out malware here. Thanks for joining today. Of course, we're going to be going through Tesla's Q4 2024 earnings report. If you are joining the live stream, glad to have you with us. We should have the earnings report come out in about 10 to 15 minutes or so. We'll chat a little bit before that. If you're joining afterwards, the timestamp will indicate when the actual earnings report does release. Also in the show description, you'll find a link to the earnings call to come later today. We'll listen to that together. I'll take notes and then we can chat about that afterwards as well. But good to be back. Good to see everyone for this quarterly check-in. Always a fun time.
It's been a pretty crazy last quarter for Tesla, obviously at least with the stock price we can see today going into earnings we're down a couple of percent, tougher day for the NASDAQ 2. Down about six-tenths of a percent. It's actually recovered a little bit throughout the day, maybe related to the FOMC meeting and comments. Seemed like we had a little bit of a jump after that. Haven't followed that super closely, so probably have to look more at the news for what's going on there. But anyway, we had into earnings at about $390 or share here. Of course, over the last few months that we've had a pretty steep increase, obviously since the election time period and things like that. And then we obviously had a strong reaction to the Q3 earnings report as well. So I think those things in tandem probably obviously pretty significantly contributing to the rise that we've seen here in the last few months. But nice to be at this $390 share price once again, even if it is a little bit lower than where we peaked at in recent days.
So before we get into earnings, I just wanted to chat a little bit before that comes out about the last quarter. If anyone has any questions or anything, feel free to put those in the chat. I see a super chat there. Thank you for that. I'll try to keep an eye on those things. Sometimes the super chats, even if they're like a dollar or whatever, make it a little bit easier to see if you do have a specific question that you'd like me to take a look at. And of course, after the earnings report, we'll have a little bit more time for that as well. So I guess first thing, let's just take a look at kind of what analyst consensus and expectations are as we head into the earnings report, and then I can share just a little bit of thoughts on my end. Let's switch over to Excel here.
So once we get the actual numbers, we'll fill this in so we can kind of level set versus previous quarters and versus consensus. But as you can see, consensus is available here. Really nice quarter. We haven't talked about deliveries or energy yet. Obviously, the delivery number all time high energy deliveries also an all time high deliveries were a little bit short of the 510, 510, 510, 510 or so that it would have required for Tesla to have a year over your growth, which is actually what they said to expect heading into the quarter. So a bit of a miss on deliveries in terms of those expectations that Tesla set. But I think if you kind of look at the business and aggregate, if you merge deliveries between auto and energy, I think the energy storage probably, you know, making up for most of if not all of that shortfall in the delivery number, at least in terms of the profit that's probably going to be generated from those line items.
So overall, obviously, still a record setting quarter, I think a strong quarter for Tesla. And since then, now we're heading into 2025, which should bring, hopefully, you continue for their advancements in full self driving, which we'll talk a little bit more about in a second. Obviously, we've seen the new Model Y update in the last couple of weeks. So excited about that. It seems like Tesla has a pretty good strategy in terms of ramping up production, rolling that out as we begin the year here. Anyway, looks like about 27.1, 27.2 billion dollars expected in terms of revenue by analysts. That's a little bit higher than last quarter, a little bit less than 10% higher than last quarter. Total gross profit, they're expecting about five billion pretty close to last quarter. So expecting lower gross margins this quarter, last quarter, we did have a couple of notable items on the gross margin line. Regulatory Reddit regulatory credits were about $740 million. That was down from Q2, but still relatively higher than where we had seen regulatory credits coming in. So I wouldn't be surprised if they're around that level again, but just a significant portion when we're talking about specifically the gross profit line, since obviously those regulatory credits flow through.
So something to keep an eye on there, excuse me. And then we did have, I've got a little note down here, but we did have $326 million of FSD revenue recognized in the third quarter related to Cybertruck and certain features, like actually smart summon. So I think people get this a little bit mixed up. It's both of those items, Cybertruck and actually smart summon. I think a good portion of that is Cybertruck, but not necessarily all of it. That definitely, at least in my opinion, contributed to the milestone that Tesla announced last quarter, which was achieving profitability on the Cybertruck. I would be a little bit surprised if that's the case in Q4. I don't know that we saw that much more significant volume, but hopefully Tesla is continuing to keep those costs coming down.
Really the best way for anyone to look at it, including Tesla. I'm sure this is how they're looking at it. It's just the average cost of goods sold on those vehicles as production continues to ramp for Cybertruck. So factoring out the FSD revenue and deferred revenue specifically on that, obviously that should calculate into overall automotive gross margins and the Cybertruck margins and things. It is real money, real profit that Tesla has earned. Just the deferred portion, if you take revenue that you earned in a previous quarter and you apply that in a time margin revenue in one quarter specifically, it's going to inflate that quarter, not necessarily in a way that's sustainable going forward. So that's the only thing to just keep an eye on. Or more things, but one thing to keep an eye on is that deferred revenue.
We may still get some more in this fourth quarter we'll have to see, but those two in tandem about a billion dollars in relatively high margin revenue. So I think that's part of why analysts are even with the higher delivery number expecting maybe a little bit of a drop in gross margin. That's probably fair. Ultimately, at the end of the day, we're seeing a forecast to drop in operating margin as well. And then gap earnings for share up a little bit again on the higher revenue base. So even though your percentages here are a little bit lower when you're generating more revenue, that means more profit in terms of the dollars. So ultimately, analysts are expecting about 77 cents non-gap earnings per share, 66 cents gap. One note on the gap earnings for share, you may remember that last year Tesla had deferred revenue recognized that really inflated gap earnings per share by about $1.70 it looks like.
So as we get these numbers, if you look at a price to earnings ratio, we factored that out in sort of our historical number here. But if you're looking at price to earnings ratio, that's just going to report the gap number. So that's going to be inflated. That deferred tax revenue adjustment will drop off once we get these numbers. So just something to keep in mind that the price to earnings ratio will spike a bit after this, unless we have for some reason, and insanely good quarter, which one even makes sense. So a couple of things just keep an eye on as we head into the earnings report here.
All right, so let's see. Thank you all for those super chats. Appreciate that. Lily Warbird team JG. All right, we've got a couple of minutes before market close. Let me switch over back to the browser. We'll just keep an eye on things as we head into close. We should get the earnings report. I don't know. A few minutes after close, generally it seems like it's been within five minutes. Eric asking, appreciate the super chat. Eric asking if I'm higher or lower earnings for share than consensus. I stopped doing my specific quarterly forecasts a few quarters ago. So I don't you know, I don't have an estimate this time. For a number of reasons, number one, just obviously stepping back from Tesla daily. I'm not following the company as closely, still extremely closely. It would be hard to compete with how it was before, still very closely. But the quarterly numbers right now, I just don't think are really all that important, whether we get 80 cents earnings per share, you know, 68 cents earnings per share, whatever the case may be, a lot of those things are going to be driven by one time items anyway. I think it's more important to look at some of the things like automotive gross margin X credits, which of course we'll talk about. Our really nice improvement there last quarter. That was one of the things that I think led to the strong positive reaction.
Cost per goods sold, average cost of goods sold per vehicle was down about $1,700 from the prior quarter last quarter. So that was really great to see. And I think gave the market confidence that Tesla can continue to have pricing power and hopefully continue to grow volumes. And hopefully we, you know, with the Model Y refresh, hopefully Tesla through the design process is built in ways to continue to drive that average cost of goods vehicle, average cost of goods sold per vehicle down throughout this year as well. Obviously, that's not going to happen immediately. They'll have to get ramped up back to volume production, and that'll probably cause a hit not in Q4, but in future quarters, you know, Q1, Q2, until Tesla gets ramped back up.
It did seem like a lot of people on, on X or, you know, some of the analysts, more detail, and all this forecast that I've seen have been a little bit lower than this. So I'd, I'd suppose like the whisper number is probably a little bit lower than the 77 cents. But, you know, for me, like I was beginning to say, not, not too important. Other parts of the earnings report, I think are going to be more interesting. And right now, you know, no surprise, really the big focus for everyone should be progress of FSD. I posted this a few quarters ago. My thoughts there have not changed. I don't really care if Tesla's delivering 495,000 or 510,000 vehicles. It's, you know, a marginal difference. What really matters right now is the, the pace of progress and the, and the actual progress for FSD. I think there's been a lot of that. And if that can continue this year, as Tesla talked about on the previous calls, I think they saw 100 to 1000 times improvement in the safety critical disengagement rate on FSD throughout the course of 2024. And they expect that rate of progress to continue through 2025. If that's the case, no, I don't care what those quarters earnings are. So maybe a bit of a, bit of a cop out of answer there, but FSD is definitely the most important during this period of time. Secondarily to that, Tesla's talked about new products. Obviously, we've saw the refresh now. We've seen the refresh now with the Model Y. But my understanding is that there are additional products that we should see throughout the course of this year. So that's more of an earnings call topic. Most likely, maybe they talk a little bit about it in the shareholder deck, but something to keep an eye on there too.
All right, I did have more to talk about where we're getting into market clothes here. So let's switch back. Let's just see if anything's coming out. Sorry for the commotion outside. As you guys probably remember, I'm sure you can hear that. Nothing too big in after hours movement yet. We're just about a minute after market close at the moment. So I wouldn't expect the report to be out. But I've got the page queued up here. Sometimes the refreshing doesn't work. I can empty my cash. But we'll see. I've got this. What I expect to be the hyperlink loaded up as well, the key three earnings reports, and then we can just check on X here and see if anything's going on. Sometimes we never know what we're going to see here, obviously. But sometimes I can give us a little bit of a hint too. So most of the times it seems like we get our first hint from the some sort of significant movement after hours as algorithms react to whatever earnings per share number or revenue number or whatever other number that they're filtering out from the earnings report when it gets released, automatically really reacting to those things.
All right. See another couple other super chats coming in here. Thank you for those guys. Appreciate that. Harry, appreciate that. I do think about it right now. The quarterly pace is good for me, but I do see the comments that are urging more frequency. Always appreciate the feedback. So if that's something that people really want, it is helpful to tell me. Otherwise, I'll assume not. And Jeff, thank you. Two seconds talking about the hate for Musk and if you think things will affect, if that will affect things going forward. Yeah, so it's obviously a very political time. It's probably not the best time to get into this conversation when we're expecting the earnings report. Just in a couple of minutes here, it's obviously that's a little bit more of a lengthy conversation. I'll try to remember that, whether it's at the end of this episode or the end of earnings, I'm sure this will come up again. You know, I don't want to get too deep into politics, but obviously it's relevant to what's going on with Tesla, what's going on with the stock price and things like that. So definitely a fair topic to discuss.
All right, a little bit of movement here. Let's see if we've got anything doesn't seem to be anything yet. Still not a ton of movement. Let me try to get caught back up here in the chat, because sometimes you guys spot it before I do. Looks like we're kind of back to flat after hours. John, thank you. Appreciate that. Guicaholic. Thank you. Lyle, thank you. Most interested in power and semi topics. Tesla energy's been doing great. I know that's pretty obvious, but exciting to see. I'm curious on the profit. Profit margin this quarter. Last quarter was very strong. And we had even better delivery. What's that? See if that's real. Sometimes Google after hours just has those false spikes. I don't know if that's like option stuff or just errors. Okay, let's see.
All right, so it's out. We just got this refresh here that that link worked. As you can see market reacting initially a little bit negative, not too strong of a reaction yet, but we'll just take a quick look at some of the lower level numbers towards the bottom of the income statement. You can see earnings per share, 73 cents per share. So that's a little bit lower than analyst consensus. Not too far off from a lot of other estimates I saw, though. Not too far off of analyst consensus either. So it doesn't seem too crazy, but obviously depends still what's going on elsewhere. Looks like automotive revenues right off the bat. It seems like those are quite a bit lower than what was expected. I think 21.1 billion was the expectation from analysts. So that's probably driving a lot of this. But that could mean that we've got a better gross margin number, which as I'm seeing looks like no, but potentially. Yeah, interesting. I'm surprised that's as close as it is to consensus with some of these other numbers being lower like gap gross margin looks a little bit lower. Operating margin looks a little bit lower than expectations. And automotive revenue as well. So still coming relatively close. Obviously, we'll have to sort through exactly what's going on as we go through the report. I do want to read through it because again, the numbers are important, but there's probably other things that are more interesting or equally interesting to us. Right now it looks like after hours down about 4% or so. So the negative reaction continues off the bat here. I'm going to close this. Well, I'll leave this Q3 report open, but hopefully I don't get mixed up here.
All right, so let's take a look at some of the numbers here, the summary and the highlights that Tesla's put together. So 7.1 billion gap operating income in 2024 1.6 billion in Q4. Same on the net income line, but 2.3 billion in Q4, including 0.6 billion market to market gain on digital assets. So shoot, I meant to talk about that before the accounting rules for Bitcoin have changed. Usually in all the past reports that we talked about, it would be the situation where the accounting for Bitcoin would have to happen at the lowest price that Bitcoin had ever been at. And you'd have to market down to that. They changed that rule, so now you can actually reflect what it is currently at. And it looks like that led to a big markup here, which is about 6-10 of a billion, $600 million. That seems to be what's driving this earnings per share number closer to expectations. Otherwise, it does look like across the board, the numbers are probably quite a bit lower. It's tough to say if the analysts had that in their forecast, I would guess probably not, or maybe not 100% because maybe some analysts include it, maybe some don't. And that's what makes looking kind of like consensus or average numbers really tricky, because you never know exactly how people are going to factor in some of those things. But that's definitely a positive contributor to the earnings, and something that doesn't really have any material impact on the business. It's just the market to market. So there's no actually nothing to do with the core Tesla business, nothing to do with go forward, just only to do with how you expect Bitcoin to perform going forward. So something that should probably be factored out and definitely driving closer to consensus expectations as a part of that, which then means if you remove that, the numbers will look more negative.
Okay, so 8.4 billion non-Gapnet income in 2024, 2.6 billion in Q4, cash operating cash flow of about 15 billion throughout the year, 4.8 billion in Q4, really nice free cash flow. Of course, production was lower than deliveries. So it kind of makes sense on that line, but 3.6 billion throughout the year, 2 billion in the fourth quarter, and a seven and a half billion dollar increase in cash and investments in 2024 to about 36 and a half billion dollars. Operations Tesla increased AI training compute by over 400% in 2024. Love to see that. And over 3 billion miles driven cumulatively on FSD supervised as of January, and completed construction of mega factory in Shanghai. So that's nice. We are starting to the point where a lay threat facility is close to at full production rate. So we're going to need mega factory Shanghai to start contributing to that production growth to continue to see the growth that we've seen on the energy storage deployment line.
Alright, for the summary, Tesla said Q4 was a record quarter for both vehicle deliveries and energy storage deployments. We expect Model Y to once again be the best selling vehicle of any kind globally for the full year 2024. And we've made it even better with a new Model Y now launched in all markets in 2024. We made significant investments in infrastructure that will spur the next wave of growth for the company, including vehicle manufacturing capabilities for new models, AI training compute, and energy storage manufacturing capacity. Affordability remains top of mind for customers and we continue to review every aspect of our cost of goods sold per vehicle to alleviate this concern. And Q4 costs of goods per vehicle reach its lowest level ever at less than $35,000. We'll calculate that specifically later driven largely by raw material cost improvement, helping us to partially offset our investment in compelling financing and lease options. The energy business achieved another record in Q4 with its highest ever girls profit generation. Construction of mega factory Shanghai was completed in December
and would begin ramping this quarter. Powerwall deployments achieved another record quarter as we continue to ramp powerwall three production and launch in additional markets. 2025 will be a seminal year in Tesla's history as FSD supervised continues to rapidly improve with the aim of ultimately exceeding human levels of safety. This will eventually unlock unsupervised FSD for our customers and the robots taxi business, which we expect to begin launching later this year in parts of the US. We also continue to work on launching FSD supervised in Europe and China in 2025.
Alright, so I think a lot of things that we've heard Tesla talk quite a bit about. We talked about the new model Y before this. They do talk about the next wave of growth, including vehicle manufacturing capabilities for new models. I don't know if I'd call it a red flag, sorry, if I'm covering that. But it does, it is a, to me, a change in the language versus what Tesla had said in Q3. So if we kind of go back to that, it talks about preparations remain underway for our offering of new vehicles, including more affordable models, which we will begin launching in the first half of 2025. Hopefully, Tesla will talk about this on the earnings call. Hopefully, it's just a change in the language as we head into a new year and not really anything to do with the timeline. But vehicle manufacturing capabilities for new models is different than beginning launching affordable new models in the first half of 2025. Those are pretty stark contrast. So could mean a delay on those things. Hopefully, we'll get a little bit more information on that during the earnings call. But initially, definitely an item that I would have some questions on.
Energy high, silver, gross profit, and an energy generation in the fourth quarter. That's fantastic. We'll see what the margin rate was. No surprise with the 11 gigawatt hours of deliveries that we would see record profit in terms of dollars. Shanghai talked about that, nice to see power wall as well. Obviously, Megapack, probably the large driver in that energy deployment bucket now, but still nice to see power wall setting records as well. And then FSD, you know, kind of reiterating what we have heard from Tesla before. Again, this is probably the most important thing. Nice to hear Tesla talk about increasing the training compute by over 400% in in 2024. But of course, something that we knew about there. So again, I think probably most of the numbers here, including average selling price and, you know, maybe operating margins coming in below expectations. We'll see how much of this was regulatory credit revenue. If that's a low number, that can help explain things. See if we can find that somewhere Tesla sometimes moves these things around. So we'll keep it out for that. Let's see. See if we can find it here.
Alright, so $692 million of automotive regulatory credit revenue this quarter, a little bit lower than both of the last two quarters still quite a bit higher than last year's Q4, which was $43 million. If I had to guess, my guess is that's probably somewhere around what analyst expectations would have been on that regulatory credit revenue line. So still significant, not something that I would say, you know, if this had been a couple hundred million dollars, that would be much bigger of an explanation of revenue coming in below what analysts expected. And yes, those are just analyst expectations. It doesn't, that's not the end all be all of assessing the business. But at the end of the day, the stock price is also based on expectations, and those are informed by analyst expectations in both directions. So still important to consider. But let's continue to go through for some of the numbers.
Obviously, we'll take a closer look at that when we get back into Excel here in a minute, but still plenty for us to go through in the report. Just real quick on cost of goods sold, they did say that that declined below $35,000. So that means that we're at least a couple hundred dollars per unit less in the fourth quarter. Some of that can be attributed to volume. You have those costs amortized over more vehicles when you have higher delivery numbers. But still, we'll take a look at, you know, how much progress specifically was made there. So the financial summary, revenue increased 2% over year Q4, and improved from growth and energy generation and storage and services and other growth and vehicle deliveries, higher regulatory credit revenue. Again, this is a year over year look, so down a quarter over quarter, but up year over year, reduced vehicle average selling price, excluding foreign exchange impact due to pricing, attractive financing options and mix.
Profitability, operating income decreased 23% year over year to 1.4 or 1.6 billion in Q4, resulting in a 6.2% operating margin. Year over year, operating income was primarily impacted by the following items, reduced ASP, increased operating expenses driven by AI and other R&D projects. Again, we'll take a close look at that later on. Growth and energy, so offset by growth in energy, services and other, lower cost per vehicle, including lower raw material costs, partially offset by lower fixed cost absorption from production decrease year over year, and higher regulatory credit revenue. And then cash, quarter in cash, cash equivalents, as we said, about 36.5 billion, sequential increase of 2.9 billion, primarily the result of positive free cash flow, 2 billion in the fourth quarter. So here we can see production, deliveries, we already knew those numbers.
12 days of supply at the end of the year in terms of inventory. Nice to see that be a relatively lower number for Tesla versus the last few quarters. It's not the lowest we've ever seen it used to be single days. That was probably an unhealthy low position for inventory. This, I think is great if anything, it's probably on the low side, but with Tesla converting over to the new Model Y, it definitely makes sense for that to be the case. Heading into 2025.
Storage, we've talked about that. But obviously a fantastic number there with 11 gigawatt hours deployed in the fourth quarter. And then you can continue to see growth in Tesla locations. Looks like the mobile service fleet actually declined a little bit, which is somewhat unusual, but pretty slow growth, obviously, that we've been seeing throughout the year. So not terribly surprising, at least on that line. And then despite some of the criticisms and, you know, the drama with the supercharging team, still seeing continued healthy growth in supercharging stations and connectors, both quarter over quarter and year over year. Here are the year numbers.
We won't spend too much time on that. I guess just one, you know, really nice item to note. We already talked about deliveries being slightly down year over year. Production down 4% deliveries down 1%. But we can see here, energy storage, obviously one of the most successful parts of Tesla throughout 2024. That was up 114% in terms of storage deployed year over year. So nice to see that. All right, so vehicle capacity. Let's just take a quick look at this chart and see if there's any changes there from the third quarter chart, which is right here. I'm guessing probably not.
Yeah, so the... Yeah, nothing, at least my nothing changed there, except for, I think, next gen platform now is actually listed as, as cybercab, as being in development in Texas, rather than just various and next gen platform. Roadster still in development. So someday, hopefully. Alright, continuing here, vehicle capacity. Preparations are underway across our existing factories for the launch of new products in 2025, including more affordable models. All right, so we talked about that before. That is much more specific than the summary page. However, it does say in 2025, not necessarily in the first half of 2025. Maybe you could assume that the first half of 2025 portion of that was the new Model Y. There's debate about whether these, you know, new models that Tesla's been referring to consider the refresh Model Y as one of those or not.
Now we can clearly tell that although the new Model Y has been launched, there is still going to be launch of new products in 2025, including more affordable models. So that takes away some of that, you know, potential gray area there. But it does also look like that's probably going to happen a little bit later in the year than maybe was expected by some based on some of the language that had been used in the Q three earnings report that we looked at before. So I'm glad that they reiterated that. I'm glad that the 2025 timeline is reiterated. We haven't seen any of these new products as far as we know.
So not terribly surprising that that's not going to happen sometime in the next four or five months, potentially, you know, that doesn't rule that out. But that would be my read on it from just these couple of data points. All right, so in the US, California, Nevada, and Texas, semi factory construction continued in the fourth quarter and recently completed roof and wall enclosure of the main building. First truck builds are scheduled to start by the end of 2025 with ramp beginning in early 2026. Preparation is underway for cybercab lines at Gigafactory, Texas, with volume production planned in 2026. So nice to hear about the semi progress. Nice to hear about cybercab. I don't think anything new on the timelines on either of those items at the at the moment.
Still on us given its unique functionality, including power share stainless steel exterior enhanced durability and bio weapon defense mode, we deployed a fleet of cyber trucks equipped with Starlink in the Los Angeles area to help first responders and those impacted by the fires get access to electricity and Wi-Fi. We expect cyber trucks to be eligible for the IRA consumer tax credit, helping to improve affordability and access for even more customers. I think that's been talked about so not not anything new there.
In Asia Pacific in Q4, we achieved record deliveries in China as Model Y became the best selling vehicle for the full year. Tesla also became the fastest growing brand in South Korea and we launched vehicle sales in the Philippines. And in Europe in 2024 Model Y was the best selling vehicle of any type in Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, and the Netherlands. And we expect Model Y to have the second best selling vehicle to have been the second best selling vehicle of any type in Europe. Tesla was the most sold brand in Norway for the fourth year in a row with Model Y and Model 3 the best selling and second best selling cars of any type in 2024.
在亚太地区的第四季度,我们在中国创下了交付记录,Model Y 成为全年最畅销的车型。特斯拉还成为韩国增长最快的品牌,并在菲律宾启动了车辆销售。在欧洲,2024年,Model Y 是丹麦、挪威、瑞典、瑞士和荷兰各种类型中销量最好的车型。我们预计 Model Y 将成为欧洲第二畅销的车型。特斯拉连续四年成为挪威销量最多的品牌,其中 Model Y 和 Model 3 在2024年分别是各种类型中排名第一和第二的畅销车。
So obviously some individual successes there in some countries in Europe. I think overall it was probably a pretty tough year for Tesla in Europe relative to you know some of the other markets you can kind of see the market share here. Obviously a little bit of a dip there in Europe probably more significant than the small dip that we saw in the US. And then interestingly in the probably the most competitive electric vehicle market in China Tesla seemed to slightly grow share throughout the year in 2024.
Alright technology so AI software and hardware. We'll just take a quick look at the charts here first. You can see the miles driven continue to increase Tesla noting that they're now above 3 billion cumulative miles on FSD in January. So this does cut off a little bit before that at your end just under the 3 billion mark. But you can see some pretty significant progress of just maybe under a billion maybe three quarters of a billion miles there in the fourth quarter. I do want to share some of my thoughts on FSD and my new vehicle and stuff. So we'll talk about that a little bit after the earnings report stuff.
Alright in Q4 we completed the development or the deployment rather of Cortex of roughly 50,000 H100 training cluster at Gigafactory Texas. Cortex helped us enable version 13 of FSD supervised which boasts major improvements in safety and comfort thanks to 4.2 times increase in data, higher resolution video inputs, two times reduction in photon to control latency and redesign controller among other enhancements. FSD supervised can now start from park and perform unpark reverse and park capabilities in Q4 Tesla vehicles using autopilot technologies drove 5.94 million miles between accidents the best Q4 ever compared to the US average of 0.7 million miles.
Progress and Optimus hardware and software continued in Q4 including the latest generation hand robust locomotion and training on additional tasks ahead of planned pilot production in 2025. There have been a lot of rumors about this about Tesla maybe targeting like 600 or 600 parts parts for 600 bots per day I believe was what it was maybe it was per week. I'd have to go back and just look at that quick but who knows if those reports are accurate but what we know is accurate is that Tesla is definitely planning to have some sort of significant more you know so I'd call it significant scale of optimists out and about being produced hopefully being put to good work in Tesla's factories you know throughout the course of this year and next year so again I think this is happening sooner than people think this this year could definitely be sort of an eye opening moment for for people in that regard.
All right vehicle and other software the holiday release included Apple Watch support customers can pair their watch as a key to unlock and lock their vehicle without ever pressing a button just like the phone key with a premium connectivity subscription dash cam and sentry mode clips can be viewed and downloaded directly from the Tesla mobile app an animated three hour precipitation forecast can be viewed on the map and Sirius XM is now available for our full lineup with launch of the native app for model 3 model Y and cyber truck.
For battery powertrain and manufacturing we processed our first spodumene lithium containing concentrate through the front end of the lithium refinery only 18 months after groundbreaking much faster than any plant we know we know of outside of Asia. The intermediate material was on spec and we are on track to commission the plans in 2025. Our in-house 4680 cell production hit a rate exceeding two and a half thousand cyber trucks per week. I don't know what the last milestone update that Tesla gave us on that but we could go back and just kind of see how that 4680 ramp is progressing so nice to get a little bit of a data point on that and nice to hear more about the lithium refinery obviously we've seen you know the last year and a half Tesla working on that since groundbreaking.
Nice to see the first part of production of that coming out. I don't think that's something that's going to be a huge needle mover for us when Tesla started this. Lithium market was in a very very very very different position than it is right now. So at the time this was much more higher ROI project than it is currently with the market. However this is a fantastic thing for Tesla to have to de-risk and there still should be economic benefits once Tesla's able to get that up to scale at least I would presume but they will be a little bit lower in this current market. Now who knows how the lithium market will change over time? I would expect that it will change to some degree so if and when that does happen again Tesla would be much better positioned with their supply chain just from having you know a little bit of expertise in this area if and when that time comes.
All right so here is the I believe this is the safety report that Tesla just a different format of the safety report that Tesla generally publishes. This is the best way to look at it in my opinion. When you look at how Tesla has historically published it it's just been individual quarters you know you see the entire year and it looks like there's a lot of up and down stuff. My take as I've talked about before is that the volatility quarter to quarter has a lot to do with just general accident rates seasonally. You know you would presume that certainly in areas that are getting snow that those accident rates probably increase pretty significantly in the winter months. So I think the best way to has always been to look at this on a year-over-year basis which is exactly how Tesla is displaying it here and you can see just fantastic smooth progress here in terms of the sort of accident rates when autopilot or FSD is engaged relative to you know both Tesla vehicles that are not using autopilot and just the general average. We've talked many times about what this data is good for what it's not necessarily good for. One of the things that I think it's great for though is just comparing that progress over time because. this is you know this red line this is comparing against itself there's no you know worrying about like oh the US fleet on average is older vehicles and those older vehicles don't have as good a safety system so they're more likely to get inclusions or break something and then cause a collision. All that stuff is fair when you're comparing red line to gray line but red line versus itself that's all just the same data. So it shows that Tesla's autopilot system is you know undeniably getting better as time goes by almost twice as good as it was five years ago. So exciting to see that that continued you know very very nice progress in terms of safety. This matters you know this is saving lives most likely so it's a pretty big deal.
All right other highlights energy continued grow rapidly in 2024 as we expand capacity for both megapack and power wall to meet demand services and other a collection of businesses that support new vehicle sales achieved its third year in a row of profitability in 2024. Okay so energy services and other gross profit so this is a combination of both of those buckets. You can see the fourth quarter was a little bit less we'll take a closer look at that when we get into the excel review and then energy storage deployments you can see that quarter of a quarter so just a graph of those numbers that we've already talked about. The energy business achieved record deployments for both power wall and megapack at a combined 11 gigawatt hours resulting in record gross profit in the fourth quarter.
Material and other costs continue to come down in Q4 at the lay threat mega fact lay threat mega factory both power wall and megapack continue to be supply constrained as we open new markets and demand for energy storage products continues to grow. With construction completed Shanghai mega factory will begin ramping in the first quarter. Excuse me services and other in Q4 we added over 3000 supercharger stalls to the network and delivered at 1.4 terawatt hours of energy. We unveiled our version 4 cabinet which supports 400 volts to 1000 volt vehicle architectures charges up to 500 kilowatts for passenger vehicles and 1.2 megawatts for Tesla semi and has cutting edge power electronics with three times the power density. We launched battery heating at superchargers a feature that gets vehicles with with the mire and phosphate battery packs back on the road up to four times faster. Tesla actually did some pretty cool things with the battery technology and that. Some like counterintuitive stuff a little bit so pretty cool if you read into the technical details of that. Just wanted to highlight that. Anyway Tesla also continued to welcome more OEMs to the North American supercharger network including the first NACS native vehicles. Overall in 2024 we launched superchargers in three new countries added over 10,000 new supercharger stalls and grew the network by 19% year over year for a total of 65,000 plus superchargers worldwide. We delivered 5.2 terawatt hours offsetting 5.5 billion kilograms of direct CO2 emissions and 2.4 billion liters of gasoline. I know we all love those statistics. Usually we talk about those things with the impact reports but nice to see Tesla sharing some of that in the earnings report here as well.
All right so let's see we've got the outlook section here so for volume looks like the advancement with the advancements in vehicle autonomy and introduction of new products we expect the vehicle business to return to growth in 2025. The rate of growth will depend on a variety of factors including the rate of acceleration of our autonomy efforts production ramp at our factories and the broader macroeconomic environment.
We expect energy storage deployments to grow at least 50% year over year in 2025. So nice to see that. That's going to be a significant number again in gigawatt hours. Off the 30 31 I think it was this year so expecting 45 to 50 gigawatt hours it sounds like in 2025. So let me just make sure I'm reading this getting all of this as I read through this.
So vehicle business to return to growth. Tesla had mentioned maybe 20-25% before I believe no specific number here in terms of vehicle growth but at least some growth which will depend on a lot of different things. So not terribly surprising Tesla's usually pretty you know vague with guidance so that continues here. I wouldn't be shocked if we hear something a little bit more specific from Elon on the earnings call. Sometimes that happens but we'll see.
So fishing cash no surprise there kind of the same statement the Tesla has had over on that line for a long time. For profit while we continue to execute on innovations to reduce the cost of manufacturing and operations over time we expect our hardware related profits to be accompanied by an acceleration of AI software and fleet based profits.
And then for product plans for new vehicles including more affordable vehicles remain on track to start production in the first half of 2025. Fantastic. All right I don't know why the language change. I think that should have been stated very very early on in the report but it does look like those remain on track for sort of production in the first half of 2025. So fantastic. I take back all my previous comments. We should probably always just come down and read this product outlook section first note for next time.
These vehicles will utilize aspects of the next generation platform as well as aspects of our current platforms and will be produced on the same manufacturing lines as our current vehicle lineup. Nothing new there we've heard that before. This approach will result in achieving less cost reduction than previously expected but enables us to prudently grow our vehicle volumes in a more capex efficient manner during uncertain times. This should help us fully utilize our current expected maximum capacity of close to 3 million vehicles enabling more than 60 percent growth over 2024 production before investing in new manufacturing lines.
Our purpose built Robotaxi product cybercab will continue to pursue a revolutionary unbox manufacturing strategy and is scheduled for volume production starting in 2026. Okay so enabling more than 60 percent growth over 2024 production. That's fantastic. We've heard Tesla talk about that 3 million before. If we're talking about production capacity remember that production is not always going to match production capacity. Look no further than this year. Certainly Tesla's production capacity is higher than the roughly 1.8 million vehicles that they produced but you're going to have downside. We're going to have product refreshes like we saw in 2024 with Highland like we're seeing now in early 2025 with the Model Y. There's probably going to be some potentially some downtime associated with the start of the production in these other more affordable vehicles. So just remember when you see that 60 percent number don't just put that on the delivery line and call it good for your forecast. There's many other things to consider before sort of locking something like that in.
Alright so here we can see it looks like the cost is probably around like 34,000 or 800 or so is my guess. Again we'll calculate that a little bit later. But nice to see that continued decline in average cost of goods sold. I don't think anyone expected as big of a jump downward as we saw last quarter that was a very significant one. Probably one of the most significant that we've ever seen for Tesla in sort of like a quote unquote normal quarter. You know early on with the Model 3 you're going to see stark differences but in a more normal quarter this is that was a huge jump. Nice to see still a decline here even if not quite to the degree that we saw last quarter.
Alright cyber truck that's an interesting chart. We'll come back to that. We'll just get through the rest of the photos here. New Model Y. I'm sure everyone's seen seen that. We can talk a little bit more about that if people are interested. Looks like this is a comparison just in terms of new Model Y versus current Model Y. Obviously both are still available in the United States. I don't think that's the case for all markets outside of maybe inventory vehicles but you can see a recap here. If you've been following this on X you've probably seen all the differences between the old and the new but I think it's going to be a pretty major upgrade for the vehicle and again happy to talk more about my Model 3 here in a minute. Semi factory. Nice to see this coming along. Zengler's doing a great job of tracking that. If you guys are following him on X General Assembly for mega factory Shanghai. So I'm sure we're all excited about that. That's going to be interesting to see how quickly that ramps up given what we saw with a mega factory Shanghai back in the day.
Spodgermin day. That's funny. So this is the Tesla with the MT on Spodgermin day. That's a cool name for a day. Looks like they got cybercap out there too. All right here's Cortex the 50,000 GPU training cluster in Texas. Cool to see that. Very similar to what we've seen from the X AI. Colossus as well. So there's more for Cortex and then we get into our financial reports here and again we'll come back to the financials here in a second. Let's go back to that cyber truck chart. Just to see. I'm assuming this is just a recap of things that we've talked about in terms of some of the things that Tesla's done with the vehicle that they'll use in future vehicles. Which I think is a really good point. I think we're still in a period where we're not really sure exactly how successful the cyber truck is going to be.
A lot of that depends on how costs come down which we didn't see anything in here about cyber truck being profitable. Doesn't mean it wasn't but since Tess already talked about that last quarter there may not be a need to mention it. However I do think that was driven by that FSD recognition. That was a very big part of the profitability on that vehicle last quarter. So we'd like to see that reiterated in some way shape or form at some point but really I think the success overall the vehicle is going to depend on how quickly those costs are coming down and how Tesla can use that in terms of the average selling price in the vehicle. So we'll see how it goes. We'll see how it continues to develop.
I don't know that we need to go through all of this stuff. We can just see some of the major things. I'm sure we've talked about all of these things before 48 volt electric architecture 800 volt battery system ethernet communication architecture. All these things are going to reduce wiring make communications more efficient with the vehicle. Probably pretty marginal power savings but all things that are going to improve efficiency and improve part cost vehicle weight all those sort of things. By directional charging obviously talked about that. Ride and comfort. So a lot of this stuff outside of steer by wire rear wheel steering of course not available on other vehicles at the moment but Tesla again checking the box that these will be available in future vehicles. It's pretty cool. I wonder how rear wheel steering would work on like a model three or model y size vehicle if that would be any significant improvement in maneuverability might be kind of fun. But yeah hopefully you know sure we'll see these sort of things in cyber cab. I don't know if we should expect to see them in these you know certainly more affordable vehicles. Maybe some of them like the 48 volt architecture we'll love to see that. So Tesla can start to you know build that supply chain up and things like that but we'll have to see.
Alright so we are through the deck. We'll hop through the financials and then we can go through just some more general thoughts here. I do want to just check the stock price here quick. I'm sure it's probably still oh I guess not. What happened? Interesting. I'm very surprised that that's the case. Again the financials here don't look quite strong. Don't look very strong relative to expectations. I think a lot of that's driven by that Bitcoin mark to market. So interesting. I mean I'm glad to see that. Like gonna refresh again just to make sure. Maybe it's because of the you know more affordable vehicles. Maybe I don't know maybe Elon tweeted something. If he did let me know in the super chat so I can see that but interesting. Maybe it's the case of everyone like me not seeing the outlook section for the more affordable vehicles. Tesla reiterating that happening in the first half of this year. I do think that's you know throughout this entire report. As I talked about FSD you know we didn't expect to learn a whole lot about FSD in the shareholder letter obviously. So I think that's one of the most important things and then in terms of just how the business looks this year. Those more affordable vehicles are now that we have the refresh model why. Those are probably the biggest question marks. Probably the biggest opportunity for excitement with the stock as we look at the rest of this year. Could be people picking up on that 60% growth number. Again that's production capacity. That needs to be level set against both actual production then and then also deliveries. So those are you know very different numbers but certainly 60% growth and production capacity even setting aside that context is still a very exciting proposition. And again some fundamental progress here it's nice to see the average cost of goods sold continue to come down. Maybe some concern that I don't know last quarter was for some reason a one-time spike in that that line item spiked downward in that line item. So maybe people are excited to see that consistency and continue to climb there. But yeah that's that's a pretty surprising reaction to me but I'll take it.
Alright so I'm just going to just quickly check the chat here and see if there's something else that happened here that I may have missed. And then we'll hop over to excel here in a second. For those super chats that I need to get to I appreciate those I'll try to get to those once we once we're done with looking at some of the financials here. People are saying it happened when I said I'd take it back. That's funny. I doubt that's the case but I appreciate the thought. That's funny. All right cool. Interesting. Well let's look at excel. As I say I recorded this is obviously the most exciting part of the episode. Watching me put numbers in a spreadsheet. I told myself I wasn't going to make that joke again this quarter but it's just just right there. All right so automotive sales again the analyst expectation was $21.2 billion. I think we ended up like 19.8. I'm just going to go through and fill these out and then we'll talk a little bit more about them as we go so just bear with me here for a minute. And then again I've got a few other things of time permitting if not we'll do it after the earnings call just to remind her that the link for that is in the description. We'll listen to that together as well. That's coming up in about 50 minutes from now.
Alright so total automotive revenue was yeah 19.8. So 19. My microphone is also slightly in the way here so typing might be a bit slow. All right 19. 7. 9. 8. So you can see analyst expectations were about 7% higher. This is a decline year over year of about 8% from the 21.5 billion last year. Even though we do have higher regulatory credits. So you know a lot of softness and average selling price as Tesla talked a little bit about in the report. We'll calculate that number here in a second.
Energy generation that was 306.1. So definitely an interesting line here. You can see just a small improvement from Q2 where we had just over 3 billion as well. This is about you know 45 million dollars or so more even though we did have 1.6 gigawatt hours additional energy storage here. I have to do the math on what the you know average selling price would be here. But I think these lines in general probably the best way to look at them is sort of a rolling six month average because you have deferred revenue. You have projects being started and then recognized later on. So it's not quite as straightforward. Maybe is what we see with the automotive line all the time. So whether we're looking at deployments whether we're looking at revenue whether we're looking at profit. I think rolling six month is probably the best way to look at the energy lines. Nevertheless another strong revenue number there for energy and then services and other is 2848. So up 31 percent year over year on that line. I didn't mention it for energy but that was up 113 percent year over year. Let's get that regulatory credit number in there as well. So that was 692 million. We already talked about that but we'll see how that flows through down here when we get into cost.
So for that. All right so total automotive cost of revenues was 16.5 10. Energy costs 2289. Um services and other costs. 2729. All right so there we can see and that total gross profit line that matches great Okay now we can see here. Like we said a little bit soft in some of these numbers. Um this is definitely the softest 13.6 percent automotive gross margin X credits.
This is one of the lines that I you know I always say is one of the most important. Again I think this was one of the reasons for the strong reaction of the Q3 earnings report was that really strong surprise on that gross margin X credit line for automotive. Uh at 17 percent that was up significantly from a declining trend that we had seen for the last couple of quarters. Uh but now you know much much softer line here in the fourth quarter even though Tesla did have higher delivery volume uh by about you know 30 30 2000 vehicles or so and that generally helps with costs uh but of course you know looks like Tesla on the average selling price line probably faced a bit of a hit there pretty significant hit so um you also combine that with lower energy gross margins even though Tesla had quite about higher uh energy deployments and then services and other I'm guessing a lot of that maybe we'll get more detail in the 10q but generally a lot of the profit here is driven from the used car business so not terribly surprising to see some softness in the automotive gross margin line also being reflected on the services and other line as um you know when there's pricing pressure on the new new car uh business that's probably also apparent in the used car vehicle businesses or the used car vehicle the used vehicle business as well um at any rate 16.3 total gross margin obviously uh 240 basis points below what analyst consensus expectations were again doesn't mean anything horrible just what the expectations were from a group of analysts following the company um still if given the choice obviously would prefer to have the numbers above those expectations than below um but looks like you know there's at least some uh some things in here that the market's reacting positively to despite following short on some of those analyst expectations.
Alright rnd sgna let's take a look at those so rnd was 1276 so I think that's probably an all time high for rnd um could unhide these columns and look but my guess is that's probably an all time high certainly at least uh a high over the last year or so not anything crazy but maybe you know 100 million dollars 120 million dollars higher than what we had seen in the last few quarters sgna let's see that was 1313 so also a little bit higher there but not too crazy versus previous quarters tessell did say that some of the rnd spend related to ai so you know not surprising that that's um an increased area of importance for tessell that's continued to be the case whether we're talking rnd or capex um I would guess that if you had visibility into percentage of those buckets that was ai related I would guess that that percentage has pretty significantly increased over the last couple of years so if you take out ai stuff I'm sure those rnd buckets are probably going down but as I've always said no problem with tessell spending on rnd um I think tessell's proven to be a very great allocator of capital over the years um I expect that to continue to be the case all right so restructuring and other there is a seven uh million dollar cost in here or gain let's see I think that's yeah I think that's a cost yeah so uh seven million dollar cost in here maybe just a continuation of some of the restructuring costs that we'd seen in previous quarters um they did not put the bitcoin well let's see maybe that's just a line that I consolidate nope that's not hitting operating income so when we talked about that mark to mark it um I'm gonna have to see exactly where that falls I'm I'm thinking it falls somewhere below well yeah definitely falls below the operating uh income line so a little bit different than what we would have seen with the impairment before which fell above the operating margin line um which means that this is you know the 6.2 percent that we're seeing here this is more of a true number um not influenced by that bitcoin like it had previously been in in some quarters you know many quarters ago but for those of you that remember those periods uh so at any rate significantly below analyst expectations there operating income about 1.6 billion almost a billion dollars short of analyst expectations which that's why you know part of why I was surprised to see the the stock being up and I I still am wondering if I'm missing something but uh let me know I see some new super chat so I'll take a look at those um all right ebita let's take a look at that uh just an ebita 4922 so still a pretty good number there that's probably starts to include that bitcoin mark so maybe we're talking like 4.3 billion without that uh we'll just have to this this is a new accounting thing so I don't know it off the top of my head um and I think companies have some optionality it might just be like when they wanted to adopt it uh for when they're doing that stuff but uh someone will have to learn about as we as we look at these results um
Non-gap net income let's see that was 25 66 so a little bit higher but again maybe that includes the bitcoin stock base compensation I did highlight these just slightly differently and left a little comment here uh I noticed this as I was just looking at the numbers and we actually talked about it last quarter as some of my spreadsheet wasn't calculating correctly stock base compensation there's two different types of this now you'll you'll be able to see a stock base compensation number and then a stock base compensation number net tax the net tax stock base compensation number is the one that is being used in the gap earnings calculation so the difference in non-gap and gap earnings is just stock base compensation gap includes that non-gap factors it out previously this net tax bucket there was no difference in this between the the actual stock base compensation that's listed once tessa recognized in q4 last year that deferred tax recognition um for lack of a better word once that was recognized then I noticed that the next quarter they started having this net tax adjustment which actually has the effect of reducing the stock base compensation impact on gap earnings and this is a lot to follow but basically what I'm saying is that this is maybe like a hundred million dollars lower each quarter than it used to be uh that stock base compensation still exists it's just like a net of tax so uh you'll notice you can see a smaller difference between gap earnings per share and non-gap earnings per share used to be like 14 cents now it's more like 10 cents um after that happens so I don't know if that's really important to anyone but just if you're looking at any of that got confused I was temporarily confused by that so um just a clarifying point there anyway let's take a look at what that number is actually this quarter and I can just help explain it too um I'll switch back to the browser here for one second so you can see stock base compensation uh it's 579 million um and then we'll try to go forward here and then you can see the actual expense net of tax was only 249 million so an even more significant difference this quarter and that's going to again pull gap earnings per share and non-gap earnings per share closer so the 249 is what we want in terms of how the spread sheet is set up so put that there but just note that actual stock so we'll put that there but just note that actual stock base compensation is higher I don't really fully understand the accounting of that I haven't I kind of just figured this out so I need to spend more time on that but that should leave us with non-gap or gap net income of 2317 so I'm just going to check that number and we'll go back to excel here um yeah 2317 perfect so that's there let's flip back to excel um okay and then we've just got non-gap earnings per share so I think that was 0.73 so still some slight improvement quarter over quarter but again that's mostly driven by the the bitcoin thing so again you can you can see that the non-gap and gap earnings per share just because the stock base compensation net tax is so low certainly relative to both historical and to the actual stock base compensation not net of tax that that gap is narrowing over time or at least in these these few quarters
free cash flow was uh 2 0 3 1 so Tesla mentioned that 2 billion there we talked about I didn't have the analyst consensus on that this time um okay so I would guess that all these sort of net lines that are included below the operating margin line I think these all probably have like 600 million dollars extra essentially um just because you know you're looking at lower total gross profit you're looking at lower operating income and then somehow we get to this line and all of a sudden e-bittos up non-gap net income slightly up gap net income slightly up so that's definitely where the that 600 million dollars of bitcoin mark up is happening and I believe since Tesla seems to now be adopting that accounting method I think that that will continue just every quarter now there will be that marked market for whatever bitcoin is at I don't know if that goes off like the last price at the end of the quarter or if it's some sort of average we can look more closely at that before next quarter but um that will continue to influence these bottom line numbers
uh which again will just make them even not that they're not important they are important but again some of the other stuff is more informative than just looking at the bottom number without any of the context um unfortunately in this case the context I think makes the numbers uh significantly worse for the quarter but you know it's it's still better than if they hadn't made the bitcoin investment it does help them uh obviously with bitcoin being at all time high that is real money real cash that Tesla can use but obviously it's something that's different from their their standard uh business all right so let's look at the we'll talk a little bit more about some of these numbers but let's just calculate this uh average selling price and average cost to get sold so I need auto revenue for leasing so that's 447 and then costs it's 242 and deliveries those 26962 all right so there we get our average cost to get sold of 34 700 so right around where we had speculated based off that chart um and then average selling price yeah you can see a pretty big drop there um about two grand lower average selling price this quarter then last quarter um you know we've seen that continue to decline but that seems to be one of the bigger drops that we've seen in the fourth quarter
might also explain you know part of why Tesla wasn't able to get to the 510 000 or whatever that year-over-year mark requirement would have been um they clearly took significant pricing action here um and unfortunately still weren't quite able to get to the get to that level but I think you know it's it's also a period of time where a lot of people were aware that there's probably a new model y coming uh obviously that's Tesla's biggest volume vehicle so um it's tough to be a little bit too critical on that or I guess it would be maybe unwise to be too critical of that during during a period of time like that where you know you've got probably the most significant Osborne effect happening until the actual product comes out which now Tesla's got to ramp that up and there's going to be uh that Osborne effect obviously more visible but um it's it's a factor that I wouldn't just completely write off or discount for the for the fourth quarter so anyway asp down nine percent year-over-year um average cost of goods sold down four percent year-over-year so Tesla's talked about you know this this progress on average cost of goods sold they're going to continue to make it but it's probably going to be a little bit slower now hopefully with these new more affordable products which seem to still be on track for the first half of this year which is great hopefully that can help with the average cost of goods sold here as those start to get to volume production not something I would expect to really hit us for the next few quarters but maybe as we get into the first part of next year the you know later parts of this year that'll start to be a factor
okay so I think we kind of talk through most of these numbers we probably don't need to spend a ton of time uh going through but you know as you can intuitively understand there's uh significantly lower automotive gross margin or automotive revenue because of this average selling price decline um so you had you know deliveries up two percent year-over-year I don't have the quarter of quarter but obviously you can kind of do the math on that seven or eight percent or whatever it is um so two percent increase in deliveries year-over-year but a nine percent decline in average selling price you know obviously that's netting out then at lower automotive sales year-over-year even though you do have the benefit of the slight increase in regulatory credit sales which is even more beneficial for the gross profit here even um even with that though still down about six percent with just the pressure on on pricing uh for the for the quarter so that's that's a big deal um that being said still nice to see the cost decline and hopefully something that I'll uh continue but really now we're on to the new Model Y hopefully that can help with some of the pricing pressure that Tesla experienced um it's it took a little bit for me with the new Model Y with the design changes I was kind of like on the fence initially but still confident this would be a significant up significant upgrade I think now that we're starting to see them more in stores seeing better non-potato camera views of the the actual vehicle uh it's it's growing on me which is kind of what I expected generally that that happens with a lot of Tesla designs you know I said that a lot about the Cybertruck early on definitely something you kind of need to see in person to really get a feel for and I think the older Model Y is now already starting to look a little bit dated um even just here and you know a week or two since the since the new Model Y has been out so no offense to anyone with the new Model Y still and obviously with the older Model Y still an amazing vehicle but um I do think that overall the design changes is likely to be positive um and I think as we get more used to seeing it'll probably grow in people as well um I think the feedback so far has been relatively relatively positive but uh just kind of my perception on it um automotive profit so you know nothing too much to talk about here I think these are you know pretty pretty direct consequences of what we had talked about with average selling price and cost um so no no huge shock on any of those lines regulatory credit's probably in line energy profit it's a little bit disappointing to see the margin decline there just because we did see it spike so much last quarter anything with maybe even better deliveries um in terms of gigawatt hours deployed this quarter maybe there was a possibility that could come in not like a 33 or 35 or something like that but back more towards this 25 margin which again I think the best way to look at this is sort of like a rolling six month so um it just helps reduce all a lot of the volatility that you're going to see from quarter to quarter which is I think inherent with just how this business model is set up services and other we talked about R&D, S&A we talked about so relatively high operating expenses um Tesla in general does a phenomenal job controlling those so not something that I'm worried about I think generally in Q4 those you know might increase a little bit too I'd probably have to go back and look at the historicals to get a sense of if that's really happening but wouldn't be terribly surprising especially the SGNA line so 6.2% operating margin um then we talked about these I think receiving the benefit of the Bitcoin market market um the rest I think we'll have to wait for the 10Q to see you know what's going on with um some other factors like was there any deferred revenue this quarter um for FSD or or whatever else all right I'm going to switch back to the browser I'm going to take a couple of quick questions here and then got to wrap up just to finish up the prep for the earnings call again we'll go through that together the link for that is down in the description here uh for those that want to participate uh one second
Okay let's see stock still hanging in there that's great 402 up three and a half percent so that's probably close to where we started the day out not far off uh so great I'll take it all right so I do see a number of super chats in here I'm just gonna try to get to those and I know someone had asked about like gallon and political stuff again let's do that after the earnings call uh because we are coming up on that here um all right I think I left left off on miles but um most interested in power and semi-topic so yep I think we're we're getting close on semi I know Tesla over the last quarter or so has started to roll it out to at least one new partner maybe a couple new partners for just sort of vehicle testing so great to see that um as I mentioned Zengler doing a great job of tracking the Tesla semi kind of like Joe Tagmire and others are doing at Gigatexas Zengler's doing that at uh Gig and Nevada so just keep an eye on how that's progressing but obviously quite a lot of progress in the last six months so nice to see that um and then yeah obviously in the energy business continues to do really well so I do think there's some risk with the energy business in terms of like IRA funding and stuff and how that's affecting energy gross margins so just something to keep in mind I don't know exactly how all of that um accounting wise is is working out for Tesla um but I do think that there are some some of those IRA battery credits that are even though these cells are from China I do I do still think there's at least some impact um some benefit the Tesla's getting from the IRA for energy right now so uh Citiburt tells what you've been up to yeah first principles group so that's that's the full time thing now um it's been it's been going great so um yeah uh feels like old times yeah it's it's always nice to be back it doesn't feel like a normal stream I haven't heard a fire engine yet there were a few I don't know if that came through but I've heard a few uh more than quarterly would be wonderful um no promises but if people can let me know I'm sure people want more frequency but yeah it is helpful to just have the feedback um Arash thank you appreciate that Patrick awesome thank you appreciate that uh Tesla pilot asking given the US's withdrawing from the Paris climate agreement do you think Tesla should sign on and support as other companies have uh I think it's very unlikely that Tesla would do that um based on you know Elon's current views on those types of things um that would I would find that pretty surprising now it also doesn't mean that Elon doesn't care about the environment or whatever like this it's it's more it's more a manner of how things are achieved um and I think Elon is you know generally not in favor of a heavy regulatory burden um you know he he wants clean energy to come because clean energy deserves to come not because it's forced from a regulatory perspective and I think you know what Elon has done with Tesla is been tremendous in terms of helping make that progress so I think that's kind of how how Elon approaches it everyone can have their own views on that I just I'm trying to you know put into words I think how Elon thinks about it and obviously I could be wrong but um that's you know that's my perception of it uh is Tesla solar dead it's certainly not looking great I mentioned a couple of quarters ago but we saw the uh you know the removal of the uh energy generation deployments line um yeah this used to have energy generation deployed as well and that got removed so obviously not a great sign um I think the hopefully you know I think we'd all have to see the solar roof someday be successful outside of that business I can't imagine that Tesla's probably gonna try to do too much with rooftop solar uh but you know maybe at some point if they keep the solar roof as sort of like an R&D type of situation maybe at some point they make a uh breakthrough on that maybe Optimus can help that um you know reach reach its intended vision in terms of like installation costs and things like that uh so I wouldn't say it's dead but obviously it's not looking extremely great at the moment
All right scott saying tessel tweeted were also expecting to launch rebel taxi services and parts of the u.s later this year and continue to work on launching fsd um okay so that was in the earnings report but maybe just I'm guessing this was a response to like what's going on after market um that could have been a factor in terms of you know that little bit of a reversal that we saw I guess pretty significant reversal that we saw uh Derek thank you mario thank you vb thank you frank thank you tessel weekly please uh weekly that's that's probably gonna be a stretch that's probably gonna be a stretch but um sunny thank you I'm hearing the feedback though uh tessel piled again there is only a potential Osborne effect because tessel doesn't advertise most potential car buyers know nothing about them um next model y um it I don't know it seems like ever I don't know I'm a little bit confused but um I do think it's a fair point that most carbyers probably don't know a whole lot about the model y in advance of the model y being launched I think that's fair but I also think that tesla buyers are of like all car buyers in general tesla buyers are probably more likely to be informed um on that type of thing even with lack of advertising uh just because I think it leans into like more tech you know observant demographics in terms of the tesla customer base which are probably a little bit more highly informed on technological innovations and upcoming products so um I think it's a good point but I do think that tesla over indexes in terms of people that would be informed if that makes sense uh turquat mom come turquat macam thank you sorry I could probably get that right uh dark omor frequent streams thank you lunaglings thank you for the tessel monthly fun yeah maybe that's what I should do maybe I should have some sort of funding thing that gets it back now I don't want to I don't want to hold people over the head like that um pretty please go back to tesla weekly tesla quarterly tesla quarter is what we're doing now I won't take that as a vote that way though all right so um
I do have to do a little bit more setup for the earnings call so probably a good place to wrap this up at um I do want to talk after the earnings call a little bit more we can talk politics I don't want to spend like a ton of time on that um but you can talk about that we can talk about mining vehicle obviously got the new model three um talk about FSD version 13 my experiences with that so I guess I'll leave that as you know I don't really do cliffhangers but just in the entrance interest of time we'll uh we'll leave that for after the earnings report but good to be back good to see everyone go at the market reaction is relatively positive so far uh from the earnings report and we'll see we'll see what they have to say on the earnings call that could completely change the trend or maybe accelerate it so we'll see you soon again the link for that is down in the description thank you