Default swaps on Big Tech quadrupled, and five canaries in the coal mine | Market Hang
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Weekly trading in credit default swaps on Big Tech debt went from under $2 billion in July to more than $9 billion in September, because protection is now cheaper than buying puts. Jen Saarbach opens on that, then the producer puts the same question to everyone: what is your canary in the coal mine? Amy Wu Silverman of RBC says the market has simply been lucky on correlation. Kevin Mahn of Hennion & Walsh watches the Strait of Hormuz and memory chips. Drew Pettit of Roundhill says the warning sign is the day investors decide stocks look cheap. Plus utilities as a backdoor AI trade, and Netflix before the print.
Featuring
Jen Saarbach, Co-host, Market Hang, and Co-founder, The Wall Street Skinny
Kristen Kelly, Co-host, Market Hang, and Co-founder, The Wall Street Skinny
Amy Wu Silverman, Head of Derivatives Strategy, RBC Capital Markets
Kevin Mahn, Chief Investment Officer, Hennion & Walsh
Drew Pettit, Chief Investment Strategist, Roundhill Investments
Timestamps
0:00 Welcome back to Market Hang
0:31 Risk assets get their mojo back
1:25 A Korean IPO prices near the top, then falls
1:51 Default swap trading on Big Tech quadrupled
2:13 Why protection got cheaper than puts
2:38 So what is your canary in the coal mine?
2:56 Waiting to see what Anthropic actually earns
4:33 A highly dispersed market, and why that is luck
5:19 Selling volatility until the music stops
5:39 Two canaries: The Strait of Hormuz, and memory
6:30 Why Micron decides what happens to Nvidia
6:58 The canary is the day trading goes macro again
8:04 Hedge funds do not trade baskets of 100 stocks anymore
9:21 When everyone says the market is cheap, worry
10:05 Finding a differentiated type of risk
10:47 What breaks the rotation that has been saving us?
11:16 The ten year at five and a half, and what six would do
12:04 A dollar spike in either direction
12:32 Is CoreWeave now in the Fed's calculus?
13:09 If the inflation is oil, what does a quarter point fix?
13:55 The dot plot everyone assumed had gone away
14:48 The bond equity hedge that stopped working
16:09 Rates vol is nervous and equity vol is not
17:01 No relationship lasts forever
17:27 Zero wiggle room on estimates
18:17 Is this IPO fatigue, or are these bad companies?
19:30 Private money coming off the sidelines
20:17 Why would Anthropic and OpenAI wait?
21:13 An unspoken seasonal rule from a real estate career
22:05 What all these IPOs are actually raising cash for
22:38 Bond people are bearish until someone nearly defaults
22:53 The market will have a tantrum if the big IPOs slip
24:21 Nobody is sitting on cash waiting for these two
25:04 Diversifying into utilities is still the AI trade
25:47 A surge protector plugged into itself
26:45 Anti data center sentiment heading into the midterms
27:10 Nobody makes money trading politics
28:18 When a town says no and its muni bonds blow out
28:38 These are not your father's utilities
30:06 The other side of the utilities trade
30:44 Hard assets, low obsolescence
31:20 Why rate sensitivity makes utilities a poor hedge
31:55 If the bottleneck is power, the answer is nuclear
33:23 We tried to leave the AI trade and walked back into it
34:21 Playing The 8:30's take on media, and disagreeing with it
35:39 Netflix before the print, and a thousand layoffs
36:38 Are they good at content, or good at charging you?
37:15 A sold out theater on a Monday night
38:41 People rewatch the good stuff
39:42 The number one movie on Netflix was about a squid
40:17 Thesis creep, and what it does to a growth stock
41:17 Is streaming the new gym membership?
42:20 Pricing an earnings move with no subscriber numbers
43:33 Does anyone watch anything for themselves?
44:19 Should a chief executive be calling for a wealth tax?
45:00 Your personal opinion drags your shareholders along
46:09 When CEO speak is really lobbying
47:25 The cult of personality moved from tech to finance
48:42 Chief executives counting their LinkedIn followers
49:38 A fare that went from $400 to $700
50:36 The K-shape, and why the Delta chief is probably right
51:41 If you own things, you feel less inflation
52:23 Fix the Wi-Fi before you fix the tax code
53:09 The number nobody watches: Gross margins
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