The Trade Desk’s Woes & A New AI Donut?
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《Motley Fool隐藏宝石投资》播客节目开篇讨论了最新的七月就业报告,该报告显示,美国经济减少了2.3万个就业岗位,而此前预期是增加8.3万个。尽管如此,失业率降至4.1%,市场在盘前呈现上涨。主持人解读认为,这可能影响美联储考虑维持利率不变,因为疲软的就业数据可能会促使他们在加息问题上按兵不动,特别是在考虑到美联储抑制通胀和保护就业的双重使命。他们指出,这份报告既不“火热”也不“断崖式下跌”,表明经济表现平平,零售和休闲领域的疲软可能与世界杯后的时期有关。总体而言,这份就业报告似乎预示着美联储将继续按兵不动。
讨论随后转向财报季,其主题是“韧性”。许多公司,包括银行和航空公司,表现出人意料地强劲,标普500指数中有45家公司上调了全年业绩指引。自六月底以来,分析师对标普500指数每股收益的预期上升了3%。然而,一些市场反应被认为是“有趣”的;某些人工智能概念股尽管业绩超出预期,涨幅却不大;而人工智能领域之外的公司,即使业绩积极,股价有时也会大幅下跌。“颠覆性故事”仍然是一些人担忧的问题,例如优步等公司正面临未来竞争(如Waymo和人工智能创新)带来的生存挑战。
对彭博社关于OpenAI正在开发一款“曲棍球冰球大小、带有扬声器和一些移动部件的甜甜圈”型新AI硬件设备的报道,播客表达了强烈质疑。主持人对此大多不以为然,质疑在智能手机已经提供强大AI交互功能的情况下,是否需要一个专门的300美元设备。他们认为,任何新硬件必须提供比现有解决方案“好10倍”的体验才能吸引消费者采用,而这个“甜甜圈”似乎并未做到这一点。该设备被比作亚马逊失败的Fire Phone,强调了OpenAI在硬件方面的声誉缺失,与苹果的溢价定价策略形成对比。
“价值还是价值陷阱”环节分析了几只股票:
* **The Trade Desk:** 尽管远期市盈率为6.6倍,但其股价大幅下跌,公司报告增长放缓,并预计营收将下降。首席执行官将问题归咎于宏观经济状况被视为“借口”,尤其是在竞争对手表现出更强劲增长的情况下。目前被认为是“价值陷阱”。
* **Shift4:** 一家支付领域的公司,财报发布后股价下跌20%,以7.4倍远期市盈率交易。一位主持人因其盈利性增长而视其为“价值股”,而另一位则持怀疑态度,认为支付领域已商品化。
* **Micron (美光):** 一家内存市场参与者,远期市盈率为6倍,较峰值下跌26%。一位主持人因该业务的商品化性质和历史上的繁荣-萧条周期而称其为“价值陷阱”。另一位则视其为“价值股”,认为当前由AI驱动的内存高需求将持续数年。
* **Salesforce:** 被认定为“价值陷阱”。担忧包括其从“按席位”到“按任务”的AI工具业务模式转变风险、资产负债表上高额的商誉以及长期的业务问题。
* **Adobe:** 以10倍市盈率交易,较峰值下跌62%。一位主持人因增长/利润率担忧、领导层问题以及优先采用免费增值模式(这暗示着来自更优AI工具的竞争加剧)而视其为“价值陷阱”。另一位,作为投资者,则视其为“价值股”,押注Adobe的适应能力和现有用户忠诚度。
* **General Motors (通用汽车):** 以6倍远期市盈率交易。两位主持人都从长期投资角度将其视为“价值陷阱”,理由是汽车行业的激烈竞争、低利润率和复杂的供应链。
播客还提到了Alphabet的人才流失,特别是Jeff Dean和John Jumper。尽管一些人对此表示担忧,但另一些人则认为,这是高技能人才寻求新机遇的自然流动,而且Alphabet可能仍会继续参与(例如,谷歌持有Dean新公司的股份,并且该公司在GCP上运行)。
最后,“关注股票”环节介绍了:
* **ServiceNow (NOW):** 因其在众多企业中嵌入式企业软件解决方案、通过AI代理实现颠覆/增强的潜力以及超过20%的增长率而受到赞扬。
* **Symbotic (SYM):** 一家仓储自动化公司,尽管近期业绩指引令人失望,但仍具吸引力,在AI驱动的仓储机器人领域具有显著增长潜力。
The Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing podcast began by discussing the latest July jobs report, which showed the U.S. economy losing 23,000 jobs against an estimate of 83,000 gained. Despite this, the unemployment rate fell to 4.1%, and the market saw pre-market gains. The hosts interpreted this as potentially influencing the Federal Reserve to consider holding interest rates, as weak employment might prompt inaction on rate hikes, especially given the Fed's dual mandate of fighting inflation and protecting employment. They noted that the report, while not "red-hot" or "falling-off-a-cliff," suggested a middling economy, with weaknesses in retail and leisure possibly linked to the post-World Cup period. Overall, the jobs report seemed to lean towards continued Fed inaction.
The discussion then shifted to earnings season, where the overarching theme was "resilience." Many companies, including banks and airlines, showed surprisingly strong performance, with 45 S&P 500 companies raising full-year guidance. Analyst estimates for S&P 500 earnings per share were up 3% since late June. However, some market reactions were noted as "interesting"; certain AI-trade stocks saw muted gains despite beating estimates, while companies outside the AI sector sometimes experienced significant stock drops even with positive results. The "disruption story" remained a concern for some, with companies like Uber facing existential questions about future competition (e.g., Waymo and AI innovation).
A significant point of skepticism arose around Bloomberg's report that OpenAI is developing a "hockey puck sized donut with a speaker and some moving components" as a new AI hardware device. The hosts were largely unimpressed, questioning the need for a dedicated $300 device when smartphones already provide robust AI interaction. They argued that any new hardware must offer a "10x better" experience than existing solutions to compel consumer adoption, which this "donut" did not appear to do. The device was compared to Amazon's failed Fire Phone, highlighting OpenAI's lack of a hardware reputation compared to Apple's premium pricing strategy.
The segment "Value or Value Trap" analyzed several stocks:
* **The Trade Desk:** Despite a forward P/E of 6.6, shares were down significantly, and the company reported decelerating growth and a projected revenue decline. The CEO's blame on macro conditions was viewed as "excuses," especially as competitors showed stronger growth. It was deemed a "value trap" for now.
* **Shift4:** A payment space company, its shares fell 20% post-earnings, trading at 7.4 times forward earnings. One host saw it as a "value" due to profitable growth, while another was skeptical, viewing the payment space as commoditized.
* **Micron:** A memory market player with a forward P/E of 6, down 26% from its peak. One host called it a "value trap" due to the commoditized nature of the business and historical boom-bust cycles. Another viewed it as a "value," believing the current high demand for memory driven by AI would sustain for several years.
* **Salesforce:** Identified as a "value trap." Concerns included its risky shift from a "per seat" to a "per task" business model with AI tooling, high goodwill on the balance sheet, and long-term business questions.
* **Adobe:** Trading at 10 times earnings and down 62% from its peak. One host saw it as a "value trap" due to growth/margin concerns, leadership questions, and a freemium model prioritization suggesting increased competition from superior AI tools. Another, having invested, saw it as a "value," betting on Adobe's ability to adapt and existing user loyalty.
* **General Motors:** Trading at six times forward earnings. Both hosts viewed it as a "value trap" from a long-term investment perspective, citing the cutthroat nature of the auto industry, low margins, and complex supply chains.
The podcast also touched on talent departures from Alphabet, notably Jeff Dean and John Jumper. While some expressed concern, others viewed it as natural movement for highly skilled individuals to pursue new ventures, potentially with Alphabet's continued involvement (e.g., Google having a stake in Dean's new company and it running on GCP).
Finally, "Stocks on Radar" featured:
* **ServiceNow (NOW):** Praised for its embedded enterprise software solutions across many businesses, its potential for disruption/enhancement via AI agents, and its over 20% growth rate.
* **Symbotic (SYM):** A warehouse automation company, intriguing despite recent guidance disappointment, with potential for significant growth in the AI-driven warehouse robotics space.
摘要
As earnings season winds to a close, the team discusses what we learned this quarter and why a new jobs report may actually be good for the market. Plus, we discuss The Trade Desk’s bad week, Google’s brain drain, and the stocks on our radar.
Travis Hoium, Lou Whiteman, and Jon Quast discuss:
- Jobs Report
- Earnings Season Recap
- The Trade Desk
- Value or Trap?
- Google’s Brain Drain
- Stocks on our Radar
Companies discussed: Alphabet (GOOG), Apple (AAPL), The Trade Desk (TTD), Shift4 (FOUR), Micron (MU), Salesforce (CRM), Adobe (ADBE), GM (GM), Symbotic (SYM), ServiceNow (NOW), .
Host: Travis Hoium
Guests: Lou Whiteman, Jon Quast
Engineer: Dan Boyd
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