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We passed 8 billion user minutes per day, which is a lot of user minutes. It's a usage as well. The site works. We're doing it with a small fraction of the original. You mentioned how such a stuff that have been several. We've actually spoken to an engineer who works at Twitter. They said the plumbing is broken here and it's on fire and there could be problems at any minute. So you don't keep it up at night. Twitter might go offline again.
We're also doing it with two data centers instead of three. We shut down one of them. Actually, two thirds of the property, two thirds of the property, a compute capability. So it improves the core of the database. We improved the core of it by 80%. The actual CPU usage or computer usage is dramatically less.
There's also people themselves. The system despite being at all times a usage is fast. It's a more responsive than it was before the takeover. And we've also added a long form tweets. We've added two hours and two videos of any length. We're rolling out our subscriber programs so people can. Content creators can actually go living on Twitter by having some of their content find paywall. And we open source the algorithms so there's transparency about what tweets get shown. What kind of a get shown versus what? I think you say like, what are you really going to trust? Are you going to trust some sort of black box algorithm from some other site? Or are you going to trust the thing that you can actually see and understand?
Do you accept that there are lots of engineers that are looking at the way that Twitter has built? And the lack of engineers because so many have left and are worried about the health of Twitter. Well, many of these people have predicted that Twitter will cease to function. The predictions have not turned out to be true. So it's a mocked way to say, you know, rose, not death, everything that you're in.
Let's go back six months and eat. I mean, literally on Twitter right now. Right. Let's go back six months and even further back than that. When you put that initial bid in, you then have a wobble. You kind of said, I actually don't want to buy Twitter anymore. I mean, it really is quite entertaining. It's like soap on right. Because when I first made the entrepreneur, the response was the board of Dr. Poisonville. So they were like, hell no, you can't buy Twitter. We'd rather die. We're like two on sign eye before being bought.
That was their initial response. And then you said, and then you said, actually, I don't want to buy it. And then they said, no, you must buy it, go into the head. You have to buy it. I'm like, are you the same people who said you'd rather die than be bored? Doesn't that seem odd? So I guess my question to you is, in terms of, you said that the reason was because of boss. Because Twitter was filled with boss. Well, not looking back at it now. Was there a little bit of you that thought, actually, maybe I've overpaid, actually, maybe I don't want to do this. I want to get out of this, be honest.
The other thing, the problem was that the publicly stated user numbers work in excess of the real user numbers. So I've heard you talk about that. Yeah, you can talk about that. But basically, looking back at it now, was that the only reason that you wanted to pull out? Yes. That was literally the issue. It's like, let's say you buy a warehouse full of goods. And you were told that less than 5% of the goods in the warehouse are broken. But then you actually get the warehouse, you look into the warehouse and it's actually 25% of the things broken. You're like, huh, that's so what you said. So then you changed them on again and decided to buy it. Did you do that? Did you do that because you thought the accord would make you do that? Yes. Right.
Yes, that was the reason. Right. So you were still trying to get out of it and then you just revised by lawyer's look. Are you going to hold it by this? Yes. Interesting. So you didn't actually want to apologize to say even when you said you were going to. Well, not again. You were going to. You were really. No, I mean, like, like, let's say, I think the analogy is pretty close. I would say, you know, it's like, there's a warehouse full of goods. They say the warehouse less than 5% of what's in the warehouse. So it's broken. Then you were. The warehouse is actually 25%. So you know, you guys still want to buy what's in that warehouse, but. Probably at a low price. You're not buying the stuff that's broken.
So I'm going to. I'm going to have to buy this. I might sell by the bullet. Yeah. So then you bought. Super complicated. Right. Right. I'm not sure you said that before. I've heard of. So then you. You came into two. You're. You. You. You said the same. The BBC. You. So you then came into Twitter with with a sync.
What were your first impressions? Well. Well. I thought well, this is a really nice office building. And expensive. Yes. Very close to office. Great decor. It's lovely place. And. And I definitely was there's spending money like it's going to passion. Which is it isn't quite going that fast. Yeah. So.
I mean, I. The driving situation cuts. Well, of. At the point which the company. The transaction closed. Twitter was tracking to. Lose. Over $3 billion a year. So. And had one billion in a bank. So that's four months to death. So this is your starting position. How would you feel? Pretty. Pretty. You know, it was a boring lot of money and pay interest on that team. Well, that's why. How do I always the three billion other. Run rate.
So. If you interrupt numbers normal year and Twitter would do. Say, let's say, four half billion in revenue. Four half billion dollars in cost. I mean, it was really kind of like an nonprofit. They'd run it at roughly roughly very even. But that's not bankruptcy. You know, saving. No, it's breaking even. But then, then the issue is that. If you've been at a billion and a half dollars in debt servicing. And have a massive drop in revenue. We did. Which is partly cyclic and partly, you know, political concerns. Whatever. So revenue, you know, you know, dropped by. Over a third. It's not just Twitter, you know, Facebook and Google falsies. It's a signal. It's a little higher Twitter, but. Mostly our tens of coming back. So what I think will just go back and be back where there's a cyclic demand.
Drop. Still pretty significant. But in. The rough numbers. Revenue dropped from four and a half billion to three. And expenses were for four and a half to six. Creating a three billion dollar negative cash flow situation. And Twitter having a billion dollars in the bank. That's four months to live. So unless drastic actual saving immediately is going to die. To be honest, let's talk about that drastic action. Because almost immediately.
You sacked a lot of Twitter workers. Yeah, and I spoke to them. It's very easy to speak to them. And so it's very easy to say that. When it happened and the way they said. Pretty much everyone said is that it felt quite a half hazard. It was. It felt a little bit uncaring. Do you want to say uncaring? The issue is like. The company is going to go bankrupt. Or if we do not cut costs immediately. Does this not a carry uncaring situation? It's like a whole ship saying, so nobody's going to drop. Right. So a lot of people just lost their jobs like that. And they went. They didn't even know they were good. They lost their jobs often. They just. They were just frozen out of their accounts.
What would you do? Well, you might want to give someone some notice. I mean, you might. It's by the way, I'm not running Twitter, but. I know, but this is the crazism. And this is what actually this is what. I just want to say a little bit of notice. You know, I understand. You're four months to live. 120 days. And 120 days you're dead. So how much. So what do you want to do? How much you worth? I don't know. But we're talking about around the 200 billion dollar mark. I mean, it's not quite. You're framing it in in a way that, you know, that it had a, had a few months to live. Quite a rich man. I saw a lot of Tesla star too close to deal. I did not want to sell the Tesla star.
Okay. Do you have any regrets on the way that some of the stuff with that guy? I mean, who were given, you know, three months of several in some cases more? So. But you know, we're like set the company to run on their own cognizance. And it's not, it's not so easy for me to sell stock as we might think. I have to sell stock during certain periods. I can't sell stock during other periods. So there's only, there are only brief windows where I can sell Tesla stock.
And then this is often taken as some lack of faith in Tesla. And in fact, the Tesla stock sales, of course, the Tesla stock to pilot, which is not good. Do you think that is too reconnected? Well, the token can, can parts of the difference between I'm selling Tesla stock because I have a must-beat in Tesla, which I haven't, or that it's desperately near for 20. And.
Okay, and then after that, after you let go of a lot of stuff, obviously, it was for Twitter to come and slim down a lot. And then you started making some more policy decisions. One of those policy decisions was to bring Donald Trump back. He hasn't actually tweeted yet. Right.
But the point is that Twitter should be a townspear of that, of course, that is a, gives a equal voice to, you know, the whole country and ideally the whole world. It should not be a partisan politics, you know, and the world of partisan politics that are very far left with respect to the representatives of the working politics.
It normally is quite niche. But it's Twitter effectively acted as a megaphone for a very niche regional politics and had a megaphone that to the world.
So if in order for something to serve as digital town square, it must, you know, put in a meeting. So all people from all political persuasions provided its legal. So, you know, they're close to half the country, further forward Trump. I wasn't one of them. I both provided.
But nonetheless, their pre-speech is meaningless. Unless you're allowed people, you don't like to see things you don't like. Otherwise, it's relevant. And if, at the point of which, you lose a pre-speech, it doesn't come back.
I think the issue some people have is that a lot of people were brought back. I mean, some people were brought back. You were previously banned for spreading things like cumin on the conspiracies. You have to be like, I'm just saying, you were brought back. You were previously banned for things like hate speech.
Do you think you prioritized freedom of speech over misinformation and hate speech? Well, you know, who's to say that something is misinformation? Who's the arbiter of that? Is it the BBC? Yeah, you literally asking me. Yeah. Well, no, you're the arbiter on Twitter. Because you own Twitter. Yeah, so I'm saying it, who is to say that one person's misinformation is another person's information.
The point of which you're using is that there is, this is what's. Who is going to say that? You accept that information can be dangerous, that it can cause real world harms, that it can potentially cause them. Yeah, so the point of trying to make is that BBC itself has at times published things that are false. Do you agree that has occurred? I'm quite sure the BBC have said things before that turn out to not be true. Right. In its, whatever it is, hundreds of history and questions. Even if you aspire to be accurate, it'll times where you will not be.
But you accept. But you accept that there has to be a line in terms of hate speech. I mean, you're not looking at total 100% unrestricted speech. Well, I'm generally a multi-teen in that. If the people of a given country are against a certain type of speech, they should talk to their elected representatives and pass a law to prevent it. So for example, you cannot advocate murdering someone. That's illegal. In the United States. But everywhere in the United States is perfect. So there are limits to speech.
I guess taking your argument to a logical conclusion then, do you accept that there's more misinformation on the platform if it's not being policed in the same way? I actually think there's less these days because we've eliminated so many of the bots, which were pushing scams and spam.
And previously, previous management turned a blind eye to the bot because their bonuses were tied to user growth. If your conversation is tied to user growth, well, you're not going to look too closely at some of the users. That's part of the problem. So I think we've got less information because we don't have the one problem that we used to do. And we also have given a lot of attention to community notes, which corrects, which community itself corrects misinformation. It's been very effective.
I mean, I would only just add that we have spoken to people who have been sacked, that used to be in content moderation. We've spoken to people very recently who were involved in moderation. And they just say there's not enough people to police this stuff, particularly around hate speech in the company. Is that what people should be talking about? I mean, you used Twitter. Right. Do you see a rise in hate speech?
But just a personal anecdote, like what do you do? I don't. Personally, my four-year, I would see I get more of that kind of content, personally. But I'm not going to talk to the rest of Twitter. You use people on hate speech personally. I would say I would see more hateful content in that.
Paragraph 1: Content you don't like or what do you mean to describe a hateful thing? That will solicit a reaction to something that may include something that is slightly racist or slightly sexist, those kinds of things. So you think if something is slightly sexist, it should be banned.
Paragraph 2: No, I'm not saying anything. I'm saying. I'm curious. I'm trying to say what you mean by hateful content. I'm asking for specific examples. And you just said that if something is slightly sexist, that's hateful content. And is that me in that it should be banned?
Paragraph 3: You've asked me whether my feed, whether it's got less or more, I'd say it's got slightly more. That's why I'm asking for examples. Can you name one example? I honestly don't need it.
Paragraph 4: Honestly, I don't need a single example. I'll tell you why, because I don't actually use that for you feed anymore, because I just don't particularly like it. A lot of people are quite similar. I only look at my followers.
Paragraph 5: You said you've seen more hateful content, but you can't name it a single example. Not even one. I'm not sure I've used that feed for the last three or four weeks. I've been using it. I've been using Twitter since you've taken it over for the last six months.
Paragraph 6: Okay, so then you must have at some point seen that you've for you hateful content. I'm asking you for one example. Right. You can't give a single one. And I'm saying. Then I say so that you don't know what you're talking about.
Paragraph 7: Really? Yes, because you can't be a single example of hateful content, not even one tweet. And yet you claimed the hateful content was high. Well, that's a false.
Paragraph 8: No, what I claim was that there are many organizations that say that that kind of information is on the rise. Now, whether it has on my feed or not, I mean, right. Let's say, someone like the strategic dialogue in the UK, they will say that. So, people will say all sorts of nonsense. I'm literally asking for a single example. You can name one.
Paragraph 9: Right. I don't use that feed, but let's have nothing of it. I don't think this is getting anywhere. You literally said you would experience more hateful content. And then couldn't name a single example. Right. And as I said, I have absurd. I haven't actually looked at that feed up. Then how would you know if it's a real question? Because I'm saying that's what I saw a few weeks ago. I can't give you an exact example. Let's move on. We have we only have a certain amount of time.
Paragraph 10: Well, COVID misinformation. You changed the COVID misinformation. Has BBC changes COVID misinformation? The BBC does not set the rules on Twitter. So I'm asking you. No, I'm talking about the BBC's misinformation about COVID. I'm just asking you about you change the labels. The COVID misinformation labels.
Paragraph 11: They used to be a policy. And then it then disappears. Why do that? It's a COVID. It's no longer an issue. Does the BBC hold itself at all responsible for misinformation, regarding masking and side effects of vaccinations? And not reporting on that at all? And what about the fact that the BBC was put under pressure by the British government to change the editorial policy? Are you aware of that?
Paragraph 12: This is not an interview about the BBC. I see now why you've done Twitter spaces. I'm not a representative of the BBC's editorial policy. I want to make that clear. Let's talk about something else. Let's talk about something else.
Paragraph 13: Norendra Modi. The BBC did a documentary about Norendra Modi and his leadership during the rights in Goodger Rap. We then believe that some of that content was taken off Twitter. Was that at the behest of the Indian government?
Paragraph 14: I'm not aware of that particular situation. So you're not sure. I don't know. I don't know about that. You know, what exactly happened with some content situation in India. The rules in India forward, pure and socially are quite strict. And we can't go beyond the laws of the country.
Paragraph 15: But do you get that, if you do that, you've incentivized countries around the world to simply pass more draconian laws? No. Look, if we have a choice of either our people go to prison or we comply with the laws, we will comply with the laws. Same goes for the BBC.
Paragraph 16: Okay. Since you became CEO, there's been another story in town. I'm not CEO anymore. Okay. Do you achieve Twitter? No, my dog is floating. Okay. You've taken over. I saw that. Okay.
Paragraph 17: So TikTok has also been in the news. There's talk about the administration wanting to potentially ban it or force a sale. What's your view of the situation?
Paragraph 1: I don't really use TikTok. I mean, one of the reasons I emphasize that the that our goal here at Twitter is to maximize unregulated user minutes.
我并不是很常用TikTok。我的意思是,我们在Twitter的目标是最大化未受监管的用户使用时间。
Paragraph 2: What unregulated user time is that I hear many people tell me they spent a lot of time on TikTok. But they regret the time spent. And that seems like, okay, well, we don't want to have regret at time. We want the time to be unregulated where you learn things. You were entertained and used.
Paragraph 3: I think that I, you know, I get to more laps out of Twitter than anything else. And many people tell me the same thing. So that's a good sign.
Paragraph 4: Please talk itself. I just don't know enough about what's going on there. I can't say I have a strong video on TikTok.
请自行谈话。我对那里正在发生的事情了解得不够多。我不能说我对TikTok上的视频有强烈的看法。
Paragraph 5: So you don't have any opinion on whether it should be banned or not. You know, I'm generally against banning things. So I probably not to be in favor. I mean, it would help Twitter, I suppose, if TikTok was banned, because then people would spend more time on Twitter, unless I'm a TikTok. But even though that would be, even if it would help Twitter, I would be generally against banning of things.
Paragraph 6: Okay. Do you feel sometimes that your many business interests might get in the way of you having opinion? I mean, for example, Tesla has major connections in China. You wouldn't have a certain opinion on something or feel uncomfortable about saying something. Because of your other business interests, that's what. I look uncomfortable.
Paragraph 7: Yeah, I mean, Tesla has got activities around the world, sort of SpaceX. You know, once in a while those things do come into conflict. But it's not like Twitter is like, you know, operates in China, doesn't it, which is banned in China. And certainly I've received no communication whatsoever from the Chinese government.
Paragraph 8: Okay. In terms of advertising, obviously, the Twitter is not a private company anymore. So we don't really know how it's all going. How all the advertisers come back. Not all but most. It's here for yourself, even in the 40 feet.
Paragraph 11: No, Twitter is roughly, we're roughly breaking even at this point. And I think you've said before you see a, you see a world where you can be in profit. Is there a time I don't know? I mean, depending on how things go, current trends continue. I think we could be profitable or I mean, probably see, it's been more precise. We could be cashflow positive. This quarter of things keep going well.
Paragraph 12: This quarter as soon as that possibly. Well, and do you have a message for the appetite?
本季度尽可能快地完成。嗯,你有什么关于需求的留言吗?
Paragraph 13: I mean, can you say which advertisers haven't come back? I think almost all of them. I feel they come back or say they're going to come back. There are very few companies. Can you say any of the exceptions? I actually don't know if anyone who said definitively they're not coming back. They're all sort of turning towards coming back. But there are some that just have to jump in. That's your message to the advertisers that haven't come back. Yeah, I mean, look, you know, if there are many fields of advertising, there are children's movies, and Apple fields of advertising iPhones, those are good indicators that Twitter is a good place to advertise.
Paragraph 14: I want to talk about, if you have any regrets, and you know, I think you were booed at a Dave Shiphel concert. I think you got to annoy us a little. A little. Well, some say a little, some say a bit more. I think you can always say you can get a fair trial in San Francisco because there are lots of people that don't necessarily like you here.
Paragraph 15: Yeah, but you know, I have to say, I was wrong. He was wrong, I guess, because I was acquitted by the San Francisco jury unanimously. So, but I guess, but look in there and I know.
Paragraph 16: Do you have any regrets by Twitter? I think it was something that's needed to be done. You said you didn't like that. You said you didn't like that.
Paragraph 17: It's difficult, you know, I'd say the like the pain level of Twitter has been extremely high. It hasn't been so sort of party. So, it's been really quite a stressful situation in the last several months, not an easy one. I'm better apart from the pain. So it's been quite painful, but I think, I think it should have been done. I think that I, were there, my name is Stakes made a long way, of course. And, but, you know, also, I'll let ends well. And so, I feel like we're headed to a good place. You know, we're roughly breaking, and I think we're trying to towards a Catholic positive very soon, literally no matter of about the months.
Paragraph 1: The advertises are returning. The, I think, the quality of recommended tweets has improved significantly. It would take a lot of feedback from people that have looked at the open source of recommendation algorithm. We've made a lot of improvements even to get, except if it's since that was made up of a source, and we're going to keep doing that. So, overall, I think the plan is very good, so, you know.
Paragraph 2: I mean, it was actually something I was going to ask you, you mentioned the pain, but you actually tweeted, I think in February, you said the last three months have been extremely tough. I wouldn't wish that pain on anyone. Are you talking emotionally? I mean, can you explain? I wasn't stabbed, right? Right, right. But, some people were on the air, it's dangerous to take the woods away. It is. It will come, but, just, can you just talk me through the emotional strain at this?
Paragraph 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I've been on a constant task. I mean, it's not like I, you know, have a stone called hard or something like that. You know, if you're under constant criticism and attack, it's, and then that gets fed to nonstop, including through Twitter, that, it's rough, you know. Not in the day, I kind of think that, like, if you do lose your feedback loop, that's actually not good. So, you know, so I think it's, it isn't actually important to get that good feedback.
Paragraph 4: I don't tend to reply as well. And I actually got rid of, I removed my entire block list. So I'm not blocking anyone either. So, I get like a lot of negative feedback. What's the good thing to get negative feedback? Right. Is it, when you talk about the emotional strain, you've gone back to feedback, is it is that the thing that's been most difficult to take, the sort of negative feedback?
Paragraph 5: Yeah, I mean, if the media's trying nonstop stories about why you're a horrible person, I mean, you know, it's hurtful, obviously. I've written down a lot of these questions, but I haven't written this one down. But it feels like you have quite an interesting relationship with the media. Because in some ways, you're quite skeptical, quite critical, certainly, of established media. But also, you kind of get hurt by what the media writes. And you see, do you get your news still from the BBC as it already says? I look at the whole of the views.
Paragraph 6: Right, right. So do you feel you have a kind of odd relationship with the media? Yes. Go on, explain. No, it is somewhat of a lot of hate relationship, although I mean, it might be totally different from what it was the hate. But, you know, it's a. You know, I think this is a sort of part and possible of having a free media situation, which is that, you know, I do take part in that the media is actually able to trash me on a regular basis in the United States and the UK and whatnot. Whereas, you know, in a lot of other places, media cannot say me in things to powerful people.
Paragraph 7: OK. So I think it's better that we have a situation where the media can say me in things to powerful people. If we talk about the media, let's talk about verification labels. You obviously want to create another revenue stream that's subscription-based. It's verification the way to do that. Because we have a kind of a situation at the moment where the New York Times doesn't have a verified badge. Whereas, anyone who's you can pay whatever few bucks a month can. Can that be. Right, is that what you envisaged when you bought Twitter?
Paragraph 8: I must confess, it's underlined in removing the verified badge when you're okay. That was great. Anyway, there's still a lot of work. So, they're refined. But, honestly, we know it could flame disinformation again if you have verified accounts that are from anyone who can pay money. They simply go up to potentially the top of feeds. They get more action on Twitter and traditional media that may not pay for verification.
Paragraph 9: Do you see how that could potentially be a driver of misinformation? Well, I mean, I think the media is a driver of misinformation. I thought the media would like to admit that they are. That's a different question. Yeah. But you're obviously sort of saying, like, who knows best, the average citizen or someone who is a journalist. And I think, in my case, is the average citizen that knows more than the journalist.
Paragraph 10: In fact, I mean, very often, when I see an article about something that I know a lot about, and I read the articles, like, if they get a lot wrong, I think that's a lot of the same. And, you know, sort of the best interpretation is there. If someone who doesn't really understand what's going on in the industry has only a few facts to play with, has to come up with an article, it's going to be, you know, something that you're talking about at the bull's eye.
Paragraph 1: So, generally, this is what how it makes it this terrible. If you read an article, that's something you know about. How much of that, how accurate is that article? Now, imagine that that is how, essentially, all articles are. There are an approximation of what's going on, but not an exact situation.
Paragraph 2: So, if somebody is actually, let's say, in the pre, or like an expert in the field, and was actually there, and then writes about their experience of being actually there, I think that actually, that that could, in a lot of cases, get better than the journalist because the journalist wasn't there.
Paragraph 3: I think you said the legacy verifiable text is going to go next week. There have been a few deadlines on that. Yeah, I see the joke. That's a devil you're going to have then. No, I'm going to leave it. I'm clearly going to need to cost you a lot of money. Well, fortunately, it didn't in the trial. Well, yeah, right, as you say, right? Yes, we're going to ask for refund. Yeah, okay. Yeah, good luck. Let's move on from that.
Paragraph 4: But blue text, in theory, all legacy blue text gone next week, and at that point, you'll kind of work out whether this is going to single swim. Yes. What's your, what's your hatch? I mean, you won't be seeing it. I think it goes from. Yeah, yeah. It was just fine.
Paragraph 5: Okay. What are you looking for in terms of revenue stream on that? What are your goals? Well, I think it's like, let's really try and revenue stream. You know, it can have sort of a million people that are described for less than $100 a year in the ish. That's $100 million. And that's a fairly small revenue stream relative to advertising.
Paragraph 6: What we're really trying to do here with verification is to masterly raise the cost of disinformation and bots in general. So my prediction is that in any social media company that does not insist on paid verification will simply be overwhelmed by events, AI bots. I mean, chat GBT is essentially a zillion instances of chat GBT. How would you do that? Is that really what you want on the platform? Do you want big news organizations being overwhelmed by bots so they have to be?
Paragraph 7: No, the point is that you won't be. If you pay, but a lot of organizations have already said they're not going to pay like the new times. Well then, you know, that's up to them. They, you know, can make them pay. It's just more or not of money. So I don't know what their problem is.
Paragraph 8: So, but we're going to feed everyone equally. So what we're not going to do is say that there's some anointed class of journalists who are the special ones who get to tell everyone what they're, which is what they should think that it should be up to the people, what they think. And even if an article is completely accurate and comprehensive and everything, is there still in writing that article, the media is choosing the narrative.
Paragraph 9: They're deciding what to write an article about. So I'm hopeful that this can be more a case of the public choosing the narrative, as opposed to the media choosing narrative. But the media can choose narrative. At least a combination of the media and the public choosing narrative. And the public getting to weigh in on stories and they think that they should add something to it or that something wrong. And over time, I think if Twitter is the best source of truth, it will succeed. And if we are not the best source of truth, we will fail.
Paragraph 10: Someone comes in and offers you $44 billion for Twitter right now. Would you take it? No. Would you consider it? No. Why? Well, I'm taking it back. It depends on who. I suppose if I was confident that they would pursue, that would, they would rigorously pursue the truth. Then I guess I would be glad to hand it off to someone else. I don't care about the money really, but I do want to have some source of truth that I can count on. And I hope that's our aspiration with Twitter is to have a source of truth that you can count on. That's also real time. It's an immediate source of truth that you can count on and that gets more accurate with time as people comment on it.
Paragraph 11: Well, if you don't care about the money, you could just give it to someone that you think is a good person to run Twitter. Who do you think that might be? I'm not. A boss of Twitter. No, but a choose. Well, you might as well have an idea. Who could run Twitter? Yeah. Honestly, I have no idea who could run Twitter. Yeah, it's a hard job. Okay, let's move on to that.
Paragraph 3: Okay, have you got any. It's a great dog. Other than the dog. Very alert and it's hard to get anything by him. Okay, that's good to know.
你有狗吗?它是一只非常棒的狗,除了狗之外,很机警,很难瞒过他。好的,这样知道很好。
Paragraph 4: Other than the dog, have you got any successes? You've got a black, a total neck or what more do you need?
除了这只狗之外,你还有其他成功吗?你有黑色的、完全的颈部,或者你还需要什么?
Paragraph 5: Okay. Alright. We're going down that route. Steve Jobs is a Elizabeth home. Are you making your reference, Steve? I guess more Elizabeth home.
Paragraph 6: I forgot the question now. It's going to host your voice. And, like I. Um, false off. What were we talking about there? Uh, yeah, who, who, who, who was you want? Have you got a successor in mind?
Paragraph 7: Oh, not yet. Hopefully it's on point. Right. So, because you did say you were going to stand out. I did say that. Okay.
哦,还没有。希望能达到预期效果。对了,因为你说过你要脱颖而出。我确实说过。好的。
Paragraph 8: All right, let's move on from that, then. All right. What about this office? I'm intrigued about this office. You said it was expensive. I don't really use it.
Paragraph 9: Yeah. Yeah. Why can't we be in an office in the list of the commune? I think Jack, you will see kind of recommend that. I'm just doing that. You're kind of ignorant.
Paragraph 10: Yeah. What's kind of that actually? Um, this office. Are you thinking about moving out of San Francisco?
是的。其实这是怎么回事?嗯,这个办公室。你在考虑搬离旧金山吗?
Paragraph 11: Uh, not yet. Not yet. But yeah. No, I mean, this place is nice. And, uh, we, we, you know, I like this office. I was pulling actually. Yeah.
还没有。还没有。不过,嗯,这个地方很不错。我们呢,我喜欢这个办公室。其实我是在拉着气氛。
Paragraph 12: Okay. So you're not, because I know you've talked about. There's been high levels of crime here. You actually said it one more way. We should do something about the crime. Right. People are dying. Right. We should take action. You also talks about how potentially I think you would might have been joking, but you could turn us into a home in a shelter.
Paragraph 13: So then, I guess the reason I'm asking is, you know, you, you want my shelter? If we're trying to turn it to the home of shop in the building, the building management room is running on a rejected it.
Paragraph 14: You try to, yeah, they won't let us. Which bits, which bits, if you try to turn it into a home of shelter? We're only using one of the buildings. And so the other building can be a homeless shelter. And you try to, yeah, we would like to do it right now. Really?
Paragraph 15: Yeah. And. No, you'll be stopped by here by the building owner. They won't let you.
是的,但是不行。建筑物业主会阻止你通过这里。他们不会让你进去。
Paragraph 16: No. In fact, they wouldn't even let us take the towel you want to sign. So how are you going to do that? Quite, quite, uh, you know, what was your plan for the shelter?
Paragraph 17: I don't know. We could show people say that. Nice. Right. Okay. I didn't know that. I can bring this stuff, bring it back, whatever. Right. And it's a roof over the head. Yeah. It's the building owner. That's what's wrong with it. Yeah. So if the building owner lets you, you would, you would happily do that. Yes. Okay. All right. There we go.
Paragraph 18: Um, what's the most difficult thing you've had to do? What's the hardest thing you've had to do? In my whole life. In the last six months. Which of the last six months has you, it's Switzerland?
Paragraph 19: Switzerland. Well, shutting down our one about service center. This was was quite difficult. It turns out there were. I thought the service centers were redundant, but they were, in fact, a lot of things that were hard coded to this one service center.
Paragraph 20: And so we shut it down and we actually. It was quite catastrophic. We lost a lot of functionality. So we're really rushed to put it back. When was that? I was around late December, January. So that was the biggest sort of, um, I'm worried. Biggest crisis, yeah.
Paragraph 21: Yeah. And what about hard and defensive emotion? I mean, how do you mean, let go? What were the current, the levels of staff on what are they now? Um, I think we're. Um, around 1500 people at this point.
Paragraph 22: And there was, I think, 78. What's it? What's it? So I think it was around just under 8,000. 1500 right now. Okay. And it has it been hard letting that many people go.
Paragraph 23: Yeah. But on and off people. I mean, I guess in what way do you do? Do you feel like you need to speak to people when they, when they need or I mean, it's not physically possible to speak to that many people? Is it his that?
Paragraph 24: I mean, you talked about that. Been at most technical there. Is that has, has that been sort of the hardest thing emotionally? Or is it is one of the hardest things, certainly? Yeah.
Paragraph 25: Um, the Nazi Pelosi tweet. I don't know about that. I'm not sure the staff. But there have been, I've been an example of a few, there have been others.
Paragraph 26: Um, do you feel like you're an impulsive person? I mean, have I struck myself on the quote with tweets multiple times? Yeah.
你觉得自己是一个冲动的人吗?我的意思是,你是否多次用推特表示自己的感受时做出了冲动行为?是的。
Paragraph 27: Do you feel like I need a real proof shoes at this point? You've definitely done that. The issue is that you're now Twitter owner.
你觉得我现在需要真正的证明吗?你确实做到了。问题是,你现在成为了Twitter的所有者。
Paragraph 28: Do you feel like you should be. Look at your tweets more. You have more higher responsibility when you tweet something out. It's be accurate. I think I should not tweet after three. That's the rule. Thank you. Or maybe to a, that's the new rule. Yeah.
Paragraph 2: So there's a blanket that I should. I shouldn't. I shouldn't.
第二段:所以我有一条毯子。我不应该要它。我不应该要它。
Paragraph 3: Uh, what are your Twitter while you're Twitter rules? I mean, I've heard some people say, never tweet when you've been drinking. We'll never tweet when angry. What are your Twitter rules?
Paragraph 4: Well, I think those are two grid rules. Yeah. Don't tweet if you're wasted. Um, and, uh, or, you know, really upset about something.
嗯,我认为这是两条简单明了的规矩。是的,如果你喝醉了或者因为某件事情非常生气,不要发推特。
Paragraph 5: Um, yeah. I probably, uh, I mean, a good fire mine. Um, actually, a good suggestion. It has helped, uh, which is that, uh, if you're going to tweet something that maybe is controversial, uh, save it as a draft and look at it the next day and see if it's still on it. And that has been a good rule of thumb.
Paragraph 6: Okay. So we've got a bunch of things away. I told her that I'm glad I didn't say. Um, I can't remember that I'll see this. This is my sort of sort of wrapping up at this point.
Paragraph 7: But yeah, do you have any regrets? Uh, I mean, I did that. What was like hindsight's 2020, so that, you know, a bunch of decisions that can be made better for sure. Um, but, um, it was said all as well as as well. I think it's going pretty well. So, uh, the grand scheme of things, uh, I think.
Paragraph 8: Okay. Um, I'm going to just check my, my list of things to make sure
我要检查一下我列表上的事项, 确保没有遗漏。
Paragraph 9: I mean, maybe this is something that people on the Twitter want to say. Ask, you know, we could ask them. That's on you.
我是说,也许这是Twitter上的人想要说的话。我们可以问一下,你知道的,这取决于你。
Paragraph 10: That's on you. Wow. It's 680,000 people listening. There you go. That's a lot. That is a lot.
这就是取决于你了。哇,有680,000人在听呢。这真的是很多人啊,真的很多。
Paragraph 11: Uh, let's see. How do we see you? Okay. Let me see who I'll, I'll just look at my, my tweet and see what people are saying or what questions they have.
嗯,让我想想。我们如何联系你呢?好的,让我看看我发布的推特,了解人们说了什么或者有什么问题。
Paragraph 12: Um, um, do you like the BBC? Do you like BBC? Okay. Yeah. We're not going to. I can't. I always have work for the BBC. Do you like, do you like BBC? I know. I know. I'm not going to respond to that.
Paragraph 13: Okay. I think we can finish in. If you want to, if you want to continue, thank you very much.
好的,我觉得我们可以结束了。如果你想继续讨论,非常感谢。
Paragraph 14: Well, come on. You see something. What is true? You like BBC. Come on. I'm not engaging.
好了,来吧。你看到了什么?什么是真的?你喜欢BBC。来吧。我不打算进入争论。
Paragraph 15: Right. You know, honestly, it has been a pleasure. Okay. We'll see. Yeah. So if you want to, if you want to carry on answering questions on, on, on, on this, then.
Paragraph 17: Well, I'm just trying to, I think, see if there's like any, you know, good, there's a lot of comments here. Um, I can imagine. Um, there's so many.
第17段:我只是想看看这里是否有任何好的评论,因为有很多评论。我可以想象这里有很多评论。
Paragraph 18: Anyway, so it's, it's nice to be interviewed by the BBC. I have a lot of respect for the British board casting corporation.
总之,很高兴接受BBC的采访。我非常尊重英国广播公司。
Paragraph 19: Um, when did you say when the, when the actual label is going to go public?
你说那个真正的标签什么时候要公开?
Paragraph 20: Oh, is it, um, is it, um, is it, do we still say state media or whatever? It's just government funded media currently. Um, as opposed to publicly funded media.
哦,是吗,那我们还是用国家媒体这个词,还是什么?现在只是政府资助的媒体,和公共资助的媒体相对。
Paragraph 21: Oh, I guess probably we can make that change tomorrow, if you'd like. It's up to you. It's up to you.
哦,我猜明天我们可以做这个改变,如果你愿意的话。取决于你。取决于你。
Paragraph 22: I mean, do you, do you have any requests on a personal level or you can't speak on a personal level?
我的意思是,你个人有什么要求吗?或者你无法在个人层面上发表意见?
Paragraph 23: No, I don't.
不,我不这样认为。
Paragraph 24: Okay. Okay. I think we just established that. Um, go on.
好的,好的。我想我们刚刚已经确定了这一点。继续说吧。
Paragraph 25: What, what, what, what questions are people asking you going?
人们正在问你什么问题?
Paragraph 26: Um, I mean, there's like a lot of comments. Let's see. I was literally reading on a, looking at replies to the, you know, the fact that I just dispatched. Um,
嗯,我的意思是,有很多评论。让我来看看。我确实在阅读回复,关于我刚发表的那篇文章。
Paragraph 27: Are there any good questions that I've missed out in the last, in the last six months? I'm sure there are many.
第27段:在过去的六个月中,我错过了一些好问题吗?我相信有很多。
Paragraph 28: Um, I mean, people generally seem to like this interview for a hotel. Um, very few negative comments who generally positive.
嗯,我指的是,人们通常似乎喜欢这家酒店的面试。嗯,很少有负面评论,通常都是正面的。
Paragraph 29: Is that, is that, that's probably bad for me. I'm really, I'm scrolling as fast as I can to sort of see.
这可能对我很不好。我正在尽可能地快速滚动,以便看到更多。
Paragraph 30: Uh, I guess the, the sun contains about Twitter spaces. Being, needing some improvement. Let's fix Twitter spaces is one of the comments.
我想说的是,太阳的大小约有推特空间那么大。而推特空间需要一些改善。有条留言说让我们修复推特空间。
Paragraph 31: Um, people like the fact that my dog, Loki is a CEO. Um, and, I really just wanted to see.
人们喜欢我的狗洛基是CEO的事实。我只是想看看。
Paragraph 32: Um, and, uh, I'm really just scrolling as fast as I can here. I, I, I think my, I guess my reflection on this, on this interview.
嗯,啊,我正在尽可能快地滚动屏幕。我想,我猜这次采访让我有所反思。
Paragraph 33: I just say, I like BBC. I do find it funny. Um, I, I, I think I mean, honestly, looking listening to the interview, the answer about misinformation and saying, we don't, we don't, police misinformation in the same way, but, we're, cause we try and get books, because we try and take down bots, we're, we're actually, there's actually less misinformation on the platform.
Paragraph 34: Okay. I think that's a big factor. I'd like to ask you one more question on that, because I don't think that is quite, a lot of people will think we'll be listening to this, and you're really, you're, you're arguing you can police content moderation, far less, and end up with less misinformation.
Paragraph 35: How, how, we do have, we do have, uh, you know, people, I kind of had moderation, so it's not like we don't.
“我们确实有适度的人员管理,所以并不是没有任何控制。”
Paragraph 36: Um, so, I've spoken to lots of people, you've been, you've been fired.
好的,我和很多人交谈过,听说你被解雇了。
Paragraph 37: So lots of people have been let go. I mean, you've gone from eight to fifteen years.
许多人被解雇了。我的意思是,你们从八年到十五年的员工数量发生了变化。
Paragraph 1: Yeah. The sense of, the censorship bureau was let go. Um, I don't think the, the sort of putting a thumb on the political scales on the fall left has been let go, cause that's not right. That's not what you want for a public, a public square. Um, you know, you've got to have equal treatment for people from across the political spectrum.
Paragraph 2: So, um, you know, some of them are going to be upset about that. Um, but like I said, my, my, my experience is that there's less, less, less misinformation these days, not more, and that the community notes feature is extremely powerful for, uh, addressing, uh, so-called misinformation.
Paragraph 3: Um, I mean, you've been, you've had community notes placed on your right to eights.
嗯,我的意思是,你的名字已被记录在社区笔记中,而这些笔记被放置在你的右手边。
Paragraph 4: Yes. Um, one of them involving, I had an alleged diamond mine. Diamond mine? What, a mine that, what is it? A mine that your father part owned. Yeah, my father never owned a, uh, uh, you think you have an emerald, emerald mine. Yeah, I'd like to see a picture of the alleged emerald mine. Because you've been, you've been community notes on that tweet.
Paragraph 5: Yeah. Did you know that? No, but it's, he never owned it, a, a, an emerald mine. It's a total bullshit. Not even a 50% stake. Because in community notes. But, first of all, okay. Okay, do you think, emerald, do you think, do something like an emerald mine would have like, um, you know, uh, some sort of property register.
Paragraph 6: There'd be like a picture of it. I something like you can say, oh, that's my mind. You know, there, these things are hardly debated. If you've got something valuable, um, you, you have to have some property record, like house, but, but much more important than a house.
Paragraph 7: And yet there is no property record, what, so ever. There is no picture of this mine, but it doesn't exist. It's fake. So that's, so it's a really good example, then, because there is a community note on that tweet that says, you said this thing on the X-Day level of last.
Paragraph 8: So in that instance, the community notes didn't work. So you're saying that that's a way of solving this information, but you're literally saying one of those community notes is wrong. It's, and the community, the community note may be referring to a thing where, uh, I went on a trip with my father to Zambia.
Paragraph 9: Um, but I never saw any mine or anything. So there's no, there's no, there's no mine. I'm not like, right, but at this point, I'm just saying the community notes, as it is. So you're saying it's this big, great panacea, but yeah, it's, it's literally on your own tweet, the community notes, uh, according to you, wrong. Uh, if they're referencing, um, an article, then the article may not be wrong, which they still represent the, yeah, but, do you mean, it's going to be perfect, but I, it's the, it's the vending average of community notes, I found to be extremely high.
Paragraph 10: Right. Um, so, um, so community notes plus, getting rid of, millions and millions of bots every day, I guess, that's, that's what we're talking about. Yeah. That, that's what you think, it's tacking misinformation over, over-concent moderation. I think, I think, because I think that's the bit that a lot of people will go, really, really, really, yeah, it's really.
Paragraph 11: So, the asset test is people will use the system and find it, find it to be a good social truth, or they don't. And no, no system is going to be perfect, uh, in, in its, uh, pursuit of the truth.
Paragraph 12: Um, but I think, I think we can be the best. The least, uh, inaccurate. That's our goal. The least, inaccurate. But then, I think we, I, I think we might be there already. If we're not there, we'll be there soon.
Paragraph 13: Do you have, I've spoken to people, he thinks this. Do you have, uh, I kind of messaged for people who, who think that Twitter has been ruined?
Paragraph 14: Well, we have all time high usage, so I don't think it has been. Some people, some people think it has been. I'll, I'll, I'll tell you that. Yes, well, they probably, the same people who predicted that Twitter would, would cease to exist, and their predictions have turned out to be false.
Paragraph 15: Okay. I know. I, I'm not going to ask you whether you think it's been ruined, because obviously, you, you know, no, I think it's quite, uh, better by a lot.
好的,我知道了。我不会问你是否认为它已经被糟糕了,因为显然你已经知道了,我认为它变得更好了很多。
Paragraph 16: I, I've done with this interview. It sounds like you didn't want to take any questions from your agents, it sounds. I mean, I was just looking for, um, questions, uh, you got any questions? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Paragraph 17: Let's get the door to the liner. Okay. So what I do. Cool. That's tough. Okay. He's needed. We're just getting some technical help for anyone. He's listening. Don't you, designers needed. Okay.
Paragraph 18: So should I? How do you unmute? He just needs to. Okay. Those designers, if you, if you unmute, you can talk. Hey, Lauren, was that getting hit? Let's, let's unmute Jason and David as well. Uh, and, and, uh, and, and definitely Walter Isaacson, if you just want to speak.
Paragraph 1: I actually, um, Yeah, sure. We'll get a few people going here. I thought we had, um, half an hour for this interview. I know it was so good. It's, we just got to go. I was told you were very pressed for time. Um, yeah, that's true. Alex, you can speak.
Paragraph 2: Hey, what's going on? Oh, it was. Yeah. Uh, all right, that's better. Uh, so my question actually had to do with more privileges or features for long term. Twitter blue subscribers. Uh, one of the complaints I hear a lot is people who change their, just their profile picture and not their, just explaining them. Um, how they lose their verification badge. Um, I know there's an ID verification coming up as well.
Paragraph 3: What are your thoughts for expanding privileges for the long term? Expanding privileges for long time subscribers. So they kind of gain trust with the platform where they might not have to lose their blue jacket. They just changed their profile picture as opposed to their name and profile picture.
Paragraph 4: Yeah, just, you know, during this kind of, uh, transition period, we're, um, extra vigilant about impersonation. So I agree that over time, if somebody has a trusted track record, they should be able to change their, their name and profile picture, uh, without losing the blue check. You know, during this transition period, uh, we want to be just like said, extra vigilant against, uh, impersonation. So, um, that, that's, that's why we're being so rigorous in this regard.
Paragraph 5: Now, if somebody has, um, organizational falliation, they can't change their name or picture, uh, without losing the verification check, um, because they're cross verified with their organization. Um, so I really would encourage people to get organizational verification, um, as much as possible. And, um, and we're going to, we're going to add, you know, so you can have multiple organizational fallations.
Paragraph 6: Um, I think this is going to be really powerful for avoiding impersonation. I've heard from a lot of people that impersonation is a serious issue. Um, actually more on other platforms than Twitter. Uh, and I think that, um, you know, if you can say that you, you really do belong to, if the organization, if some organization can say that, uh, you really do belong to them, that's a great way to address, uh, information risk. Yeah, for sure. Thank you.
Paragraph 7: Cool. Hey, Long, can you hear me? I can, yes. How's it going? Good. I was going. I'll go. I'm flying to US tomorrow. I just have a couple of questions for you. One is like, I will be asked why you are here in like US. So what should I tell them? I'm here to visit Twitter headquarters or just Twitter headquarters. Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, I recommend adding the W for this. I'm a for sure.
第七段:好的。嗨,龙,你能听到我吗?能听到,是的。怎么样?很好。我也这样认为。我要走了。我明天要飞往美国。我只有几个问题想问你。其中一个是,我会被问到你在美国为什么在这里,我该告诉他们什么?我是来参观 Twitter 总部还是只是参观 Twitter 总部?是的。好吧,我的建议是这个 W 加上去,我肯定。
Paragraph 8: And second question is like, can I be able to meet the Twitter CEO there? Or no? Sure. Perfect. Can't wait.
第二个问题是,我能在那里见到Twitter的CEO吗?还是不行?当然可以!太棒了,迫不及待想去了。
Paragraph 9: And I just have one message for James, uh, like, you know, the number of people like, you know, in this Twitter space, so you should be responsible, like, you should be a responsible reporter. You are claiming that you are seeing a lot of hate speech, but you could not even give a single example. So I just request you to be a responsible speaker. That's it. All right. Thank you. Thank you.
Paragraph 10: So, uh, let's see, uh, David and Jason, I don't know if you guys can speak. Um, uh, do you welcome to, if you'd like?
那么,嗯,让我们看看,大卫和杰森,我不知道你们会不会说话。如果你们想要的话,欢迎发言。
Paragraph 11: I just want to clear up what, what I said that I, you said, you said, has, has you, I believe I said something like, has you a feed? I said, my full-view feed has got a bit more hateful. I didn't say I was seeing tons of hate speech on it. That's not what I said.
Paragraph 12: No, but you can, I mean, you can frame it like that. Well, I like it. Record it. So, you know, uh, it's not like, uh, we're not going to have to engage in guesswork here. It's recorded.
Paragraph 13: In terms of your, for you, feed, you're just trying to, you're trying to get as many videos that are viral to, to people as possible to get people to stay on the platform. Is that, is that, is that, is that,
就你个人而言,你正努力让尽可能多的热门视频传播给人们,以使人们留在这个平台上。这样做是吗?
Paragraph 14: Well, I think if we keep people entertained, then they're going to keep, they're going to, yeah, I mean, if we're entertaining and performing people, then they're going to step on the puffle. That obviously, I mean, that's if we bore people or it's like, you know, somehow uninteresting, then they will be. Um, yeah.
Paragraph 15: There has been this talk that, um, that people like you and, and other senior celebrities, uh, some journalists get favorable treatment on the algorithms.
第15段:有一些谈话声称像你这样的名人和其他高级名人,以及一些记者在算法上得到了优待。
Paragraph 16: Well, you get a cable treatment right now. Do you give yourself favorable, favorable treatment on the algorithm?
好的,现在你正在接受电缆治疗。你会在算法中给自己提供良好的待遇吗?
Paragraph 17: No. In fact, the algorithm is, uh, is open sourced. Uh, so you can see exactly what's going on. I believe the feet, the fee you want us, right? So, following is just to prove you follow. It's pretty, right?
Paragraph 2: In, in, in following, you should see all the tweets of people that you follow. If not, there's a bugging system. Right. Just, just sequentially. When they tweet. Yeah. Yeah, following is literally the thing they say when they say it. There's no, but there shouldn't be any algorithm interaction there. Um, so.
Paragraph 3: Um, it's just hard to actually see. I think. Well, I, I definitely see some room for improvement from functionality standpoint. Uh, because when you have a really big spaces, it's hard to. See who it's actually hard to even see who's, um, requesting to speak. There's so many. You do that there, but don't people in the classroom hear?
Paragraph 4: Okay, so long. Long this. Okay. I've got a, I've got a question here. Someone's texted me. Okay. What about Elon Jat? Uh, what about him? That was obviously quite a controversial moment when. I think you, but I think you found his account for a while. And then you could only, you couldn't lie because he was doxing you. Yeah, real time, uh, doxing of locations.
Paragraph 5: Is that okay? Is that flexing your muscle over? I mean. That was just a real time doxing is not not allowed. Because. It's a picture of someone in the street and then Twitter is not doxing. Uh, it fits against their will and you're, you're sort of following them around. Then yeah, there would be doxing. But Elon Jat wasn't wasn't following you around. Just using publicly available information, wasn't he?
Paragraph 6: I mean, it wasn't he actually with the thing. Under the debate. I know this debate about that. Yeah, he was using non public information, do you find with public information? Do you do you think that you, you sort of gave yourself favorable treatment that? I mean, that, that's the criticism on that.
Paragraph 7: No, it's just real time doxing is not allowed. But that wasn't right, but that wasn't you, you literally created that rule after that. Actually, no, it just was unevenly enforced. Right. So there's a no doxing rule. It was unevenly enforced. In fact, in general, a lot of the issue with the prior management Twitter is they're, they'll have all these rules, but they've only enforced them against some people and not against others.
Paragraph 8: You know what doxing generally means, which is revealing some of the address? Yes. Where they are. Right. As I say, taking a picture is revealing something by someone else. Yeah, that's not a concept. Yeah, and take a picture of likes of people. And then if you can't recognize them, then it's not a thing. I think it was clarified where they would say that if it was a public event, like the concert or say a political rally or whatever, that's a public space rather than somebody is traveling, you know, I think there's the distinction there.
Paragraph 9: Yeah, it's not someone's house, right? If you're going to somebody's house and you're taking a photo of it, say jakey rolling, right? Some several people have harassed her house. That would be doxing, right? And they have been gotten rid of. So I don't know what a question is, your James. It was actually a question. It got texted to me. I wasn't on my list. Let's move on. To be honest, I'm done.
Paragraph 10: Okay, do it. I'm happy to. If you were to carry on doing questions, maybe, what? Welcome to. This would be the first time the interview has ever walked out of an event. How deterrent it will. How long are you going to sit here for? We're just going to pack up around you. Yeah, that sounds good.
Paragraph 11: Alright, we're looking to do it. Elon, thank you very much for talking to me. You're welcome. So it was fun. Elon. Yeah, I enjoyed it thoroughly. Sounds good. Well, this has really given me a long list of future improvements that we need for spaces. Oh, yeah, I, I, yeah, I have a bunch of suggestions. I'm not right now, but I do. Yeah.
Paragraph 12: Being on Twitter space every single day, there are a host of problems. First of all, where's the desktop app? Right? I want to connect it to a nice microphone. Yeah. And it's pretty good, but it's like, you know, it's yeah, a lot of things need to be improved. That's for sure. Oh, yeah. There's a laundry list of things.
Paragraph 13: How often do you stop Twitter spaces? faces? No, not really. And I actually don't even have a boner account. I do have a second account at this point because I need to test the app before it goes out. So it's kind of like a beta test account. But I don't have a boner or anything like that. And never have had. So no peer. What was the guys?
Paragraph 14: Peered to like to. Me, the bomb is pure. Pure delecto. Pure delectos and Zaza demons. Yeah, none of those. Okay. Nope. Um, so well, let's see. I mean, any any key points anyone wants to make, otherwise I'll sign off for a few minutes. Um, I'm just, I don't know if the other guys do. I think whole Omar's blog is so here. Maybe he has a question.
Paragraph 1: Yeah, I had one question about Twitter. Uh, you know, on some media had been reporting today that Twitter bought 10,000 GPUs for some type of generative AI project.
Paragraph 2: And I also noticed that on Twitter, there were a couple of people who mentioned working at AI infrastructure, the supercomputing team at both Tesla and Twitter.
我还注意到 Twitter 上有几个人提到在 AI 基础设施和超级计算团队中工作,他们分别就职于特斯拉和 Twitter。
Paragraph 3: I was wondering if you could share anything with us about what Twitter is working on there.
我想知道你是否可以与我们分享一些Twitter正在做的事情。
Paragraph 4: And if there's maybe any synergies, maybe, you know, Twitter using Dojo or something like that. Or what exactly is going on with this project?
Paragraph 9: So I think there's a lot of potential there with Dojo that people don't realize.
所以我认为,人们没有意识到使用Dojo的潜力是非常大的。
Paragraph 10: Um, yeah. Oh, actually, I do have a question. And well, I guess people keep DMing me. Uh, they're wondering, what's the future of the Twitter files that do you still have any journalists working on these things? Or no?
Paragraph 11: Uh, yeah, I mean, at some point we need to move on from the Twitter files.
嗯,是的,我指的是我们需要从 Twitter 文件中移动出来。
Paragraph 12: But um, I think there's a few things, uh, left, uh, but, uh, you know, generally, I think we, there's, there's not, there's not a lot that I'm aware of that's left.
但是,我认为还有一些事情留下来了,但是总的来说,我认为我们没有留下很多。
Paragraph 13: So, um, it's mostly just like, you know, let's just move on to the future.
所以,嗯,主要就是,你知道的,让我们继续走向未来。
Paragraph 14: Um, yeah. What's fair? Yeah. I think, uh, yeah, I think that's more or less true.
嗯,是啊。什么才算是公平呢?嗯,我认为,更或多或少是对的。
Paragraph 15: Uh, what are your thoughts on, you know, companies like Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, kind of following Twitter's footsteps, you know, I think Facebook recently did a verification thing for $50, which is like double the price. But what's your, what's your thoughts on that?
Paragraph 16: Yeah, like I said, uh, my opinion is that any, uh, social media organization that does not insist on paid verification, uh, will be worthless.
我的意见是,任何不坚持付费验证的社交媒体组织都将毫无价值。
Paragraph 17: Um, because at this point, uh, you take Instagram, for example, uh, if you, you can generate an infinite number of those picks using my journey, um, and, you know, for free.
Paragraph 18: Um, and you can get, at this point, um, modern AI can pass, you know, any human verification test.
嗯,在这个阶段,现代人工智能可以通过任何人类验证测试。
Paragraph 19: Um, so the, the only solution that I can think of is to increase the cost of, of fake accounts.
嗯,我想到的唯一解决方案是增加虚假账户的成本。这样做可以防止人们滥用虚假账户的行为。
Paragraph 20: Um, so if, if somebody's paying on the order of eight bucks a month, that's $100 a year, um, and they also need to get a credit card and a phone number from a reputable, a capital carrier.
Paragraph 21: So, so then like, it's much harder to create like a million bots.
所以,那么说,要创建一百万个机器人就要更加困难。
Paragraph 22: Um, whereas, uh, if you don't require those things, it's trivial, frankly, uh, to create a million bots.
嗯,如果您不需要这些东西,创建一百万个机器人实际上就是小事一桩。
Paragraph 23: Um, and they'll also be very human.
嗯,它们也会非常有人性。
Paragraph 24: Um, and it will take very little computing effort to do so.
这句话的意思是:嗯,这样做所需的计算量很少。
Paragraph 25: Um, so that's why I think basically, uh, any social media that does not require, um, uh, paid verification will basically, uh, cease to be relevant.
因此,我认为基本上任何不需要付费验证的社交媒体都将不再具有相关性。
Paragraph 26: Makes sense.
这很有道理。
Paragraph 27: Um, speaking of generative, uh, content, uh, is it possible for you guys to add a flag that says that, hey, this video or this image is, uh, you know, for like, like, I make a lot of AI generated content.
Paragraph 35: Like, like, you can get the voice match.
和语音是否匹配相关的功能可以被实现。
Paragraph 36: Yep.
没错。
Paragraph 37: In the video match.
在视频比赛中。
Paragraph 38: I mean, it's really going to get, it's a really getting point where you, it'll be quite easy to generate, uh, extremely realistic fake videos, images, so forth, um, and, and voice.
我的意思是,现在产生极为逼真的假视频、假图片和声音将变得非常容易。
Paragraph 39: Um, I mean, I saw like a fake, um, like, uh, Joe Rogan interview, um, and it really sounded like Joe Rogan's voice.
我是说,我看到了一篇仿制的Joe Rogan采访,它听起来真的像是Joe Rogan的声音。
Paragraph 40: Um, um, I sent it to, to Joe and he was like, was crazy.
嗯,我把它发送给了乔,他当时很兴奋。
Paragraph 41: Um, so, so yeah, I think verification is going to be extremely fundamental in the future.
嗯,我认为在未来,验证将会变得非常基础和重要。
Paragraph 42: Uh, that's where we're so focused on it.
嗯,那就是我们非常关注的地方。
Paragraph 43: So, I mean, the reason I brought that up is, you know, as a content creator, uh, I'd like to keep making those in.
所以,我的意思是,作为一个内容创造者,我希望能够继续创作那些内容。
Paragraph 44: I don't want to necessarily fool people, right?
我并不一定想要欺骗人们,对吧?
Paragraph 45: So would it be possible to, I don't know, add a flag to it so that, you know, content creators can say, hey, this is e i generative content.
那么,是否有可能增加一个标志,让内容的创作者可以标示这是生成性内容呢?
Paragraph 46: Don't take it seriously it's a parody.
不要认真对待它,这是一个恶搞。
Paragraph 47: Well, I think in the, in the, in the tweet, you're in the post, uh, I think it would be advisable to say that this is not real.
好的,我觉得在这条推文或者帖子中,最好说明这不是真的。
Paragraph 48: Right.
好的。
Paragraph 49: It's, if it is something that can be, um, potentially misinterpreted.
如果这是某件容易被曲解的事情,那么它可能会被曲解。
Paragraph 50: Um, okay. So it's all, it was crazy how viral that, uh, you know, picture of the, of the Pope with the, you know, awesome, but the Saga.
嗯,好的。所以那张教皇与总督一起的照片非常火爆,但同时也很疯狂。
Paragraph 51: Yeah. Yeah.
是的。是的。
Paragraph 52: Um, oh, there was a lot of Joe Biden falling off the airplane.
Paragraph 55: You can also, I'll see, like the best advertising of Lensy August ever gotten in, in their turn.
你也可以像Lensy August最好的广告一样,在你的回报中获得最大的好处。
Paragraph 1: Um, like the Harry Potter of Lensy August, Demon Flying Fox one was it was genius. That was amazing. Work of our, he did it. Do you want today?
Paragraph 2: Yeah. A lot of the rings I think. Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing. Um, um, and actually, even the, even the AI fashion is great. Right. I mean, if, if I was a fashion designer, I'd be taking ideas from this because the stuff that makes it actually original, right? Yeah.
Paragraph 3: Like the AI fashion is incredible. Yeah. So I mean, just, can we just like print that somehow or make it? Because, uh, yeah, it's amazing. Um, maybe you should batten the idea, you know, just have like a D.I. Fashion Generator thing that prints them out and, you know, it's like a, like, I think there's craft or something, right?
Paragraph 4: Like the clothing manufacturer thing that you can do it at home. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That and, uh, you can make so much money. Well, I don't, I don't really believe in patents actually. Um, make it up to torque. Yeah. So, but yeah, I mean, there's really some amazing, uh, AI jar, uh, clothing. It's really cool.
Paragraph 5: Um, and that, with that, I really love that one with the Pope. And that would inspire a lot of people to put that, the Pope actually had that outfit, um, which is like totally out of the question because there's a lot of amazing fashion in Italy. So it's possible that some, you know, fashion has made a really epic code for the Pope. Uh, you know, and, um, but that, that was, that was obviously AI generated. I mean, we're headed into a weird world here.
第五段:嗯,我真的很喜欢那个教皇的造型,它可以激励很多人去效仿,但事实上,这种服饰在意大利美丽多姿的时尚界中可能并不流行。也许有些时尚设计师为教皇定制过一些非常震撼的衣服,但那个 AI 生成的教皇造型显然不是真人。我们正进入一个奇怪的世界。
Paragraph 6: We are. We're, we're, like, just, I try to figure out what's real is super hard. Yeah. I mean, I, I mean, I fooled millions of people of the, uh, you know, the one of Joe Biden fall off the airplane. So I mean, anything's possible, right? Well, that, I mean, he has, uh, some of the few times on the stairwell, so, you know, the stairways.
Paragraph 7: So that's, that's, you know, it's quite quite believable in that situation. So, um, yeah, there are a bunch of things like very close to the truth are quite reasonable to expect that people would interpret that as, as possibly true. Um, so yeah, I think just, just verification that an account is real, that material is real. Um, the, what is real anymore is, uh, extremely fundamental question.
Paragraph 8: Uh, the poster of the world, right? I mean, that's a built in news to say. Yeah. So, well, here, so here at Twitter, we're going to be very focused on, um, you know, bringing out what's real and it's not real, then, yeah, you know, trying to address it. I mean, I think Nick's over doing a great job of, you know, covering the news, right? Like, four hours ahead of the AP.
Paragraph 9: So, I mean, that's a big plus for Twitter that it, you know, yes, this isn't journalists now who are able to cover this stuff hours before anybody else. Yeah, I mean, if we, if we went to real time news, this was the best place. This is, it's Twitter. Um, and, um, and, you know, like I said, you know, any given source of information is going to have some degree of inaccuracy and we're just inspired to make that as small as possible.
Paragraph 10: Um, and iterate towards, um, a, you know, being closer to the truth over time, that is our goal. Um, yeah, that's a good goal. And, but we're not, we're definitely not going to assert that everything we say is, uh, you know, everything you see on Twitter is true because it isn't.
Paragraph 11: Um, yeah, I think, um, you know, what you're talking about, what I want to do very skeptically, any organization that claims to be, uh, completely truthful. Um, yeah, you know, so, because they're not. And so that, that, that, that very claim is false. Um, um, so, you know, I think it's important to reflect on what mistakes are making and try to make fewer of them in the future. Yeah, iterate.
Paragraph 12: Unlike, you know, media. Could you tell us about X Corp? Is this just something that's like a legal thing that you had to do or is there maybe something more to it?
与媒体不同,你能告诉我们关于X公司的情况吗?这只是你必须做的法律事项,还是可能有更多的东西吗?
Paragraph 13: There is something more to it. Um, yeah. You want to call it like, like, like, my goals to create X, the X, the everything out, you know, that the goal, uh, is we're working towards. Nice. Uh, Twitter is the first step. Yeah, Twitter is an accelerant to X.
Paragraph 14: The everything. What does that, what does it mean? Well, I guess you will have to stay tuned to find out. Oh, I love it. I've canceled my Netflix. Twitter is taking my time. Yeah. Thank you for that. Like, it's very entertaining. Very entertaining.
Paragraph 15: I was, I was thinking like, like Twitter does make a miserable at times, but it actually makes me laugh as well. And, you know, and I think if it's sort of entertaining and informative and, um, that then we're doing a job. Like, there's a difference between Twitter and TikTok because TikTok is mostly passive entertainment.
Paragraph 1: You're just watching videos, right? But on Twitter, you're interacting. You're seeing things to people. And when you tweet at a celebrity, there's a pretty good chance to read your tweets and they get irritated by it. Let's see you're trolling them. Which is what I do.
Paragraph 2: So, I mean, it's good. It's fun. Having that reaction. It's like, it's like playing a video game, but better. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. Exactly. I mean, honestly, this is Twitter is troll haven't. I'll tell you. And a lot of the media is going to hit it because they, you know, they want to control space. It's, it's, it's, it's totally troll haven't on Twitter.
Paragraph 3: And, and things like even I even get trolled and I'm like, God, I like, why did I get trolled again? That was really right. Yeah, I get. And it's like, well, you know, part and parcel of being on Twitter. Yeah, totally. Is worth on that?
Paragraph 4: On that note, did you see the guy who got charged for a meme on Twitter? What were your thoughts on that? I know you commented on it. I didn't know if you got to look more into it. His name's Douglas Mackey.
Paragraph 5: Oh, that's the guy who, I guess was accused of election interference or something. Yeah, I got a close to you. You got a counselor from Totspurk? Your vote, doesn't it? Yeah, like people shouldn't believe everything that they see online. And, you know, I don't think that should be criminal.
Paragraph 6: No, I think criminal is a, that's over the top there. I would agree with that. That's they went too far. If that's the standard for throwing someone in prison, then there's a lot of people in prison. Yeah, what do you prison for? Oh, meme crimes.
Paragraph 7: Exactly. Meanwhile, it's like motor is running free. Yeah, exactly. Precisely. I mean, look at San Francisco. We had pretty damn good example. Look at crime there. I was in San Francisco. I don't know. The decade ago was fine. And now I look at it and it's like, I don't recognize this place anymore. Yeah.
Paragraph 8: It really needs something to be done about the crime situation in San Francisco. The area around Twitter's headquarters especially is like zombie apocalypse is the perfect way to describe it. Yeah, literally.
Paragraph 9: It's like, if people sort of think, oh, maybe you're exaggerating. I'm like, no, you can just not come here any day of the week. Including like, you know, 10 in the morning or two in the afternoon. Like we're not talking like, you know, midnight stuff. Literally, mid-morning, you know, driving into Twitter, it looks like it looks insane. So it just feel like you can just come here and see for the run out with our eyes. It's, you know, it's next level. Or, you know, watch the videos on Twitter because it's safer.
Paragraph 10: Yeah. It's sad as it is. It's like, you're like, whoa. I mean, it can be overplayed too. I mean, I spend my time often being outside Twitter with a camera doing live. Really? Outside Twitter? Yeah.
Paragraph 11: Like, what are you doing? Like, pointing camera at the sign of having? Pointing a camera at me with Twitter behind. They're really? Are you serious? Yeah. Okay. Why? Because it's more sort of gives it on the answer something? Yeah.
Paragraph 12: You must have seen the news, right? That's the. I know. I, well, I, I, I, I suppose I have seen a few things where this sort of people doing interviews with the Twitter sign in the background. And I, I guess that's more interesting than just being in a studio or something.
Paragraph 13: Well, I mean, next time I do it, you can just invite me in. Okay. Sure. Just shoot me in. Great. But it's, it's, the W is now a background color. So. I didn't agree. Look, I, I hold a, I held a poll and there was a strong guess on Twitter. Removing the value. Right. You've got to invite a bit of people. It boxed popular. Boxed day. Exactly.
Paragraph 14: In some exceptions, no lots of people already stopped. No, I just, look, I, I, I, I said, I said I would point a new studio when I did it. It was my dog. I don't want to have, what do you get against dogs? They're fine. Dogs are great. They hit dogs.
Paragraph 15: So this is only dog haters would be opposed to making the dogs a year. I see people saying, Oh, you promised a quit and stepped on. I'm like, well, no. The, the dogs to see you. Yeah. The dogs to see you. Like, what are you complaining about? Yeah. It's great dog. I mean, there aren't towns where the mayor is the dog, right? They elect a dog because all the people suck.
Paragraph 16: Yeah. It's the same thing. Yeah. Dogs always cool. Yeah. It's got greatest things. Yeah. Anyway, I hope people have a good time on Twitter and learn things. And, you know, like I said, the acid test is undergrated user time. And if it's undergrated user time is growing, then we're doing the right thing. It's good. I like to hear that.
Paragraph 17: I mean, I love Twitter. And good to see things go onward and upward. All right, sounds good. Well, good talking, guys. I'll head back to work. And thanks for all your feedback. Yeah.