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Lenny's Podcast - The high-growth handbook: Molly Graham’s frameworks for leading through chaos, change, and scale

发布时间:2026-01-04 13:31:04   原节目
莫莉·格雷厄姆是一位经验丰富的领导者,曾在谷歌、脸书、陈-扎克伯格倡议(Chan Zuckerberg Initiative)和 Quip 等公司任职。她分享了她在组织中应对快速增长和变化的经验教训。她强调,这些见解来自“犯过书中所有的错误”,并观察那些停滞不前的公司与能够代代相传的企业之间的区别。 格雷厄姆最广为人知的概念是“放弃你的乐高”,即员工在公司扩张时应该积极移交职责。这并非抛弃技能,而是认识到增长需要角色进化。固守任务会阻碍个人发展,并阻碍整体进步。她引入了“鲍勃”这个隐喻性的怪物,代表着伴随变革而来的恐惧和领地意识。虽然她承认这些情绪是正常的,但她建议不要受其左右,建议遵循“两周规则”,让情绪消退后再做决定。她强调拥抱变化是通往成功职业生涯的道路,并指出抵制通常会导致更糟糕的自我。 另一个关键概念是职业发展的“J曲线与阶梯”方法。格雷厄姆回忆了一个故事,她曾在脸书接受了一项令人生畏的移动角色,几个月来感觉自己像个“白痴”,但最终获得了专业知识,并为新的机会打开了大门。“阶梯”代表着可预测的、线性的职业道路,而“J曲线”则意味着承担风险,最初会跌落谷底,但最终会攀升到更高的高度。她告诫听众要区分不同类型的恐惧——承认财务恐惧是真实存在的因素,而其他类型的恐惧则可以看作是跃跃欲试的邀请。在下跌阶段,拥抱“职业白痴”阶段、问“愚蠢的问题”以及成为“10倍学习者”至关重要。 格雷厄姆讨论了“水位线模型”,其中团队被可视化为船只,问题分为水上和水下。在水下,她强调了结构性问题(目标、角色、期望)、动态问题(文化、决策制定)、人际关系和个人挑战。她建议“潜水之前先浮潜”,即首先解决表面上的结构或动态问题,然后再深入研究个人或人际问题。她还提到,明确的角色和明确的期望,是管理者最基本的要求,对团队的成功影响最大。 格雷厄姆提出了创建清晰目标和一致性的六条规则:将公司目标限制在三个以内,确保一个目标在冲突中胜出,使目标甚至对实习生也能理解(“像对五岁的孩子解释一样”),确保战略具有痛苦性(做出痛苦的权衡),为每个目标分配一位负责人,并理解没有问责和学习的后续流程,目标是不够的。 在处理变革和规模化时,格雷厄姆强调,领导者的工作不是拥有所有答案,而是要擅长找到答案。她告诫不要承诺超出控制范围的事情,并强调解雇不合适的人与有效招聘同等重要。秉承“服务业务,而非服务个人”的理念,她强调将公司的成功置于个人感受之上。她主张将精力投入到超级绩效者身上,而不是仅仅关注挣扎的员工,为他们创造机会来扩展他们的潜力并解决关键的公司需求。 最后,格雷厄姆回顾了马克·扎克伯格、谢丽尔·桑德伯格、拉里和谢尔盖以及布雷特·泰勒等创始人的影响。她指出,公司文化的80%源于创始人的个性,而运营者的作用是阐明和扩展这种文化。马克的另一个建议是不要避免升级。它是一种工具,而不是失败。谢丽尔的建议是,超过100%的增长对你的业务不利。目标是50%及以下。她建议在雇用任何人之前,先看看内部和外部因素,并建议除非他们是100%必要的,否则不要雇用任何人。

Molly Graham, a seasoned leader with experience at Google, Facebook, Chan Zuckerberg Initiative, and Quip, shares her hard-earned wisdom on navigating rapid growth and change in organizations. She emphasizes that her insights come from "making every mistake in the book" and observing the difference between companies that plateau versus generational businesses. Graham's most recognizable concept is "giving away your Legos," where employees embrace handing off responsibilities as companies scale. This isn't about abandoning skills but recognizing that growth demands evolving roles. Holding onto tasks stagnates personal development and hinders overall progress. She introduces "Bob," a metaphorical monster embodying the fear and territoriality that accompany change. While acknowledging these emotions as normal, she advises against acting on them, suggesting a "two-week rule" to let emotional waves pass before making decisions. She emphasizes embracing change as the path to a successful career, noting that resistance often leads to a worse version of oneself. Another key concept is the "J-curve versus stairs" approach to career growth. Graham recounts a story where she accepted a daunting mobile role at Facebook, feeling like an "idiot" for months but eventually gaining expertise and opening doors to new opportunities. The "stairs" represent a predictable, linear career path, while the "J-curve" involves taking risks and initially falling, but ultimately climbing to greater heights. She cautions listeners to differentiate types of fear— acknowledging financial fear as a real factor, and other types of fear as an invitation to take a leap of faith. Embracing the "professional idiot" phase, asking "dumb questions," and becoming a "10x learner" are essential during the falling phase. Graham discusses the "waterline model," where teams are visualized as boats with challenges above and below the waterline. Below the waterline, she highlights structural issues (goals, roles, expectations), dynamics (culture, decision-making), interpersonal relationships, and intrapersonal challenges. She advises to "snorkel before you scuba," meaning addressing surface-level structural or dynamic problems first before delving into individual or interpersonal issues. She also mentions that clear roles and clear expectations, the bare minimum for managers, make the most difference to a team's success. Graham presents six rules for creating clear goals and alignment: limit company goals to three, ensure one goal wins in a fight, make goals understandable even to an intern ("explain it to me like I'm five goal"), ensure strategy hurts (making painful trade-offs), assign one owner to each goal, and understand that goals are insufficient without a follow-up process for accountability and learning. On dealing with change and scale, Graham emphasizes that a leader's job is not to have all the answers but to become adept at finding them. She cautions against promising things that are out of control and highlights the importance of firing people who are not a good fit as much as effective hiring. Drawing on the "serve the business, not the people" mantra, she emphasizes prioritizing the company's success over personal feelings. She advocates for investing energy in hyper-performers rather than solely focusing on struggling employees, creating opportunities for them to expand their potential and address critical company needs. Finally, Graham reflects on the influence of founders like Mark Zuckerberg, Sheryl Sandberg, Larry and Sergey, and Brett Taylor. She notes that 80% of a company's culture stems from the founder's personality, and an operator's role is to articulate and extend that culture. Another tip from Mark is to not avoid escalation. It's a tool, not a failure. The tip from Sheryl is that growth more than 100% is bad for your business. Aim for 50% and under. She suggests taking a look at internal and external factors before hiring anyone, and suggests to not hire anyone unless they are 100% necessary.