记，她写下了他的出生时间是6:15。因此我用的是6:35，但也可能是6:15。
这为什么重要呢？因为当他被捕时，土星正好在6:35这个度数上，而土星与法律、惩罚、内疚、责任等有关。土星正好在这个位置上，放大了业力的影响和责任感。土星与海王星呈六分相，而海王星与他的火星和金星相关。
If we look at the placement of asteroid Epstein, the moment he was presumed dead, which is a month after his arrest on August 6, 2019, the asteroid Epstein is on Polo. Now that is quite uncanny. It is very telling. And of course there are a lot of theories that he's a dead and that he's on another island. I don't know. Personally, I think that he's too much of a liability and nobody wants him alive. I don't think that they really would have saved him. The other thing that's happening is that at the time of the events when he died, you know, camera stopped working and the guards fell asleep like, oh, oh was basically orchestrated for security cameras not to capture what actually happened. My take is that he was given the opportunity to commit suicide so that he would save himself the trouble of being under scrutiny and radar. And I don't think that there was any interest in giving him an escape route. Who's going to benefit from that? That's my take.
如果我们看一下小行星Epstein的位置，在他被认为死亡的那一刻，也就是他于2019年8月6日被捕后的一个月，小行星Epstein正好位于Polo星座。这真是太不可思议了，意味深长。当然，很多人猜测他并没有死，而是去了另一个岛。我不知道，但我个人认为，他对于某些人来说是个很大的威胁，没人想让他活着。我不认为有人真的会救他。
还有一个现象发生在他死亡的那个时候，就是监控摄像头停止工作，警卫打盹，所有这些似乎都是为了不让监控录下实际发生的事情。我觉得他可能得到了一个自杀的机会，以避免被持续关注和调查。我不认为有人有兴趣给他一个逃跑的机会。谁能从中获利呢？这是我的看法。
But astrologically, we see that the planet Neptune was on his Mars. And that's two things. Neptune on Mars is an escape. But it's an escape by suicide. You kill yourself to escape your reality or it's an escape by going undercover and disappearing. So one day we'll know, but there's something about Epstein that is extremely Neptuneian. You know, he's lurking in the shadows. He's in, you know, he has the gift of invisibility. Being, you know, at the center of this immense operation that involves, you know, people from the academia and politics and Hollywood and, you know, inventors. So he's permeating all these different circles. And yet people didn't know about him. You know, it's that gift of invisibility until he was busted. And then he disappears again. And we are now, you know, living in the, you know, with through the ghost of Epstein. So it's so Neptuneian.
从占星学的角度来看，我们发现海王星位于他的火星上。这意味着两件事情。海王星在火星上是一种逃避。但这是通过自杀来逃避现实，或者是通过隐藏和消失来逃避。所以有一天我们会知道，但关于爱泼斯坦，有一些东西极具海王星的特质。你知道，他在阴影中潜伏。他拥有隐身的才能。在涉及学术界、政治界、好莱坞以及发明家等庞大操作的中心，却没人了解到他。他渗透到各个不同的圈子，可是直到他被揭发前，人们都不知道他。然后他又消失了。现在我们生活在关于爱泼斯坦的“幽灵”阴影下。这一切都如此具有海王星的特质。
But his ability to manipulate the system, to not be held accountable, to manage to bend the rules is very sad in Neptune. There are accounts of him being connected to the Russian entity and serving Russia or serving the Mossad. You know, probably both are true. But think about putting, you know, being born with the same sad in Neptune. They definitely spoke the same language of corruption, blackmail, and presenting very civilized while being a tyrant behind the scenes.
但他在海王星上操纵系统、不被问责、设法扭曲规则的能力实在令人感到悲哀。有人说他与俄罗斯实体有联系，为俄罗斯或莫萨德服务。你知道，可能两者都是事实。但想想看，如果你生来就带有同样的特质，他们肯定在腐败、勒索和在表面上看起来很文明但在幕后是暴君方面有共同语言。
So when we look at some of the key figures in the scandal, obviously ex-Prince Andrew, malbatton, who was arrested as on his birthday, exactly on the Saturn Neptune conjunction. As the Saturn Neptune is making an exact 30 degree angle to his son. And that 30 degree angle is powerful. And he has an eclipse on his son. So, astrologically, it's all a line to make him take the, take the fall. And some say, you know, he's being scapegoated for everyone else. Maybe, maybe not. It's not the end of it.
当我们查看丑闻中的一些关键人物时，显然包括前王子安德鲁和马尔巴顿。后者在他生日那天被捕，正好是在土星与海王星相合之时。而且，土星和海王星与他的太阳形成了一个精确的30度角，这个角度非常有力量。而且他还有一次日食发生在他的太阳上。从占星学的角度来看，这一切似乎都在促使他成为替罪羊。一些人说，他是在为其他人承担责任。也许是，也许不是，这件事还没有结束。
But in any case, he needs to be held accountable. In a way, it's, it's his victim, Virginia D'Urfri, who singled him out. So she's the one who showed the photos and who talked about him, abusing her. So in a way, he definitely became a symbol of someone who is otherwise sheltered by the monarchy and status and a lot of veils around him for him to finally be held accountable, at least in process. It is extremely important.
但无论如何，他需要被追究责任。在某种程度上，是他的受害者，弗吉尼亚·德乌尔弗里，指认了他。是她展示了照片，并谈到了他虐待她的事情。因此，在某种程度上，他确实成为了一个象征，象征着尽管他因皇室和地位的庇护而被层层掩盖，现在终于至少在过程中被追究责任。 这是非常重要的。
So, Asteroid Epstein, natally, is at 20 Virgo for him. It's very close to his North node and Mercury opposition. So, all the dealings and the travel and the, you know, in sexual houses to eight is instrumental in strategic. At the time of his arrest, the Asteroid Epstein is in his ninth house, which is a legal house. And it squares his natal Saturn. So, he is born with a Saturn Jupiter conjunction. Saturn is opposing Jupiter and in the square of the ninth house, all showing legal procedures to holding accountable.
小行星埃普斯坦在他的本命盘中位于处女座20度。这个位置非常接近他的北交点和水星的对冲。他的所有交易、旅行以及与第八宫（性宫）有关的事情都是策略性的重要因素。在他被捕时，小行星埃普斯坦正位于他的第九宫，这是与法律有关的宫位，并与他的本命土星形成刑克。他天生带有土星和木星的合相，这两个行星在对冲，并在第九宫形成刑克，显示出法律程序是为了追究责任。
So, there's a lot more to this chart. We don't want to spend our whole time. So, this is Virginia's chart. And you can see she's not born with a Saturn Neptune, but she's born with a Saturn Pluto. And I'm going to get to why that's important. Now, natally, she has a Saturn Pluto square Mars. That's obviously, again, another signature for authorities Saturn using sexuality Pluto to force themselves abuse her square Mars. Look at those degrees, 27 cancer, 27 Libra. And where is Andrew's Mars, 27 Capricorn.
所以，这张图表还有很多要讲的内容，我们不想花全部时间在上面。这是维吉尼娅图表的一部分。你可以看到她没有土星-海王星的相位，但她有土星-冥王星的相位。为什么这很重要，我稍后会解释。她的本命星盘中，土星-冥王星四分火星。这显然又是一个标志，代表权威（土星）利用性（冥王星）来强迫她、虐待她，形成四分火星的局面。看看这些度数，27度巨蟹座，27度天秤座。而安德鲁的火星在哪？27度摩羯座。
So, Virgenius ascendant and Sun is the same as Andrew's ascendant. And they have exact Mars opposition. So, when you have an exact Mars opposition, there's a strong sexual attraction, but there's a risk of turning into nemesis, you know, soul enemies. It is obvious also that this opposition shows the victimization and that her story is absolutely true. And she was trafficked by him. So, the asteroid Epstein for Virginia is at seven degrees Pisces.
因此，维尔吉尼娅（Virgenius）的上升星座和太阳与安德鲁（Andrew）的上升星座相同。他们之间存在精确的火星对立。当存在精确的火星对立时，会有强烈的性吸引力，但也有可能转变为敌人的风险，成为灵魂宿敌。显然，这种对立也显示了受害者的情况，证实她的故事完全属实，她确实是被他贩卖的。而代表爱普斯坦（Epstein）的小行星在维尔吉尼娅的星盘中位于双鱼座7度。
Look at that. It's exactly on the cusp of her eighth house, which is related to sexuality. And it's exactly opposing her retrograde Venus in Virgo and eighth Virgo. Now, sadly, you know, this whole thing takes its toll. And she dies last year during a Saturn Neptune conjunction on the North note. Not only is it a Saturn Neptune, but the moon and Venus are sandwiched between Saturn Neptune.
看看那个。它正好落在她的第八宫边缘，而第八宫与性有关。而且它正好对冲她位于处女座逆行的金星和第八宫处女座的金星。可悲的是，这一切最终对她造成了伤害。去年，在北交点上发生土星和海王星的合相时，她去世了。不仅如此，月亮和金星还被夹在土星和海王星之间。
Now, if you follow some of my studies and teachings, you know that the death chart captures our journey. How far we've gone, what we ever accomplished and where are we headed. So, we see that for her having Saturn on the North node means that she had for purpose, what she accomplished is to bring that sense of accountability, Venus for relationships with older man.
如果你一直关注我的研究和教导，你会知道死亡图揭示了我们的人生旅程：我们走了多远、取得了什么成就以及我们的未来方向。因此，我们看到，对于她来说，土星位于北交点意味着她的使命是带来某种责任感，而关于她的成就，是与年长男性建立关系。
Saturn is older man Venus, young virgins. She is born with Venus in the sign of the Virgin, opposing Epstein's asteroid. She passes as the moon and Venus, the feminine planets are in the sign of Pisces victimization sandwiched between the lawless, the corrupt Saturn Neptune conjunction. And yet, as much as this shows the corruption, it also shows that her soul, because of the North note, is there has managed to restore some order to bring, you know, those powerful figures to justice and hold them accountable.
土星代表年长的男性，金星代表年轻的处女。她在金星位于处女座时出生，与爱泼斯坦的小行星相对。她在月亮和金星的影响下，看起来像双鱼座中的受害者，夹在无视法律和腐败的土星与海王星的合相之间。然而，尽管这反映了腐败，但因为北交点的存在，她的灵魂仍然设法恢复了一些秩序，将那些有权势的人绳之以法，并让他们承担责任。
Now pay attention, what is fascinating is astrologically Virginia is born with a Saturn Pluto conjunction in Libra and dies with a Saturn Neptune conjunction. Epstein is born with Saturn Neptune in Libra and dies with Saturn Pluto, squaring that. So, she came from a Saturn Pluto, exited in a Saturn Neptune, he came with a Saturn Neptune, exited in a Saturn Pluto.
现在请注意，迷人之处在于，从占星学的角度来看，弗吉尼娅出生时太阳系的土星和冥王星在天秤座相合，而去世时是土星和海王星相合。而爱泼斯坦出生时则是土星和海王星在天秤座相合，去世时则是土星和冥王星相合，并与之前的构成一个直角。所以，弗吉尼娅以土星和冥王星相合来到这个世界，又在土星和海王星相合时离开；而爱泼斯坦以土星和海王星相合来到这个世界，离开时则是土星和冥王星相合。
On those same late Libra degrees, they have the same Saturn. It's, you know, the puzzle of astrology and the enigma showing so graphically the corruption, the abuse, the trafficking is extraordinary. Now, another interesting astrological component, this is the chart of Virginia. Nine months or so, after her passing, you know, she passed in April 2025 and in February, 2026 Andrew is arrested.
在这些晚期天秤座的度数上，他们有同样的土星。你知道，正是这个让人费解的占星之谜，以如此生动的方式展示了腐败、滥用和贩卖是多么的奇特。现在，另一个有趣的占星因素，这是弗吉尼亚的星图。大约九个月后，她于2025年4月去世，然后在2026年2月，安德鲁被逮捕。
So, we look at her chart post-humusly, the chart lives on after your death. And we see that as he is arrested, the North node and palace, the warrior woman, is exactly on her asteroid Epstein, posing her Venus. How interesting of that. I would recommend a talk by Hannah Tanatura, who's going to speak about how charts are activated after death that they live post-humusly. And this is going to, this is scheduled for a lecture with the Cosmic Intelligence Agency, a Nostrilogical Organization. So, check it out. The wife of Andrew was involved with Epstein and was communicating with him and brought her daughters to him when he was released for his first arrest. I mean, what is going on with these people? So, her asteroid Epstein is conjunct her own Pluto Venus. Now, remember, where did we see Venus in Virgo, the Virgins? It's the same Venus as Virginia. Do you think she didn't know about her? I don't think so.
所以，我们在她去世后查看她的星盘，这张星盘在她去世后仍然具有意义。我们注意到，当他被逮捕时，北交点和战士女性小行星帕拉斯正好在她表示爱与关系的小行星爱泼斯坦上方，与她的金星形成对冲。这真是有趣。我建议听一场由Hannah Tanatura主讲的讲座，她将讨论星盘如何在去世后仍然有活力。这个讲座将由占星组织Cosmic Intelligence Agency举办，值得关注。安德鲁的妻子卷入了与爱泼斯坦的纠葛，她曾在爱泼斯坦第一次被捕后与他联系并带女儿去见他。这些人究竟在干什么？她的小行星爱泼斯坦与她自己的冥王星和金星相合。现在，回想一下，我们在哪里见过处女座的金星？这与弗吉尼亚的金星相同。你认为她对此一无所知吗？我不这么认为。
With Pluto, she may have been jealous. But she declares from love to Jeffrey Epstein and she talks to him, if you marry me, we can bring that other woman. And she suggested that she's going, you know, she has a candidate. She has another woman. So, you know, we are exposing, again, in a very Saturn-Neption way, the fall of these big personalities of these, so to speak, role models. Trump, what about Trump? He's asteroid Epstein. Is it three degrees Aquarius in his six-house, opposing Pluto? And so, we know he was friends, friends Aquarius with Epstein. And he denies all charges and, you know, any involvement with the sexual part and the trafficking, of course. But it's very intriguing that the moment the Epstein file came back to surface was last June and July 2025, when Elon Musk, after a tantrum where he was pissed at Trump, said, you know, Trump is on the Epstein files.
冥王星可能让她感到嫉妒，但她声称对杰弗里·爱泼斯坦充满爱意，并对他说，如果你和我结婚，我们可以带上另一个女人。她还暗示她有一个候选人，另一个女人。因此，我们再次以一种非常土星-海王星的方式揭露这些所谓榜样的大人物的堕落。至于特朗普呢？他的“小行星爱泼斯坦”位于他的第六宫水瓶座三度，对冲冥王星。所以，我们知道他与爱泼斯坦是朋友，朋友在占星中表现为水瓶座。他否认所有指控以及与性方面和贩卖行为的任何关联。当然，这些指控让人感到非常好奇。而当埃隆·马斯克在2025年6月和7月的一次因对特朗普的愤怒而发脾气时说道，"特朗普在爱泼斯坦档案中"，使得该档案再次浮出水面，情节更加引人注目。
That was his, you know, his way to reward his good friend is to throw him under the bus. And how is that happening? Is that the moment he throws him under the bus, transiting Pluto is on Trump's Epstein asteroid. And that basically opens up a new, this kind of warms that he's been trying to avoid and dodge, you know. And those who thought that Trump would be the one to bring down the pedophiles, he may, but not willingly. It's not because of his moral compass. It's because of his implication. And, you know, his heart attempts to skip the whole thing. And that's the pattern Neptune, where in his eight house, which is a house of shadows, the house of vulnerabilities.
这就是他的方式，你知道，用这种方式来“奖励”他的好朋友——把他推到麻烦中去。那么这是怎么发生的呢？就在他把朋友推向困境的那一刻，冥王星正经过特朗普的“爱泼斯坦小行星”。这基本上打开了一个他一直试图避免和躲避的“潘多拉魔盒”。那些认为特朗普会揭露恋童癖者的人，他可能会做到，但不是出于自愿。这并不是因为他的道德指引，而是因为他自身的牵连。他想努力避开整个事件，而这正是海王星的影响所在，位于他的第八宫——一个充满阴影和脆弱的宫位。
And of course, the house of power and sexuality. What is interesting, we mentioned how Saturn Neptune can be a very humbling experience and can take down the rock as the water keeps eroding the rock and eroding over time until it crumbles. So Saturn Neptune are in his eighth house, which is a very tricky house, you know, if you have integrity problems, the eighth house is going to expose the sewage, anything that's hidden. This Saturn Neptune, I've talked about it in previous videos is going to reach the five degrees aries Saturn's going to be at five degrees aries in April Neptune next year. And then they're going to oppose his natal Neptune. So by the spring, the Trump is going to have this very powerful opposition, but extremely humbling moment, where there could be a series of events, it could be that the sexual scandal will amplify and it may lead to impeachment and it may lead to all kinds of measures to try to hold him accountable.
当然，还有力量和性的领域。值得注意的是，我们提到过土星与海王星的结合可能是一种非常谦卑的体验，就像水不断侵蚀岩石，直到岩石崩溃一样。这对土星与海王星位于他的第八宫，这个宫位很复杂，如果你有诚信问题，第八宫会揭露隐藏的污秽。之前的视频里我提到过，这对土星与海王星将在明年四月达到白羊座五度，然后它们将对冲他的本命海王星。所以到春天时，特朗普将面临一次非常强烈的对冲，同时也是极度谦卑的时刻。这期间可能会发生一系列事件，其中包括性丑闻的扩大，进而可能导致弹劾，以及可能采取各种措施追究他的责任。
It could be a health issue. It could be a family issue, it could be a financial scandal. So we don't know exactly what form it's taking, but it is gathering and gathering and it's a moment of extreme vulnerability because it's in the eighth house, you know, we may not see it in the public eye. This may be things that are happening behind the scenes, but I suspect that it's not something you can control, it's not something you can keep hidden in under control. So I suspect that there is going to be a leakage of, you know, corruption scandal of some sort. Looking at other aspects of Saturn Neptune, because it's not only about sexual abuse and corruption and moral bankruptcy. At its higher expression, like we say, it is public service, it is the ability to sacrifice my life for a greater purpose in a leadership position.
这可能是一个健康问题，也可能是一个家庭问题，还可能是一个金融丑闻。因此，我们无法确切知道它会以何种形式出现，但这种情况正在不断加剧，这是一种极度脆弱的时刻，因为它涉及到第八宫。可能在公众视线中我们看不到这件事，而是幕后发生的事情。但我怀疑这不是你能掌控的事情，也不是你能藏住或控制住的。因此，我猜测可能会出现某种类型的腐败丑闻泄露。根据土星和海王星的其他方面来看，这不仅仅涉及性虐待、腐败和道德沦丧。在其更高的表现形式中，我们谈到的是公共服务，是在领导职位上为更伟大的目标牺牲自我的能力。
So we see that many leaders, those you like and those you don't like have these aspects, whether it's a Saturn Neptune conjunction, whether it's Saturn in Pisces or Saturn in the 12th house, it's very common in in the life of in the chart of a politician. Another person we can add to this list is Angela Merkel, who was a very respected leader of Germany. So we talked about put in interestingly roseveldt was, you know, instrumental during the depression. And you see that the Saturn Neptune was in the sign of Taurus and he experienced the collapse of the economy, you know, following the crash of the stock market in 1929 leading to the second world war. And the fact that basically it was extreme poverty and everything collapse, everybody went bankrupt. So Saturn Neptune in Taurus, financial collapse, Taurus is the sign of resources. But he becomes the hero that creates social security and reforms, you know, everything on a governmental level to rise up to the challenge and become, you know, an amazing leader, a visionary.
所以我们看到许多政治领袖，无论是你喜欢的还是不喜欢的，都有这些特征，例如土星与海王星的合相、土星位于双鱼座或土星在第十二宫，这在政治人物的星盘中非常常见。我们可以将德国前总理安格拉·默克尔加入这个名单，她是一位备受尊敬的领袖。我们谈到了普京，有趣的是，罗斯福在大萧条时期起到了关键作用。你会看到，当时土星与海王星位于金牛座，他经历了1929年股市崩盘后经济的崩溃，最终导致了第二次世界大战的爆发。当时极度的贫困，经济全面崩溃，人人破产。因此，土星与海王星在金牛座意味着金融崩溃，而金牛座是资源的象征。但罗斯福成为了那个迎接挑战的英雄，通过创立社会保障制度和推动政府层面的改革，成为了一位卓越的领袖和有远见的人。
And most importantly, someone who takes us out of this collapse. So you have the polarity here of put in who wants to restore the power of Russia after its collapse. But in a way that is corrupt, that is aggressive, that involves violence. And you have someone like roseveldt who is actually bringing virtue and integrity and recalibrate solidifies the economy. Another interesting note about roseveldt is that he had polio and you see Taurus has to do with our body. And so the fact that he was, you know, suffered from this infirmity is also captured in the Saturn Neptune conjunction, this kind of imperfection.
最重要的是，一个能带领我们脱离这次崩溃的人。这里形成了一种对比：一方面，有人想在俄罗斯崩溃后重拾其权力，但这种方式充斥着腐败、侵略和暴力；另一方面，则是像罗斯福这样的人，他带来了美德和正直，重新调整并稳固了经济。有趣的是，罗斯福患有小儿麻痹症，而金牛座与我们的身体有关。他身体的这个缺陷也可以在土星和海王星的合相中体现出这种不完美。
And yeah, the body being basically weakened. Three of these figures were assassinated, Lincoln, Kennedy and Indira Gandhi. So this is another expression of Saturn Neptune in a tragic way. Saturn Neptune can represent martyredem, political martyredem. Neptune on its own can lead to the sacrifice. But with Saturn, it's politically motivated. It has an element again of leadership. So we see that three of them paid the price through a Saturn Neptune in their chart. And you know, at least as far as Kennedy is concerned, he was killed in November 63. Guess what? Saturn was squaring Neptune, Saturn in Aquarius Neptune in Scorpio.
好的，基本上就是身体被削弱了。林肯、肯尼迪和英迪拉·甘地这三位人物都被暗杀了。这可以被看作是土星和海王星结合下的另一种悲剧表现。土星与海王星的结合可以代表政治上的殉难。单独的海王星可能引发牺牲，但加上土星，就有了政治动机的成分，并带有领导力的元素。因此，我们看到他们三人都因为星盘中的土星与海王星的组合而付出了生命的代价。至于肯尼迪，他是在1963年11月遇刺的。当时土星正在与海王星呈直角相位，土星在水瓶座，海王星在天蝎座。
Another positive example of integrity and martyredem and rising from something that is deconstructed, weakened, victimized to a place of honor and dignity and integrity is Nelson Mandela. He's born with a Saturn Neptune conjunction and experiences the tremendous abuse of the apartheid regime, the corruption, the, you know, the racial discrimination, the lawlessness. And you know, basically the abuse of power. And because of his activism, he ends up in prison, which is another Saturn Neptune, you know, difficult experience. Because you lose your power, you lose your sovereignty, you are reduced to nothing, you're silenced, you're victimized. So Saturn Neptune can be the authoritarian abuser or the victim of abuse.
另一个展现了正直、奉献精神，并从解体、衰弱和受害状态中崛起，最终获得荣誉与尊严的正面例子是纳尔逊·曼德拉。他生于土星与海王星相合之际，经历了南非种族隔离制度的极大压迫，这个制度充满了腐败、种族歧视和无法无天，实质上是一种权力的滥用。因为他的积极活动，他最终入狱，这也是土星与海王星带来的艰难经历之一。在监狱中，你失去了权力和自由，被削弱至无，遭受沉默和迫害。因此，土星与海王星的结合既可以代表专制者的欺压，也可以是被压迫者的象征。
But after the whole cycle is complete in 1990 as Saturn Neptune meet again, the apartheid regime collapses. At the same time that the Soviet regime collapses. So both of these evil entities are falling into pieces. And Nelson Mandela, you know, rises to power. Not only is he freed, but three years, four years after his liberation, he becomes the first black president of South Africa. So this is a, you know, an example of how Saturn Neptune can restore things in a spiritual way with integrity, if the intentions are there. And at the end of the day, always remember, there is intelligence in this universe with all the suffering, with all the injustice, it's all cycles. The question is, how long does it take? How much collateral damage?
在1990年，当土星与海王星再次相遇，整个周期完成时，南非的种族隔离制度崩溃了。同时，苏联政权也瓦解了。这两个被认为是邪恶的实体都在土崩瓦解。而纳尔逊·曼德拉崛起，得到了应有的权力。他不仅被释放，而且在获释三、四年后，成为南非的首位黑人总统。这是一个例子，说明如果有正确的意图，土星和海王星可以以一种精神的方式、带着正直恢复某些事物。归根结底，请记住，宇宙中是有智慧的，尽管有痛苦和不公，这一切都是循环。问题在于，这需要多久？会产生多少附带伤害？
Another amazing graphic illustration of the power of Saturn Neptune is in the Sagrada Familia. This is the church that was built by the famous architect, Anthony Gaudi. And his architecture is phenomenal. It's very curvy. So the first steps of construction started in 1882. The same Saturn Neptune conjunction in Torres that Teddy Roosevelt was born under. That was the beginning of building this temple. So Torres has to do with architecture, with temples. Neptune is spirituality. So this Saturn Neptune in Torres shows the house of God. Now, that would be true for any church or any temple. But this is one of the most fantastic architectural prowess, architectural marvel in Barcelona.
关于土星-海王星力量的另一幅惊人图解画作就是圣家堂。这座教堂由著名建筑师安东尼·高迪设计，他的建筑作品非常卓越，以其曲线鲜明的风格著称。建筑的最初施工始于1882年，在同一年，老罗斯福总统出生时土星和海王星在金牛座相合。金牛座通常与建筑和庙宇相关，而海王星则象征着精神性。因此，金牛座中土星与海王星的结合象征着上帝的殿堂。虽然这对任何教堂或庙宇都适用，但圣家堂在巴塞罗那是最令人惊叹的建筑杰作之一。
Now, it doesn't get more Saturn Neptune than this. Look at the structure of the Sagrada Familia. It's on the one hand, super solid, you know, the Saturn structure. But it is very fluid and very. Neptune, you know, it has these very interesting shapes that look like erosion, you know, water going through. And that was his intention. Now, if you look at the chart of Gandhi, he was born with a Saturn in Torres. So he had his Saturn return when he started this project, sex style Neptune. So he had it natally, but it got, you know, it was activated. It became his labor, you know, his most significant contribution when he started in 1882.
现在，没有比这更能体现土星与海王星结合的了。看看圣家堂的结构。一方面，它非常坚固，就像土星的结构。然而，它也非常流畅，充满海王星风格。建筑上有些非常有趣的形状，看起来像是被侵蚀过，仿佛水流过似的。这正是他的设计初衷。再看看甘地的星盘，他出生时土星位于金牛座。当他开始这个项目时，他正经历着土星回归，与海王星形成六分相。这种配置在他出生时就存在，但当他在1882年开始这个项目时，这种力量被激活，成为他最重要的贡献。
Now, Saturn is time. Neptune is timeless. How do you think the construction went as far as schedule? It was on its own clock. This church is still under construction, 144 years later. But listen to this. On the day of the exact Saturn Neptune conjunction, February 20, they completed the cross, which is the highest piece of the church, standing 172 meters tall. It's the highest building in Europe, I believe. But on the day of that exact conjunction is when they finally put that piece on, and it's the tallest piece, which is Aries, the head. Aries represents the head and they put that on this conjunction.
现在，土星代表时间，而海王星则超越时间。你认为这项建筑工程在进度方面做得怎么样？它按照自己的时钟进行。这座教堂仍在施工中，已经持续了144年。但请听一下这个：在土星和海王星精确相合的那一天——2月20日，他们完成了教堂最高的部分，即十字架，它高达172米。我认为这是欧洲最高的建筑物。而恰好在相合的那一天，他们终于安装上了这个最高的部分，象征着白羊座的头部。白羊座代表头部，而他们就在这个相合之日安装了这个部分。
And it is scheduled to be completed in June, 2026. The whole project for the 100 years anniversary of Gaudi's passing. So where has Saturn Neptune been visiting? It's been on the sun of the Sagrada Familia construction. For all this past year, and it is going to be complete as it is in Aries on the Venus. That's how astrology works. These are the big cycles because this church was first initiated, was first born through a Saturn Neptune conjunction. It's going to respond to the Saturn Neptune cycle. And it's coming to a completion with this conjunction, 144 years later.
翻译成中文：
计划将在2026年6月完成。这整个项目是为了纪念高迪逝世100周年。那么，土星和海王星一直在哪里运转呢？它们一直都在圣家堂建设的太阳上。过去的一年里都是如此，当它位于白羊座的金星上时，项目将会完成。这就是占星学的运作方式。这是一个重要的周期，因为这座教堂最初是在土星和海王星的合相下启动的。现在经过了144年，这个合相也将迎来一个完成。
So much to learn and so much to explore as we look at not only the timing factor, you know, the forever delayed completion of construction, Saturn Neptune. It's on its own timeline. It's on its own schedule. And this captures how complex, how intricate this conjunction is because Saturn is so much about the physical and the structure. And Neptune is so formless and eternal. How do you bring eternity with time together? To summarize this is to understand this church. It captures the essence of what Saturn Neptune is about because it brings the timeless into form. Into time and space.
我们有太多需要学习和探索的东西，尤其是在考虑时间因素时。比如，土星与海王星的结合，这种建造的完成总是被无限期地推迟。它有自己的时间表和进度计划，这揭示了这一组合的复杂性，因为土星强调物质和结构，而海王星则象征无形与永恒。如何将永恒与时间结合起来？理解这一点本质上就类似于理解这座教堂，因为它将永恒转化为有形，融入到时间和空间之中。这正是土星与海王星组合的精髓所在。
So we experience something divine, something of a higher nature of a spiritual nature within the reality of time. What brings Saturn and Neptune together? At its best, it's what we call spiritual integrity. This is why quite often people born with this aspect can feel that living in this body and being in this world is so restrictive. They may feel like they don't relate to the values. And that's one of the reason why many of them get lost and end up disoriented and not finding role models. But the moment they step into the spiritual realm and they find a sense of order through spiritual models and practices and teachers, they can become themselves the masters and the channels.
因此，我们在时间的现实中体验到某种神圣的东西，一种更高层次的精神本质。那么，土星和海王星是什么联系在一起呢？在其最佳状态下，这就是我们所说的精神诚信。这也是为什么往往拥有这种相位的人会觉得生活在这个身体里、存在于这个世界中非常受限的原因之一。他们可能认为自己与社会的价值观格格不入。这也是为什么他们中许多人会迷失方向，找不到榜样。但一旦他们进入精神领域，通过精神导师、实践和模型找到了秩序感，他们就能成为引导者和传递者。
And that's a lot of what Gaudi did because if you can look at this piece of architecture, this is not just coming from his own personal experience. It's a channeled concept. It's a channeled design. It's so special, magical and yet very physical. To better understand Saturn and Neptune, I obviously recommend the book of Neptune. This book will change your life if you understand it and if you read it patiently. It's translated into Spanish, Dutch, Turkish and now Japanese. So if you haven't yet, check it out.
这正是高迪所做的许多事情之一，因为如果你能看到这件建筑作品，它不仅仅是来自他个人的经验。这是一个通过沟通而得到的概念，一个通过沟通而得出的设计。它是如此特别、神奇，同时又非常具体。为了更好地理解土星和海王星，我强烈推荐《海王星》这本书。如果你能耐心地阅读并理解它，它将改变你的生活。这本书已经被翻译成西班牙语、荷兰语、土耳其语，现在还有日语。所以如果你还没有读过，赶紧去看看吧。
And I hope to see you in one of my classes. This is deep material. It speaks to the soul. I hope because we're not just looking at outcomes. We try to understand what's the intention. What is the intelligence behind our charts? So it's a journey, it's a deep journey into the great mysteries of life and the mysteries of your life. I pray for days of justice, accountability and a time where we can restore compassion, spiritual order in a way that is in harmony with nature, in harmony with nature. In harmony with our BE, in full integrity. Blessings.
我希望能在我的课堂上见到你。这些内容很深奥，是触动心灵的。我希望我们不仅仅关注结果，而是努力去理解背后的意图。我们想探究我们的图表中蕴藏的智慧。这是一段旅程，一段深入探索生命伟大奥秘和你人生奥秘的旅程。我祈祷正义和责任的日子会到来，希望我们能够恢复一种与自然和谐、与我们的本真和谐、充满完整性的怜悯和精神秩序。祝福你。