【試聽課】2026占星進階實戰課 — 本命與預測 (Chart Delineation & Forecasting) ｜by Joy Usher
发布时间 2026-03-03 11:00:48 来源
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Hello, my name is Joy Asher. I'm a astrologer and have been for 30 years. I met some of you through previous years of working with Sator and workshops, but I'm absolutely excited. It's a very small word to say how much I'm looking forward to working with you this year. I wanted to do a little bit of a background on not on myself, but looking at a chart. So what I'm going to do is, you know, enough about me. I'm going to share the screen. And I'm going to work with these charts here, which is the child of your car owner. So hopefully you can see this very clearly.
你好，我叫Joy Asher。我是一位占星师，已经从业30年了。我过去在与Sator合作和举办工作坊时认识了一些朋友，但用"期待"这个词来形容我对今年与你们合作的心情实在是太微不足道了。我想简单介绍一下我自己，不过更重要的是，想带大家看看一张星盘。所以，我就不多说我的背景了，我会共享屏幕，和大家一起分析这些星盘，这是车主的孩子的星盘。希望你们能清楚地看到。
One of the ways that students, you know, the students for Sator, but students that we've had through the years is to say, we know all the basics. We've loaded all. We know all the bits and pieces, but how we've put it together. So there's kind of an idea that students have that there is a formula. There you can put something together and always follow this process of doing this and then do this and then look at that and then follow it in this way. So they're looking for, I suppose they're looking for a logical way to step to a chart. But I really have to say that each chart is like a piece of music.
多年来，有些学生，包括那些学习Sator的学生，经常会这样说：我们已经掌握了所有基本知识，我们学习了所有零零碎碎的内容，但我们不知道如何把它们组合在一起。学生们往往认为有一个公式，可以按照某种流程去做：先做这个，然后再做那个，接着查看某个东西，并按照这个方法去操作。所以，我想他们是在寻找一种逻辑上的步骤去解读星盘。但我必须说，每张星盘就像一首音乐作品，每一个都是独特的。
Each chart has its own unique pattern. So it's more about learning how to change the notes and how to change the flow of the music that you see in a chart than it is to say, always do this. So, you know, I've hope people say you must start with the luminaries. You must start with the sun. You must start with the ascended. No, no, no, you've got to do the mid heaven. But I really have to say each one will have its own flow and part of the work of astrologers to say, can I tap into this energy? Can I understand what's going on here?
每张图都有自己独特的模式。因此，比起固定地遵循某种方法，更重要的是学会如何改变乐谱中的音符和流动。有人会说，你必须从光体开始，你必须从太阳开始，或是从上升点开始。不，不，不，你应该从中天开始。但实际上，我想说的是，每张图都有自己的节奏，作为占星师的一部分工作就是探索这些能量，理解其中的奥秘。
So I'm going to take this chart for yoga owner. And I'm going to go through the process of how I would look at it and to think about, OK, where will I start? What will I look at next? What is a real process for me? Because you don't always get the opportunity in the time that you spend with a client or when you're looking at any particular chart to cover absolutely everything. That's not what this is about. It's saying, what is important now? What do I need to look at at this moment?
所以我要拿这张瑜伽图表进行分析。我将分享我是如何查看这张图表的，并思考我会从哪里开始，然后接下来会关注什么。这是一个真实的流程，因为在与客户交谈或查看某个特定图表时，你并不总是有机会涵盖所有内容。这并不是重点，而是在于找出现在什么是重要的，我在此刻需要关注什么。
So I'm going to look at this chart and I'm going to kind of go through the process of what I would do just with this chart and are you followed along with me? I'm sure. Having said that, but there's no formula and no whether I particularly start. I'm inclined to always start with set. I'm inclined to look at the set of the chart. Is it a daytime chart? Is it a nighttime chart? Will they born during the day or they're born during the night? So excuse me, if you know.
所以我会看这张图表，并大致讲述一下我一般会怎么分析这张图表的过程。你能跟上我的思路吗？虽然没有固定的公式，也没有特别明确的起始点，但我倾向于先从图表的"集合"（set）入手。我会查看这张图表属于白天还是夜晚图表，也就是他们是在白天出生的还是在夜晚出生的。如果你已经知道这些，请见谅。
So what I've got here with Yoko Ono is birth is the 18th of February 1933. Yoko Ono, she's now well, yep, she's turned 90. Unfortunately, we don't see her anymore. She is alive, but she starts from dementia. So that her son Sean manages all her affairs and hopefully that she is at peace. She's had a long and eventful life. She's had a life of tragedy. She's had a life of joys, ups and downs. She's been a performer.
这里提到的与小野洋子有关的信息如下：她出生于1933年2月18日。小野洋子现在已经90岁了。不幸的是，我们现在已经不再见到她了。她还健在，但患上了痴呆症，因此她的儿子肖恩负责处理她的一切事务。希望她能安享晚年。她的一生漫长而充满精彩，有过悲剧，也有过欢乐和高低起伏。她曾是一位表演艺术家。
So I asked her, she's been the wife of the beetle, John Lennon. She's for her own creative work into being. She's performed her own music and also Lennon's music into creation. So she's had a lot of years in her long life. So I wanted to have a look at this chart because I think it's an interesting chart. They all are interesting. Okay, so she's born during the night of 8.30 at night. So we have a son below the horizon.
我问了她，她曾是披头士成员约翰·列侬的妻子。她一直在致力于自己的创作工作。她不仅表演过自己的音乐，还将列侬的音乐重新演绎。所以，她在漫长的一生中有着丰富的经历。我想看看她的星盘，因为我觉得她的星盘很有意思。当然，所有的星盘都是有趣的。好，她是在晚上8点30分出生的，所以她的太阳星位于地平线以下。
We have the son in the last degree of Aquarius, indectimate. I don't particularly spend a lot of time working on last degrees. I don't know that they are critically important. I haven't seen a lot of work that says, well, we have to pay more attention. The only reason I would say late degrees are interesting is because of the terms or the bounds, because usually the last five degrees or four degrees of any size owned by the millifix, either by Mars or by Saturn.
我们有太阳位于水瓶座的最后几度，这是一种不确定的情况。我并不特别花很多时间研究星座的最后几度，我并不认为它们特别重要。我没有看到很多研究表明我们需要更多关注这一点。我认为晚度有趣的唯一原因是因为占星学中的界限或范围，因为通常星座的最后五度或四度通常由凶星掌管，即火星或土星。
So it's always interesting to have a look at the term rule of particular planet if it's anywhere. So we know that it's a nighttime chart. So we therefore know that the planets that are going to be most at ease. And I'm going to spend a lot of time and I know that you will have done set. I know that you know the principles. I know that you looked at how to define them, how to find them, you know, what's the first rule, what's the second rule, what's the third rule.
因此，如果某颗行星的规则出现在某处，那么查看它总是很有趣。我们知道这是一个夜间星图，因此我们可以得知哪些行星会表现得更加自在。我会花很多时间去研究，我知道你已经学过了。我知道你了解这些原则，我知道你研究过如何定义它们，如何找到它们，以及什么是第一规则、第二规则和第三规则。
But I'm hoping that I'm going to be working with you in a way that incorporates it in your delineation. It's all very well to know the theory, but you need to be thinking about how this works. So I'll be working leaning heavily into set. And for instance, if you're looking at your car, I know is chart, they're not eternal planets are going to be her main luminaries don't be her moon. So if I'm delineating this chart, first thing I'm going to probably look at is to say, what is the moon ruling on what is the moon doing in this chart.
但我希望与您合作时能将这些内容融入到您的分析中。了解理论固然重要，但更关键的是思考这些理论如何运作。因此，我会非常关注这一部分。例如，如果您在查看星盘，我明白并不是所有的行星都是主星体，在这个例子中，她的主要亮点将是月亮。所以，当我在分析这张星盘时，我首先会查看的是月亮掌管什么，以及月亮在这张星盘中扮演什么角色。
And you can see here that we have cancel in the mid heaven, we have the moon down here in Sagittarius. It's in the third house. Oh, I didn't mention that on my left hand side of the chart on the left is the placidus charts, a quadrant house system. It's very even in her chart because we have an ascended of eight degrees Libra and we have a mid heaven of nine degrees cancer. So it's very, very evenly based on those three degree increments. And you can see even as it goes around five degrees six degrees five degrees eight degrees. They're very, very evenly spaced house costs. But I will always throw a child into whole sign as well because I want to know what the movement is.
在这里你可以看到，在顶点位置我们有巨蟹座，而在射手座的月亮位于第三宫。我没有提到的是，在我的左手边是普拉西杜斯宫位系统图，它是一个象限宫位系统。在她的星盘中，这些宫位非常均匀，因为上升点是天秤座8度，而顶点是巨蟹座9度。因此，这些宫位是基于三个度数间隔非常均匀地分布的。你也可以看到，即使其他宫位的间隔也是非常均匀的，比如5度、6度、5度、8度等。但我仍然会使用整体星座系统来查看，因为我想了解行星移动的情况。
So let's go back to our not to ever plans. We've got the moon down here and it's wrong in the mid heaven now. You might kind of consider that there is a quencuncts kind of feeling between the moon in the third house and the 10th house, which is not normally Sagittarius and cancer would, you know, you look at them and think, oh, I don't know if these ballad if the moon can see this mid heaven, if it's in charge of the sign of cancer, if we've got a relationship between this, but I use the rules of antisha and contra antisha.
好的，让我们回到从未计划过的事情。我们这里有月亮，而它现在在中天的位置是错误的。你可能会觉得月亮在第三宫和第十宫之间有一种五分相的感觉，通常来说，射手座和巨蟹座不是你会立刻想到的配对。你可能会想，如果月亮主宰的是巨蟹座，它能看到这个中天吗？它们之间是否有某种关系？但我采用了对宫和反对宫的规则。
So I'm willing to say I know that the sign behind behind cancer will bring a gantissier or contra antisha and the sign opposite will bring in either an antisha or contra antisha. So I'm quite happy with the fact that the moon in Sagittarius is capable of dealing with the mid heaven and in fact the mid heaven is a very important place for yoga, I know, because this moon is in charge of the child. So we have the whole idea of her direction is driven by this moon, her desire to be out there and to be physically engaged with the world is concerned with this 10th house that this moon is wanting to use some sort of service also or care statement, a nourishment statement that this is very important to her that not only will the MC nourish her moon, but that she gives something of service.
所以，我愿意说，我知道癌症后面的星座会带来一种跟“对冲点”相关的东西，而相对的星座会带来另一种“对冲点”相关的东西。所以，我对于月亮位于射手座能够处理天顶这一事实感到满意。实际上，天顶在瑜伽中是一个非常重要的位置，因为月亮负责引导孩子。因此，我们可以理解她的方向是由这颗月亮驱动的，她渴望与世界互动，身体力行地参与到其中，这与这颗月亮所在的第十宫有关。同时，她也希望通过某种服务或关怀的形式表达，这对她来说很重要。不仅天顶滋养她的月亮，她也会提供一些服务。
So that's the relationship I would say between the moon in Sagittarius and the mid heaven. Now, one of the things that I will be teaching in detail, I know that you have a course on Moon Kai, but if we come across it in a chart, I'm not going to look the other way and I will say for yoga, I know that her moon in Sagittarius is Moon Kai in contention. So if you haven't come across contention before, I will say this is a nocturnal planet, the moon, it's in a sign of Sagittarius Sagittarius belongs to Jupiter. So the moon is in a sign which belongs to planet from the opposite sect.
我会这样说，月亮在射手座和天顶之间的关系就是如此。现在，我将会详细教授的其中一个内容是，我知道你有一门关于月亮在凯星座（Moon Kai）的课程，但如果我们在星盘中遇到这个情况，我不会视而不见。我会说，对于瑜伽（占星术的一种），我知道她在射手座的月亮在与凯星座的相争状态。所以如果你之前没有遇到过"相争"，我想说的是这是一个夜行星（月亮），它位于射手座，而射手座是属于木星的，所以月亮在一个属于相反象星体的星座中。
Now, there's a lot of this that's coming out now in the translations about same sect rejoicing. It's a term that's being used, Benjamin Dykes uses it, uses it, Robert Schmidt used it in this idea of same sect rejoicing is to say, we belong in the same sect, we are going to get along. So even though I might say, wow, okay, the sun is in the sign of Quarius, it's in detriment, we know that it's opposite the sign of Leo, but its dispositor is Saturn. So we would say that the sun is in the same sect rejoicing situation because it's in a sign which belongs to another dyono plant.
现在，关于“同类欢庆”的翻译有很多讨论。这是一个术语，被Benjamin Dykes和Robert Schmidt使用。这个术语的意思可以理解为，我们属于同一类别，因此我们会相处得很好。即使我可能会说，哇，太阳位于水瓶座，它在这个位置上是失势的，因为它与狮子座相对，但它的主宰行星是土星。因此，我们可以说太阳处于“同类欢庆”的状态，因为它位于另一个行星主宰的星座中。
So we know that even though the sun is in detriment, we know that the sun is rejoicing because the planet which is looking after it is going to be Saturn. And then we look at Saturn and Saturn is in all the ships so it's strong. So we know that there's a good relationship between Saturn and the sun in this chart, and this is something that is missing for the moon. It's not in a sign that belongs to a nocturnal planet, it's not in the sign of Venus, it's not in the sign of Mars, it's not even in the sign of Mercury, which is behind the sun here, and is a nocturnal Mercury.
所以我们知道，即使太阳在不利的位置，我们也知道太阳是快乐的，因为照顾它的行星是土星。然后我们观察土星，土星处于强势位置，所以我们知道在这个星盘中，土星和太阳之间有良好的关系。而对于月亮来说，这种关系是缺失的。月亮不在属于夜行星的位置上，它不在金星的位置，也不在火星的位置，甚至不在水星的位置。水星在这里落后于太阳，而且是夜行的水星。
It's in the sign of Jupiter. So we have this kind of upset for the moon already that then has to go, okay, you're my dispositor, you come from a different place, you come from a different mindset, you come from a different set. And then we go to Jupiter and we say, what's happening to Jupiter? First of all, we know it's in Virgo, so we know that it is in detriment, it's in the sign belonging to Mercury, and we know that it's raw sugar Pisces and that Virgo is opposite that we can see that it's retrograde.
这在木星的星座中。所以我们已经看到月亮因此感到不安，因为它想，好的，你是我的支配者，你从不同的地方来，有着不同的思维方式，不同的背景。然后我们关注木星，看看它的情况。首先，我们知道它在处女座，所以它处于不利位置，因为这是属于水星的星座。我们还知道它的本位星座是双鱼座，而处女座与之相对，我们可以看到它是在逆行中。
So we're starting to see some wobbly things here for the moon, we're starting to see cross-exec, we're starting to see its dispositor is in detriment, we're starting to see its dispositor is retrograde. And then when we look at Mercury, this wouldn't be a problem for the moon if Mercury was in front of the sun, if it rose before the sun, but it's not, it's around here and it's behind the sun. So we have the problem that Mercury is nocturnal, we go from a nocturnal planet, the moon to a diurnal planet, Jupiter, detriment, retrograde, to a nocturnal planet over here.
我们发现月亮的状态有些不稳定。我们注意到分管星的位置不利，而且还是逆行。接着，看水星的情况，如果水星在太阳前方升起，月亮的问题本不会那么严重，但实际上水星刚好在太阳后面。这样就出现了一个问题，即水星是夜行星，我们从月亮这个夜行星，过渡到日行星木星，再到位置不利且逆行的夜行星。
So we use the word that our Barunis translation uses that talks about contention, there is something contentious about this moon, so we know that something contentious, not just about the third house moon, but about the house that it rules, something about Yoko Ono's career is contentious. It upsets people, it challenges them, it unnerves them, it makes them feel uncomfortable, it's all of these things, and it's nothing that she's doing, although sometimes there is that sense of untaking this action because out of her work and her artwork was really about unsettling people when she did her performance art. Now, performance art is a type of art, which is, which was very, very popular in the 60s and the 70s, and probably still is around, but it was this idea of an artist expressing themselves and bringing the audience with them and saying, I want you to participate, I want you to be part of this act.
我们使用巴鲁尼斯翻译中提到的词来描述争议，这个月亮上确实有一些争议，不仅仅与第三宫的月亮有关，还与它所代表的宫位有关，约翰·列侬的妻子小野洋子（Yoko Ono）的事业就有争议。她的事业让人感到不安、挑战和不适，但并不是因为她的某些主动行为，而是她的艺术作品，尤其是当她进行行为表演时，确实意在引起不安。行为艺术是一种艺术形式，在60年代和70年代非常流行，也许现在仍然存在。这种艺术的理念是艺术家通过表演激发自我表达，并邀请观众参与其中，一起体验和成为表现的一部分。
So there are certain acts that she had, which were very confrontational, I'll talk about them at the end of this, but there was a sense of saying, this is artwork, this is not strange, this is not weird, this is how you perceive something creative. So there was always that part of Yoko Ono's work, that was a little bit different, a little bit confrontational, and a little bit disturbing for an audience, and that's where this moon comes into. The moon also, because we're talking about the moon here, we're also aware that there's a statement here about her mother and her relationship with her mother, not just because we have the moon here, and we know it's in contention, but because we have the temp house, which is the most house now.
有一些她的作品是非常具有对抗性的，虽然我会在最后再具体谈这些，但总体上她传达的信息是：这是艺术，不是奇怪或怪异之物，这是一种创造性表达。因此，约翰·奥诺的作品中总有一些部分显得有些不同，有些对抗性，有些让观众感到不安。而这也是月亮的象征所在。这里提到月亮时，我们也能感受到她关于母亲以及与母亲关系的表达，这不仅仅是因为月亮的存在，还因为我们现在的重点是“第十宫”，它是我们现在最关注的领域。
One of the things I'm going to be teaching in the course coming up this year is I'll be focusing on parents, or I'll be focusing on the family, or be focusing on the children, or all the bits and pieces that bring together a family. So this is part of what we will look at when we're looking at them, we're concentrating on that first unit that we do, and we're talking about parents, so we'll spend a lot more time on this, we will be looking at it and saying, okay, how do we define it, where do we put it, all the rest of it. So I'm just kind of gliding over this a little bit so that you're following hopefully how I would look at this child and how I would interpret it, Yoko Ono's child in this way.
今年课程中我要教的一部分内容将集中在家庭成员上，包括父母、家庭整体、子女，或者是构成家庭的各种因素。所以这是我们在第一单元中会重点研究的部分，我们会先考虑父母这一主题，会花更多时间探讨，例如如何定义，如何定位等等。我现在只是简略介绍一下，希望你能理解我对孩子以及如何解读小野洋子的孩子的看法。
So I know that this is mother's house, the temp house, and that the planet really is the moon mother, and that there is contention here. Yoko Ono's mother was a very high society in Japanese world. She was a traditional woman, she was a traditional wife, she spoke different dialects, she was education highly educated, she played traditional instruments, she wore traditional dress, she was, she was an icon for her generation. So to have this thirst burn born daughter, who was so different, who was so confrontational, who was an embarrassment, her was part of the reason why the mother and the daughter were strange for years, they couldn't get along, they couldn't find common ground.
我了解这是母亲的家，一个临时的居所，而这颗星球其实是月亮之母，并且这里存在矛盾。小野洋子的母亲在日本社会中是非常上层的名流。她是一个传统的女性，一个传统的妻子，她能讲多种方言，受过很高的教育，演奏传统乐器，穿着传统服饰，是她那一代人的偶像。因此，生下这样一个截然不同、具有对抗性且让人难堪的女儿，部分原因导致母女关系多年来变得疏远，她们无法和睦相处，也无法找到共同点。
Yoko wanted to be accepted desperately by her mother, but her mother would say, would kind of say, well, you know, if you were just a beautiful daughter, if you were just the house, if you were just to what you're told, if you didn't do all these, our landish, our rages, things, then it wouldn't be a problem. But that's not Yoko. Okay, so I'll concentrate on the moon. Now, if there's no direction, if there's no spread for the moon, if there's no, nowhere to go from there, I will probably go to a different planet, but you can see that there's a lot of contact this moon has across the chart.
洋子非常渴望得到母亲的接受，但她的母亲会说，你知道吗，如果你只是一个漂亮的女儿，只是在家里做好本分，只要听话，不去做那些莫名其妙和令人费解的事情，那就没问题了。但这并不是洋子。那么，我就专注于月亮。现在，如果没有方向，如果月亮没有扩展空间，如果没有从那儿继续发展的可能，我可能会转向另一个星球，但你会发现这个月亮在图表上有很多联系。
Aspect wise, what it's doing here is it is set to style Venus. And so we have the sex to between the moon and the feminine Venus. So we have this lovely connection between the Lord of the mid-heaven, which is the moon and the Lord of the ascendant, which is Venus. And this is part of her artwork and also part of why with Yoko, some of her best work was in collaboration, was working with somebody else, whether it was a musical car or musical collaboration, working with another musician, whether it was an artistic collaboration, it was about the work brought out the best in Yoko, owner was meshing her work with another medium, but with another person with different ideas.
从某个方面来看，这里是通过风格化金星来实现某种效果。因此，我们看到月亮和女性化的金星之间形成了一个良好的联系。月亮是中天的主宰，而金星是上升点的主宰，这两者之间的连接非常美好。这也成为她艺术作品的一部分，并解释了为什么约翰·列侬的妻子小野洋子有些最佳作品来自于合作。不论是音乐领域与其他音乐家合作，还是艺术领域的合作，与他人及不同的创意结合总能引导出小野洋子最出色的一面。
So she worked best, even though satan is conjunct the Venus and she believed that she was better on her own during these things, she worked so much better when she worked in collaboration with other people. So we've also got another two angled nords here. So this sextile brings in the moon, the Lord of the mid-heaven, the satan, the other side of the mid-heaven, the IC at the bottom, Venus, which rules the ascendant. So we have this connection here between all of them and we also have a sextile on the other side to the Mars, which is the moon is 11 degrees and the moon is touching Mars at 15 degrees of burger.
因此，她最擅长的工作是合作，即使土星在金星附近，她也认为在这些事情上自己独立会更好，但实际上，她发现在与他人合作时效果更佳。我们这里还有另外两个角度节点。这个六合相位连接了月亮、中天之主、土星以及在中天另一侧的天底和掌管上升点的金星。因此，这里在它们之间有一个联系，同时在另一侧还有一个六合到火星，月亮在11度，而月亮与位于处女座15度的火星相接。
So we have this, this sorry, not this sextile, the square between the mutables. So we've got contact here between all of these four lords and this is a very active job if you're going to get that, if you're going to have all these lords contacting each other and having relationships and conversations with each other, then you're going to have a lot of activity, you're going to have a lot of movement here and you're going to have a lot of results and a very full life and a lot of choices for this person to go one mile the other. So that connection between satan and Venus and the connection for the moon and the square to the Mars. Yes, there are difficulties here and probably this is part of the again, the discontent between a Yoko and her mother because we've got a square not just to the Mars, but also to the Neptune.
所以，我们有这个，对不起，不是六合，而是变动星座之间的四分相。所有这四颗星的主宰之间有联系，这是一项非常活跃的工作。如果你要让所有这些星相主宰彼此接触、建立关系和交流，那么你会有很多活动、很多变化，并会有很多结果。这种情况会让这个人有一个非常充实的生活，以及很多选择来决定走向哪一边。在这其中，土星和金星之间有联系，月亮和火星的四分相也有联系。是的，这里存在一些困难，可能这也是约科和她母亲之间不满的部分原因，因为我们看到的不仅是与火星的四分相，还有与海王星的四分相。
So we have this kind of, you know, boundaryless kind of sometimes aggressive relationship between mother and child here and a competitive kind of them. So we have a very traditional mother on one side and we have a child who is breaking into the world and doing all the things and in some ways as much as I'm sure mother was happy be traditional. There's also when you've seen Mars and the moon connected this a little bit of envy sometimes there's a little bit of in you know if I was born in this generation, I might have a bit more freedom. I might have the ability to do some of the things that you do. I might be able to express myself differently, all the sorts of things can be part of that Mars moon.
所以我们在这里看到母子之间存在一种无边界、有时甚至是有些激进的关系，同时也存在一种竞争。他们一方是非常传统的母亲，另一方是正在探索世界、做各种事情的孩子。尽管母亲可能很高兴保持传统，但在某种程度上，看到火星和月亮的这种连接，有时也会产生一些嫉妒心。如果她出生在这个年代，她可能会有更多的自由，可以做一些孩子正在做的事情，也许还能以不同的方式表达自己。这些都是火星和月亮关系中的一部分。
And when you've got the Neptune, there's always this little bit of a clang in kind of disharmoning between who's the parent, who's the child, how do we define the roles. No, are we relying on each other too much are we are we kind of expecting and projecting images onto each other. But all these things are potentially there when you've got the relationship to the moon and the nature. So you've got those sort of things you've got the moon sex darling the Lords, you've got the moon also sex darling the ascendant so it is part of the relationship between the center and the descendants are not only do you have the Lord of the ascendant connected to the moon but we have the ascendant itself.
当涉及到海王星时，总会有一些不和谐的地方，比如在确定谁是父母、谁是孩子，以及如何定义角色时存在的冲突。还可能会产生过度依赖彼此、对对方产生预期和投射形象的问题。所有这些问题在与月亮和本质的关系中都有可能出现。月亮与上升星座的守护星有着和谐美好的关系，同时月亮也和上升星座本身有联系。因此，这种关系不仅仅涉及到上升星座的守护星与月亮的连接，还包括上升星座本身的影响。
So we have this moon as a very, very active. I know that we often talk about the moon as the third house I'm sorry as being the house that is about my local environment, it's communication you know it's it's kind of this idea that the third house is a place of where I wander around very familiar with it and I take short journeys and you know nothing nothing to untoward happens or nothing to surprising happens. Because I'm very familiar with this space. Okay, that's true, but the other thing that the third house is very important for is that even without the moon there the sign on the third house particular whole sign and even here and pass it us we have a sex doll between the ascendant and between the third house sign so we have Libra on the center and we have Sagittarius there.
所以我们认为这个月亮是非常活跃的。我们常常把月亮与第三宫联系在一起，对不起，我想说的是，我们通常把月亮视为关于本地环境的宫位。它代表交流，你知道，这种感觉就像第三宫是一个我非常熟悉的地方，我在其中游走，进行短途旅行，没有什么出格或意外的事情发生，因为我对这个空间非常熟悉。没错，但第三宫另一个重要的方面是，即使月亮不在那，第三宫上的星座特别是整个星座也很重要。在这种情况下，我们有一个六分相连接上升点和第三宫的星座，因此我们在上升宫有天秤座，而第三宫则是射手座。
We have Libra on the center and Sagittarius there. If I'm going to talk about all my physical skills in the first house this is my body this is how I move around the environment this is how I understand where everything is and how I put forward what I want how I imprint on the environment how I change the world around me. I know that if I have a connection with the third house I have certain physical skills I know that I can move through the world and I'm going to be alright and I can do things that are so unconscious this is where we have the idea of the third house being the act of the unconscious it's not that you're unconscious of communicating is the fact that you've learnt patterns that you're not even thinking about you're not even thinking about it.
我们有天秤座在中心，射手座在那边。如果我要谈论我在第一宫所有的身体技能，那就是我的身体，这就是我在环境中移动的方式，这就是我如何理解每样东西的位置，以及我如何表达我的愿望，如何在环境中留下印记，如何改变我周围的世界。我知道如果我与第三宫有联系，我就具备一些身体技能，我知道自己可以顺利在这个世界中移动，我可以做一些非常无意识的事情，这就是为什么我们认为第三宫与无意识的行动有关。并不是说你在进行交流时没有意识，而是因为你已经学会了一些不用思考就能做的模式。
You're not even thinking about how you drive a car when you get into a car you're not even thinking about how you eat when you pick up your knife or fork or whether you know the the ways in which you which you put your life together which which thought you put the shoe on first all these sorts of things are third house things because we've learnt them as children. That we struggle with the when we were children and then usually by the time we five we know all the things we need to know about how to feed ourselves how to find a toilet how to ask for food how to ask for a jump or if we're cold how to how to express to the world what does it we need to feel comfortable.
当你进入汽车时，你甚至不会去想如何驾驶；当你拿起刀叉时，你也不会去想如何进食，或者你是先穿哪只鞋。这些都是我们在小时候学到的基本技能。在我们小的时候，这些技能可能会让我们感到困扰，但通常到了五岁左右，我们便已经掌握了所有需要知道的事情：如何喂饱自己、如何找到厕所、如何请求食物、感到冷时如何要求加衣，或者如何向外界表达我们需要什么来感到舒适。
So when we find the moon in the third house it's in its house of joy here it loves the third house it says I'm pretty good here I can use my skills of my body and my moon and my emotions and all these sorts of things without feeling as if I can't express myself even the moon in my heart is still in its joy in the third house. So not only do we have the connection to the ascendant law the connection to the ascendant the connection to the descendant but also have the connection to Mercury and Mercury is not in a great state here it's in the fifth house here of my creative world in the class of us but because it's in Pisces it's going to move to the sixth sign in the whole sign. It works in both so this idea of her Mercury being connected to a moon and the moon is 11 and Mercury is seven so it's quite a tight aspect I have a square here so this is about her ability to express her emotions in a way which is unusual this is a Mercury which is unusual this is a Mercury that we see is in detriment but it's in the sign of Jupiter and we have a kind of a negative mutual reception between these two Jupiter doesn't want to be in Virgo Mercury certainly doesn't want to be in Pisces but they're each others keeper and they might not be great at it but they're each others keeper so they will look out for each other maintain to each other.
当我们发现月亮在第三宫时，这里是它快乐之地。它喜欢待在第三宫，它说：“我在这里挺不错的，我可以利用我的身体技能、月亮的能量、情感，还有各种各样的东西，而不觉得自己无法表达。”即使心中的月亮也在第三宫中感到快乐。这样一来，我们不仅仅有与上升的联系，也有与下降的联系，还有与水星的联系。尽管水星在这里状态不是很好，它在我的创意世界的第五宫，但因为它在双鱼座，所以将会移动到全盘的第六个星座。两者都能发挥作用，所以这涉及到她如何以一种不同寻常的方式表达情感。这个水星是不同寻常的，因为它在一个不利的位置，但它位于木星的星座，并且在这两者间形成了一种消极的互相接纳。木星不愿意待在处女座，而水星肯定不愿意在双鱼座，但它们是彼此的守护者，虽然不一定擅长，但它们会照顾彼此，维护彼此。
So her Mercury gives her away which is confusing and it causes some issues sometimes and of course there's a lot of emotions because Mercury Pisces will do that. But it's a very big planet because it's with the North node and the North node makes it a big planet but it still works for her MC it still works for this connection to the ascendant it still works for this one over here and what we have an opposition between the Lord of the seventh house and the Mercury over here seven to 15 or nine to 50 or to seven so the Neptune is closer to the Mercury but that gives her also that creative world that spiritual world that place where she can withdraw when things are too hard for her when perhaps mother's words are too harsh for her then that Mercury withdraws into the Neptune and it finds a creative world and it finds a world of imagination and somewhere that it can feel safe and come from there.
她的水星透露了她的内心，这有时会让人感到困惑并引发一些问题。当然，由于水星位于双鱼座，会引发很多情感。这颗行星的位置非常重要，因为它与北交点相连，而北交点使其变得更重要。尽管如此，它对她的中天（MC）仍然有帮助，也有助于她与上升点的连接。此外，我们还看到第七宫的主星与水星之间存在对冲关系，无论是七到十五，还是九到五十，或者是另一个七到某个数字的关系。海王星靠近水星，这也为她提供了一个创造性和精神性的避风港。当生活变得艰难，或许是因为母亲的言语太过苛刻时，水星会退回到海王星里，在那里找到了一个充满创意和想象力的世界，一个让她感到安全的地方。
Okay. I know that we are going to keep this short I know that I don't want to keep going with this but I do want to show you why I think it's so important and why I want to cover this when we do it is why is it so important to watch the sector but plan and I know again that you have done for Darra you've done for Darra courses with me you've done for Darra courses with Cersei and the other lecturers with Insider but I'm going to make you good at this I'm going to show you how to do this so what we're going to do is with yoga I know this is the division this is you know we get numbers we get dates we get a whole influx of lot of information with Darra but then we can start breaking it down saying okay I'm going to put this over here so it's not in the way.
好的。我知道我们要保持简短，我也不想继续拖延下去，但我确实想告诉你，为什么我认为这件事如此重要，以及为什么我想在我们进行这个过程时讨论它。就是为什么关注这个领域非常重要，但同时也要做好计划。我知道你和我、Cersei以及其他与Insider的讲师一起参与过Darra课程，我要让你在这方面变得优秀。我要告诉你如何做到这一点。我们要做的事情是，结合瑜伽，我知道这是一个方面，我们从Darra那里获取大量的信息，包括数字和日期，但之后我们可以开始分析，把信息分类，以免干扰我们的计划。
Okay what if we would have break down these seven periods into Stafford childhood Brown staff for the low ones Pink staff for the romantic associations success is read revival when I come back creative collaboration with others and this has been very much the story of yoga owners life. You know this childhood her moving from Japan to America without her father she didn't meet her father until she was two years old because he was working somewhere else and she was living somewhere else so we have this idea that her childhood was very much impressed on by her mother. Her mother and the servants her mother was very busy social woman she didn't sing much of her except for the direction and her education of she had to have piano lessons when she was four years old she had to learn the language when she's very young she had to learn not just the Japanese language but several dialects because that's what her mother could do she had to learn instruments not just the piano but the traditional instruments.
好的，我们可以把这七个时间段分解为斯塔福德的童年，布朗是低谷期的代表，粉色代表浪漫关系的稳定期，红色代表事业成功，复活则象征着她的回归，与他人的创造性合作贯穿了她的大半生。举例来说，莜嘉（这是一个假设的名字）的童年，她从日本搬到美国时并没有跟父亲在一起，因为父亲在其他地方工作，她直到两岁才见到自己的父亲，所以她的童年更多地受到母亲的影响。莜嘉的母亲是一位忙于社交的女性，大部分时间她都由母亲和家里佣人照料。她母亲虽然很忙，但非常重视她的教育。从小莜嘉就得学钢琴，四岁开始上钢琴课；她还得学习多种语言，不仅仅是日语，还包括几个地方方言，因为这些是她母亲希望的。除此之外，她还得学习多种乐器，包括传统乐器，而不仅仅是钢琴。
So this was a very intensive time about being directed by mother, but more about being directed by mother to be the perfect child than to be a child. You know, she was brought up by servants. She really saw her mother. She might have seen her for an hour a day. So her loving, caring people were people who were employed to care for her, to see to her needs. And not necessarily to give her love and to give her support and to give her security. So straight away we know that that moon, which Worry said, is in a state of mankind, intention. Already we have kind of nine years where this child feels like she's abandoned by the mother or that mother is a stranger.
所以，这段时间主要是母亲对我提出严格的要求，但更多的是想让我成为完美的孩子，而不是单纯的孩子。你知道，她是由仆人们抚养长大的，几乎见不到自己的母亲。她每天可能只和母亲见一小时。所以她身边关心她、照顾她的人都是被雇来照顾她需要的人，而不一定给她爱、支持和安全感。因此，我们马上就知道，就像Worry所说的，那个月亮处于人类意图的状态。已经过了大约九年的时间，这个孩子感觉自己被母亲抛弃了，或者觉得母亲是个陌生人。
Now what we get is sat and comes in. So this is the second period. Now her mother and now three children is a brother born and there's a sister born. These three children move from America back to Japan because we have the years of the second world war and things are starting to get very hostile in America for anyone born with Japanese heritage. So we have the idea there in Tokyo and I put the low point in here because these are the years, the 11 years of sat in this period where they were in Tokyo, where the war was on, where after Pearl Harbor, Tokyo was being bombed constantly.
现在，我们得到的是定下来并到来的。因此，这是第二个时期。现在，她的母亲和三个孩子——一个男孩和一个女孩——出生了。这三个孩子从美国搬回了日本，因为第二次世界大战期间，任何有日本血统的人在美国的生活开始变得非常困难。可以想象，他们在东京生活，我把这一段时期称为低谷，因为这段以东京为家的11年里，正值战争期间，珍珠港事件后，东京遭受了持续的轰炸。
There was not enough food, the buildings were collapsing, 100,000 people died in a short period of something like six months, it was horrific. And her mother gathered her children, her three children, put them in a wheelbarrow, took everything that they could and marched for miles up into the mountains in the hope that they would survive up there, that there would be food and there would be shelter, but the mountain people, there wasn't enough for them. So we have this idea that these were periods, this sat and period for Yoko Ono was a period of being hungry.
食物不够，建筑物在倒塌，十万人在大约六个月的短时间内去世，这场景令人震惊。她的母亲把她的三个孩子放进推车，带上所有能带的东西，步行数英里到山里，希望在那里能活下来，能找到食物和栖身之处。但是，山里的人也没有足够的资源。因此，我们了解到，对于小野洋子来说，那段时期就是挨饿的日子。
It was a period at last of about two years. It was actually in the sat and mass period here where there was not food, there was not shelter and it was terrifying for this child to be in a state where all the things that the moon would need are being taken away from. This is two marriages here. In the Jupiter period, her first marriage, which she moved to America, her second marriage after the first marriage collapsed and she returned to Japan and she was in such a poor state.
这段时期大约持续了两年。这实际上是在土星和木星年间，这段时间没有食物、没有住所，对这个孩子来说，生活在一个所有生存所需的东西都被夺走的环境中是非常可怕的。这里提到了两段婚姻。在木星年间，她有了第一次婚姻，并搬到了美国；当第一次婚姻失败后，她返回了日本，并在那里经历了第二次婚姻，当时她的状况非常糟糕。
Now remember that this is the Jupiter which is retrograde. This is the Jupiter which is in square to the moon. This is the Jupiter which is in detriment. What happened to Yoko Ono was that she couldn't cope with the collapse of her first marriage. She married very young, her parents didn't approve of the man that she chose and she thought that she could find refuge if she returned to Japan because that's where her parents had her father had retired and she thought that she could stay at her family home and just look over it.
请记住，这是逆行的木星。这是与月亮呈四分相的木星。这是处于弱势状态的木星。约翰·列侬的妻子小野洋子出现问题的原因是她无法应对她第一次婚姻的破裂。她结婚时非常年轻，她父母并不赞成她选择的那位男士。她认为如果回到父母退休后居住的日本，就能找到一个避风港。她以为自己可以留在家中，只要照看一下家庭事务就好了。
She had such chronic bouts of depression that her parents convinced her to make them her legal guardian and they against her will, they put her into an institution and they wouldn't release her, they wouldn't let her go. They wouldn't, yes, she looked like she was going to stay there and she said let her back, this is again Jupiter in Virgo, she said let her's back to America begging for help, there her friends back there and eventually a film producer came to Japan, smuggled her out of the institution, put her on a plane, flew her back to America with him and she married him.
她长期受到抑郁症的困扰，以至于她的父母说服她让他们成为她的法定监护人。尽管她不愿意，他们还是把她送到了一个机构，并且不肯放她走。看起来她会一直留在那里，她请求回去。再说一次，这是因为她的处女座木星，她请求让她回到美国，向她的朋友们求助。最终，一位电影制片人去了日本，把她偷偷带出机构，送上飞机，带她回到美国，并和她结婚了。
So this was the second marriage and we have a relative amount of success then. She then starts to put all that energy into what happens into her into this performance art. This is why some of her performance art is so jarring, it's so confrontational because of these experiences, it's very, very hard for her to deal with this because of what's happened before this Jupiter. The Mars period is John Lennon's marriage, the collaboration with John Lennon, the low point where she has a child with her second husband, this is the marriage of Jupiter.
这是她的第二段婚姻，可以说取得了一定的成功。然后，她开始把所有精力投入到自己的行为艺术中。这也是为什么她的一些行为艺术作品会让人感到震惊和对抗，因为这些经历使她很难应对。这是由于在这之前发生的事情，以及她与约翰·列侬的合作，在这段婚姻的谷底阶段，她与第二任丈夫生了孩子。这就是所谓的木星的婚姻。
In the Mars period, he smuggles the child, a daughter away from her, he sits a judge, she tells a judge that she was in depression state and he says to her from Japan, therefore she can't be a fit mother and he disappears and he goes into a cult, a religious cult and she doesn't see her daughter for years. So we have this low point here, but we also have the creative point where she comes back, the green one is the revival and she comes back with John Lennon, she collaborates with them and she sees success.
在火星时期，他把她的女儿偷偷带走，他坐在法官面前，而她告诉法官自己曾处于抑郁状态，他就以此为由，说由于她在日本，因此不能成为一个合格的母亲。然后，他消失了，加入了一个宗教邪教，她多年都没有见到她的女儿。这里是她人生的低谷，但同样也是一个创造的时刻，她回来了，绿色的象征着复苏。她和约翰·列侬合作，并取得了成功。
So we have all this sort of idea that we can look at these fedareas and I know that we have looked these before, but we're going to focus on them a lot more as we go through this process of what we're doing this year because we've got time to do it. So we will do this in the sessions that I record, we will do this in the live sessions and we'll look at people's charts and then take them through this process of predictive. There's no way in traditional astrology that a practicing astrologer would not have gone from the native to the predictive and this seems to be a bridge that doesn't happen in modern so much.
所以我们有这样的想法，可以查看这些“fedareas”。我知道我们之前已经看过这些，但今年我们要更加专注于此，因为我们有时间去深入研究。因此，在我录制的课程中，我们会这样做，在直播课程中也会进行这种分析。我们会查看每个人的星盘，并带他们进行预测的过程。在传统占星术中，实践中的占星师一定会从本命盘分析到预测盘，而这似乎是现代占星中不太常见的一种衔接。
There's almost this sense of we're just going to talk about your chart and that's the end of it we're done. But in traditional work you couldn't do one without the other, it was like being blinded. So this is one method we will use, we'll use others, but as you can tell I'm very passionate about this and I really want my students, any students to be able to do this, to be able to look at the chart and be able to process the information and then take the information and put it into this level.
这句话表达了一个观点，就是我们几乎有一种感觉，就是我们只是要讨论一下你的图表，然后就结束了，这就是全部。但在传统的工作中，两者是不可分割的，就像蒙着眼睛一样。因此，这是一种我们将要使用的方法，我们还会使用其他方法，但正如你可以看出来的，我对这件事非常有热情。我真的希望我的学生，任何学生都能够做到这一点：能够看懂图表，处理信息，然后将信息提升到这个层次。
The other thing we're going to spend time on is we're going to look at combustion and not just what combustion is and how to identify it but how do you delineate it and this is something new that I've been working on and we'll also be going through checklists like this that says, okay this is how we do fedaria but this will relate to the native chart.
另一件我们要花时间研究的事情是燃烧。我们不仅要了解燃烧是什么以及如何识别它，还要学习如何对其进行区分。这是我一直在研究的新课题。我们还会使用类似这样的清单，比如说，这就是我们如何进行推运，这将会与本命盘相关联。
So please join me, I'm very excited and I hope that you'll join me. Thank you very much. Bye.
请加入我吧，我非常激动，希望你能加入。非常感谢，再见。