VCs Would Bet on Open-Source AI Over OpenAI and Anthropic | E2341
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Today’s show:
Anthropic and OpenAI released cheaper models on the same day with Claude Opus 5.5 and GPT-6, and these VCs would still bet on open source. Jason brings on Dave McClure of Practical Venture Capital, Jeff Clavier of Uncork Capital, and Jenny Fielding of Everywhere Ventures to discuss the argument for open-weight models over the frontier labs.
Learn why median seed valuations have more than tripled since 2017. Why does Dave say it's a buyer's market for secondaries right now? PLUS, does Meta's Muse leave any room for Instinct, and why are fintech and healthcare suddenly out of favor?
Guests:
Dave McClure on X: https://x.com/davemcclure?lang=en
Practical Venture Capital: https://practicalvc.com/
Jeff Clavier on X: https://x.com/jeff
Uncorked Capital: https://uncorkcapital.com/
Jenny Fiedling on X: https://x.com/jefielding
Everywhere Ventures: https://www.everywhere.vc/
Relevant Links:
Instinct reportedly seeking $1B at a $10B valuation (report via The Information) → https://cryptobriefing.com/ai-assistant-startup-instinct-targets-10b-valuation-in-new-funding-talks-report/
Meta's Muse, the agent the panel sees as Instinct's biggest threat, now on Mac → https://aiweekly.co/alerts/meta-ships-muse-for-mac-agent-now-acts-in-native-macos-apps
Trump calls Jensen Huang onstage at the All-In Summit → https://thenextweb.com/news/trump-phoned-jensen-huang-onstage-at-the-all-in-summit-to-call-ai-fear-a-hoax
AI-assisted intel error nearly triggered a US intercept of a Chinese ship (CNN via gCaptain) → https://gcaptain.com/ai-error-nearly-triggered-u-s-intercept-of-chinese-ship-cnn-reports/
Bernie Sanders' 50% AI sovereign wealth fund bill + Altman meeting (Fortune) → https://fortune.com/2026/06/18/bernie-sanders-ai-fund-bill-sam-altman-1000-payments/
Stanley Druckenmiller's AI-written WSJ op-ed (Axios) → https://axios.com/2026/08/26/stanley-druckenmiller-ai-writing-wsj-op-ed
Claude Opus 5.5 and GPT-6 Sol/Luna launch the same day with price cuts (SiliconANGLE) → https://siliconangle.com/2026/09/22/anthropic-releases-claude-opus-5-5-and-openai-counters-with-two-cheaper-gpt-6-models/
Zipline: LAUNCH's "miss," later backed through the syndicate → https://www.flyzipline.com/
Timestamps:
0:00 What seed rounds looked like then: Fitbit's $2M seed
2:38 Jenny's Techstars NYC years and the two-unicorn mug
7:14 All-In Summit: Trump calls Jensen Huang onstage. Staged or not?
8:19 P(doom) roundtable + Dave's AI sovereign wealth fund prediction
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12:58 The AI intel error that nearly triggered a US-China incident
17:07 "McClure's Law": a human with AI is the real risk
19:22 Odoo - The all-in-one business platform. Your first app is free! Get started today at https://Odoo.com/twist
21:00 Stripe + OpenRouter: an anti-fraud play, not a routing play?
22:30 Seed valuations: median $8M (2017) to $28M today
23:21 Instinct: $2.5B to a reported $10B in weeks
29:12 Rippling - Thanks to our partners at Rippling! Head to https://Rippling.ai/twist and get the only AI built to give you full visibility across your startup and take complex actions across your entire business.
43:24 Opus 5.5 vs. GPT-6 Sol: the same-day price war
46:14 Gun to your head: open-weight models or frontier labs?
50:23 Secondaries: the top 30 names vs. everyone else
51:53 Why fintech and healthcare are unloved (and Jason's Robinhood bet)
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