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最近的财报季波动剧烈,尽管许多公司经常超出预期,但股价仍大幅震荡。在最新一期的《愚人投资:隐秘宝石》(Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing)节目中,主持人泰勒·克劳(Tyler Crow)与约翰·夸斯(John Quass)和马特·弗兰克尔(Matt Frankel)深入探讨了思科(Cisco)、赛瑞布拉斯系统(Cerebrus Systems)的最新财报,并快速回顾了一些不为人知的潜力股。 **思科:在波涛汹涌中稳健航行** 录制节目时,思科股价下跌了7.4%,鉴于当前市场的波动性,这被认为是一种“温和”的反应。思科已连续五个季度超出盈利预期,这使得超预期表现几乎成为常态。马特·弗兰克尔指出,尽管思科的人工智能订单达到93亿美元,超过了其90亿美元的修订指导目标,但市场可能已经将这一增长因素纳入了股价。他指出,产品订单同比增长35%,远高于18%的营收增长,这预示着未来营收可能加速增长。然而,管理层并未提供2027财年人工智能订单的新指引,这可能加剧了投资者的不安。尽管有所下跌,思科的市盈率仍约为40倍,并保持在接近历史高点的水平。 约翰·夸斯强调思科每股收益(EPS)同比增长31%,超过了其12%的营收增长。他预计未来一年每股收益增长将超过20%,凸显了其强劲的盈利能力。泰勒·克劳提出了一个担忧,即思科的剩余履约义务(RPO)仅增长了7%,这相对于其他硬件和软件公司来说较低,质疑思科是否可能正在将市场份额输给Arista Networks等竞争对手。 约翰解释道,作为一个年营收超过600亿美元的传统业务,思科的庞大长期客户基础可能会稀释其人工智能驱动的RPO数据。他将其与戴尔(Dell)向人工智能领域的转型进行类比,认为思科显著的人工智能基础设施订单增长(同比增长400%,预计2026财年增长90%)是一个投资者不应忽视的“隐秘宝藏”。马特补充说,尽管思科在人工智能热潮初期落后于Arista,但其将硬件堆栈解耦的战略决策使得其芯片可以安装在非思科设备中,从而帮助其夺回阵地。他澄清道,思科的RPO主要由其传统业务的软件续订组成,而快速交付的人工智能产品不会滞留在积压订单中。 **赛瑞布拉斯系统:令人困惑的首次亮相** 赛瑞布拉斯系统(Cerebrus Systems)是一家新近上市、备受投资者关注的公司,在公布财报后,其股价下跌了13%。泰勒·克劳幽默地承认自己发错了公司名称,并承认了围绕该公司普遍存在的困惑。马特·弗兰克尔描述了其核心理念:赛瑞布拉斯构建更大的芯片,旨在取代多个英伟达(NVIDIA)芯片,承诺实现更低的功耗和延迟。 财报本身令人困惑,该公司同时提供了GAAP营收(增长74%,未达预期)和“核心营收”(增长一倍多,超出指引)。核心营收不包括向OpenAI等主要客户发行的认股权证的影响。营收结构转向云服务,由OpenAI的部署推动,导致硬件营收下降了23%。这一转变以及其他因素,导致核心毛利率下降了近六个百分点,尽管管理层预计第三季度将是低点。尽管拥有250亿美元的积压订单和90亿美元的现金,但营收未达预期、毛利率问题以及净亏损导致了股价下跌。管理层预计2027年营收将同比增长两倍,尽管约翰澄清说,台积电(Taiwan Semiconductor)等合作伙伴提到的10倍制造量增长与赛瑞布拉斯自己的营收预测是分开的。 泰勒质疑,赛瑞布拉斯“事半功倍”的策略,即提供高效的专用芯片,是否会削弱英伟达等通用GPU供应商或存储芯片制造商的增长。马特认为,在当前的人工智能周期中,效率提升主要扩大了对人工智能的整体需求,使得赛瑞布拉斯和英伟达都能实现增长。约翰强调了英伟达通用GPU(适用于人工智能训练)和赛瑞布拉斯ASIC(专用集成电路,专门用于推理)之间的区别,这表明未来人工智能硬件的专业化和通用化将共同繁荣。 **闪电轮:不为人知的潜力股** 随后,主持人们进行了一轮“闪电快问”,重点介绍了他们关注的一些低调公司: * **Xometry (XMTR)**:约翰·夸斯讨论了这家“定制化制造电子商务”平台。用户提交方案,立即获得由AI驱动的报价,然后Xometry将工作分包给制造商。该公司报告营收增长41%,连续第四个季度实现加速增长,活跃买家增长20%。与西门子(Siemens)的新合作,将Xometry的报价集成到产品设计工作流程中,被认为是巨大的潜在采用驱动力。 * **Marqeta (MQ)**:马特·弗兰克尔重点介绍了这家提供第三方支付基础设施的金融科技公司。尽管其最大客户Block(Cash App)仍占营收的41%,但这已低于一年前的46%,显示出多元化。Marqeta报告总支付量同比增长32%(连续第四个季度超过30%),并连续第二个季度实现了GAAP净利润转正,调整后EBITDA利润率达到21%。尽管由于增长预测放缓导致股价下跌,但马特认为其便宜的估值和盈利能力的改善具有吸引力。 * **BBB Foods (TBBB)**:泰勒·克劳介绍了这家墨西哥硬折扣杂货零售商,类似于阿尔迪(Aldi)。该公司报告了令人印象深刻的销售增长,同比增长38.7%,同店销售增长20%。BBB Foods目前拥有3,200家门店,目标是在墨西哥开设14,000家门店,本季度新增了125家。尽管快速扩张,但由于其高效的产品周转,该公司产生了大量自由现金流,使其成为一个令人兴奋的增长故事。 节目最后总结道,强调了市场的动态性,以及通过深入研究财报和鲜为人知的公司可以发现的机会。

The recent earnings season has been marked by significant volatility, with companies experiencing wild swings despite often beating expectations. On a recent episode of Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing, host Tyler Crow, joined by John Quass and Matt Frankel, delved into the latest reports from Cisco, Cerebrus Systems, and a lightning round of under-the-radar stocks. **Cisco's Steady Ship in Choppy Waters** Shares of Cisco were down 7.4% at the time of recording, a reaction considered "mild" given the current market's volatility. Cisco has consistently beaten earnings estimates for five consecutive quarters, making beats almost expected. Matt Frankel highlighted that while Cisco's AI orders reached $9.3 billion, surpassing its revised guidance of $9 billion, the market might be pricing in this growth. He noted that product orders grew 35% year-over-year, significantly higher than the 18% revenue growth, suggesting a potential acceleration in future revenue. However, management did not provide new guidance for AI orders for fiscal year 2027, which may have contributed to investor unease. Despite the dip, Cisco trades at around 40 times earnings and remains near its all-time high. John Quass emphasized Cisco's strong earnings per share growth, up 31% for the year, outpacing its 12% revenue growth. He projected over 20% earnings per share growth for the upcoming year, highlighting healthy profitability. Tyler Crow raised a concern about Cisco's Remaining Performance Obligations (RPOs) growing only 7%, which is relatively light compared to other hardware and software companies, questioning if Cisco might be losing market share to competitors like Arista Networks. John explained that as a legacy business generating over $60 billion in annual revenue, Cisco's AI-driven RPOs might be diluted by its extensive base of long-standing customers. He drew a parallel to Dell's transformation into an AI player, suggesting that Cisco's significant AI infrastructure order growth (up 400% year-over-year, with a projected 90% growth in fiscal 2026) is a "hidden gem" that investors should not dismiss. Matt added that while Cisco initially lagged Arista in the AI boom, its strategic decision to unbundle its hardware stack allowed its chips to be installed in non-Cisco devices, helping it regain ground. He clarified that Cisco's RPO mainly comprises software renewals from its legacy business, and the rapidly shipped AI products don't linger in the backlog. **Cerebrus Systems: A Confusing Debut** Cerebrus Systems, a recently public company with investor buzz, saw its stock drop 13% after reporting earnings. Tyler Crow humorously admitted mispronouncing the company's name, acknowledging the general confusion surrounding the company. Matt Frankel described the core idea: Cerebrus builds larger chips designed to replace multiple NVIDIA chips, promising lower power consumption and latency. The reporting itself was confusing, with the company providing both GAAP revenue (up 74%, missing estimates) and "core revenue" (more than doubled, beating guidance). Core revenue excludes the impact of warrants issued to major customers like OpenAI. The revenue mix shifted towards cloud services, driven by OpenAI deployments, causing hardware revenue to fall by 23%. This shift, along with other factors, led to a nearly six-percentage-point drop in core gross margins, though management expects Q3 to be the low point. Despite a $25 billion backlog and $9 billion in cash, the revenue miss, margin issues, and a net loss contributed to the stock's decline. Management projected revenue to triple year-over-year in 2027, though John clarified that a 10x manufacturing increase mentioned by partners like Taiwan Semiconductor was separate from Cerebrus's own revenue projections. Tyler questioned whether Cerebrus's "more with less" approach, offering highly efficient specialized chips, could undermine the growth of general-purpose GPU providers like NVIDIA or memory chip makers. Matt argued that in the current AI cycle, efficiency gains have primarily expanded the overall demand for AI, allowing both Cerebrus and NVIDIA to grow. John highlighted the distinction between NVIDIA's general-purpose GPUs (good for AI training) and Cerebrus's ASICs (specialized for inference), suggesting a future where both specialization and generalization in AI hardware will thrive. **Lightning Round: Under-the-Radar Gems** The hosts then indulged in a "lightning round" to highlight under-the-radar companies they follow: * **Xometry (XMTR)**: John Quass discussed this "e-commerce of custom manufacturing" platform. Users submit plans, receive instant AI-powered pricing, and Xometry farms out the work to manufacturers. The company reported 41% revenue growth, its fourth consecutive quarter of accelerating growth, with active buyers up 20%. A new partnership with Siemens, integrating Xometry's pricing into product design workflows, was identified as a huge potential adoption driver. * **Marqeta (MQ)**: Matt Frankel highlighted this fintech company providing third-party payment infrastructure. While its largest customer, Block (Cash App), still accounts for 41% of revenue, this is down from 46% a year ago, showing diversification. Marqeta reported total payment volume up 32% year-over-year (fourth straight quarter above 30%) and achieved positive GAAP net income for the second consecutive quarter, with adjusted EBITDA margins at 21%. Despite a stock drop due to decelerating growth forecasts, Matt sees its cheap valuation and turnaround in profitability as compelling. * **BBB Foods (TBBB)**: Tyler Crow presented this Mexican hard discount grocery retailer, akin to Aldi. The company reported impressive sales growth of 38.7% year-over-year and same-store sales growth of 20%. With 3,200 stores, BBB Foods aims for 14,000 across Mexico and added 125 new locations in the quarter. Despite rapid expansion, the company generates significant free cash flow due to its efficient product turnover, making it an exciting growth story. The episode concluded, emphasizing the dynamic nature of the market and the opportunities that can be found by digging deeper into earnings reports and lesser-known companies.