How Mark Zuckerberg, Palmer Luckey, Josh Kushner & Scott Wu Think | Jeremy Stern

Jeremy Stern is the editor-in-chief of Colossus, where he writes long-form profiles of leading entrepreneurs and investors. He goes behind the scenes of his reporting on Mark Zuckerberg, explaining how months of interviews revealed Zuckerberg’s fascination with Augustus, relentless competitive drive and commitment to building Meta for decades. Jeremy discusses why Meta’s distribution and infrastructure could give it an advantage in AI and why some founders seem incapable of walking away. He explains how a question about defense technology became his first profile, on Palmer Luckey, and why he brings the craft of fiction and poetry to writing about business. Jeremy also describes Scott Wu’s combination of mathematical genius, natural leadership and authenticity, and how Josh Kushner’s family history shaped his exploration of Thrive Capital and the American dream. The conversation closes with the story of Jeremy’s Russian professor, whose belief that people have an obligation to their gifts changed his life and helped shape how he sees the people he writes about. Show notes: https://www.davidsenra.com/episode/jeremy-stern Made possible by Ramp: https://ramp.com Deel: https://deel.com/senra AppLovin: https://applovin.com/senra David Senra X: https://x.com/davidsenra Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/davidsenra LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidsenra Facebook: https://www.linkedin.com/company/senrashow Threads: https://www.threads.com/@davidsenra Spotify: https://spti.fi/TVrr557 Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/4msoZtb Jeremy Stern Website: https://colossus.com/author/jeremy-stern X: https://x.com/colossusjeremy Chapters 00:00:00 Jeremy’s Zuckerberg profile 00:06:39 Why Zuckerberg identifies with Augustus 00:13:03 The competitive drive people still underestimate 00:18:49 Why Zuckerberg won’t walk away 00:21:11 How Palmer Luckey became Jeremy’s first profile 00:35:05 Bringing literary ambition to business writing 00:39:20 Why Scott Wu stood out among AI founders 00:48:29 Josh Kushner’s family history and the American dream 00:56:36 Asking Rick Rubin: What if I lose the magic? 01:01:44 The mentor who taught Jeremy to use his gifts

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