Uranus in Gemini and the United States
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嘿，我叫克里斯·布伦南，欢迎收听《占星播客》。在这一集中，我将讨论天王星与双子座以及美国的关系，特别是占星家们关于天王星进入双子座并伴随美国历史上发生重大战争的预测。好的，现在是2025年7月6日，星期一，不对，是星期天，我在科罗拉多州丹佛市录制这期节目，时间是晚上8:28，正值日落前夕。而今晚，也就是2025年7月7日的技术上时间，天王星将进入双子座，就在几个小时后。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
Hey, my name is Chris Brennan, and you're listening to the Astrology Podcast. In this episode, I'm going to talk about Uranus and Gemini and the United States, and specifically the history of astrologers making predictions about Uranus and Gemini coinciding with major wars in the history of the country over the past few centuries. All right, so right now, I'm recording this today on what is it? It's Monday. No, it's Sunday, July 6, 2025, starting at 8.28 pm in Denver, Colorado, just at sunset before the sun goes down, and it's the eve of Uranus moving into Gemini, which is going to happen later tonight, technically on the 7th of July 2025, but just in a few hours here.
最近我一直在思考这个问题，星象学家们也早已预见到了这一点。我多年来都在期待这一时刻，而现在我们终于到达了。这是一件大事，因为星象学家们长期以来注意到一个规律：每隔84年，天王星进入双子座并在那里停留大约七年期间，美国就会卷入一场重大战争。事实上，在美国历史上，这种情况已经发生过三次。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
And I've been thinking about this a lot lately, astrologers have been anticipating it. I've been anticipating it for many years, and now we're finally here. So this is a big deal because astrologers for quite some time now have noticed this correlation where every 84 years, when Uranus moves into the sign of Gemini, where it spends for about seven years, the US is involved in a major war, and in fact there's been three major instances of this so far in US history.
这是Madeline从honeycomb.co为我解码的一个图示，帮助展示这一点。在美国历史上，与天王星在双子座相关的第一次时期，是从1774年到1782年，这几乎恰好与美国独立战争同时期，当时美国宣布独立并与英国打了一场独立战争。然后84年后，天王星走过黄道十二宫的其他星座，再次回到双子座——美国成立时的位置——也就是从1858年到1866年，这次又恰与南北战争同时期。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
So here's a diagram that Madeline decodes from honeycomb.co made for me to help demonstrate this. So the first time in US history that's relevant when Uranus was in Gemini was from 1774 until 1782, and this pretty well coincided with the Revolutionary War when America declared its independence and fought a war of independence from Great Britain. Then 84 years later, when Uranus went through all the other signs of the zodiac and the event that came back around to Gemini, where it was when the country was founded, it was in Gemini from 1858 until 1866, which very nicely coincided with the Civil War.
84年后，天王星又走完了所有星座，最终完成了一个完整周期，从1941年到1949年。这段时间恰好与美国参与第二次世界大战以及战争结束相吻合。再过84年，也就是现在，天王星将于2025年7月7日进入双子座，并将停留在双子座直到2033年。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
Then 84 years later, Uranus goes through all the signs and it comes back eventually in a full cycle from 1941 until 1949, which coincided with the US's entry into World War II and the culmination of that war. Then finally 84 years later brings us to now, which is Uranus is going into Gemini tonight and tomorrow July 7th, 2025, and it's going to stay in Gemini until 2033.
这种模式和重复性现象自我成为占星师以来一直为人所知。我自1999年开始研究占星术，到现在已经超过25年了。我知道至少从那时起，占星师们就一直在讨论和了解这种重复性现象。多年来，我们在播客上，尤其是在预测的节目中多次谈论过这个话题。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
So that pattern and that repetition has been known about for as long as I've been in a astrologer, I've been studying astrology since 1999, which is over 25 years now, and I know astrologers have been talking about this and have known about this repetition since at least then, and I've done, we've talked about it many, many times on the podcast over the years, especially on the forecast episodes.
我和我的朋友尼克·迪格和贝斯一起专门制作了两个关于研究历史上这一模式的节目。第一个是2013年在占星播客中的第11集，然后在2022年，我们更详细地探讨了这一模式和历史上这一重复循环的现象。我最近一直在研究的是，了解并总结这些信息，以便为人们提供关于这循环历史预测的背景信息。其中一个我关注的问题是，占星家们已经了解这些循环有多久了，他们又是从什么时候开始基于这个重复的循环对美国的未来进行预测的？
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
But I've also done two episodes entirely dedicated to studying that pattern in history with my friend Nick Digg and Best. The first one was episode 11 of the astrology podcast back in 2013, and then in 2022, we did an even more detailed treatment of looking at that pattern and that repeating cycle in history. So one of the things that I've been researching lately in order to take stock of this and give some perspective to people in terms of the history of predictions surrounding this cycle is the question of how long have astrologers been aware of these repetitions, and how long have they been making predictions about it, about the future of the US based on this recurring cycle?
这个问题的答案实际上非常有趣，因为它可以追溯到首次和第二次周期。在美国历史上有两位非常著名的占星师，我今天想要谈论他们。他们曾在天王星返回双子座之前或期间，做出了一些预测，并进行了讨论。就在美国即将迎来第一次内战之际，其中一位名叫卢克·布劳顿的占星师首次注意到天王星的变化，并基于此对内战做出了一些预测。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
And the answer to that question is actually really interesting because it turns out that it goes back to the first repetition and the second repetition, and there's two astrologers, very notable astrologers in US history that I want to talk about today, who made predictions and discussed the return of Uranus to Gemini before or as it was happening, right as the US was on the cusp of first the Civil War, which is the first time an astrologer named Luke Broughton first seems to have noticed and documented and made some predictions about the Civil War based on that.
84年后，美国有一位名叫伊万杰琳·亚当斯的著名占星师，她或许是那个时代最有名的占星师。她根据美国的天王星回归，在二战爆发前大约十年就做出了相关预测。因此，我想谈谈这两个预测及其起源。我还想结合我们为美国制作的星盘，对这些预测进行一些分析，解释其意义，当然最后也会稍微谈一下当今的相关背景。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
And then again 84 years later there was an astrologer named Evangeline Adams who was a famous astrologer in America, perhaps the most famous astrologer of her day, and she made a prediction about World War II starting about a decade before it happened based on the Uranus return of the United States, which was impending at that point. So I want to talk about those two and the origins of those predictions and I also want to ground it a little bit in the chart that we look at for the United States and like why that is and then of course talk a little bit about the context towards the end where we find ourselves today.
好的，那么我们从哪里开始呢？我们就从美国的兄弟图或者说出生图开始吧，因为我认为这是理解为什么美国经常呈现这种特定现象的起点。一般来说，我们以《独立宣言》的签署日来庆祝美国的生日，这个日子传统上定为1776年7月4日。每年，美国都会在这一天举行庆祝活动。
关于美国的正确星盘是什么，特别是上升星座的争议有很多，因为我们没有1776年7月4日《独立宣言》签署的确切时间记录。很多人对哪一个是正确的上升星座存在不同看法。然而，今天我要谈论并使用的星盘是一个上升星座为射手座的版本。我们主要关注这张星盘中火星和天王星的位置，具体的出生时间其实不太重要。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
All right so where do we start? Let's start with the sibling chart of the United States or the birth chart of the United States because I think this is where you have to start in order to understand why this has been the particular manifestation that that it often is for the United States. So the United States in the United States we commonly celebrate the birth of the United States based on the signing of the Declaration of Independence, which is traditionally celebrated on July 4th 1776 and then every year the US holds birthday celebrations on that day. There are different like arguments about what the correct chart is for the United States and whether there's other dates that could be considered or used or especially different rising signs because there's a lot of debate over the correct rising sign for the United States because we don't have an exact record of when the signing of the Declaration of Independence happened on July 4th 1776 but one of the most commonly used charts that I'll talk about and I'll use for the purpose of this is the sibling chart that has Sagittarius rising and my purpose isn't really to get into debates about the time but primarily we're going to focus on just the location of Mars and Uranus in this chart today and the birth time itself is kind of somewhat immaterial.
好，这就是美国的兄弟星盘，即美国1776年7月4日的出生星盘。我们可以看到，天王星当时位于双子座，这是形成某种模式的原因之一，因为这意味着每隔84年，天王星就会回到它在双子座的起始位置。但这一位置不仅仅是天王星位于双子座而已，还有一个额外的重要性，使得它独具特色，那就是天王星与火星在双子座的21度同在一处。虽然两者在度数上相隔较远，但我仍然会称它们在同一星座内共处，因此它们的能量在一种重要的方式中相互融合。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
All right so here is the sibling chart of the United States or the birth chart of the United States set for July 4th 1776. So one of the things that we can see is that Uranus was in Gemini in the birth chart of the United States so that's one of the reasons that it sets up that pattern because that means every 84 years Uranus is going to come back to its needle position when it goes through Gemini but there's something additionally important about that placement that makes it unique besides just Uranus being in Gemini and it's actually the fact that Uranus is conjunct the planet Mars which is also in Gemini at 21 degrees of that sign and although they're kind of far away from each other by degree they're still what I would call co-present in that sign together and therefore their energies are being blended together in a significant way.
天王星一般被认为是一个与战争、冲突和分裂有关的行星，这种观念可以追溯到古代。而天王星则是一个较新的发现，它是在几百年前发现的，正值美国建国之际。在过去的几个世纪中，星象学家们一直观察到天王星的定位以及它在星盘中的运行与革命性的事件、突然渴望自由与解放、意外变化，以及有时会导致破坏和动荡、令人惊讶或古怪的事情有关。因此，当火星和天王星在星盘中结合时，这个组合可能相当不稳定。在过去一年中，我在一些预测节目中谈到了这一点，比如上个月就出现了火星与天王星的四分相，这与以色列和美国对伊朗的突袭和意外军事行动如爆炸事件等相吻合。去年夏天，在金牛座的火星与天王星合相期间，也发生了一些爆炸性事件。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
So Uranus marzes typically the planet of like war and conflict and division traditionally and going back to ancient times whereas Uranus is relatively newly discovered planet that was discovered a few centuries ago around the time when the United States was founded and as a result of that astrologers over the past couple of centuries have repeatedly seen Uranus and its placement in charts as well as its transits be associated with revolutionary things with sudden urges for freedom and liberation with unexpected changes and sometimes disruptive changes and upsets and things that are like surprising or eccentric or other things like that. So when you put Mars and Uranus together in a chart it can be kind of a volatile combination and this is something I've been talking about on some of the forecast episodes over the past year we just had a Mars Uranus square last month that coincided with a lot of explosions and military actions like an unexpected military action or a surprise attack against Iran from on the part of Israel and the United States and then last summer there were also some explosive things that occurred under a Mars Uranus conjunction in Taurus.
关于火星与天王星相合的一个特点是，它为美国的出生星图带来了具有爆炸性和分裂性的能量。一方面，这种火星与天王星的结合可以是具有建设性和实用性的，表现为大胆、敢于冒险和创新，特别是在新技术、交通和通信方法等方面，这种结合可以带来积极的变化。然而，另一方面，这种结合也可能非常不稳定，因为它可能意味着冲突、意外的干扰和其他与火星有关的事务，通常与战争和冲突有关。而且，在天王星的影响下，这些因素可能被放大，偶尔会变得更加具有破坏性。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
So one of the things about that Mars Uranus conjunction then is it puts this kind of explosive divisive energy right in the birth chart of the United States and on the one hand you know there can be things about the Mars Uranus conjunction that are kind of can be constructive and useful it can be like bold and like risk taking and innovative and some of those things especially innovative when it comes to like new technologies or transportation or communication methods and other things like that are part of that conjunction and there can be some good things that come from it but on the flip side it can also be a very volatile conjunction as well because it can indicate yeah conflict it can indicate unexpected disruptions it can indicate other things of a Martian nature which tend to pertain to war and conflict but it kind of gets amplified and magnified with Uranus and in some ways made more destructive occasionally.
所以，关于火星和天王星合相的一件有趣的事情是，每年美国庆祝其生日时，这个传统在各国中独具一格。我认为这种传统可以追溯到美国首次庆生的时候。当时，全美各地的美国人都会燃放烟花，而这完美地展示了火星和天王星合相在美国星盘中的重要作用。就像美国人庆祝自己的独立，通过爆炸和绚丽夺目的烟花来庆祝国家的诞生。不久前的7月4日，我像往常一样观看了一场烟花表演。我站在丹佛市的高处，环顾四周，看到成百上千个社区在燃放自己的烟花，同时还有其他的烟花秀。这让我很感兴趣，我查阅了一下，看看其他国家是否也这样做，还是只有美国这样。结果显示，美国在每年7月4日燃放烟花和爆竹的规模上确实是独一无二的。我认为这与那种存在于美国星盘中的爆炸性组合有很大关系。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
So one of the interesting things about that Mars Uranus conjunction though is that every year when the U.S celebrates its birthday it's unique I think among the countries because in the U.S we have this tradition going back I think to the very first birthday celebration of the U.S where Americans all across the country start setting off fireworks and that's actually a really perfect demonstration of the Mars Uranus conjunction and the pivotal role that it plays in the birth chart which is just like Americans celebrate their independence and they celebrate the birth of their country by like blowing things up and setting off these beautiful and dazzling explosions and stuff but the other night I was watching fireworks on the 4th of July like I do every year and I was looking around from a really high place in my city in Denver and just seeing that like so many hundreds and hundreds of different neighborhoods everywhere I could see were all setting off their own fireworks and then there were other fireworks displays and so I got interested and I looked it up to see if this is like common in other countries or if the U.S. was unique for it and what was coming back was that the U.S. really was unique in terms of the sheer magnitude of the number of like fireworks and explosions that are set off each year on the 4th of July and I think that has a lot to do with that explosive combination that's built into the birth chart of the United States.
好的，天王星每84年会在黄道十二宫中运行一个完整周期，然后返回到某事物命盘上最初的位置。在美国独立战争期间，天王星第一次进入双子座，这为美国奠定了基本的框架，标志着美国从另一个国家独立，并以这种方式开创了创新的舞台。大约84年后，天王星再次回到双子座，这段时间是1858年至1866年。有趣的是，在这段时间里，有一位名叫卢克·布劳顿的占星师，他在1900年代成为美国最著名和最具影响力的占星师之一。所以我来查一下他的生平，给大家提供更多关于他的信息。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
All right so Uranus takes 84 years to do a complete cycle through all of the signs of the zodiac and come back to where it started in the birth chart of something so Uranus was first in Gemini during the Revolutionary War and that sets up the basic framework for the country and the United States and it's declaring itself independent from another country and sort of setting the stage innovating in that way but then what happens is about 84 years later Uranus came back and moved into Gemini again from 1858 to 1866 and what's interesting is during that time frame there was an astrologer named Luke Broughton and he was in the 1900s he became one of the most like the leading astrologer in America and one of the most famous astrologers in America and one of the most influential astrologers of his time frame so let me pull up his dates just to give you more information about him.
卢克·布劳顿生活在1828年至1899年，但有趣的是，他在1861年至1869年间出版过一本星相期刊。也就是说，他在内战的前后都在出版这本星相期刊。美国内战本身从1861年4月持续到1865年4月。有趣的是，如果你阅读卢克·布劳顿的期刊，从1861年第一期开始，他就在谈论当时战争的威胁笼罩着这个国家，并且似乎局势正在走向战争。然而，在他的一期期刊中特别有一篇文章，是1861年2月的第二卷第二期，他详细讨论了天王星穿过双子座时对美国历史的影响。据我所知，卢克·布劳顿是第一个注意到天王星与双子座以及美国重大冲突之间联系的占星家。他部分基于天王星穿过双子座的行运，预测了一场即将到来的战争，这场战争最终演变成了内战。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
Luke Broughton lived from 1828 until 1899 and what's interesting about him is that he published an astrological periodical from 1861 until 1869 so that he was basically like publishing this astrological journal or periodical in the decade when the Civil War like the build-up to the Civil War and then eventually during the Civil War itself. So the Civil War itself happened from April of 1861 until April of 1865 and what's interesting is if you read Luke Broughton's journal he's like talking about this right from the very first issue of this journal starting in 1861 that the threat of war is looming over the country and that it seems like it's heading in that direction but in one of the journals in particular it's volume two number two from February of 1861 he has this whole discussion about the planet Uranus and its transits through the sign of Gemini in US history and Luke Broughton as far as I can tell was actually the first astrologer to note this correlation between Uranus and Gemini and major conflicts breaking out in the United States and he partially based some of his predictions about an upcoming war which turned into the Civil War based on that transit of Uranus through Gemini
在这篇文章中，他提到的一件事情是，他能够看到天王星在双子座的运行与1700年代的独立战争有多么紧密的关系。因此，他回顾大约84年前的历史，发现这种关联非常接近。基于这种过往的关联，他意识到在不久的将来可能会再次发生类似情况，这意味着可能即将发生另一场重大战争。更有趣的是，他在文章中进一步追溯了美国历史，指出在1690年代，天王星同样在双子座运行。他在文章中专门谈到那个时期发生的一些事情，并认为这些事情在他那个时代也很重要。他指出，发生过一场被称为"威廉王战争"的冲突，这与1690年代天王星经过双子座的时期非常接近。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
because one of the things that he talks about in this article and that he could see at the time was how closely the transit of Uranus and Gemini coincided with the Revolutionary War back in the 1700s so looking back about 84 years earlier he could see how close that correlation was and so based on that past correlation he realized that that was what was coming up again in the very near future and that it implied that another major war could be about to take place but what's further interesting about his article is that he actually took it back further in terms of US history and he noted that there was a period in the 1690s when Uranus was transiting Gemini and he has a section into his article talking about different things that were happening at that time that he thought were relevant in his time as well so he pointed out that there was like a conflict that was taking place which is called nowadays it's called King William's War and how this coincided pretty closely with Uranus and Gemini in the 1690s.
他还注意到了一些其他事情，比如那段时间制定的法律，以及这些法律如何影响美国及其后来的发展。他奇怪地发现，当时正值塞勒姆女巫审判时期，出现了一些反对占星术和反对算命或者巫术的法律，他自己在那个时期也感受到了一些反对占星术的趋势。这是一个我有点担心的关联，因为我对这种关联没有深入研究，希望这样的事情不会再次发生。这是他在那个时间框架内注意到的另一件事情。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
He also noted a few other things he noted some things about the laws that were set up during that time frame and how that would end up influencing the later country in terms of the United States and what it would eventually become weirdly he also noticed some anti astrology and anti fortune telling or like witchcraft type laws that were coming up back then with the Salem witch trials and how he was experiencing some anti astrology. Stuff during his time frame so that's one correlation I'm actually a little nervous about because I don't know if that's you know I haven't looked at that correlation very much and I hope that's not recurrence but that was one other thing that I noticed that he picked up on in terms of that time frame.
让我快速展示一下他的日记，因为这个东西在网上可以找到，你可以去看扫描版，了解他是如何描述这件事的。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
So let me show really quickly his journal because this is something that's out there in the in online that you can go and read a scan of in order to see how he he talks about it.
好的，这里是他首次发表这篇分析的期刊，它刊登在《布罗登的每月星球读者和占星杂志》第二卷第二期上，于1861年2月1日在费城出版。这时间大约是在内战爆发前两个月。在这篇文章中，他讨论了他称之为“赫歇尔”的行星。因为早在天王星发现后的第一个世纪，有关该如何命名它存在一些争议，一些占星家和天文学家称它为赫歇尔。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
All right so here's the journal where he first published this analysis which is again it's from broadens monthly planet reader and astrological journal volume 2 number to published in Philadelphia February 1st 1861 so this is what like two months before the civil war breaks out and he has this whole article about what he calls the planet hersial because back in the early like the first century of after the discovery of Uranus there was some debates about what to call it and some of the astrologers and astronomers called it hersial.
这篇文章在期刊的最上方，讨论了行星 Hersial 处于双子座时的情况，内容非常有趣。一开始，他提到在《行星读者》的1月刊中，我们指出双子座与美国有很大的关系。当Hersial行星在1775年进入双子座时，美国革命爆发了。当Hersial在双子座运行到9度时，美国宣布了独立。随后在1782年，Hersial离开双子座进入巨蟹座时，英国政府提出了和平的倡议，双方国家都停止了敌对行动。
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So the article right at the top of the journal is the planet hersial in the sign Gemini and it's just so fascinating at the very beginning of it he says in the January number of the planet reader we stated that the sign Gemini rules the United States and that when the planet hersial entered that sign in 1775 the American revolution broke out and when hersial got nine degrees in Gemini the Americans declared their independence and when hersial got out of that sign and entered cancer in 1782 overtures for peace were made by the British government which were accepted in both nations desisted from hostile measures.
在1859年，当赫舍尔再次进入双子座时，我们开始展示当前的困难。这些困难是在哈珀斯费里事件爆发后开始的。当赫舍尔到达双子座九度时，南卡罗来纳州宣布了独立。在我们上次发布之后，又有另外三个南方州跟随了相同的步伐，宣布独立。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
And we went on to show that when hersial entered Gemini again in 1859 that the present difficulties commenced by the Harper's Fairy after breaking out and when hersial got to nine degrees of that sign South Carolina declared her independence and since our last issue there have been other three of the southern states followed at the same followed the same chorus.
他说，如占星家所言，当行星赫西尔（Hersial）在个人星盘中的特定位置（比如第十宫或者太阳的位置）运行时，会对该人产生显著的变化和不稳定性。同样，当它穿越某个代表特定国家或地区的星座时，也会引发该国或地区的显著变化和不稳定性。对于读者和占星学的学习者来说，回顾赫西尔星在1775年之前进入双子座的时间（即1691年），看看当时是否对这个国家或时代产生了显著影响，或许是颇有趣味的。为了保持公正和不含糊，让我们看看历史是如何说的。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
So he continues he says as it is said by astrologers that when the planet hersial transits over any particular place in a nativity such as over the 10th house or over the sun's place it produces remarkable changes and unsettledness for that person and likewise when it's traveling through any sign which rules any particular nation or country it produces very remarkable changes and unsettled niche unsettledness in that nation or country it perhaps will not be uninteresting to the reader into the student of astrology to refer back to the time when hersial entered Gemini previous to 1775 which was in the year 1691 to see whether it produced any remarkable effects in this country or at that time or not and to avoid any unfairness or equivocation we will let history speak for itself.
然后，他从一本历史文献中引用了一段很长的文字，讲述了特许状授予马萨诸塞的过程，并将普利茅斯、缅因和新斯科舍加入其领地。接着他继续对这一段内容进行详细分析，指出了甚至在美国建国之前，天王星上一次经过双子座时的一些相似之处。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
And then he does this long quote from like a history text about the charter being granted to Massachusetts which added Plymouth, Maine and Nova Scotia to the territory and he goes on into this long thing which points out essentially some similarities between even the previous Uranus and Gemini transit before the founding of the United States.
所以你知道他的研究部分揭示出，这种模式可以追溯到更早以前的某种基础星盘，甚至早于美国的存在，这种模式一直延续至今。尽管我们可以特别在美国作为一个国家诞生图中看到这种模式，比如火星与天王星在双子座约八度的合相，这似乎是一个特别敏感的点，尤其是当天王星回到那个度数时，但其实在整个天王星穿过这个星座的过程中，这种影响都存在。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
So you know his research partially shows and you can take it back that this goes back to some earlier base birth chart even prior to the United States that the pattern holds up in so that it was something from very early on in the history that's still being carried forward although we can see it especially when it comes to like the current incarnation of the United States as a country in the birth chart itself with that Mars Uranus conjunction with Uranus around eight degrees of Gemini which seems to be a particularly sensitive point especially when Uranus gets back to that degree but really for the entirety of the transit through that sign.
令我感到惊讶的一件事是，他认为整个星象过境过程都非常重要，特别是精确度数的过境。早在内战边缘，这位占星家就已建立了美国参与重大战争的概念。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
So one of the things I was surprised by is just how he's really identifying the really the entire transit through the sign is being significant and especially the transit to the exact degree but already the concept of the United States being involved in major wars was established by this astrologer right on the cusp of the civil war.
他在写这篇文章的时候，一些南方州已经脱离联盟，而距离战争全面爆发（1861年4月）只有两个月左右。所以，我不确定在他之前是否有其他人，但就我所知，他似乎是第一个提出这种观察的占星家。这一发现时机非常惊人，因为这恰好是在南北战争的边缘，而这场战争后来成为美国历史上最重要的战争之一。我觉得这很重要，因为不仅仅是在天王星回归时美国卷入了一场战争，而是在这个期间，美国历史上三场最重要的战争——独立战争、南北战争和二战——都发生了。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
So he's writing when some of the southern states had already seceded and just two months before the war would really fully be going in April of 1861 so you know I don't know if there's other people but before him but as far as I know he seems to be the first astrologer that comes up with this observation and it comes up with it right on the cusp of the civil war which is just incredible because that would become one of the most significant wars in US history and I think that's important because it's not just that the US is involved in a war or any sort of war when the Uranus return happens but it's literally the three most important wars in US history all took place during this transit which is like the revolutionary war the civil war and world war two.
有时我会听到有人试图反驳这种关联，说美国参与过其他战争，但没有一场达到这种规模和重要性。如果你问大多数历史学家，美国历史上最重要的三场战争基本上就是这三场。虽然有人可能会质疑，比如说“一战呢？”，但你要知道，美国在“一战”中介入得比较晚，“一战”已经进行好几年，美国才参战，而美国介入后，“一战”大约一年就结束了。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
So very occasionally like I'll hear somebody try to dismiss this correlation and say well you know the US was involved in other wars but not to this magnitude and not in terms of this significance where if you ask any historian for the most part what are the three most significant wars in US history it really comes down to these three in particular and while somebody might question like what about world war one you know the US got involved in world war one pretty late like the world war one had been going on for a few years by the time the US even enters it and then world war one ends up wrapping up like a year just about a year after the US gets involved.
所以，尽管那场战争很重要，但与二战相比，它的影响并没有那么大。从美国历史整体来看，以及对美国这个国家的影响而言，美国独立战争、南北战争和第二次世界大战无疑是美国历史上最重要的三场冲突。因此，我觉得令人惊讶的是，这位占星家在美国即将进入二战时发现了这种模式，并基于此对即将发生的战争做出了一些预测，并宣称一场战争即将发生。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
So while that was a significant war it wasn't as significant as world war two and in terms of the overall US history and in terms of the impact that it had on the United States as a country these three wars of the revolutionary war the civil war and world war two are just indisputably the most important conflicts in US history so it's incredible to me to see this astrologer discovering this pattern as the US was on the cusp of world war two and then basing some of his predictions about that war that was about to happen on that and and saying and predicting that a war was about to take place.
所以，这实际上是我能找到的最早例子，展示了占星家们如何通过预测和观察这种模式来设立一个先例。然后根据历史模式开始预测，当天王星下次位于双子座时会发生一场重大战争，这一模式可以追溯到内战的开始。内战发生后，快进到20世纪30年代初期，那时有一位非常著名的占星家名叫伊万杰琳·亚当斯。我和我的朋友克里斯托弗·伦斯特罗姆一起做过一整集关于伊万杰琳·亚当斯的节目，我们的研究部分基于另一位占星家凯伦·克里斯蒂诺的工作，她写了多本关于伊万杰琳·亚当斯的书，探讨了她在20世纪初是多么受欢迎和有影响力的占星家。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
So that's actually the earliest example I can find in that sets up the precedent of astrologers predicting and noticing this pattern and then based on the historical pattern starting to predict that a major war will occur the next time that Uranus is in Gemini dating back to the beginning of the civil war. All right so the civil war happens and then you fast forward to the 1930s the early 1930s and there was a very famous astrologer in the early 20th century named Evangeline Adams and I've done an entire episode on Evangeline Adams with my friend Christopher Rennstrom and we were basing some of our research on the work of another astrologer named Karen Cristino who's written multiple books about Evangeline Adams and just what a popular and influential astrologer she was in the early 20th century.
伊万杰琳·亚当斯（Evangeline Adams）于1861年至1932年间生活，而1932年尤其重要，因为在她去世的前一年，也就是1931年，她出版了一本书，书中预测美国将卷入一场从1942年左右开始的大规模战争，这一预测基于美国的天王星回归。这本书的名字是《人人都能学的占星术》，我最近在研究这本书的时候重读了它的序言，里面有她的这个预测。多年没有再读这段文字，当我再次看到时，我被她在书的引言中做出这个大胆预测的方式震惊了，所以我想分享这段内容，因为她的做法实在令人钦佩，你也能从中感受到我所说的那种震撼。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
So Evangeline Adams lived from 1861 to 1932 and 1932 is important because the year before she died she published a book in the year 1931 that predicted that the US would be involved in a major war starting around 1942 based on the Uranus return of the United States and the book that she wrote this in it was actually in the introduction to her 1931 book Astrology for everyone and I was researching this recently and I read the introduction it been years since I read it and I was blown away by what a like baller move it was when she made this prediction in the introduction to this book because the way that she does it is just absolutely stunning so I'm going to read part of that because it's so impressive and you can kind of get a sense for what I'm talking about.
在书的开头，她写了一篇介绍，非常类似于一本关于占星学的入门书，所以她在介绍中花了大部分时间来讨论一些非常基础的内容。她说，这本书试图用简单而不技术化的语言来说明占星学是什么以及它是如何运作的。然后，她介绍了黄道十二宫及其名称。接着，她有一大段内容是讲述不同星座对应的出生日期范围。例如，她说如果你出生在5月22日至6月21日之间，你就是双子座的人。双子座是黄道上的第三个星座，其象征是双胞胎，双子座的人通常聪明、多才多艺、灵活且善变，有时是才疏学浅者，常常是调情者。双子座的人实际上是卡斯特和波吕克斯（Castor和Pollux）这对双胞胎。她就这样一直介绍这些基本概念。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
So at the beginning of the book she has an introduction and this is very much like a general introduction to astrology book so she spends the majority of the introduction like talking about some pretty basic things so she says this book attempts to tell in simple untechnical language what astrology is and how it works and then she introduces like the zodiac signs and their names and then eventually she has this whole long section where she's talking about the birth date date ranges basically for the different sunsines so for example she says if you're born between May 22nd and June 21st you are a Gemini person Gemini is the third sign of the zodiac and is symbolized by the twins its natives are often brilliant versatile flexible and changeable sometimes dilatants often flirts Gemini people are in truth twins castor and polyx and she just goes on and on and introducing all these basic concepts.
最终，她翻到了一些后面的页面，因为这本书的介绍部分至少有十几页，甚至可能是两倍于此。然后，她开始讲述行星如何在黄道十二宫科学的指导下运动，并将它们比作天体钟表的指针。接着，她谈到行星，并引入了“过境”这个概念。值得注意的是，当她逐渐接近这本基础占星书介绍部分的结尾时，她写得非常好，因为这是在她人生的最后阶段完成的。她是一位终生从事占星学的占星家和教师，同时也是一位优秀的大众传播者，她充分利用了广播媒体，开设了关于占星的广播节目，擅长用简单的语言传达复杂的概念。这一点尤其在这本书的介绍部分给人留下深刻印象。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
So eventually she gets to some of the later pages because the introduction is at least like a dozen pages long maybe maybe twice that and then she starts talking about how the planets move through the science of the zodiac and how you could conceptualize them like the hands of a celestial clock and then she's talking about the planets and she starts talking about the concept of like transits and then what's interesting is that when she starts getting towards the end of this introduction. to this like general book on astrology this basic book on astrology and she writes it really well because she's writing this towards the very end of her life she's a lifelong astrologer and teacher of astrology but also a good like public communicator because she was really somebody who took advantage of like radio and had like a radio show about astrology and was very good at communicating complex concepts in really simple language that's one of the things it really strikes you about especially the introduction to this book.
所以，她讲的是行星在黄道十二宫中的运动，然后她在这一章中说，我不需要描述每个行星对人类的影响，因为这些描述在接下来的几页中已经给出了。但我不想在这个时候离开这个话题，而不给你一个普遍公认的例子，我希望这个例子能澄清整个问题。这个例子就是美国的星盘。她说，当然，国家和人一样也有星盘。比如，法国是在某个日期诞生的，意大利是在另一个日期，德国又是在另外一个日期，而我们自己的国家，每个美国人都知道，是在1776年7月4日诞生的。任何一个占星家要为任何人或事物绘制星盘，只需要了解他们的生日信息。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
So she's talking about the movement of the planets through the signs and then she says in this chapter I do not need to describe each of the planets and its effect on mankind these descriptions are given in the next several pages but I do I think she means chapters but I do not wish to leave this subject at this point without giving you one universally known example which will I hope clarify the whole problem that example is the horoscope of the United States she says certainly nations have horoscopes just as people do France was born on such and such a date Italy on another Germany on still another and our own country as every American knows on the 4th of July 1776 all in a astrologer needs to know to draw a horoscope of anybody or anything is this information about their birthday.
当然，最好她也知道准确的地点和时间，就美国而言，在这方面也可以达到科学的精确程度。一般而言，美国的历史开始于费城的那个时刻，即凌晨3:03，当时《独立宣言》的签署者们做出了宣告脱离英国独立的决定。因此，埃文洁琳·亚当斯使用所谓的“双子座上升图”来代表美国，与“西布利图”几乎是相反的时间，因为西布利图是在白天，通常是下午或晚间，而“双子座上升图”则比较特别，是凌晨三点。关于美国的诞生图，不同的占星师有不同的看法，这就是一些争论的由来。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
It is better of course if she also knows the place and the hour and in these matters too it's possible to achieve scientific accuracy so far as the United States is concerned for its generally accepted and properly so I believe that the life of the American nation dates from that moment in Philadelphia at 303 in the morning when the signers of the Declaration of Independence reached a positive decision to declare to the world their independence of England. So Evangeline Adams uses the what's called the the Gemini Rising Chart for the United States which is almost the exact opposite time as the Sibley Chart because the Sibley Chart is during the day like later in the the afternoon or evening whereas the Gemini Rising Chart is curious because it's at like three o'clock in the morning so this is where some of the debates about like the birth chart of the United States come in and different astrologers have different opinions.
卢克·布劳顿（Luke Broughton）似乎使用了赛布利（Sibley）图，但他一再提到双子座是美国的主要特征之一。我应该确认这一点，因为他确实强调了双子座的作用，并认为它对美国非常重要。伊万杰琳·亚当斯（Evangeline Adams）也认为双子座重要，不仅因为火星与天王星的合相，还因为她认为在美国的出生图中，双子座正在上升。她进一步解释美国的星盘时提到，虽然美国诞生时太阳在巨蟹座，但作为黄道十二宫中的第三个星座，双子座在美国出生的那一刻正在上升，因此对决定我们的命运最具影响力。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
But Luke Broughton I think he used the Sibley Chart but he repeatedly said that Gemini was the means one of the main signatures for the United States so I should I should confirm that because he was certainly emphasizing the sign of Gemini and could see that it was super important for the United States. Evangeline Adams thought it was important not just because of the Mars Uranus conjunction but also because she thought that Gemini was rising in the birth chart of the US so she continues about the US chart the Sun was in cancer with the United States was born but Gemini the third sign of the zodiac was rising as we astrologers say at that moment of birth and is therefore most influential in determining our destiny.
双子座本身是一个非常神经质、不安、灵活且高度理性的星座。根据占星学，美国在其强烈影响下诞生，这就足以解释美国性格和历史中很多重要特点。但这还不是全部。双子座的主宰行星是水星，作为众神的使者，它掌管着思维、想象力和神经系统。这种天体影响的结合，解释了为什么我们是世界上最伟大的旅行者、推销员和广告商，并且顺便说一句，也解释了为什么我们容易患上所谓的“美国神经病”。在这个年轻的国家诞生时，几颗重要且有影响力的行星处于上升位置，包括火星、金星和木星。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
Gemini is itself a very nervous restless versatile and highly mental sign the fact that the United States was born so strongly under its influence would be enough according to astrology to account for much for much which is significant in American character and history but that is not all the ruling planet of the sign Gemini is Mercury the messenger of the gods which governs the mind the imagination and the nerves this combination of celestial influences explains why we are the world's greatest travelers greatest advertisers greatest salesmen and why incidentally we're so subject to the American disease of nerves quote unquote several important and influential planets were in the ascendant at the time this child among nations was born among them Mars Venus and Jupiter.
火星不仅是战争之神，也是赋予人们雄心、主动性、勇气和攻击性的星球。因此，不难看出这个无畏的星球如何在我们的国民身上留下了印记。金星虽然普遍被认为是爱情女神，但在占星术中，她还承担着许多其他重要的职责。她掌管音乐家、画家、演员和艺术家，而毫无疑问，在鼓励和奖励这些职业方面，没有哪个现代国家比美国做得更多。她还掌管化妆品制造商、服装制造商以及装饰品经销商，而在这些领域，美国也名列前茅。木星是这个天体三巨头中最强大、最具美国特色的。
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Mars is not only the god of war but it is the planet which gives ambition initiative courage and aggressiveness it is not difficult therefore to see how this intrepid planet has placed its mark on our countrymen Venus although popularly known as the goddess of love performs many other gracious duties in the astrological scheme of things she governs musicians painters actors and artists in general and surely no modern nation has done more than America to encourage and reward these professions she also governs makers of toilet accessories clothing manufacturers and dealers in articles of adornment all of them activities in which America attained front front rank Jupiter the third of this heavenly trio is the most powerful in the most American.
因为它象征着荣誉、荣耀、财富，以及美国成功最看重的东西，所以她在详细描述这些行星。在双子座上升的星盘中，使用象限分宫法，双子座和巨蟹座的行星基本上都落在第一宫。现在，她终于到了介绍的最后一段，你听听这个：天王星，这颗抛弃旧习俗和政府形式的行星，打破束缚，经常导致分离，也在我们国家诞生时上升。这使得1776年7月4日成为我们摆脱君主制枷锁并在新大陆建立新政府形式的命运时刻。
▶ 英文原文 ⏱
because it gives honor glory wealth and the most sought after thing in America's success so she's delineating all these planets because in the Gemini rising chart the using quadrant houses Gemini and the cancer planets all fall in like the first house basically okay so now finally she gets to the very last paragraph of the introduction and listen to this it says Uranus the planet which discards worn out customs and forms of government which breaks bonds and often causes astrangements was also rising when our country was born making July 4th 1776 the predestined moment for us to shake off the yoke of monarchy and to set up in the new world a new form of government.
天王星对我们后来的国家生活也产生了显著影响，因为它是掌管发明的行星，尤其是在电气发明领域，美国的创造力在这些领域为世界设定了新的速度。然而，天王星的影响并不全是好的。正如我之前提到的，它也是煽动革命和叛乱的星球。当天王星完成它在12个星座中的旅程并返回到双子座时（这个周期需要84年），我们可以合理地预期可能会出现某种麻烦，因为双子座是美国的主导星座。
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Uranus has also had a market effect on our later national life for it is the planet which rules in inventions in general and electrical inventions in particular fields in which American genius has set a new pace for the world but not all of Uranus's influence is good it is as I have already said the heavenly planet which stirs revolutions and rebellion and it is a fair assumption that whenever it completes its journey through the 12 signs and returns to the sign Gemini ruling the United States a cycle which takes 84 years we may expect trouble of some sort.
天王星在1776年位于双子座，84年后的1860年我们反抗了英格兰。天王星再次进入双子座时期，我们在南北战争中对峙。1942年，天王星又一次进入双子座，但我已经说够了，这足以展示行星如何影响人们的性格和命运，以及它们在星座中的永恒运动。然后，就像一个震撼时刻，她结束了这段介绍。她是在1931年写下这些内容的，并预测了第二次世界大战何时发生，以及美国何时加入二战，而这些大约在她出版书后的10到11年内成为现实。她在出版这本书的第二年，也就是1932年去世了。
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Uranus was in Gemini in 1776 and we rebelled against England exactly 84 years later in 1860 Uranus was in Gemini again and we had a war between North the North and the South in 1942 Uranus again enters the sign Gemini but I've said enough at this point to show you how the planets affect both character and destiny and they're never ending progression through the signs and then it's a mic drop moment she ends the introduction and that's it she was writing this in 1931 and she predicted when World War II would happen when the US would enter into World War II which then happened like 10 or 11 years after she published the book and then she died the year after she published this she died in 1932.
她的预言，当时她甚至没有活到能亲眼见证其成真，但事实确实如此。1941年12月，日本轰炸了珍珠港，美国随后立即参与了第二次世界大战，特别是在1942年左右。因此，她在引言中写下的内容真的是令人赞叹，我对此印象深刻。这段预言不仅是一个很酷的占星史例子，还展示了占星师们运用这种周期来研究历史和进行预言有多长时间了。她的这个预言实在是太厉害了，而且她在写作中使用破折号也挺有趣的。上次我们经历类似情况是在二战期间，这设立了一个无法忽视的先例。到20世纪末和21世纪初时，我对这个周期的重复已经有所了解，而我相信大多数研究世界性占星学或者美国的本命盘的占星师也都会知道这种重复。
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So her predicts she didn't even live to see if her prediction would come true but it very much did because basically the the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor in December of 1941 and then immediately the US gets involved in World War II shortly after that especially in 1942 so that is a baller move that she actually wrote that in the introduction and I'm so impressed and so yeah it's a really cool like piece of astrological history just to give you some idea of how long astrologers have been using this cycle to not just study history but also to make predictions so super super cool prediction on her part and even the use of like the M-dash is actually pretty pretty funny in in the writing all right so that sets up you know the last time that we experienced this was World War II and it set up a precedent that was just impossible to ignore and by implication you know by the time you get to the late 20th century and the early 21st century you know I knew about this this repetition and I think most astrologers certainly anybody that did mundane astrology or worked with the birth chart of the United States or other things like that knew about this repetition.
自然地，人们不禁要好奇，下次当你的星座进入双子座时会发生什么。这将从2025年开始，一直持续到2033年。我的朋友Nick Digg和Nye对此话题非常看重，以至于这是我在《占星播客》早期的一个话题之一。这个播客的第11集名为《天王星与美国的占星学》，于2013年9月16日发布。这一期我采访了我的朋友Nick Digg和Nye，他们刚刚出版了一本名为《天王星与美国》的新书。书中研究了每当天王星进入双子座时，美国卷入重大战争的重复模式，并展示了这个模式是多么准确。同时，书中还讨论了一些参与战争的重要人物的出生星盘，以及天王星如何在这些人物的星盘中以有趣且重要的方式显现。例如，像亚伯拉罕·林肯或乔治·华盛顿这样的人物，因为通常在这些战争关键时刻，天王星会在这些重要人物的星盘中显得特别突出。
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And naturally it led one to wonder what would happen the next time you're in this would go into Gemini starting in 2025 and going until 2033 so my friend Nick Digg and best to Nye this is such a like key topic that it was one of the topics that I covered in one of my first episodes of the astrology podcast which was episode 11 of the astrology podcast titled The Astrology of Uranus and the United States which was released on September 16th 2013 and this was an episode where I was interviewing my friend Nick Digg and best about a new book that he had just published called Uranus USA where he went back and studied this repeating pattern of the US being involved in major wars every time Uranus was in Gemini and he demonstrated you know how closely the pattern held up like how well it held up as well as some of the birth charts of different people involved and how Uranus was hitting their birth charts in interesting and important ways in terms of some of the different people that were involved at crucial points like Abraham Lincoln or George Washington or other figures like that because often Uranus would be prominent in the charts of some of these people who were pivotal during the wars.
所以我想播放那集节目里的一个片段，因为在那段中，尼克和我讨论了这一行星过境在美国历史上三次最大战争中的历史重演，在节目的最后我们自然而然地谈到，尼克实际上做出了一个预言，意味着在2025年天王星进入双子座之后，可能会发生一场重大战争。因此，我现在将播放那集节目中的一个片段，让你可以听听我们在2013年的讨论。由于这是占星播客历史上的早期节目，当时我只做音频版本，没有视频，所以我决定选一张我和尼克的老照片，加上一些那个时间段的视觉资料，虽然照片比2013年更早一些。
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So I want to play a little bit of a clip from that because in that clip in in the episode it basically culminates after Nick and I talk about the historical recurrence of this transit in the three biggest wars in US history it's sort of naturally at the end we end on Nick basically making a prediction and the inference being that a major war would begin after Uranus moves into Gemini in 2025 sometime during the course of this transit so I'm going to play a clip from that episode now so you could listen to that discussion from 2013 and since this is so long ago early in the history of the astrology podcast I was only doing audio versions of the episodes and I wasn't doing video so I decided to pick out a humorously old picture of me and Nick to go along with some visuals from that time frame although the picture is a little bit older than 2013.
当然，尽管如此，因为你发现了一些清晰的模式，以及某些事件与这些模式一起出现的重复性相似，这无疑还是让你不可避免地对未来做出一些结论。例如，在书中多次提到的一个例子是天王星在双子座。我想许多人都一直在思考这个问题，因为我们正接近美国星盘中天王星再次回归的时刻，而天王星距离再次进入双子座也只有短短几年时间。
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Sure and yet despite that because of some of the clear patterns that you've discovered and because of the similarity of some of the repetitions in terms of the events that tend to coincide with them that does still seem to lead you inevitably to drawing some conclusions about the future when similar alignments or planetary transits will occur for example one that obviously comes up many times near book is Uranus in Gemini and I think it's been on a lot of people's minds for a while now that we're coming up for we're due for another Uranus return in the United States chart and Uranus is not too far from going back into Gemini in just just a few years now.
12年后是2025年，那时天王星会进入双子座。我想说的是，刚才我们讨论历史时，我觉得如果不是因为经历了2012年的"末日"现象，我可能不会写这本书。我的感觉是，人们对那种事情的担心已经经历过了，所以现在对我来说，推出这本关于占星的书要安全一些。这本书并没有明确断言，但确实暗示，美国可能会面临一种周期性或主题上的回归。也就是说，当天王星在2025年再次进入双子座时，这本书至少预测或期待会有另一场大型战争，其结果是在2033年结束时，美国可能会以某种方式成为一个不同的国家，重新定义自己。正如汤姆·潘恩所说，它有能力重新开始世界。我认为潘恩先生的话非常具有预见性，尽管他绝不可能预见200年后的事情，但他几乎是说对了。
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12 years from now yeah it'll be going it'll be entering Gemini in 2025. Okay I'll say that I mean having just talked about how I'm safe and talking about the history and and and and all this I'll say this I might not have written this book if we had not just gone through if the zeitgeist had not just gone through that whole 2012 my encounter thing because my sense is that you know people people have already you know to the degree that people were going to be freaked out by that kind of thing they've already gone through it so it's a little safer for me to sort of pop up with this astrology book that by no means insists but certainly suggests that the United States would be headed for a sort of a cyclical or thematic return during the cyclical return in other words when Uranus enters Gemini again in 2025 the book at least suggests or anticipates that you know there would be another one of these big wars the result of which by the end in 2033 would see the United States becoming a different country in some fashion redefining itself again as Tom Payne said having in its power to begin the world over again which I think is was was was very prophetic of of Mr. Payne sure when it comes to the country there's no way he could have seen ahead 200 years but well and behold he he's sort of dead sure.
嗯，是的，我是说，关于2012年的事情，确实如此。或许现在我们的状况要好一些，因为大家或者至少一些人可能对2012年的炒作感到有些失望，因为那时人们以为会发生什么大事，但实际上什么也没有发生。我记得当时很多人，包括我自己，还有你，都在试图对此持更为谨慎的态度，因为这一切都是建立在不太扎实的占星学论据之上的。不过，现在的情况有些不同。不过你知道，同时玛雅历法的恐慌被拍成了一部由迈克尔·贝导演的大片，我觉得那还是值得的，我挺喜欢那部灾难片的。所以，如果这是那次事件的主要成果，我对此表示欣赏。对，我是说，这样的电影让我在发布我的一些占星学内容时感到稍微安全一些。
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Um yeah and that's I mean the 2012 that's true and and definitely maybe we're in better shape now since everyone perhaps or at least some people are feeling a bit burned by the 2012 hype and the fact that it came and went and and nothing really happened um which I think a lot of people said I mean I I said I think you said a lot of us were trying to be much more cautionary about that because of what a weak sort of astrological argument it was based on um this is a little different though well yeah but I mean you know at the same time that you know the Mayan calendar uh scare was was turned into a big blockbuster Michael Bay movie well that was worth it I mean I enjoyed that that film in terms of disaster films so if that was the main thing that that resulted in then I I appreciate it for that right well I mean it just I mean it's it's um again you know that the something like that movie makes me feel a little safer about putting out my little astrology.
这本漫画书暗示美国可能卷入战争。首先，就像我们之前提到的，美国几乎总是卷入战争，所以这一事实本身并不一定会比现在更让人感到不安。不过，更大的影响似乎出现在天王星进入双子座的时候，这一点尤其引人注目。如果仔细想想，这可能是件可怕的事情，也可能是件美好的事情。我在书中所讨论的战争都是非常可怕的事件，带来了不可想象的破坏程度。但是，这些战争结束时也有理由乐观，因为它们从长远来看以某种方式改变了国家，我认为大多数人会同意这些变化是积极的。我们谈论到南北战争、二战以及美国革命，这三场战争都很血腥可怕，许多无辜的人遭受了苦难，其中很多还是完全没有必要的。不过，战争结束后，总会出现积极的结果。
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comic book that is that suggests that United States might get into a war first of all I mean United States like like we said earlier is almost always in wars so it's not like that it's not like that fact alone should necessarily be any more troubling to people than it then it then it already is um but the the sort of the the the the the the larger consequences that seem to come out of the war said occur when your honest is in is in Gemini um does it is a little more sort of uh striking and perhaps I mean if you really think about it could be it could be a scary thing or it could be a wonderful thing um but the the wars that I've discussed in this book are are all really horrible events with with just a unthinkable levels of destruction uh but there were you know there was there was reason for optimism at the end of these wars as well they they changed the nation I think in in in ways that I think most people would would agree were really you know positive in the long run even though I unfortunately they had to come at the expense of so many lives sure we're talking about the civil war in World War II yeah and the revolution I mean all three of them you know they were they were bloody they were horrible um a lot of innocent people suffered and there was you know so much so much of it most of it is so needless uh but you know I what once the war is over that there there are always these uh positive consequences coming out.
所以，我想我会倾向于认为在内战期间或结束时实现了种族隔离的终结，二战后美国成为仅存的超级大国。当然，美国也成功走出了经济大萧条，这在国家发展的道路上起到了重要作用。因此，我想对任何打算阅读我书籍并对此感到疑虑的人说，记住总是有希望在前方的隧道尽头，也许我们可能会经历一些糟糕的情况，就像过去三次经历的那些一样。但是同时，如果你对这些事情感到忧虑并持有消极态度的话，我会建议平衡一下，理解从大局来看，这些事情往往会改善生活。当然，如果这些事情都不发生，我会很高兴。
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So I guess I would like I guess I would see desegregation at the end of or during the course of the civil war and yeah World War II seeing the US as the sort of remaining superpower yeah and also of course you know pulling it out of the depression which was um you know pretty important in terms of whether the nation was going to go down the road sure um so I guess what I would say to anyone is if they were going to read my book and get all paranoid about it to to bear in mind that there's also that you know there's always let at the end of the tunnel maybe maybe uh you know I I hate to even sort of mention it you know maybe we are in for one of these just horrible horrible experiences that that the the last three involved uh but but at the same time if you're going to be if you're going to be paranoid and and uh I think negatively about all that um I would say try to balance that out with the with the understanding that in the big picture these these tend to um improve life you know sure uh and I'd be I'd certainly be very happy if none of this happens.
如果2025年或其他时间没有战争，对我来说没有问题。我只是做了一个观察，这绝不是一厢情愿的想法。好吧，我想这可以作为一个不错的总结，或是一种混杂的感受——有些黑暗的可能性，但也有一些积极的方面。嗯，在国家转型的方面。好吧，这就是我们12年前，也就是2013年的讨论，而尼克和我在2022年进行了更近期的讨论，我们更详细地探讨了天王星在美国历史中的回归，以及我们对当时即将到来的天王星回归的一些预测，而那时候距离这个回归还有三年之遥。不过，我想播放2013年的片段只是为了给你看看，2013年是一个非常不同的时期，当时我们距离现在发生的一系列显而易见的事情还有很远，而这些现在看来如此明显如此迫近，因为今天是2025年7月6日。过去几年中，我们一直在讨论的一个问题是，美国历史上的模式设立了一个先例，即有两次天王星通过双子座的过境，期间发生了与其他国家的重大外部冲突，比如在独立战争时，美国宣布脱离英国独立并进行独立战争，或者在第二次世界大战期间，美国对抗纳粹德国和日本。
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If there's no war you know in 2025 or any other time that that's fine with me um I I just made the observation it's by no means wishful thinking sure well that um I mean I think that's a good high note to end on uh or sort of mixed I guess some yeah dark dark possibilities but also some positive ones yeah yeah um in terms of a transformation of the country um all right so that was our discussion from 12 years ago from 2013 and Nick and I did a more recent discussion from 2022 where we went and even more detail about your your honest return in US history and also more detail about obviously some of the things we're anticipating then coming up with the current Uranus return which at that point was then three years away but I wanted to play the 2013 clip because um just to show you you know 2013 was such a different time when we were so much further away from the huge like constellation of different stuff that's come together now that seems so obvious and is so in front of our face at this point by you know today's July 6 2025 so we have um you know one of the things that we we've been talking about for the past several years is how the pattern in US history set up a precedent where there had been two Uranus transits through Gemini where it was a major external conflict which was a war with another country which is you know in the revolutionary war it was the US declaring its independence from Britain and fighting a war of independence during the revolutionary war or during World War 2 it was the US fighting against Nazi Germany and fighting against Japan.
在1800年代，美国经历了一场内战，这是国家内部的冲突，称为南北战争，美国人互相残杀。我们关注的是，美国在2025年至2033年即将经历的天王星回归时期，可能会面临类似的情况。当时发生的两种情况之一或甚至两种并存的可能性非常大。随着国内的内部冲突和政治紧张局势不断加剧，加上美国与世界各国的关系日益紧张，这种可能性看起来非常现实。尤其是过去十年间美国与俄罗斯的关系不稳定，美国上个月刚刚攻击了伊朗，美国与新兴超级大国中国之间的紧张关系也在不同时间点出现冲突。内外部所有这些因素正在汇聚，把我们带到了今天的局面。
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But then there was another scenario in the 1800s which was an internal conflict which was the civil war when the country turned on itself with different Americans killing Americans so one of the things we've been aware of is that there was the potential for either one or potentially both to happen in this upcoming Uranus return of the United States from 2025 to 2033 and at this point I think we can kind of see how the potential for both is very much present and seems very likely at this point because of the huge amount of both internal conflicts intentions within the country and with respect to the government and where things are headed but also um a lot of a huge amount of external tensions that are building up and building up in terms of the US and its relationship with different countries around the world with you know the US and Russia over the past decade with the US and Iran which the US just was involved in attacking last month and June between the US and China as an emerging superpower that the US has been in tensions with and conflicts with at different points we can see how all of these different things both externally and internally have been coalescing or or constillating to bring us to the point we're at today.
而现在我们处在历史的这一时刻，即将进入天王星在双子座的新周期，这个周期大致将从2025年持续到2033年。在这个时候，冲突的可能性似乎是如此明显和不可避免。然而，即便是十年前，甚至是2022年和2023年，还觉得这像是在远处地平线上若隐若现的事情，尽管我们能够看到历史的重复和这种情况再次发生的可能性。当然，在2013年时，这种可能性看起来更遥远。然而，历史的关联性似乎是如此引人注目，这足以让Nick在2013年做出这样的预测，并让今天的人们感到这是一种非常有远见的预见。12年后，现在我们正站在这样一个新的时代和天王星在双子座的新过境的门槛上。
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And now that we're at this point in history where we're heading into another one of these cycles of Uranus going through Gemini over the course of the next um seven to eight years basically from 2025 to 2033 the likelihood of a conflict seems uh so obvious and so inevitable at this point but you know even a decade ago even a few years ago in like 2023 22 it was like still something that seemed far away on the horizon even though we could see the repetition and we could see the likelihood of it repeating again and certainly back in 2013 it seemed even more distant and remote as a possibility way back then and yet um yeah the the historical correlation seemed so compelling and it seemed compelling enough certainly for Nick to make that prediction uh back in 2013 and for that to now seem very prescient today uh 12 years later 12 years later now that we're right on the cusp we're right on the precipice of moving into this this new era and this new transit of Uranus and Gemini.
所以，我想给我们一些视角，表明这件事是占星家们一直在讨论的。已经有很多关于天王星进入双子座的讨论。随着局势日益紧张以及冲突最终爆发，这方面的讨论会越来越多。
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So um I wanted to give us some perspective though and to show that this is something that astrologers because there's there's a lot of talk about this already um there's been a lot of talk about it in anticipation of Uranus going into Gemini. There's going to be a lot more talk about it as things continue to get more and more tense and as conflict eventually breaks out.
从我的角度来看，作为一名实践中的占星师，以及过去几十年来一直关注相关讨论的人，同时也是一名占星学历史学家，我想指出，这并不是一个刚刚因为天王星进入双子座而出现的新话题。
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Um but I wanted to point out from my perspective partially not just as a practicing astrologer and somebody that's been around for the past couple of decades and as aware of the discussions that have been had in the lead up to this but also as a historian of astrology I wanted to demonstrate how this isn't like a new discussion that astrologers have just been having recently now that Uranus is actually going into Gemini.
事实上，早在19世纪60年代，也就是美国南北战争爆发时，星象学家们就开始讨论这一现象。当时，美国的天王星刚刚回到双子座，美国正处于可能陷入其历史上最致命战争之一的边缘。
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But in fact it's something that astrologers have been discussing since um the 1860s since the time of the Civil War when the Civil War was breaking out and the US Uranus had recently returned to Gemini and the US was right on the cusp of plunging into one of the most deadly wars in its history.
占星术 最早的占星师之一显然是卢克·布劳顿，他可能是第一个或其中一个注意到这一关联的占星师。他观察到这一关联既是一种历史上的对应关系，也是在他那个时代能够看到的一种巧合，即天体运动与非常具体的地球事件相符，同时也是一种历史的重复。
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Astrology the first astrologers evidently Luke Broughton was one of the first if not the first astrologer who noticed this correlation both as a historical correlation and as something that was happening in his time that he could see that was coinciding that was a celestial movement that was coinciding with a very specific earthly event and as well as a historical repetition.
这就是占星术的一部分，你知道的，并不是说占星师总是这样进行预测或发展预测。有时候，预测是基于对符号的解读的，但占星术还有另一个面向，这是一种经验方面的东西。有些时候，占星的预测是基于观察即将发生的行星过境，并回顾上一次相同的行星排列时发生了什么。通过研究历史事件，或是写下、记录事件以及与重大历史事件相吻合的行星排列，占星师们经过许多世纪，甚至数千年的努力，积累了大量的观察资料，这些资料成为传承下来的集体智慧，一代又一代地传给后来的占星师们。
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So this is part of how astrologers you know it's not it's not always how astrologers do predictions or develop predictions sometimes predictions are based on interpreting symbolism but um there's this other side of astrology which is there's this empirical side to astrology sometimes where some of the astrological predictions are based on seeing a transit coming up and going back and seeing what happened the last time that that same planetary alignment occurred and by studying events in history or by writing down and recording events and and what planetary alignments coincided with major events in history astrologers for many many centuries for thousands of years have built up these large collections of observations which becomes like this collective wisdom that is passed down from generation to generation of astrologers.
有时候，这些相关性和过去占星家所做的观察可能非常强大且富有启发性。因为占星家有时就是亲身经历历史事件的人，他们记录了当时星球和天空的动态，以及这些动态如何神秘地反映在人类历史上一些最重要的事件中。这种情况在美国历史中确实存在，就像我几个月前在关于美索不达米亚占星术的节目中记录的那样，这些记录可以追溯到两三千甚至四千年前。当时的美索不达米亚占星家也记录了他们时代的重要事件，比如记录亚历山大大帝去世以及那个时候的天体运转情况的占星家，还有其他著名人物如尤利乌斯·凯撒、查理曼等。
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Sometimes these correlations and these observations that past astrologers have made can be very powerful and very informative because astrologers are sometimes people who are living through historical events and they're documenting what the planets and what the sky was doing at that time and how it was mysteriously mirroring events on earth during some of the most important events in human history. This is true in US history but it also like I documented in my episode on Mesopotamian astrology a couple of months ago this goes back you know two three four thousand years to the Mesopotamian astrologers who are also documenting important events in their time like the astrologer who wrote down when Alexander the Great died and what the celestial alignments were that month when that happened or other famous figures like you know Julius Julius Caesar or Charlemagne or other historical figures like that.
总有一些占星师在幕后工作，他们关注地球上和天空中同时发生的事情，并加以记录。希望在某些情况下，这些记录可以传给后代占星师，以便他们在自己的时代利用这些星象预测未来。因此，我想要做的一部分工作就是在我们即将进入这一时期时，对这些现象进行记录，并展示我们对即将发生的事情已经有了超过十年的预期。然后，希望其他占星师也能回顾这些记录，并像我们回顾卢克·布劳顿或伊万杰琳·亚当斯所写的内容时一样，感到惊叹。
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There's always astrologers working in the background and paying attention to what's happening on earth and what's happening in the sky at the same time and then recording those things and then hopefully in some instances passing them down to future generations so that later astrologers can use those same configurations to predict the future in their own time. So part of what I wanted to do is document that as we're on the cusp of moving into this and to show that we've been kind of anticipating this the things that are about to happen for obviously for more than a decade now and to pass that information on and then hopefully other astrologers will be able to look back and kind of like marvel in the same way that we look back here and read what Luke brought in wrote or what Evangeline Adams wrote.
这段文字大致意思是：有一种预见性可以预料那次过渡意味着什么，但我希望我错了，因为显然没有人希望美国发生重大外部冲突或内部冲突。我不希望这些事情发生，希望这是第一次这种重复不会发生，打破过去的模式。但在过去十年中，我们离它越来越近，似乎一切都在逐步形成，可能导致与美国历史上前三次类似的结果。
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And that there's sort of like prescience to have that anticipation about what that transit would mean and hopefully that well I should actually correct that not hopefully because obviously the deal is not for either a major external conflict or internal conflict to take place in the United States because I would prefer that not to happen I'd prefer to be wrong about all of this and to have this be like the first time that that repetition doesn't take place and that the pattern is broken but obviously over the past decade the closer and closer we've gotten to it the more and more it seems like the pieces have fallen into place to bring about something that's very similar to the last three times that this happened in US history.
在接下来的七年里，我们终于将看到这究竟是怎样的一种情况，以及它有多困难或多糟糕。不过，我播放这个片段的另一个原因是因为尼克也试图对此进行积极的解读，而我们在不同的时间点也曾这样尝试过。我的朋友奥斯汀·科皮克在谈到这一过渡期时，也曾在不同的时间点这样尝试过。这段过渡期往往极其艰难，伴随着很多冲突，甚至常常有很多生命逝去。但同时，这也是一个变革的过渡期，随着时间的推移，到最后有些事情可能会有所改善，或者人们的生活会有所好转。而且，尽管在此期间会发生许多困难和悲剧，国家在走出这个过渡期后，有时方向也会变得更好。
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And now over the course of the next seven years we'll finally get to see what exactly that looks like how difficult or how bad it is but also you know the other reason I play that clip is because Nick also tried to put a positive spin on it which you know we've also tried to do at different points my friend Austin Copic has also tried to do at different points when we talk about this transit is that it tends to be an incredibly difficult one and there's a lot of conflict and oftentimes a lot of loss of life but then it's also a transformational transit whereby by the end of it sometimes there are certain things that are improved or become better about people's lives and sometimes the direction of the country going out of the transit on the other side of it even though there's a lot of very difficult and tragic things that happened during the course of it.
有时候，一些非常积极的事情会发生。举个例子，比如美国内战及其后的废奴运动。相比于内战前奴隶和许多人在美国的地位，这场伟大冲突的结果之一是解放的力量。有时，通过这些巨大的冲突，也会出现一种解放的能量，这就像天王星的影响，一旦你度过了斗争时期并到达另一边，你就能感受到这种解放的力量。
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So sometimes there can be very positive things that happen I mean one of them for example was the civil war and the end of slavery on the other side of the civil war versus the status of slaves and of so many people in the United States prior to that time. So sometimes through these great conflicts there can also sometimes be this energy of liberation that also comes with Uranus once you get to the other side of that and once you sort of push through the period of struggle in order to achieve that.
所以，即使最坏的情况发生，我仍然抱有很大的希望。在其他类似情况下建立的先例，可能会带来一些积极的、解放性的结果，此外，在这些时期中也偶尔出现了一些积极的事情，比如技术和通讯方面的创新，以及其他许多类似的事情。在接下来的几年中，我们也将看到这些方面有显著的加强。
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So that's one of my hopes in the best case scenarios about even if the worst does come to pass I'm still deeply hopeful that the precedent of some of the other instances also brings about some positive liberatory pieces on the other end of this transit in addition to some of the other things that were occasionally positive during the course of those periods as well such as obviously innovations in technology and communications and lots of other things like that which we will also see intensify a lot during the course of the next several years.
在最近的预测节目中，我提到我预计天王星进入双子座后，在通信和旅行方面会出现重大创新。局部旅行系统将会彻底转型和自动化，例如汽车完全实现自动驾驶。在这个过渡期间，一些与人工智能相关的技术可能会得到快速发展和加速，尤其是因为天王星还会与冥王星形成三分相。
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So I've talked about on the recent forecast episodes where I expect Uranus and Gemini to be major innovations in communication in travel the complete transformation and automation of local travel systems with like cars becoming fully automated the advancement and acceleration of some of the things that's going to happen with artificial intelligence is probably very likely during the course of this transit especially since Uranus will also be trining Pluto.
自2022年以来的三年里，我们见证了冥王星经历了一个独特的时期，这导致了人工智能突然的增长和加速。随着天王星进入双子座并与冥王星形成三分相，这可能会成为这个时期的一个标志性特征。我预计这将深刻地改变社会，可能在某些方面并不理想，但是希望在其他方面会有积极的变化，这些变化既具有建设性又有用，可能有助于改善社会、人类和人类的自由与解放。当然，不可避免地会有一些负面影响，但同时也有可以期待的积极前景。虽然存在一些困难的潜在因素，但也有值得期待的积极可能性。
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We've seen Pluto going through a quarryus over the past three years since around 2022 and how that's led to this sudden explosion of growth and acceleration of artificial intelligence and with Uranus moving into Gemini and trining Pluto that will probably be one of the defining things I'm anticipating about this period that will come out of it having a deeply transformed society probably in some instances in not good ways but hopefully in other instances in positive ways that's actually constructive and useful and you know hopefully improve society and humanity and human freedom and liberation in some ways whatever downsides come along with that so there's definitely some things to be hopeful for but definitely some difficult potentials at the same time.
所以，我想就此打住。我非常建议大家去收听一下我和尼克合录的关于美国天王星回归的那期节目，这不是第一次提到它，它是在《占星播客》的第11期，不过这期节目仅在播客网站上可以找到。请访问theastrologypodcast.com，进入“集数”页面，向下滚动到第11集，就能看到标题为“美国的天王星占星学”的这期节目。
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So I think I'm going to leave it on that note I would really recommend checking out the not just the first episode that Nick and I did on the Uranus return of the United States which was episode 11 of the Astrology Podcast which is only available on the podcast website at the astrologypodcast.com go to the episodes page and just scroll to episode 11 and you'll see the episode titled the Astrology of Uranus in the United States.
所以那是我们第一次讨论的内容，之后我们进行了更深入的讨论，那就是第376集。在YouTube上也有一个视频版本，标题为《美国的天王星回归》，该视频于2022年11月19日发布。如果你想了解更多关于这个周期及其在美国历史上的影响，我强烈推荐观看那一集，因为它对这个话题进行了非常深入的探讨。除此之外，我想这就是我要说的全部了。
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So that was the first discussion we did and then we did a much more extensive discussion that was episode 376 which there's also a video version of on YouTube titled The Uranus Return of the United States which was released on November 19th 2022 so for more about this cycle and how it's lined up in US history I'd really recommend checking that episode out because it gives a very extensive treatment of this topic but otherwise I think I think that's it I think that's all I want to say.
为了纪念这一重大历史时刻，天王星进入双子座，我们终于来到了这一刻。我想祝愿大家好运，希望每个人都能尽可能积极地应对和度过这一历史时期。这不仅可能是美国历史上的一个重要时刻，也可能是在世界历史上具有潜在意义的事件。
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So I'm to commemorate this huge historical moment as Uranus moves into Gemini we're finally there I want to wish everyone you know the best of luck I hope everyone can manage and navigate this as constructively as possible as we move through this this historic era probably both in United States history but also potentially in in terms of world history.
我希望我们都能尽可能顺利地度过这段时间。我们会看看事情的发展和结局。我会定期关注，特别是在预测的内容中，记录和评估情况，并且进一步讨论。
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I hope we can all navigate it as as well as possible and yeah we'll see how things go and how things turn out and I'll check in periodically especially on the forecast episodes to document and assess things and talk more about it.
哦，对了，还有一件事我差点没提到。我之前简单提过，就是卢克·布劳顿提到的一个观点：天王星这个度数尤其敏感。在美国的占星图中，天王星位于双子座8度。虽然整个天王星过境双子座的过程大约持续七年，但当天王星回到双子座8度时，这个时刻显得尤其重要。在那些时间段里，可能会发生一些特别显著或有问题的事情，最为紧张的阶段有时正好与这个精准的过境重合。
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Oh yeah that's one last thing I almost didn't mention I mentioned it briefly but one of the things that Luke Broughton mentioned is how the Uranus degree was particularly sensitive where Uranus in the US chart is at eight degrees of Gemini and while the entire transit is the entirety of Uranus going through the sign of Gemini for about seven years it's really especially also when Uranus will return to that exact degree around eight degrees of Gemini seems particularly potent and sometimes particularly problematic in terms of what happens during those times that the most intense phase sometimes coincides with the exact transit.
我认为他注意到了这一点，不过我记不清Evangelion Adams是否在其他地方也提到了这一点。这一点很重要，部分原因是，我确实认为当天王星进入双子座后，下一年会特别戏剧化。但事情实际上会升级并达到高潮，因为我的朋友Austin Copic最近指出，2026年美国的太阳回归（国庆日）正好在7月4日左右会有一个非常接近的火星与天王星合相。
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And I think he notes this I can't remember if Evangelion Adams notes that as well elsewhere but that's important partially because while I do think the next year once Uranus moves into Gemini is going to be especially dramatic I think things actually escalate and get heightened because my friend Austin Copic recently pointed out that the solar return the birthday of the United States in 2026 has a nearly exact Mars Uranus conjunction right on July 4th.
好的，让我们仔细看看这个情况。当前的星图显示，天王星位于金牛座29度59分。这真的很疯狂。我会把星图动态化：一小时、两小时、三小时、四小时、五小时，就在这，天王星将在7号的凌晨进入双子座（丹佛时间）。接下来我要继续推进，因为天王星实际上会进入逆行状态。今年它在进入双子座不久后会在9月份开始逆行。有趣的是，这次第一次逆行停驻通常很明显，像是在这个行星旁加上一个感叹号，表明这个星象在这一星座的整个过境期间会如何发展。尤其值得注意的是，这次逆行与一次月食同时发生，因为9月7日左右会有一次在双鱼座的月食，这似乎非常重要。两周后还有一次在处女座的日食，所以这一年的首次逆行发生在食季节，因此在那段时间会特别显眼和重要，所以我们会非常密切地关注这一情况。
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So let's actually let's take a look at that okay so this is the chart of the moment and Uranus we can see is at 2959 Taurus that. is so crazy I'm going to animate the chart one hour two hours three hours four hours five hours there there it is so Uranus will go into Gemini early on the seventh here in Denver and I'm going to move it forwards because what happens is Uranus actually stations retrograde it doesn't get very far into Gemini this year before it stations retrograde in September weirdly that retrograde station that first retrograde station which will probably be the first retrograde station is particularly loud usually it acts as an exclamation mark next to a planet when it stations retrograde for the first time in a sign and it usually tells you what the rest of that transit is going to be all about the first time an outer planet stations in a sign and what's notable about this is it actually is happening the same time as an eclipse because there's a lunar eclipse in Pisces that takes place around that time on September 7th which seems very important and then there'll be a solar eclipse in Virgo two weeks later so that first year in a station happens during eclipse season so it's going to be particularly loud and prominent during that time so we'll be paying very close attention to it.
今年晚些时候，天王星会逆行回到金牛座，暂时离开双子座，不过它将在明年初转为顺行，然后在2026年5月前后再次进入双子座。在2026年6月29日，火星也进入双子座，接着在7月4日左右，与天王星形成非常接近的合相，可能会在7月4日的早晨准确相合。
因此，2026年6月底和7月是一个较为动荡的时期，尤其是在这个精确合相期间。此外，这个合相也将对美国从2026年7月到2027年7月的合太阳回归图产生影响，意味着这一整年都会受到火星与天王星合相的影响。
根据美国的本命星图，这次合相再现了本命中的火星与天王星合相。到2027年7月4日的太阳回归时，天王星将回到双子座的7到8度，似乎在7月晚些时候，天王星的回归会第一次精确到达，从而使得从2026到2027年的这段时间内尤为重要。
这种影响不仅会在2026年7月的太阳回归图中显现，因为火星和天王星的合相看起来非常具有攻击性，也增加了冲突的潜在可能性。从2027年7月独立日后的太阳回归图开始，天王星将继续保持其精确的位置，这意味着影响将持续到下一个整年内。
在2027年至2028年期间，天王星继续在这一度数逆行，在2028年的4月至5月间再次达到精确位置，再次达到一个高峰。紧接着，火星又再次进入双子座。
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And then moving forward Uranus retrogrades back into Taurus later this year so that it returns back to Taurus it exits Gemini for just a little bit but then it stations direct early next year and moves into Gemini again by it looks like a May of 2026 yeah by late April early May of 2026 it moves back into Gemini and then what is disturbing is Mars moves into Gemini yeah it moves into Gemini in late June June 29th and then on July 4th we see Mars has just passed a conjunction with Uranus which looks like it goes exact around July 3 and July 4th actually is it early on the 4th yeah it's super close on the east coast it may actually happen on very early on July 4th 2026 so on the one hand that's going to be kind of a crazy time frame late June and July of 2026 especially around that exact conjunction but more broadly it means that that Mars Uranus conjunction is going to be baked into the solar return chart for the United States for that entire year of like July of 2026 until July of 2027 so that seems very notable is in terms of stamping the nature of a Mars Uranus conjunction and having a recurrence of the natal Mars Uranus conjunction that's in the US birth chart in terms of Uranus getting back to the exact degree it looks like it's here in this time frame oh great yeah like exactly a year later on that solar return around July 4th Uranus gets back to seven eight degrees of Gemini nice okay so um in the sibling chart Uranus is at eight degrees and 55 minutes of Gemini so it looks like it's right after that um solar return later in July that 2027 that the Uranus return goes exact I believe for the first time so that means that's going to continue to be very potent um not just the solar return chart from July of 2026 which seems especially combative because Mars is also conjunct Uranus and the potential for conflict seems incredibly heightened in that solar return year from July 2026 until July 2027 but then Uranus will still be at its exact return um shortly after the July 2027 independence day in solar return chart so that'll then be stamped into the entirety of that next year as well and then Uranus is still retrograding over that degree 2027 through 2028 um it looks like it goes exact again what is that April May 2028 Uranus is exactly returning again and is again hitting a peak point and then I see that Mars goes into Gemini again not long after that.
所以我们将迎来另一次火星与天王星的合相，这次看起来像是火星、天王星和水星的合相，特别是在2028年6月23日左右会引发问题。因此，2028年6月底到7月之间需要特别注意，这会引导我们进入下一次美国的太阳回归图中，从2028年7月4日开始，图中又会有一个火星与天王星的合相，这将“重刻”一个非常易燃、爆炸性的合相在未来一年的太阳回归图中。可以说，这绝对不太好。此外，我们到那个时候也才走过一半的过境期。到2029年时，天王星将开始进入双子座的后期度数，然后开始顺行。我这里快速往前讲，因为在某个时候，天王星会开始接触到美国本命图中火星的位置，当天王星达到双子座21度左右时，这将是美国本命图中另一个敏感且易燃的点。
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So we get another Mars Uranus conjunction this one looks like a Mars Uranus mercury conjunction that's particularly problematic around June 23rd so late June of 2028 especially um yeah basically June of 2028 through July of 2028 and then that leads us to the next solar return where it builds in another Mars Uranus conjunction into the solar return chart for the United States starting July 4th 2028 so again it then um re-stamps a very combustive sort of explosive conjunction into that solar return chart for another year so that's not great um to put it mildly and then yeah we're still only halfway through the transit by this point by the time we're getting into like 2029 Uranus is starting to get into later degrees of Gemini before stationing direct and I'm in a fast forward here because at some point Uranus will start hitting the natal Mars placement of the US around this time around when it gets around to 21 degrees of Gemini and that is another sensitive and combustible point in the US birth chart.
所以不仅仅是天王星位于双子座8度的位置，还有火星的位置也需要注意。我来展示一下，天王星在美国出生图中是位于双子座8度，而火星是位于双子座21度。我们再回到动画上，目前我有点即兴处理这些内容，还没有来得及深入研究，所以如果这个部分的呈现不够充分，我要先表示歉意。但我刚刚意识到，我们可以通过观察这些行星的位置来界定一些时间段。我和尼克在几年前的一次关于人工智能和占星术的节目中讨论过，当土星在2030年代初进入双子座时，土星、天王星和冥王星之间会出现一些有趣的组合，以及三分相的发生。
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So it's not just the Uranus placement at 8 degrees of Gemini but it's also the Mars placement which let me show that there it is so Uranus at 8 degrees of Gemini in the US birth chart and Mars at 21 Gemini so let's switch back to the animation I'm sort of doing this on the fly I haven't looked at all of this in as much detail as I would like yet so I apologize for the um like I don't know not as prepared presentation of this piece as it could have been but I just realized at the end we could look at this also to give some time frames because one of the things I did see and Nick and I talked about this in an episode on artificial intelligence and astrology a few years ago is um when Saturn goes into Gemini later in this period in the late in the early 2030s there's some interesting combinations between Saturn Uranus and Pluto um and that trine that's taking place.
所以我会跳过这部分内容，我们在这里可以看到天王星在2032年首次进入巨蟹座，我们开始接近这个过境的尾声。但随后，天王星在2033年逆行回到双子座，最后在2033年5月才顺行并最终离开双子座，这是这个过境的结束。这给你一个关于这个过境的概述：它将是一个波动的过程，天王星将在美国的出生星图上往返于不同的点，也会在不同人的出生星图上经过，不仅是国家的领导人，世界领导者，也包括所有受该过境影响的个人，他们将在不同的时间点在星图上某些度数被天王星影响。
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So I'll skip over talking about this so we can see here for the first time Uranus goes into cancer in 2032 so we start getting towards the end of that transit but then Uranus retrogrades back into Gemini in 2033 before eventually stashing direct and departing from Gemini for the final time in may in may of 2033 and then that's the end of the transit so um that gives you kind of an overview of what the transit actually looks like is it's going to be this process that's going to come in waves of Uranus uh going back and forth over different points in the US birth chart it's going to be going over different points in different peoples birth charts including world leaders the leaders of countries but also in terms of individual people who will be affected by that transit are going to be getting you know hit by Uranus going over certain degrees in their chart at different points.
然后我们会经历一些特别紧张并且充满变化和爆发性的时期，这主要是因为火星和天王星的相位，特别是这两个即将在2026年和2028年出现的相位，它们会融入太阳回归图中。这看起来也许会带来一些问题，并且真的指向并聚焦于未来不久的一些重要时间段。这就是一个大致的概述。
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Then we're going to have some particularly uh tense and sort of combustible and explosive periods when we have some of those Mars Uranus alignments especially especially those two that are taking place and that are going to get built into the solar return chart in it looked like uh 2026 and 2028 so that also seems problematic and seems to really point to and focus in on some specific time frames that are going to be important in the not too distant future so uh yeah that's kind of an overview.
我要把更详细的部分留到以后，会在某个时候详细讨论未来的行运以及我们在未来几年中可能会看到的情况。本集本来是要回顾过去，但我想在结尾稍微提一下未来的行运，以便让你了解一些正在发生的事情。好，谢谢你收看这一集以及参与这次讨论。感谢我的朋友Nick Digginbass，一定要去看看他的网站以及我们过去的一些讨论，因为在我认识的所有占星师中，他在这个话题上研究得最多。
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I'm going to save a more detailed treatment and at some point I'll try to do a more detailed treatment of the future transit's and what we're looking at over the next several years for another episode this one was really supposed to be more retrospective but I thought I would throw that in at the end just to show you a little bit of what what some of the transits are looking like all right so thanks for watching this episode and this discussion shout out to my friend Nick digginbass be sure to check out his website and some of those different um discussions that him and I have had in the past because he's done more on this topic than any other astrologer that I know.
所以我想特别赞扬他在这方面的研究，以及他过去做出的一些预测。不过除此之外，我想这就是本期占星播客的全部内容。感谢收听，我们下次再见。如果你是节目的粉丝，并希望支持我的研究，可以考虑通过我的 Patreon 页面成为赞助者。作为回馈，你可以享受一些专属福利，比如抢先收听新节目、参加直播录音、每月的择时占星播客，以及一档只对赞助者开放的独家播客系列《秘密占星播客》。你甚至可以让你的名字出现在片尾字幕中。更多信息，请访问 patreon.com/astrology podcast。
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So I wanted to shout him out in terms of his research on this and some of the the predictions that he's made in the past but otherwise I think that's it for this episode of the astrology podcast so thanks for listening and I'll see you again next time. If you're a fan of the podcast and you'd like to find a way to help support my research then consider becoming a patron through my page on patreon.com in exchange you'll get access to subscriber benefits such as early access to new episodes the ability to attend live recordings the monthly electional astrology podcast an exclusive podcast series called the secret astrology podcast that's only available to patrons or you can even get your name listed in the credits for more information go to patreon.com slash astrology podcast.
特别感谢我制片人等级的赞助者们，包括 Christie、Moe、Ariana，以及其他的赞助者：Mandy、Ray、Angelic、Nambu、Isa、Sabah、Jeanie、Marie Capelin、Malissa、Delano、Sonny、Bazbaz、Quazi、Alabaru、Any、Newman、Jinger、Sodley、A、Burlin、West 和 Niki Crawford。
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Special thanks to the patrons on my producers tier including patrons Christie, Moe, Ariana, and more: Mandy, Ray, Angelic, Nambu, Isa, Sabah, Jeanie, Marie Capelin, Malissa, Delano, Sonny, Bazbaz, Quazi, Alabaru, Any, Newman, Jinger, Sodley, A, Burlin, West, and Niki Crawford.
很多人经常问我是否可以提供咨询服务，但很遗憾，现在我没有空，因为播客占用了我很大一部分时间。然而，我在《占星播客》网站上创建了一个咨询页面，上面列出了我推荐的占星师。您可以在 theastrologypodcast.com/consultations 找到这些信息。
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People often ask me if I'm available for consultations, but unfortunately I'm not right now because the podcast takes up so much of my time. However, I did create a consultations page on the Astrology Podcast website that has a list of astrologers that I recommend for astrological consultations. You can find that at theastrologypodcast.com/slash/consultations.
我们在播客中使用的占星软件叫做Solar Fire，是用于Windows系统的PC占星软件。你可以在alabe.com网站上使用优惠码AP15，享受15%的折扣。如果你是Mac用户，我推荐使用Astro Gold软件，这是专为Mac电脑设计的占星软件，由PC版Solar Fire的开发者制作。你可以在他们的网站astrogold.io上使用优惠码ASTROPodcast15，享受15%的折扣。
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The astrology software we use here on the podcast is called Solar Fire for Windows, which is astrology software for the PC. You can get a 15% discount by using the promo code AP15 at the website alabe.com. For Mac users, I recommend the software Astro Gold from Mac OS, which is astrology software for the Mac computer made by the creators of Solar Fire for the PC. You can get a 15% discount with the promo code ASTROPodcast15 through their website at astrogold.io.
如果你想深入学习占星学，我推荐你报名参加我的古希腊占星学课程。这是一门在线的古代占星学课程，我会从基础概念开始，带领学员学习到中级和高级的生辰图读法。这个课程包括超过一百小时的视频讲座，每月还有网络研讨会和答疑环节。课程结束时，如果你通过了最终的书面考试，还能获得一张由我授课的结业证书。可以在The Astrology School网站上获取更多信息。
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If you're really looking to deepen your studies of astrology, I recommend signing up for my Hellenistic astrology course, which is an online course in ancient astrology where I take people from basic concepts up through intermediate and advanced techniques for reading birth charts. There's over a hundred hours of video lectures, plus monthly webinars and Q&A sessions, and then at the end of the course, you get a certificate of completion saying that you studied with me if you pass the final written test. Find out more information at The Astrology School.