Did OpenAI Steal the Navier-Stokes Solution? | E2335
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Today’s show:
An Anthropic researcher quit this week, saying both leading labs are gambling with everyone's lives. His coworker chimed in and predicts there is a greater than 10% chance that AI will end humanity IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS. Jason and Lon take it to Yohei Nakajima of Untapped Capital, Ben Lerer of Lerer Hippeau, and Rebecca Lynn of Canvas Prime, who cannot decide whether it is the greatest PR strategy in history or some kind of mass psychosis.
Learn why Jason says founders should never hand a frontier lab their proprietary data, whether or not they're offered free credits. PLUS, who really solved Navier-Stokes, and what does the OpenAI–Buckmaster fight mean for anyone doing real work inside ChatGPT or Claude?
Guests:
Yohei Nakajima on X: https://x.com/yoheinakajima
Untapped Capital: https://untapped.vc/
Ben Lerer on X: https://x.com/BenjLerer
Lerer Hippeau: https://www.lererhippeau.com/
Rebecca Lynn on X: https://x.com/VCRebecca
Canvas Prime: https://www.canvas.vc/
Relevant Links:
Jacob Coxon quits Anthropic - "gambling with our lives" https://techcrunch.com/2026/09/09/gambling-with-our-lives-anthropic-researcher-quits-warns-against-self-improving-ai/
Evan Hubinger, Anthropic's Alignment Science lead, on X: 10% odds within a decade — https://x.com/EvanHub/status/2097497037956891126
Future of Life Institute — the 2015 Puerto Rico AI safety conference Jason asks Lon to pull up https://futureoflife.org/
Meta debuts Muse (Axios) —https://www.axios.com/2026/09/08/meta-debuts-muse-personal-ai-agent
Harmonic — https://harmonic.ai/
China blocks Meta's Manus acquisition (CNBC)https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/27/meta-manus-china-blocks-acquisition-ai-startup.html
OpenAI fought dirty— https://techcrunch.com/2026/09/08/openai-fought-dirty-on-career-making-math-problem-says-nyu-mathematician/
Savvy Wealth — https://www.wealthmanagement.com/ria-news/savvy-wealth-raises-100m-valuation-hits-600m
Augmodo — https://www.augmodo.com/
E2B — https://e2b.dev/
Daptic — https://www.daptic.com/
Timestamps:
0:00 Jacob Coxon quits Anthropic: "crunch time" and "endgame"
4:10 Evan Hubinger: 10% odds AI kills all humans in a decade
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14:16 Jobs, the wealth divide, and which industries get wiped out first
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20:26 Savvy Wealth's $100M round
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31:22 Meta ships Muse
32:13 Can Meta be trusted
34:46 Threads Metrics
48:44 Robinhood's free-share referral
50:33 NYU's Tristan Buckmaster accuses OpenAI of fighting dirty on Navier-Stokes
57:00 Jason: "It's a trap"
58:20 Harvey goes open-weight, Go.AI on-prem, Covenant Labs
1:11:39 High performing portfolio companies
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