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The VergeCast 由制作人 Travis Larchuk 主持,呈现了一期生动活泼的热线节目,邀请了 The Verge 的交通编辑 Andrew Hawkins 回答听众关于汽车的问题。本期节目在 iPhone Duo 发布会之前录制,这一细节与第一个关于折叠手机的问题,特别是 Z Fold 8 有关。
在深入听众提问之前,播客播放了 Josh Cajas 带来的 2026 年 9 月 23 日星期三的“The Verge 90 秒新闻”环节:
1. **Meta 的智能眼镜:**Meta 有望在其 MetaConnect 活动上发布新的智能眼镜。该环节质疑公众是否能忘记 Meta 过去的负面事件,包括备受瞩目的诉讼、负面新闻、公众强烈反对以及 Reality Labs 五年内超过 800 亿美元的运营亏损,并将新设备戏称为“变态眼镜”。
2. **Discord 的年龄估算:**Discord 正在推出一套新的系统,旨在根据账户信号自动估算用户年龄,以避免 2 月份拙劣的年龄验证推行导致的[数据泄露](https://www.deepl.com/translator#en/zh/data%20breach)问题。该公司预计 90% 的用户无需确认年龄。
3. **麦当劳得来速广告:**彭博社报道称,麦当劳正在试点在其得来速菜单上展示其他品牌的广告,一位发言人将其描述为分享“有用、相关或有趣”的购后内容。
与 Andrew Hawkins 的问答环节始于一个个人问题:他最喜欢的交通方式。他毫不犹豫地选择了自行车,因为它高效且具有积极影响。
**问题 1:Galaxy Z Fold 在 Slate 卡车中的应用**
Brandon 问 Z Fold 是否可以在 Slate 卡车中用作控制台,或作为无人机控制系统。Andrew 解释说,Slate 卡车是一种新型电动卡车,旨在剥离所有非必需品(无电动车窗、内部屏幕或收音机)以降低成本。他同意,由于 Slate 卡车的极简特性,像 Z Fold 这样的折叠手机确实可以作为“终极 BYO 电动汽车”中的大型定制信息娱乐系统,允许用户安装自己的设备。
**问题 2:Tesla 无线充电器和 iPhone 摄像头凸起**
Maxwell 表达了他的沮丧,因为他的 iPhone 17 Pro Max 巨大的摄像头凸起导致它无法在他的 Tesla 中进行无线充电。Andrew 承认这是一个普遍问题,强调了手机技术发展速度之快与汽车技术(寿命更长)之间的对比。他指出,许多车载无线充电器效率低下,导致手机过热,并建议使用 USB-C 数据线插电充电仍然是更可靠的解决方案。他补充说,汽车制造商面临的挑战是为不断变化的手机尺寸和形状设计手机存储解决方案。
**问题 3:Apple CarPlay 和地图**
一位匿名听众表示,他们对 CarPlay 唯一真正的兴趣在于地图,理由是他们的 Toyota Land Cruiser 内置导航质量差。Andrew 证实地图是 CarPlay/Android Auto 普及的主要驱动力。他解释说,汽车制造商正越来越多地将 Apple Maps 或 Google Maps 直接集成到他们的信息娱乐系统中(例如 GM 的 Google Built-in,或 Polestar 的 Apple Maps),因为他们专有的导航系统往往表现不佳。Andrew 指出,原生集成的优势在于能够将车辆数据(如电动汽车的充电续航里程或燃油量)整合到导航中,从而提供更无缝、更智能的驾驶体验。Travis 和 Andrew 幽默地同意,尤其是在有不耐烦的乘客时,地图上需要一个隐藏剩余行程时间的功能。
**问题 4:现成电动汽车组件与 Fisker**
来自 Nova Scotia 的 Jason 思考为什么更多的电动汽车公司不采取使用现成组件的策略,而不是尝试完全垂直整合,并以 Fisker 的失败作为警示。Andrew 解释说,由 Henrik Fisker 创立的 Fisker 2.0 试图做太多事情(例如内部软件),最终在供应链问题和疫情中失败了。Andrew 指出,虽然 Rivian 等一些公司确实像 Tesla 那样追求垂直整合,以实现长期成本控制和供应商独立性,但其他公司,特别是像 Amble 这样制造低速电动汽车的小型初创公司,正在与 Magna 等制造商签订合同,并从外部采购许多零部件。他总结说,存在多种方法,虽然由现成零部件组成的“科学怪人汽车”听起来很有吸引力,但这种模式的商业计算对于大众市场车辆来说并不总是那么简单。
**问题 5:墨西哥和美国的中国电动汽车**
Claudio 指出墨西哥的汽车市场可能是美国市场的潜在预测指标,并提到比亚迪 (BYD) 等中国品牌的迅速崛起,甚至有美国品牌正在重新贴牌中国车型。他提到了 BYD Seagull 和 Shark。Andrew 证实墨西哥和加拿大确实正在成为中国电动汽车的关键市场。他解释说,The Verge 坚持自费差旅的道德政策限制了他们像那些接受赞助旅行的媒体一样,轻松地前往并报道这些发展。虽然美国政策目前限制了一些中国品牌,但 Andrew 承认存在以美国品牌销售的中国制造汽车(例如一些 Lincoln 车型),并预测中国电动汽车最终会进入美国市场,尽管会受到严格限制。他表示很期待去墨西哥测试这些车辆。
节目最后,Travis 鼓励听众通过电子邮件 (vergecast@theverge.com) 或热线电话 (866-VERGE-11) 提交问题,留下五星好评,并订阅 The Verge 以获取无广告播客。
The VergeCast, hosted by producer Travis Larchuk, presented a lively hotline episode featuring The Verge's transportation editor, Andrew Hawkins, to answer listener questions about cars. This episode was recorded before the iPhone Duo announcement, a detail relevant to the first question about folding phones, specifically the Z Fold 8.
Before diving into the listener questions, the podcast provided a "90 Seconds on The Verge" news segment for Wednesday, September 23rd, 2026, presented by Josh Cajas:
1. **Meta's Smart Glasses:** Meta was expected to announce new smart glasses at its MetaConnect event. The segment questioned if the public could forget Meta's past issues, including high-profile lawsuits, negative press, public backlash, and Reality Labs' over $80 billion in operating losses over five years, dubbing the new devices "pervert glasses."
2. **Discord's Age Estimation:** Discord was rolling out a new system to automatically estimate users' age based on account signals, aiming to avoid the issues of a botched age verification rollout in February that led to a data breach. The company anticipated 90% of users would not need to confirm their age.
3. **McDonald's Drive-Thru Ads:** Bloomberg reported McDonald's was piloting displaying ads from other brands on its drive-thru menus, framed by a spokesperson as sharing "helpful, relevant, or interesting" post-purchase content.
The Q&A with Andrew Hawkins began with a personal question: his favorite form of transportation. He unequivocally chose the bicycle for its efficiency and positive impact.
**Question 1: The Galaxy Z Fold in a Slate Truck**
Brandon asked if the Z Fold could find a utility case as a console in a Slate truck or as a drone control system. Andrew explained that the Slate truck is a new electric truck designed to strip out all non-essentials (no power windows, internal screen, or radio) to lower costs. He agreed that a foldable phone like the Z Fold could indeed serve as a large, custom infotainment system in the "ultimate BYO electric vehicle" due to the Slate truck's bare-bones nature, allowing users to mount their own devices.
**Question 2: Tesla Wireless Charger and iPhone Camera Bumps**
Maxwell shared his frustration that his iPhone 17 Pro Max's large camera bump prevented it from wirelessly charging in his Tesla. Andrew acknowledged this as a common problem, highlighting how fast phone technology evolves compared to car tech, which has a longer lifespan. He noted that many car wireless chargers are inefficient, causing phones to overheat, and suggested that plugging in with a USB-C cable remains a more reliable solution. The challenge for automakers, he added, is designing phone storage solutions for constantly changing phone sizes and forms.
**Question 3: Apple CarPlay and Maps**
An anonymous listener stated their only real interest in CarPlay was for the maps, citing the poor quality of built-in navigation in their Toyota Land Cruiser. Andrew confirmed that maps are a primary driver for CarPlay/Android Auto adoption. He explained that automakers are increasingly integrating Apple Maps or Google Maps directly into their infotainment systems (like GM with Google Built-in, or Polestar with Apple Maps) because their proprietary navigation systems are often subpar. The advantage of native integration, Andrew noted, is the ability to incorporate vehicle data (like EV range for charging stops or fuel levels) into the navigation for a more seamless and informed driving experience. Travis and Andrew humorously agreed on the need for a feature to hide the remaining trip time on maps, especially with impatient passengers.
**Question 4: Off-the-shelf EV Components and Fisker**
Jason from Nova Scotia pondered why more EV companies don't adopt a strategy of using off-the-shelf components instead of attempting full vertical integration, citing Fisker's failure as a cautionary tale. Andrew explained that Fisker 2.0, founded by Henrik Fisker, tried to do too much (like in-house software) and ultimately failed amidst supply chain issues and the pandemic. While some companies like Rivian do pursue vertical integration à la Tesla for long-term cost control and supplier independence, Andrew noted that others, particularly smaller startups building low-speed EVs like Amble, *are* contracting with manufacturers like Magna and sourcing many parts externally. He concluded that there's a diversity of approaches, and while a "Frankenstein car" of off-the-shelf parts sounds appealing, the business math for such a model isn't always straightforward for mass-market vehicles.
**Question 5: Chinese EVs in Mexico and the US**
Claudio pointed to Mexico's car market as a potential predictor for the US, noting the rapid rise of Chinese brands like BYD and even American brands rebadging Chinese models. He mentioned the BYD Seagull and Shark. Andrew confirmed that Mexico and Canada are indeed becoming key markets for Chinese electric vehicles. He explained that The Verge's ethical policy of paying its own way limits their ability to travel and cover these developments as easily as outlets that accept sponsored trips. While US policy currently restricts some Chinese brands, Andrew acknowledged the presence of Chinese-made vehicles sold under American brands (e.g., some Lincolns) and predicted that Chinese EVs would eventually enter the US market, albeit with strict limitations. He expressed enthusiasm for visiting Mexico to test these vehicles.
The episode concluded with Travis encouraging listeners to submit questions via email (vergecast@theverge.com) or the hotline (866-VERGE-11), leave five-star reviews, and subscribe to The Verge for ad-free podcasts.