John Gu – Crypto Market Making & The Cold Start Problem (S7E30)

My guest today is John Gu, founder and CEO of Caladan, one of the most active market makers in crypto and a firm that has provided liquidity to more than 200 token launches. John's path runs through MIT, AlphaSimplex, Citadel's principal strategies group, and Tower Research before landing in Singapore at the dawn of the ICO era — where what started as a trade on the kimchi premium became the foundation for one of the most active liquidity providers in digital assets. The thesis of our conversation is what I'll call the cold start problem. In traditional markets, every newly listed stock arrives with scaffolding already in place — a designated market maker, a reference price, a universe of comparables, and decades of regulatory infrastructure. Crypto inverts that. A new token can launch with no orderbook, no comparables, and no clear demand curve. Someone has to quote a two-sided market into that void, and how they do it shapes whether the asset becomes a real, tradable thing — or a graveyard of wide spreads and stranded liquidity. John and I dig into how you bootstrap liquidity from zero, how the quoting playbook evolves as a market matures, the economics of token market making contracts, and how that same infrastructure now bridges into structured products and treasury solutions for token foundations. Please enjoy my conversation with John Gu. 00:00:00 Episode and guest introduction 00:01:37 The cold start problem in crypto markets 00:03:07 John's career journey and the origin of Caladan 00:12:21 Naming Caladan 00:13:12 Providing liquidity for token launches 00:18:31 Impact of pre-market trading and evolving quoting strategies 00:22:00 Influence of listing venues 00:24:01 Business models and compensation structures in market making 00:31:02 Managing inventory risk 00:33:29 Aggregate portfolio construction and risk management 00:36:00 Spoofing and adverse selection in crypto 00:39:54 Impact of FTX collapse on market making infrastructure 00:44:47 Participating in DeFi liquidity pools 00:47:29 Arbitrage opportunities between CeFi and DeFi 00:49:26 Advice for new token projects on initial listings 00:52:04 Reflexivity between token price and project success 00:54:21 Transitioning to OTC structured products and bespoke derivatives 00:57:19 Treasury management for token foundations 00:59:49 Misconceptions about market makers in crypto 01:03:19 The future of crypto markets and TradFi integration 01:06:11 Personal obsessions: Puppies and AI 01:09:00 Closing remarks and thanks

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