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But we begin with earning season heating up and first up is Netflix. First quarter results were mixed with profits a little higher than expected overall revenue a little lower. The company also announced it is delaying the rollout of its plan to crack down on password sharing. Jason, a lot of focus on Netflix this week but for the first time in a long time there wasn't really a lot of talk about something that we typically hear which is their subscriber number. Do you think Netflix is moving into a new phase here? No question about it I think.
I mean in the past to your point there the focus was always subscribers, subscribers, subscribers right? That is absolutely taking a back seat now in the real story for this quarter revolved around the page sharing and advertising but in regard to metrics that matter. I mean the company is now encouraging us to focus on revenue growth and operating margin right? That's going to be the indicator of success and profitability for the business and its subscribers.
It's almost like a footnote in the release now. I mean to that point they did bring in 1.8 million subscribers so that's good news and revenue when you exclude currency effects, grew 8% operating margin down a little bit but they really based that on currency impacts as well. Now to the page sharing and the advertising, first page sharing it is slow going. This seems to be deliberate on their part. They want to make sure they get it right and maintain a positive member experience. So what that's going to do is it's going to push growth out a little bit and I think that is probably what has investors on edge right now but they see that accelerating in the back half of the year and the reason why is because they've already rolled this out in Canada and they're seeing positive signs but it's kind of like one of those things it got worse before it got better but it did start to get better.
So I think that gives them reason to believe that domestically here the page sharing will pay off. On the advertising front, I was a little bit taken back by a point they made in the release there. In the US, the ads plan already has a total average revenue per member which is the subscription plus the ad component there. It's greater than the standard plan that they offer. Now that's $15.49 per month. So I think that goes to show that while Netflix was a little bit late to the ad game, clearly the consumer has got some tolerance for advertising right? Because I think most other streaming services have that dynamic or at least that offering. So while that initial target of 40 million ad clients or ad subscribers might have seen a little bit glass half full when they stated that. Now it kind of seems like maybe they could probably get there by the end of the quarter or by the end of quarter three or maybe by the end of the year.
Jason, that really caught me well too and I was very surprised by that and encouraged as a Netflix owner and a follow of the stock. They're targeted for their free cash flow. This is becoming what Netflix, it is becoming a free cash flow growth story. There being more disciplined on the movie launches and the creation of the content and on the cost structure, I think. So understanding that this is a real free cash flow generating business and maybe not like what it was over the past few years and I think that's what investors are now starting to realize. This is what the power is of Netflix and that free cash flow I think is what's going to drive the stock higher.
Yeah, you're right there. And I think something to note there is too is that they've pulled back a little bit on content spend this year. And that impacted the financials positive. Like cash flow was a little bit better than I think what we were anticipating. Now the flip side of that is they anticipate getting back to sort of that normalized budget in 2024, budgeting for around $17 billion in content spend. So that'll probably play out on those cash flow numbers a little bit next year. But I think that they can counter that with the accelerating performance there in paid sharing as they continue to roll that out.
Tesla has been cutting prices on some of its vehicles and that price cutting showed up in the company's first order results. The earnings per share net income and lower margins combined to send shares of Tesla down more than 10% this weekend. Chris, like any business, it's coming down for Tesla down to pricing into volumes and making sure that mixes right and clearly Tesla this quarter is leading with the volume game as Elon Musk had. We've taken a view that pushing for higher volumes in a larger fleet is the right choice here versus a lower volume and higher margin. However, we expect our vehicles over time will be able to generate significant profit through the autonomy business.
So they delivered 423,000 vehicles this year. I was up 36%. But the Model 3 and the Model Y drove most of that growth. The higher margin Model S and Model Y made up less than 11,000 of the deliveries, Chris. That was down 27%. Revenue's up 23%. 3 have the last four quarters though, we've seen slowing revenue growth. They've lowered prices several times and we're between 15 to 25% or so just this year. Although just interestingly, I think they just increased them right after the earnings call to boost them up back a little bit.
Operating margin, which is a really metric that I think so many investors are following both on the car side and overall. The total company operating margin fell to 11.2% versus 19.2%. And the growth margin, the automotive growth margin fell to that 20% range. And that's where investors are getting a little bit nervous because that's the one they want to see higher. Interestingly though, on that, they still remain on the operating margin well, the highest in the industry and more than double the other major car makers. So they have the profit room and the business model and this is really now a land grab. They are being very aggressive in the market, very aggressive on pricing to drive the volumes to be able to continue to drive towards 1.8 million cars delivered this year, which would be up about 37%.
Finally, Chris, interesting. The storage and the energy business continues to gain momentum. The energy storage deployed was up 360% to 3.9 gigawatt hours now versus less than one gigawatt hours a year ago. And they expect the storage deployment growth to really exceed the volume, the growth in the vehicles over time. So we can't forget about that energy business. It is a growing part of the Tesla story. But overall, I think this is what we kind of started to expect when we saw the aggressiveness that Tesla was being in the market price on their prices or their cars.
Chairs of intuitive surgical up more than 10% this week after first quarter results were highlighted by more procedures. And Jason, intuitive surgical management forecast that they expect that trend to continue throughout the year. Yeah, good news indeed.
It's been a bit of a bumpy ride over the last three years. But intuitive surgical is absolutely benefiting from this return to normal. If you look at the numbers, it certainly bears that out. Excluding currency impacts, they saw revenue for the quarter up 17%. Modest earnings per share growth as well. You mentioned procedures worldwide procedure growth 26% that came in well above management's own expectations there. And ultimately, when you look at a lot of this company's money is made on instruments and accessories because of those procedures, that revenue grew 22%.
And so really they are seeing more and more being done with their equipment, which is great. Average selling prices remain stable and that's good. And, you know, intuitive is really well known for the Da Vinci system, right? The other system they have, the Ion system, which is focused on broncoscopy, they placed 55 systems for the quarter versus 34, one year ago. And back to the procedures thing with Ion, procedures were up 159%. So clearly physicians are finding use in that platform there. One of the neat things about this company is one of the reasons why I recommended it in our immersive technology service is the virtual reality angle there. They saw simulation subscriptions grow 36% as the virtual reality training continues to gain traction.
I think one thing to keep an eye on with this company, I'm going to ding them a little bit here AC. You know, we like to see companies buying back their shares because they feel like there's value there. And to be clear, I mean, intuitive surgical is bought back a lot of shares from the beginning of 2022 to the end of the first quarter this year. They repurchase 12.6 million shares. The problem is you go all the way back to 2018. Share accounts actually up 2%. That's not what you like to see. So it's tough to pull off. It's easy if you get if you're not issue shares. Exactly. But, but you know, I think all in all, I mean that that does not outweigh all of the good that this company is doing. I'd love to see those repurchases ultimately bring that share account down. That'd be one thing I'll pay attention to.
The hits keep on coming for Procter and Gamble. Third quarter profits in revenue came in higher than expected for the consumer products giant. Company also raised sales guidance for the full fiscal year and Andy, the pricing power that we've seen from PNG over the last year or so is starting to show up in the form of higher gross margins. Well, gosh, this is kind of the anti Tesla here. They are all about pricing increases. Another boost, they've increased prices 10% this quarter. I think that was on top of a 10% increase last quarter. And like you said, Chris, throughout the year, the revenue is up about 3.5% earnings up about 3% to $1.37. Operating margins this continues to be a very profitable company up 21% at 21.2%. That's about flat from a year ago. The volumes are not all the volume growth, not all that impressive. Really, you know, you look across it. It's basically in fabric and home care, which is like tied and downy and swiffer down 5%, but they were up 13% in pricing. And that's the story we saw. And that increased on that that helped really drive a lot of the gross margin growth of 150 basis points. They are spending more on marketing, Chris, sales and marketing expenses as a percentage of sales was up 100 basis points.
So here you go with Procter & Gamble, sales of 25 times earnings, earnings growth of about 4%, the little 2.5% dividend yield. They generate the same amount of revenue. They generate more than 3 billion in free cash flow, buy back stock. And so you have this very low volatile stock that is probably I think going to grow in the mid single digits. And if that's what you're looking for, that's probably going to be fine for the Procter & Gamble story, but don't expect too many fireworks. They got to pay close attention to the pricing though, right? Because if consumer spending starts to dip, if we fall into a recession, they got to ratchet that back.
I think so, but they do have some levers on this side, Chris, and they count on the money on whether the expense management or basically hopefully drive volumes because the pricing now is not nearly what it was when they are increasing price.
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Welcome back to Motley Full Money, Chris Hill here in Studio with Jason Moser and Andy Cross. American Express posted record revenue in the first quarter, but higher costs kept the profit line lower than Wall Street was hoping for. Andy, this is yet another quarter where we see the trend of AMACs gaining popularity with millennials and Gen Z. Yeah, gosh, Chris, traveling entertainment spending overall up 39 percent, but what was interesting from the results is millennial and Gen Z makes up 60 percent of all new consumer growth and the millennial and Gen Z spending on the platform was up 28 percent. That was the highest growing group of all the groups, all the cohorts at AMACs, tracks, revenues up 32 percent, the international spending up 29 percent, cost up 22 percent, so that kind of kept a little bit of a lid on the profit margin. They're seeing higher customer engagement and the increase in the usage and travel benefits. I know I've been using them for that personally, but that's actually starting to impact a little bit of the profit picture.
欢迎回到Motley Full Money节目,我是Chris Hill,今天我们有Jason Moser和Andy Cross在工作室里。美国运通首季营收创下历史新高,但成本增加使利润低于华尔街预期。Andy,这已经是AMACs获得千禧一代和Z一代青睐这一趋势持续数个季度了。是啊,Chris,旅游娱乐支出增长39%,但有趣的是根据结果,千禧一代和Z一代占所有新的消费增长的60%,而他们在该平台上的支出增长了28%。这是AMACs所有群体中增长最快的一组。跟踪收入增长32%,国际支出增长29%,成本增长22%,所以这在一定程度上限制了利润率。他们看到了更高的客户参与度,使用旅游福利的增加。我个人就一直在使用它们,但实际上这开始影响了一些利润状况。
The biggest news is the increased loans and card receivables. That was up 19 percent. Now, that was the slowest growth we've seen in five quarters, but they're starting to see more and more provisions for some of those losses as the economy starts to go into a point of a little bit more uncertainty. So they continue to affirm the guidance of 15 to 70 percent revenue growth a little bit less on the earnings per share growth, but still pretty attractive. They're paying 15 times for a business for a dividend yield of 1.5 percent. For American Express, probably won't get the same kind of growth you're going to see this year, but overall, that's not a bad price for a business that buys back a lot of stock and returns a lot of cash back to shareholders.
Do you think that's a demonstration of the power of that brand? AMX is almost like an aspirational brand in some ways. With younger generations seeing that, it just strikes me that maybe that's an aspirational brand. It seems to demonstrate the power of that American brand.
The reason for their new cards growth was from fee-based cards. So it wasn't like they're just taking a whole bunch of no fee cards.
他们新卡的增长原因是基于收费的卡片,所以并不是说他们就拿了一堆免费的卡片。
Johnson and Johnson's first quarter profits in revenue came in higher than expected. They raised guidance for the full fiscal year and boosted the dividend. And despite all that goodness, Jason, shares of J&J still down a bit this week. Now that's okay. They have a little bit of a spin-off coming up here soon, Chris, but it was a very encouraging quarter for the company, adjusted operational sales, which is ultimately just revenue excluding currency effects. We're up across all three segments. Consumer health up 11.3%. Pharmaceutical up 7.2%. Medtech up 6.4%.
That all translated to adjusted earnings of $2.68. If you remember, they acquired Abiumed, which closed in December. That gives the Medtech segment now 12 platforms that generate over $1 billion in sales every year. I mean, this is a steady of businesses it gets.
Management approved a 5.3% increase in the dividend. That makes it the 61st consecutive year of dividend increases. And that ensures their dividend king status remains in place.
管理层批准了5.3%的股息增长。这是连续第61年的股息增长。这确保了他们的股息王地位仍然存在。
The big question though does really remain in the spin-off of the consumer business, which will happen by the end of the year. That will ultimately be called Kenview, not really sure the impetus there. But we can look forward to December 5th, where they will have an investor day, where we'll get a lot more information on how these two new companies will function.
DR Horton's first quarter profits came in higher than expected. Couple that with encouraging guidance. Chairs of DR Horton up more than 8% this week and hitting a new all-time high end. It was that guidance, Chris. The net sale orders was up 73% from the first quarter. This is their fiscal second quarter from the first quarter. So the trend is continuing to be very healthy looking ahead.
DR Horton的第一季度利润高于预期。加上令人鼓舞的指导方针,DR Horton的股价本周上涨了超过8%,并创出新的历史高点。正是那些建议起到了作用,Chris。净销售订单从第一季度增长了73%。这是他们的财政第二季度,相比第一季度,趋势仍然非常健康。
I guess some very uncertain environment, even though the stock is up 44% for the past year. Homes closed was just shy of 20,000 down 1% still very attractive. This kind of a market. Home building revenue at 7.5 billion. Flat to last year net income at 9.42 million. Pretax margin fell to 15.6 from 23.5%. A year ago driven by lower home sales margins. They've had to offer some incentives and they've had lower home prices on average and lot costs are up 5%.
Overall, cancellation rate up a little bit but still within a very respectable manner. They wrote down some of their inventory and impairments. But overall, DR Horton continuing to get it done.
You have a stock that sells at less than 10 times earnings with a little bit of a 1% yield. It's a pretty good stock when I look at the opportunity for a home building leader. This is the biggest home builder in America. Am I wrong to be encouraged by what that means for housing in general?
你手头有一只股票,价格不到市盈率的10倍,收益率为1%。我认为这是一只相当不错的股票,尤其是作为一个住宅建筑市场领导者的机会看来更加值得考虑。这是美国最大的房屋建筑商。我认为这对整个住房市场的意义 should lead to some optimism. Am I wrong?
Well, I think you should not be wrong. They are not wrong. I think it is encouraging when you think about the amount of home building that we need to see in this country to handle the demand. I think it's very attractive for the market.
Overall, the stocks have all run from their very bottom low but still long term probably an attractive place to put some capital.
总的来说,股票已经从它们极低点开始全线上扬,但从长期来看,它可能仍是一个有吸引力的投资地点。
In 2020, Lulu Lemon bought Mirror, the at home fitness company for $500 million and acquisition that has gone so badly, Lulu Lemon has had to write down almost the entire cost. This week, multiple outlets reported that Lulu Lemon is now looking to sell Mirror to Hydro, a private startup company that sells connected rowing machines.
Jason, how much do you think Hydro is willing to pay for this thing that they had to write down? I love Chris, he's just not afraid of men's words. Right?
I mean, in the words of Ron Burgundy, that escalated quickly. This was something that happened, I think, very quickly. Now, I don't know how optimistic we all were with this acquisition in the first place. It happened in a very abnormal time.
In hindsight, it's not that big of a surprise seeing that they're doing this, given how the rest of the fitness home thesis has played out. I mean, we've seen Peloton with very much the same trouble. The flip side of that we're seeing companies like Apple really doubling down on the digital fitness experience. That ultimately looks like what Lulu Lemon is trying to do as well.
This reminded me a lot of underarmers acquisition of my fitness pal and Domundo back in the day, which they ultimately sold to an investment firm for $345 million. They acquired it for about $500 million, sold over $345 million. It wasn't a total loss. I'm not so sure that Lulu Lemon is going to be able to get away with this one, because they've already written off close to $450 million of this deal. And so, I mean, they're clearly kind of a desperate seller here. And so, you know, it's something that doesn't really jive with their business. They're more of a desperate seller. I'd be very interested to see what they fetch for this.
All right, Jason Moser and Andy Cross, guys, we will see you a little bit later in the show. But up next, we're going to take a closer look at Apple CEO Tim Cook's trip to India with our guest, Bill Mann. Stay right here. You're listening to Motley Full Money.
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My bills are all due and the babies need shoes, but I'm busted. Cotton is down to a quarter of pound. And I'm.
我的账单都到期了,孩子们需要鞋子,但我身无分文。棉花的价格已经下降了四分之一磅。我很穷。
Welcome back to Motley Full Money. I'm Chris Hill. Bill Mann is the director of small cap research at the Motley Full. He joins me now.
欢迎回到 Motley Full Money。我是 Chris Hill。Bill Mann 是 Motley Full 的小市值研究主管,他现在加入了我。意思是:Motley Full Money节目再次回归,主持人是Chris Hill,Motley Full的小市值研究主管Bill Mann也加入了我们。
Thanks for being here.
感谢你在这里。这句话的意思是表示感激对方的到来或陪伴。
Hey, Chris. How are you?
嗨,克里斯。你好吗?
I'm doing well. And the reason I wanted to talk with you is because it's earning season, my favorite time of year. But one of the things I do recognize about earning season is particularly as we are starting to ramp it up, we get so focused. It's easy to get focused on the companies that are reporting, particularly the larger companies here in the U.S. And because of that, we are inevitably as investors missing things, particularly outside the United States. And you're always the first person I think of on the investing team when I want to talk about investing opportunities outside the U.S.
So let's start with China. Okay. For any number of reasons. But you mentioned something to me that sort of surprised me. And maybe I shouldn't be surprised that China has somewhat quietly become the number two exporter of automobiles in the world. Isn't that something? You tell me because you can look at it and say, well, wait a minute, you know, you look at the population, the manufacturing capability. On the other hand, yeah, it is kind of surprising, particularly when we think about cars outside the United States, we think of Japan, we think of Germany, we don't necessarily think of China. Yeah, in fact, Japan and Germany, Japan Germany and the U.S. is kind of the list in terms of car manufacturers. You know, there's Swedish cars that we know about in English cars in French, but it really does seem like it is those three. And it is overstating to say that it came out of nowhere.
But earlier this year, Elon Musk came out and said he expected that the biggest competition that Tesla would face in electric vehicles was going to be a Chinese company. So people who are in the industry have probably recognized that there is a threat coming from China or a competitive threat because it's actually kind of okay because a lot of the cars that are being exported from China, for example, are Tesla's and Volkswagen's and name plates like that that you would not necessarily recognize as being Chinese. But China's capacity has grown about 60% over the last year in terms of number of cars. And it had never exported more than a million cars in a year. And it's just grown so quickly that I don't think that, yeah, I don't think that it is too much to say that it is something that's snuck up on a lot of people.
What do you think that means in terms of messaging from automakers like Ford and General Motors? You know, made in America is a tagline that works for a lot of businesses. You made the point about Tesla and Volkswagen, a US automaker and a German automaker producing cars in China. Do you think that's going to matter in the automotive business here in the US? Do you think where the vehicle originated is going to matter?
You know, I would have to say that it probably doesn't, right? You don't really know. I mean, it's clear to you, they will tell you on the manufacturer's statement. But if you buy a BMW in this country, it is not abundantly clear whether it has been built in the US or in Germany or even in a third country. So I'm not sure that it matters that all that much.
The thing to be that's interesting about the Chinese manufacturing push that we've seen is it is also come at a period of time in which for the first time, I don't know, let's call it in a century, that the type of manufacturing because of the type of fuel stock that's being used has shifted. And so China has had car manufacturers for a bunch of years. But what they have not been able to really get past was the fact that they didn't have a whole lot of credibility in internal combustion engine automobiles. But since everything seems to be moving to electric vehicles and that is the majority of their experts, exports are in EVs that there isn't really a country that they're competing with anymore, right? You don't have an enormous amount of German EV credibility. You don't have a whole lot of US based credibility except for this massive thing called Tesla, which is not to say that the manufacturers aren't doing it and that they aren't good at it, but it's not what they're known for.
So China in some respects is coming into a little bit of a vacuum for the first time in this industry in decades.
因此,在某些方面,中国在这个行业中进入了几十年来第一次出现的一点真空状态。
Can you think about EVs? How concerned should people be with regards to the number of charging stations here in the United States? Because you hear anecdotally, well, it's a lot easier to fill up your car with gas than it is to charge your car from 5% all the way up to 100% that sort of thing. It doesn't seem to be problematic now, but doesn't the number of charging stations have to keep pace with the number of EVs that are on the road because at the moment, that does not appear to be the case.
No, and we haven't hit a point in time in which you have a huge amount of stress. Now it bears reminding that several companies, primarily Tesla, have their own charging network, and that goes back to a point in time when EVs were first really coming out onto the road in a large way, and Tesla had offered to share its technology and the other even potential manufacturers said, no.
So that's why there is, in this country, networks that are kind of overlapping each other. And EVN is in the process of building its own charging networks, so it kind of depends on what you mean. So for long haul driving, which is for most people in individual passenger cars, that of a minority of what they do, yeah, there is going to come a period of time in which a network will have to continue to grow, and there are going to be all sorts of transmission and distribution challenges that come to the utilities. But it bears remembering that with electric vehicles, unlike ICEs, you can actually refuel them at home.
So in a lot of ways, the network that is required is entirely different from the network of gas stations that were required out there, because I don't know if you know anybody who has a gas station at their house, I don't. I don't, but now I'm thinking, that might be a nice little feature. It turns out you might not know this, though, Chris, that the stuff that auto fuel is made from is a little bit flammable. So there are other considerations behind besides this might be nice.
That's a good tip. Let's move on to Apple, because this week Apple opened a store in Mumbai. It is the company's first store in India. CEO Tim Cook was there, was also meeting with the Prime Minister. Let's start with the opportunity for Apple, because at the moment, when you look at the smartphone market in India, Apple has less than 5% of the market share. I saw one analyst compare the opportunity for Apple today in India to the opportunity they had 15, 20 years ago in China. Do you think that's a reasonable comparison?
It's a little bit different, because when they were going into China, it wasn't like they were going into a market in which smartphones already existed. So you're talking about an industry in which, or a market, I should say, in which they will have to displace existing smartphone manufacturers. Now Apple is really, really good at doing that. And one of the things that it bears remembering about India is that it is 1.4 billion people.
But it's got a middle class by some estimates of 300 million people, which is essentially the size of the United States. So we tend to think of India as being a developing economy. And it very much is, it has a massive, massive amount of people who have disposable income. So for whom, the ticket price of an iPhone is not going to necessarily be something that would, you know, that they would not be willing to do. Part of this is marketing. Part of this is also manufacturing, as Apple has increasingly made moves to diversify its manufacturing base.
And Cook has made no real secret about the fact that he's looking to take some of what they have been doing in China for a long time and move it to India. What is a reasonable expectation for investors in terms of the timeline for making that happen? And what if anything it does to move the already impressive profitability needle at Apple? So I don't think that there's any accident that Tim Cook also recently went to China. And he did it in a very visible way, met with leaders, you know, and he was given an incredibly warm welcome when he came to China very little, Apple to date has moved very little of its manufacturing out of China.
And you might ask why it is that a company would be so careful because when they look at China, it is in a lot of ways as we learned during the pandemic, a risk because it became a single point of failure for them. But it's not like that logistics network and the supply network can just be lift repeated into India right away. And if they manage to make the Chinese angry in the process, that's not good news either because China does have the capacity to really, really mess with Apple. It doesn't seem like it's not like China is threatening Apple right now. So they have a very good relationship with the company.
I would not expect Apple in any way to get out of China. I think when people think that they are not really thinking through the actual advantages of manufacturing in China might be what he is the needle that he is trying to thread is to say we need to have some of this manufacturing elsewhere. So it's not this or that, it's this and that. So that's why I think the China visit and the India visit were so closely tied together.
Last thing and then I'll let you go. We've talked about India, we've talked about China. What's a really under the radar country that has gotten your attention over the last few weeks in terms of investment opportunities, whether it's an entire industry or just you found this little company in some little corner of the world. Yeah, so for me, it's hard because when I talk about Brazil, one of the quips about Brazil is that it's the country of the future and it always will be. But Brazil has a couple of things going forward. The one thing that it has is it has incredibly sophisticated, incredibly healthy mining companies. And when you see a lot of people talking about zero emissions and a lot of the development that's going to happen, it's going to come with a huge amount of demands on mining companies and natural resource companies and so I think people are really underestimating just how powerful a position that Brazil is in right now.
This is why I always love talking to him. Bill Mann, thanks so much for being here. Hey, thanks Chris. Up next, Jason Moser and Andy McCross return with a couple of stocks on their radar. Stay right here. You're listening to Motley Full Money.
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Welcome back to Motley Full Money. Chris Hill here in studio once again with Jason Moser and Andy Cross. Guys, if you've been to the grocery store lately and you've wandered down the snack aisle or the breakfast cereal aisle, you might have noticed some of the offerings are getting smaller, not the boxes Jason, the food.
欢迎回到Motley Full Money。克里斯·希尔在工作室里,再次与杰森·莫瑟和安迪·克罗斯一起。如果你最近去过杂货店,漫步在小吃货架或早餐麦片货架上,你可能会注意到其中一些产品的大小变小了,而不是盒子缩小了,而是里面的食物。
Over the past few months, General Mills, hostess brands and Pepsi's Frito Lay division have been rolling out many versions of breakfast cereals, twinkies and Doritos and it appears to be resonating with at least some consumers, one company executive was quoted in the Wall Street Journal as saying, it's about the backseat of the minivan test. If you're handing something back in the car seat, you want it eaten, you don't want it smeared and everywhere else. Andy, I think we can all associate with this. I like this move. I like that they're trying new things. I like, I can definitely empathize with that quote. I first really saw this when Oreo cookies came out with thinner versions of their cookies and I was like, this is just, this was made for me because now I can eat like a pack of it but not feel like I'm all, all that guilty.
I Chris, you are seeing, it's like the opposite of the supersized days. They're just like kind of like continuing to shrink, not just the packaging and what's in the package but actually the physical looking feel of the things that we're buying. So it's a margin game and they're playing the margin game. Yeah, it's a little weird to me that it took this long. I mean, clearly the candy company's nailed this way back when with Halloween candy. I mean, Crystal nailed it with their little burgers, right? So I mean, better late than never. I will say while I am very fascinated, I got to believe those little mini cinnamon toast crunch or just sublime. Not terribly, not terribly, I don't feel the same way in regard to Doritos, man. I mean, I just, I don't know. I feel like the Doritos could be messier, but maybe this is to bring a pack to the margin game. I will just point out shares of Pepsi, General Mills and Hostess brands. All three of those over the past year are outpacing the S&P 500 by more than 10 percentage points. I'm just saying it's not a coincidence. Size is innovation.
Let's get to the stocks on our radar. Our man behind the glass, Dan Boyd is going to hit you with a question. Andy you're up first. What are you looking at this week? I'm looking at tractor supply, symbol TSCO. Listen, I'm a fan of the hit show Yellowstone, which should be back this summer to finish up season five. I'm putting on my rancher cowboy hat to look at tractor supply, tractor supply, commonly calls itself the largest rural retailer in the U.S. targeting the needs of recreation or farmers, ranchers and all those who enjoy the rural lifestyle. So 27.3 billion dollar company founded more than 85 years ago. It operates more than 2,000 stores across 49 states. Most of those stores are in rural locations and they have done just a fabulous job speaking to a lot of people who have fled the cities and moved to the world country or outside the cities to get a different environment. They can work remotely and they can embrace their rancher or embrace their farmer. They've been remodeling a lot of their stores under project fusion, which brings more of a contemporary and convenient experience to include more digital tools and improve layout. They're building out a distribution network with three new distribution centers announced on top of the nine they already have an operation. They've grown for 30 consecutive years. So when I look at tractor supply, I think it's a really interesting attractor. The stock is a little bit pricey at 24 times, 23 estimates, but you get a little 1.6% dividend yield with it. Dan, question about tractor supply? Absolutely Chris. Do you think tractor supply is ever going to rebrand? Because honestly, I was confused when I learned that tractor supply doesn't actually sell tractors and it's more of a standard retail and almost lifestyle brand at this point. Do you think a rebranding is in their future? No, I do not think it's in their future.
Jason Moser, what's on your radar? Paying attention to Amazon, ticker, AMZN. They have earnings coming out. This is coming Thursday. Stocks have a strong start to the year up around 25%. There's obviously been a lot of talk here lately as to whether Andy Jassy is really up for the task. Should we expect to see Jeff Bezos stepping back in? I think that's highly unlikely and frankly, Jassy's kind of cleaning up some of the mess that happened under Bezos' watch. But I think we're going to see a big focus on cost controls here in the call and to put some context around that they doubled their fulfillment center footprint that they built over the prior 25 years. And then they had to accelerate building the last mile transportation network that's now the size of UPS. If you look at the fulfillment costs, fulfillment was 16.8% of total operating expenses in 2022. You go back to 2017 and that number was just 14.5%. So I think the cost controls will be a big theme of the call. Dan, question about Amazon? Not really a question. Chris, more of a comment. Jason Moser, breaking new ground with a little known company, Amazon.com here on Motley Full Money. You know, I love Dan's comments. The questions can sometimes come out of left field. The comments are always entertaining. That's why we love you, Dan. What do you want to add to your watch list, Dan? Well, I love you too, Jason. I think I'm going to go track or supply, though, because again, Amazon. A little bit of a household name at this point.
杰森·莫瑟,你的关注点是什么?你正在关注亚马逊,股票代号为AMZN。他们即将公布财报,将於本周四公布。股市开始表现强劲,上涨了大约25%。最近对于安迪·贾西是否真的有能力胜任的讨论越来越多。我们是否应该预计杰夫·贝佐斯会重新挺身而出?我认为这是高度不可能的,而且贾西正在清理贝佐斯任内发生的一些麻烦。但我认为在这次呼叫中我们将看到成本控制成为一个重要的话题。可以从这个角度看,他们在过去的25年中将履行中心的面积翻了一倍,并且必须加速建立“最后一英里”运输网络,而这个网络现在的规模与UPS相当。如果你看履行成本,2017年履行成本只占总运营成本的14.5%,而2022年这个数字已经达到了16.8%。所以我认为成本控制将成为这次呼叫的重要主题。丹,关於亚马逊有什么问题吗?不是问题,克里斯,而是一些评论。杰森·莫瑟正在Motley Full Money中以亚马逊的一个不太出名的公司进行创新。我喜欢丹的评论,有时问题可能会让人措手不及,而评论总是娱乐性十足。这就是我们爱你的原因,丹。那你还想加入你的关注清单吗,丹?嗯,杰森,我也爱你。不过我想我要追踪供应链,因为嘛,亚马逊已经成为一个家喻户晓的品牌了。
All right. And cross Jason Moser, guys. Thanks for being here. Thanks, Chris. That's going to do it for this week's Motley Full Money Radio Show. The show is Mixed by Dan Boyd. I'm Chris Held. Thanks for listening. Until next time.
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