I ranked every AI Coder: Bolt vs. Cursor vs. Replit vs Lovable

Okay, Mickey, what are we talking about today? So today we're going to talk about what tool you can use to get what job done from the perspective of who you are as a person. I think a lot of people have a lot of great videos, especially on this channel, on how to use the different tools to build, but which one should you use? That's what we're going to talk about. The start of my discordance It's different time, baby. This is the episode that everyone needs, because we're all looking at these tweet threads that's like, bolt is the new replica. Replit is the new Figma. Cursor is going to kill this, you know? But we're just going to take an unbiased look around the pros and cons of each AI coding tool and let you make the decision on what you should be using and why. Exactly. And yeah, so the tools, I guess, that we're going to talk about are these, bolts, lovable, V0, tempo, replit, on look, windsurf, cursor.

好的，米奇，今天我们要谈什么？今天我们将讨论从你个人的角度出发，选择使用哪种工具来完成哪种工作。我认为很多人在这个频道上都有制作关于如何使用不同工具的视频，但我们要讨论的是，你应该选择哪一种工具。这是一个很重要的话题，因为我们总是看到各种推文，比如“Bolt是新的Replica”、“Replit是新的Figma”、“Cursor将取代某某工具”等等。但我们会以公正的态度分析每个AI编程工具的优缺点，让你自己决定应该使用哪个工具以及原因。没错，我们计划讨论的工具包括：Bolt、Lovable、V0、Tempo、Replit、On Look、Windsurf和Cursor。

Now, I've used all of these tools extensively. I would like to say I've either paid for them or I have maxed out their daily free tiers quite often. So I know there's probably other up and coming tools that maybe people are talking about and like Greg said, are tweet threads. But these are the ones I can sort of feel comfortable sharing exactly what I think. Greg, is that cool? Let's hit the. Let's go. All right, so there's three big divisions or cohorts I like to think of. There's the sort of no code. You don't have to be technical to use this tool. And then there are the middle ground tools where you can be someone who doesn't know how to program, but you can also be someone who knows how to write code. And these platforms are good for you.

现在，我已经广泛使用了所有这些工具。我想说，要么我为它们付过费，要么我经常用到他们每天的免费额度。所以，我知道可能还有一些正在崭露头角、大家在谈论的工具，正如Greg所说，它们可能涉及到推特线程。但是这些工具是我可以放心分享我真实想法的。Greg，这样可以吗？我们开始吧。好，有三个主要的分类或群体，我喜欢这样思考。第一类是所谓的“零代码”工具，使用这些工具不需要技术背景。然后是中间地带的工具，适合那些既不懂编程的人，同时也适合懂编程的人。

And then there's this straight up technical AI tools, right? Like windsurf and cursor, which are more so meant for developers and programmers. But then you do have like the dudes like Riley who will max use cursor like he was a developer, but he's not. So it doesn't mean you can't use any of these tools, but I would say that these tools are sort of for a specific person. And that's what I'm going to share with you. So there's two big things I think people need to think about when picking a tool, control and how technical they are, right? If we were to map out all the tools in this like beautiful line chart that, you know, the farther along the line we go, the more control you have, I would say lovable is at the left side where you don't have much control instead of in terms of like you can't really edit the code.

然后还有一些完全是技术性的AI工具，对吧？比如Windsurf和Cursor，这些工具主要是为开发者和程序员设计的。不过，也有像Riley这样的人会像开发者一样充分利用Cursor，尽管他不是开发者。所以，这并不意味着你不能使用这些工具，但我认为这些工具是为特定的人群设计的。这就是我要和你分享的内容。我认为选择工具时，人们需要考虑两个重要因素：控制权和技术能力。如果我们把所有的工具绘制在一个漂亮的线图上，图上的位置越靠右，你的控制力就越大。我会说，Lovable是在左侧，因为它的控制力不大，你不能真正编辑代码。

And that is, you know, I think that's purposely done. And that's a feature in it of itself. And if you're someone who's not technical at all or has no grasp of programming, that works well. And then you have stuff like both and V zero, which kind of give you access to the code. You can tweak the code. You can make changes. Replied, I would say is more further than that because Replic gives you more control in terms of like creating files and all that type, all those type of things. And then you have tempo labs and on look, which I know are not the most popular ones. On look is great for technical people or semi technical people who suck at design.

这段话的大致意思是： 我认为这是有意为之，这本身就是一个特点。如果你完全不是技术人员或者对编程没有概念，那也挺好。然后你有一些像 both 和 V zero 这样的工具，它们让你可以访问代码，进行修改和调整。我觉得 Reply 走得更远，因为 Replic 给你更多的控制权，比如创建文件等等。而 Tempo Labs 和 On Look —— 我知道它们不是最流行的工具。On Look 对于那些在设计方面欠缺的技术人员或半技术人员来说是很好的选择。

It's a great AI tool where you can like get your landing pages that look good done very well and you get the code. And in tempo labs, I would say is like a lovable meets, Figma meets a code editor, right? And one of the big features I like about tempo is that you kind of can edit the components and the pages like it was Figma, which is great. And then the ultimate control, obviously, is cursor and windsurf because you have access to the code right there. You can change the code, edit the code, install packages however you want.

这是一款很棒的人工智能工具，可以帮助你创建外观漂亮、效果很好的落地页，还能获取其代码。在我看来，Tempo Labs就像是一个集成了可爱的接口、Figma设计工具和代码编辑器的应用。Tempo的一个很大特点是，你可以像使用Figma一样编辑组件和页面，这非常方便。而且，在Tempo中最大的自由度是使用Cursor和Windsurf，因为你能直接访问代码，可以随意更改、编辑代码，甚至安装各种包。

So you have to think of what level control are you desiring and kind of guessing what Greg's audience looks like, what most of you guys look like. I would say you're somewhere in this sphere, right? I don't know if you're super technical. So if someone was in super technical, I wouldn't recommend cursor or windsurf. But then again, you have dudes like Riley who prove otherwise, right? I will say it will be more simpler experience using tools on this side of the spectrum.

所以你得考虑你想要什么程度的控制，然后猜测Greg的听众大概是什么样子，我猜你们大多数人应该属于这个范围，对吧？我不知道你们是否非常精通技术。如果有人在技术上非常精通，我就不会推荐使用Cursor或Windsurf这种工具。但另一方面，像Riley这样的人又证明了另一个可能性。我会说，使用这一侧的工具会提供更简单的体验。

So that's the first thing, think about control. And I know I briefly mentioned this, but when you put yourself on a technical, if you were to put yourself on a technical line, most people would land here on the left side. So V0, Reppler, Tempo Labs, Bold, Lovable, you shouldn't have any issue using. They're pretty straightforward and pretty simple. On look, I would say is for the more technical, semi, technical people and then cursor and windsurf is for the technical folks.

所以首先要考虑的是控制。我知道我之前简单提到过这一点，如果用技术水平来划分自己的位置，大部分人会落在左侧。像V0、Reppler、Tempo Labs、Bold、Lovable这些工具，你应该不会有使用上的问题，它们相当直接且简单。On look适合中等技术水平的人使用，而Cursor和Windsurf则更适合技术水平较高的人。

But then again, if you are someone who's non-technical, you can definitely use cursor and windsurf, but be ready to experience a lot of pain, a lot of blocks, a lot of debugging, and probably a lot of reading and trying to understand how certain things work, right? And I just wanna make this disclaimer again, so nobody hates me, just because you're not technical, it doesn't mean you can't use any of these tools, you can use whatever you want, it's a free world, but I would sort of stick to this side of things.

但是话说回来，如果你是一个非技术人士，你当然可以使用游标和风帆冲浪，但要准备好经历很多困难，遇到很多障碍，需要大量调试，并且可能需要大量阅读并试着理解某些东西是如何运作的，对吧？我再次声明这一点，不想让任何人因为不是技术人员就不喜欢我，这并不意味着你不能使用这些工具。你可以使用任何你想用的工具，这是一个自由的世界，但我个人会倾向于在这方面保持谨慎。

Does that make sense so far, Greg, before I continue on, like the technical and control aspect? It really does, but I have a question. Quick break in the pod to tell you a little bit about startup empire. So startup empire is my private membership where it's a bunch of people like me, like you, who wanna build out their startup ideas. Now they're looking for content to help accelerate that, they're looking for potential co-founders, they're looking for tutorials from people like me to come in and tell them, how do you do email marketing, how do you build an audience, how do you go viral on Twitter, all these different things? That's exactly what startup empire is.

在我继续讲解技术和控制方面的问题之前，Greg，这些内容到目前为止你明白了吗？真的明白了，不过我有个问题。先暂时打断一下，给你介绍一下"创业帝国"。这个"创业帝国"是我的一个私人会员项目，汇聚了一群像我、像你这样想要实现自己创业想法的人。现在，他们在寻找能够加速他们创业进程的内容，寻找潜在的合伙人，寻找像我这样的人提供的教程，比如如何进行邮件营销、如何建立受众群体、如何在推特上走红等等。这正是"创业帝国"所提供的。

And it's for people who wanna start a startup but are looking for ideas, or it's for people who have a startup, but just they're not seeing the traction that they need. So you can check out the link to startup empire.co in the description. So one of the most common things people tell me is, they say, great, great, there's all these AI coding tools. They're good enough to get a prototype out the door, but they're not good enough to create a product in production that people are gonna use.

这段话的中文翻译是：这适合想创业但在寻找点子的人，或者是那些已经创业但尚未获得所需发展势头的人。你可以查看描述中提到的 startup empire.co 链接。人们常对我说的一件事情是，他们表示：“很好，很好，有很多 AI 编程工具。它们足够好，可以让我们做出原型，但还不足以开发出能够投入生产、被人们使用的产品。”

With respect to all these different AI coding products that you have on the screen, are there any ones that are particularly better or worse to create production level products? Cause ultimately I think that the people listening to this, like they've got ideas and they wanna put their ideas out in the world. Yeah, so if I were to answer your question, none of them are at 100% there, but there are some that are very close. I would say, Temple Labs is pretty close, Replet is pretty close, Bolton, Loveable are sort of headed there. And then with Kerst-Ran Windsurf, if you are willing to go through the pains, you can definitely make production applications. The issue is here, or the way I would think about it is like this.

关于你屏幕上显示的这些不同的AI编码产品，有没有哪一个在创建生产级产品方面特别好或特别差？因为我想最终听这个的人，他们都有自己的想法，并希望将这些想法展示给世界。如果要回答你的问题，目前没有哪个产品是100%完善的，但有一些已经非常接近了。我认为，Temple Labs和Replet都非常接近，Bolton和Loveable也在朝着这个方向努力。至于Kerst-Ran Windsurf，如果你愿意经历一些困难，你是可以制作出生产应用程序的。问题在于，或者说我的看法是这样的。

None of the tools are there again. I cannot confidently say you can build something to production easily, simply without a ton of roadblocks, a ton of headaches, a ton of pain and suffering. I'll just be honest and can it in that way. But there are tools that are pretty close. And my point here is I think investing in knowing how these tools work, playing with them, building mini projects, is an asset because once these tools get to that point, you'll be the first in line to know how to get these these productions.

工具又都不存在了。我无法自信地说，你可以很轻松、简单地在没有大量障碍、头疼、痛苦和折磨的情况下建立生产系统。我只是想诚实地表达这一点。不过，有一些工具已经非常接近这一目标。我的观点是，投入精力去了解这些工具的运作方式，使用它们进行小项目开发，这是一种资产。因为一旦这些工具达到了理想状态，你将是最早知道如何将它们用于生产的人之一。

So, Replet I think is great. Temple Labs, I think is great. Bolton, Loveable, I think they're great as well. I would definitely give Replet and Temple Labs the edge a bit more in terms of production applications, but they also have sort of their downsides, right? So, I would stick to these four. Replet and Temple Labs having the edge. But the reason why I'm not confident saying, oh, only use this specific one, is because one of these guys might drop an update tomorrow and it changes the game, right? So, none of these tools are there yet, but I implore you to continue to learn, to continue using these tools, getting, building some side projects, right?

好的，我觉得 Replet 很不错，Temple Labs 也很不错。Bolton 和 Loveable，我也认为它们很好。但在生产应用方面，我会略微倾向于 Replet 和 Temple Labs，不过它们也有一些不足之处。所以，我会选择这四个工具，并且更看好 Replet 和 Temple Labs。之所以我不敢肯定地说，只用其中某一个，是因为他们中的其中一个可能明天就推出一个更新，彻底改变现状。因此，这些工具目前都还未到达极致，但我强烈建议你继续学习，不断使用这些工具，尝试构建一些侧项目。

One of the things I might be going a little ahead because I do have some more stuff to share, but one of the things I share that as a developer, especially one who develops a lot of web stuff, one of the things that web developers mostly do when they test out a new framework, is they build out a simple app, like a simple to-do list. Like to-do list is kind of the standard, where like let's say some company drops a framework or some guy opensource is a framework. The best way to test it is just, let's build a to-do list app, let's see how easy it was. Was it a great experience that I, did I run into roadblocks and if I did, how easy was it to fix? I think people need to experience that for themselves with these tools, but in my humble opinion, I would give it to Repplin and Temple Labs right now. I appreciate that. Yup. And I think if we continue down, because I have a lot of mini charts here, and I hope people are appreciating the artistry, I think understanding which tool, which tool belongs is perfect for which person is important.

作为一个开发者，我有一些想分享的事情，尽管可能会提前透露一些内容。尤其是对于开发了很多网页的开发者来说，当他们测试一个新的框架时，通常会做的一件事就是构建一个简单的应用，比如一个待办事项清单。待办事项清单就像是一个标准示例。比如说，当某个公司推出一个框架或者某个人开源了一个框架时，测试它的最佳方式就是构建一个待办事项清单应用，看看使用起来有多简单。整个过程体验如何？有没有碰到困难？如果有，那解决起来是否容易？我认为人们需要亲自体验这些工具。不过，以我的拙见来看，目前我会推荐使用Repplin和Temple Labs。我非常感谢这一点。是的。而且如果我们继续探讨下去，因为我这里还有很多小图表，希望大家会欣赏其中的艺术性。我认为了解哪种工具适合哪种人是非常重要的。

So I have this like line, one side is non-technical, the other side is technical, and the middle point is non-technical with product skills. And simply what I mean by that is, you like tech, but you're non-technical. And the non-technical with product skills is the type of person who would go to the Apple website and consider it art, because of how things beautifully animate. You appreciate the fine little details on any website, app, or SaaS. And then the further end of the spectrum is you're a nerdier technical person. And honestly, I would put someone like Riley on this side, cause he is willing to bash them cursor and get something done, so respects to them for that.

所以我有这样一条线，一边代表非技术型，另一边代表技术型，而中间点是具备产品技能的非技术型。简单来说，这意思是，你喜欢技术，但不是技术人员。具备产品技能的非技术型人，是那种会把苹果官网当作艺术来欣赏的人，因为那里的动画效果非常美妙。你会欣赏任何网站、应用或SaaS上的细节之美。而在这条线的另一端，是更偏技术型的极客。老实说，我会把Riley放在这一侧，因为他愿意使用命令行来完成任务，所以对他表示尊重。

So if I were to map out all these tools, I would say if you're someone who's non-technical, all the way to you appreciate fine animations, lovable bolt, Temple Labs were perfect for you. But if you're someone who maybe itches towards the technical side, or even this, you have design skills. You know how to use Figma. I think these skills are very important, and tools like bolt and Temple Labs would be great for you. But if you're more on the technical side, all the way to someone who's non-technical with product skills, cursor and windsurfer are great. And then on look, I would say is more so for just technical people.

如果我要为这些工具绘制一个地图，那么我会说，如果你是一个非技术人员，但喜欢精美动画，那么 Bolt 和 Temple Labs 非常适合你。但是，如果你稍微倾向于技术方面，或者具备设计技能，比如会使用 Figma，我认为这些技能非常重要，Bolt 和 Temple Labs 也会对你很有帮助。但如果你更偏向技术领域，一直到具备产品技能的非技术人员，那么 Cursor 和 Windsurfer 是不错的选择。而 Look 则更适合纯技术人员。

Very important again, to experiment with all these tools. Most of these tools have generous free tiers. But this is what I think in terms of when I think of people and profiles, and even the way a lot of these products are marketing themselves, it seems to me that these are the people they're reaching out to, and it's best to sort of align yourselves with those products. Now, more classification. I have CDS code gen and deploy, so basically platform that can generate the code for you and deploy. You have lovable bolt, Replet V0. But then there are tools that are code gen they generate the code, but are also code editor.

非常重要的一点是，要对这些工具进行实验。大多数这些工具都有慷慨的免费使用层级。但在我看来，无论是从人群和用户档案，还是从这些产品的营销方式来看，他们似乎主要针对特定的人群。因此，最好与这些产品保持一致。现在说说分类，我有CDS代码生成和部署的平台，也就是可以为你生成代码并部署的平台。比如有可爱的bolt和Replet V0。不过也有一些工具，不仅能生成代码，还能用作代码编辑器。

And Replet gets added into here. Bolt is in here, V0 is in here, and then we have windsurfer and cursor. Temple Labs is code gen, code editor, and Figma, which I like, which I wish more tools sort of focused on. I would love to be able to tweak individual components the way people use Figma. But their deployment is not there yet. They only have preview deployments, which is why it doesn't have a CD. And then you have CD plus code editor, which you have Replet, Bolt, and V0. The reason why I give you these classifications is sort of, I want you to understand where you are as a person.

Replet 被添加到这里。Bolt 也在这里，V0 也在这里，然后我们有 windsurfer 和 cursor。Temple Labs 是代码生成、代码编辑器和 Figma，我很喜欢它，希望有更多的工具能够专注于这方面。我希望能像使用 Figma 一样调整各个组件。但他们的部署还不完善，目前只有预览部署，因此没有持续交付（CD）。然后是具有 CD 和代码编辑器的工具，包括 Replet、Bolt 和 V0。我向你提供这些分类，是想让你了解你自己所处的位置。

Like if you're someone who just wants to like, just type something and see what it builds, Bolt, lovable, great, have fun. But if you kind of know a little bit of what you want, and there are certain intricacies you want to focus on, you want some more fine grain control, I would enter the Replet Temple sort of sphere. And then if you want the ultimate control, be ready for pain, windsurfer and cursor. Now, given those categorizations, it wouldn't be fun if I didn't say who's better at what, right? And again, please, no trouble. I love all these guys. I love all these companies. I've talked with every team on this.

如果你是那种只想简单地输入一些东西，然后看看会生成什么的人，那么Bolt就是一个很可爱的选择，可以享受其中的乐趣。但如果你对自己的目标有一定了解，并想专注于某些细节，渴望获得更细致的控制，那么我会推荐Replet Temple。如果你追求终极控制，那么就要做好面对困难的准备，选择windsurfer和cursor。现在，在这些分类的基础上，如果我不说谁在某方面更好，就不够有趣了，对吧？再次声明，请不要引起纷争。我喜欢这些团队的所有产品，我和每个团队都有交流。

So there's no shade, nothing, please, just in advance. It's love. It's all love, right? It's all love. And everyone can win. Everyone can make money. Everyone can win. Everyone can exit. I'm here for everyone. But I will say some tools are better than others. For example, integrations, loveables kill it, right? And integrating with Stripe is very easy. With Superbase is very easy. There are certain packages and tools that they've integrated with that a lot of users might not know because they're not developers, but they've integrated with external packages very well. I would say loveables definitely number one there. Replet is a close second, although loveables margin, I would say is pretty high. And then you have tempo labs and then bolts.

所以没有抨击，没有什么负面的，请大家理解。这是一种爱，完全是爱，对吧？都是爱。而且每个人都可以成功。每个人都可以赚钱。每个人都可以获胜。每个人都可以退出。我是为了大家而来。但我要说，有些工具比其他工具更好。例如，集成方面，loveables非常出色，对吗？与Stripe和Superbase集成非常容易。有些软件包和工具他们已经很好地集成了，很多用户可能不知道，因为他们不是开发人员，但他们确实与外部包集成功能非常出色。我会说loveables绝对是第一。Replet紧随其后，尽管loveables的优势相当明显。然后是tempo labs和bolts。

One feel that a lot of the tools on focus on that, again, the reason why I put tempo and replet as the production one is because of collaboration. More times than not, you might be working with somebody else. Maybe it's two of you. Maybe it's three of you. Maybe there's one person who's more on the technical side. But you're still not technical. And then there's one person who's more of the designer, right?

这段话的意思是：很多工具都侧重于这一点，我之所以将Tempo和Replet选作生产工具，是因为它们支持协作。很多时候，你可能会和其他人合作。也许是你们两个人，也许是三个。可能有一个人更擅长技术，而你不是技术人员，然后有一个人更擅长设计，对吧？

Tempo labs and replet are great collaboration. I give tempo the edge. And then in terms of deployment, lovable, replet, bolt, excellent deployment experience, there isn't any big difference. To be honest, they all do the job. I would give tempo. The other tools have a ledge over tempo because tempo only does preview deployments, but I've talked with the team. They're working on production deployments. And then last but not least control. Like who gives you fine grain control when you build stuff? Tempo is in the lead, replet second. And then bolt and lovable, I would give both of the edge a bit more just because you can edit the code there. With lovable, you have to connect to GitHub. And then you'd have to do that on GitHub. So these are sort of the rankings I would give.

Tempo实验室和Replet是很好的合作。当然，我觉得Tempo略胜一筹。至于部署方面，Lovable、Replet和Bolt的表现都非常出色，没有什么太大的区别。老实说，它们都能完成任务。我会选择Tempo。其他工具在这一方面比Tempo占优，因为Tempo目前只支持预览部署，但我已经和他们的团队沟通过，他们正在研发生产部署功能。 最后是控制方面：在构建项目时，哪个工具能给予你更细致的控制？在这方面，Tempo排名第一，Replet第二，然后是Bolt和Lovable，我认为它们稍微略胜一筹，因为它们允许你直接编辑代码。对于Lovable，你需要连接到GitHub，并在GitHub上进行操作。所以这就是我对这些工具的排序。

Again, all tools, all the tools are great. We get the job, but some have the edge over another. I continue on which is better or any questions so far, Grant. What about pricing? That's a great point and I was going to bring that up. But I noticed all of them have the same base pricing. It's $20 or $30, the starter amount, like the first initial tier. And then they go up 50, $130, and then some of them have more expensive tiers. Here's a great secret. All of them have great free tiers, right? And some of them have daily caps, weekly caps. Just play around that, right?

再说一遍，所有工具都很不错，我们完成工作，但有些工具比其他工具稍有优势。关于哪一个更好或者有什么问题，我会继续讨论，Grant。价格方面怎么样？这是个好问题，我正要提到这一点。但我注意到它们的基本定价是一样的，起步价是20或30美元，这是第一个初级级别。然后价格升到50、130美元，部分工具还有更高价位的级别。这里有个好消息：它们都有免费的使用版本，并且有些有每日或每周的使用限制。因此，只要多试试就好，对吧？

Play around that, explore, test all these different tools. And then whatever tool makes sense for you, you can then choose to upgrade. But for example, lovable and bolt, 20 bucks, 20 bucks. Tempo, I think 30. Replet, I don't recall exactly, but they're all in the same like $20 to $30 to $40 range. My thing would be they all have a very rich, like they have good enough free tiers. Use those free tiers, test them out, see which one you like best, and whichever one you wanna upgrade with, you can upgrade with. But that's essentially what I did at first. I just used every free tier. And like I even had a chart, I wish I saved it, but I deleted it. I had a chart of when I can expect one tool, max out tokens and stuff. So you could be very creative with this. I don't want anyone to just pay for something just because I said it's good. Use the free tier, come with your own conclusions. Hopefully that makes sense.

围绕这个想法进行尝试、探索和测试这些不同的工具。然后你可以选择任何一个适合你的工具进行升级。不过，例如，Lovable和Bolt的价格都是20美元，Tempo好像是30美元，Replit具体多少钱我记不清了，不过它们的价格都在20到40美元左右。我的建议是，这些工具都有非常丰富的免费版本，先利用这些免费版本，测试一下，看看你最喜欢哪个，然后再决定是否升级。我一开始就是这么做的，我使用了所有的免费版本。我甚至还做了个表格，记录什么时候一个工具会达到最大使用量，尽管我后来删除了。我希望大家能发挥创造力，而不是因为我推荐了就盲目付费。先使用免费版本，得出你自己的结论。希望这有意义。

One more thing. So I did a video with Anjad, the CEO of Replet, and he was showcasing Replet Agent, I think it's called. Thoughts on, so some of these tools have agents, quote unquote, I know that's a hype term right now. Some of them, I guess don't. Any thoughts on agents and the role of agents in AI coding platforms?

还有一件事。我和Replet的CEO安贾德一起录制了一个视频，他在展示Replet Agent，我想大概是这个名字。关于这些工具和“代理”的想法——我知道“代理”这个词现在很流行。感觉有些工具有“代理”，有些则没有。关于“代理”及其在AI编程平台中作用的看法有什么？

Yeah, so I think it really depends, like for example, cursor has agent, windsurf has cascade, basically an agent. I think what it depends on is how much of what you want do you know, right? For example, if I go on, let's say I use Replet Agent or I use cursor agent, and then I use something like maybe tempo or like bolts, the agent, the tools with the agent term will be useful in scenarios where I don't really know what I want, so I'll say create a to do with stop. With Replet Agent maybe creates all the different functionalities, and then versus with tempo, it'll create a layout and then it'll ask you what's next, right? So I think the big difference is how much information do you have with the product that you want to build? And how much control and power do you want to have, right? At the end of the day, all of them use the same AI, they use the same AI products, right? They all use in cloud, or maybe some have used, are starting to use deep-seak, deep-seak.

好的，我觉得这真的取决于具体情况。比如说，cursor有代理，windsurf有cascade，基本上都是代理。我认为关键在于你对自己想要实现的目标了解多少。举个例子，如果我使用Replet Agent或者cursor agent，再加上像tempo或者bolts这样的工具，在我不太清楚要什么的时候，带有代理的工具会很有用。我可能会说创建一个待办事项清单，Replet Agent可能会创建所有不同的功能，而tempo可能会先创建一个布局，然后询问你接下来需要什么。所以，我觉得主要的区别在于你对想要构建的产品有多少了解，以及你希望拥有多少控制权和操作能力。最终，它们使用的都是相同的人工智能产品，可能都是基于云的，或者有些已经开始使用deep-seak技术。

So in terms of that arena, there's not much of a difference, but you will see maybe Replet Agent or cursor agents output be much more finished and much more complete versus the other tools. And the question that someone needs to ask themselves is how much of what I want to build, do I know, right? So let's say I want to build it to do with stop. Do I have colors of mine? Do I have functionality in mine? What kind of animations do I want to see? Do I want them grouped by weeks, by day, like, or do I just want to create a to do list app? I think that difference, if you're someone who just, hey, I just want to test it out, let's see what's up, Replet Agent, great, cursor agent, great. But if you know exactly what you want, it doesn't really matter per se.

在这个领域中，差别并不大，但你可能会发现 Replet Agent 或 Cursor Agents 的输出更加完善和完整。而你需要问自己的是：我对自己想要构建的东西了解多少？举个例子，如果我想设计一个待办事项应用，我是否已经设想了颜色和功能？我希望看到哪种动画效果？是按周、按天分组，还是只想创建一个简单的待办事项应用？如果你只是想试试看，那 Replet Agent 和 Cursor Agent 都不错。但如果你对自己想要的东西非常清楚，那具体选择哪个工具其实无所谓。

OK, so which is better? So what's better? Again, I highly suggest, you know, at the end of the day, I'm just some random guy with a fresh fade. I would highly suggest that you use every tool's free tier and build a simple to do list app. Just build something simple. Doesn't have to be crazy. You don't have to build the next AI product. Build a simple to do list app and evaluate it. How was your experience? Did you like having a lot of control? Did you hate having a lot of control? Because control is not for everybody. Did you like the assumptions that AI product was making for you? Or do you want to be able to tell it exactly what to do, right? Play with all these tools.

好的，那么哪一种工具更好呢？说到底，我只是个有着新发型的普通人。不过，我强烈建议你先用各个工具的免费版本，并尝试构建一个简单的待办事项应用程序。只要做一个简单的东西就行，不需要复杂，更不用说什么下一代AI产品了。构建一个简单的待办事项应用，然后评价一下：这个过程体验如何？你喜欢掌控一切的感觉吗？还是觉得难以驾驭？因为并不是所有人都喜欢掌控一切。你喜欢AI产品为你做出的假设吗？或者你更希望能准确指示它去做什么呢？去尝试使用这些工具吧。

But what I would recommend is, if you're a non-technical person, you're getting started. You ask some ideas. You're a great idea guy. You just want to shoot some ideas out. Loveable, bold, great. If you're a technical person and you like to code, WinSurferCursorGreat. If you're a technical and you don't want to code, but you want control, Replic Tempo and BoldGreat. If you're a non-technical person but are product-minded and want control, meaning you use Figma, you are about, you use Storyboard and you design components and stuff like that, or you're very intricate with certain things, or you want full access with the full product cycle, Tempo is great.

如果你是一个非技术型人员，刚开始接触这个领域，有一些想法，你是个很有创意的人，想要分享一些想法，那就放大胆爱去做。如果你是技术型人员，喜欢编程，那么WinSurferCursor是个不错的选择。如果你是技术型人员，但不喜欢编程，但是想要控制权，可以考虑使用Replic Tempo和BoldGreat。如果你是一个非技术型人员，但有产品思维并且想要控制权，比如你会使用Figma，了解Storyboard，设计组件等，或者你对某些事情非常讲究，希望能够全面参与产品周期，Tempo绝对是一个好选择。

But at the end of the day, you can use any of them, even if you're non-technical, you can use cursor and WinSurfer, make stuff happen. I do think a lot of these tools are targeting different people and whichever person you are aligning yourself with those tools makes sense, especially as they get better. None of them are perfect. None of them, I think, at this very moment, can build full grade production applications. They're close. I would say some are 70%, 80% there. If you're using cursor and WinSurfer, it's completely up to the person. But it would make sense to align yourself with these companies, build using their tools because they're getting the funding, they're building. And when they're ready, you'll be ready. And I'm excited to see what you ship.

"到头来，即使你没有技术背景，你也可以使用这些工具，比如Cursor和WinSurfer，做出一些事情。我认为这些工具针对的是不同的人群，无论你是哪种人，选择适合你的工具都是合理的，特别是当它们不断改进时。没有一个工具是完美的，我认为目前它们还无法创建完整的生产应用程序。但已经很接近了，我认为有些可能已经达到70%或80%的程度。使用Cursor和WinSurfer完全取决于个人。不过，与这些公司保持一致，利用他们的工具进行开发是有意义的，因为他们正在获得资金和进行建设。当他们准备好了，你也将准备好。我很期待看到你能创造出什么。"

And that's pretty much what I got for us today, Greg. They're short but sweet one. Beautiful. So I'm curious in the comments section, please let us know what you're playing with, what you like, what you don't like. I read every single comment and I'm curious. And if you're more curious about this sort of stuff and you want to get deeper, I highly recommend Ross Mike's YouTube channel, including the show notes. You can go find more about him there and on X. And that's the pod, really. Hope it's been helpful. Of course, and Greg, as always, we now appreciate you and to anyone who, because there are some people, I don't know, Greg, there are some people who've picked teams. There are the bold builders. There's the lovable builders. Like there's these clans. And I just want to say I want no smoke with everybody. I want the tools. All the builders are great. I'm just sharing information from my personal experience. I just want to give that thumbs up ahead of time. You're just a random guy with a fresh fade, trying to give some valuable information, you know? That's it. That's literally it.

这就是我今天为我们准备的内容，Greg。虽然短小但很甜美。太好了。我很好奇，请在评论区告诉我们你在玩些什么，喜欢什么，不喜欢什么。我会阅读每一条评论，我很好奇。如果你对这些东西更感兴趣并且想更深入了解的话，我强烈推荐 Ross Mike 的 YouTube 频道，包括他的节目注释。你可以去那里和 X 上找到更多关于他的内容。就这样，希望对你有帮助。当然，Greg，一如既往，我们非常感谢你，以及所有因为某些原因选择了团队的人。我不认识具体有些人，Greg，有些人加入了勇敢建设者阵营，还有人是可爱建设者一派，像是这些阵营。我只是想说，我跟大家没有任何竞争，我支持所有工具。所有的建设者都很棒，我只是在分享一些个人经验的信息。我只是想提前给出一个点赞。你只是一个有着清爽发型的普通人，试图分享一些有价值的信息，仅此而已，真的就是这样。

Yeah, no, I, we appreciate you. I speak on behalf of the whole startup ideas podcast. Audience, we appreciate you. Thanks for coming on. Thank you for having me. It's the world. Step in time, baby. Let's break our heads. Step in time, baby.

是啊，真的，我们很感激你。我代表整个创业点子播客的听众说，我们很感激你的参与。谢谢你的到来。感谢你邀请我。这就是世界。来吧，宝贝，跟上节拍。让我们全力以赴，宝贝，跟上节拍。