首页  >>  来自播客: Electrified 更新   反馈  

Electrified - Tesla's Biggest Two Days, Ever ⚡️

发布时间:2025-12-16 01:21:33   原节目
以下是内容的中文翻译: 以下是所提供转录内容的摘要,包含所有提及的新闻项目: **特斯拉FSD(全自动驾驶)和无人出租车(Robotaxi)进展:** * **特斯拉的领先地位:** 主持人认为,在自动驾驶领域,其他公司“远远落后于特斯拉,令人担忧”。Out of Spec的Kyle(此前持怀疑态度)承认FSD V14的进步,这具有重要意义。 * **奥斯汀无人出租车测试:** 首批两辆特斯拉Model Y被发现在奥斯汀进行无人测试。这些车辆挂有不同的车牌。 * **尚未提供公开载客服务:** 尚未有未经安全员监控的公开载客服务的确凿报告。 * **埃隆的目标进展顺利:** 主持人认为,特斯拉有望在年底前实现埃隆设定的在奥斯汀移除安全员的目标。 * **无人出租车定价:** 主持人不同意无人出租车价格会下降的观点,他认为特斯拉可能从一开始就以无安全员的成本来定价。特斯拉的价格已经比Waymo和Uber低了50%以上。 * **车队规模扩大:** 预计车队规模将在1月份迅速扩大。 * **2026年令人兴奋:** 在自动驾驶的推动下,2026年有望成为特斯拉有史以来最激动人心的一年。 * **内部兴奋情绪:** 特斯拉员工(A show、West Moral、Eric——Cybercab首席工程师、Kamal Gupta——擎天柱负责人、Juliani Bars——擎天柱AI负责人)正在公开庆祝“无监督FSD的规模化部署”。 * **车队的OTA更新:** 特斯拉官方账号表示,车队将“通过OTA软件更新被唤醒”,这意味着数百万辆支持HW4的特斯拉可以在一夜之间转向无监督运行。如果HW3车辆在第一季度获得FSD 14精简版,可能会有数百万辆。 * **“循序渐进,然后突然全面爆发”:** 主持人认为,从“缓慢”阶段向“突然全面爆发”阶段的过渡迫在眉睫,届时数百万辆汽车将在硬件和软件上都具备无需驾驶员即可运行的能力。 * **监管:** 监管被认为是限制因素,但主持人预计,大多数问题会随着时间的推移得到解决,特斯拉已准备好提供更新。 **回应质疑:** * **JerryRig Everything的批评:** JerryRig Everything的Zach声称特斯拉的无人出租车是远程操作的,并且每六个月才在推特上展示一次,目的是为了拉抬股价。主持人称之为“荒谬”且“不断变化的借口”,并提醒观众,受众庞大不等于信息准确。 **无人出租车进展时间表:** * **奥斯汀进展:** Jonathan的图表显示,从奥斯汀启动(6月22日)到测试移除安全员(12月14日)的时间线为175天(不到6个月)。 * **未来城市时间线缩短:** 希望这一时间线在每个新城市都能缩短。 * **无人驾驶付费服务:** 尽管无人驾驶测试是一个里程碑,但完全无监控的付费载客服务是下一个巨大进步,主持人认为这很快就会是“板上钉钉的事实”。 **FSD v14.2.1.2.5 更新和用户体验:** * **用户批评:** 用户Colin报告称FSD 14“糟糕透顶”,车辆犹豫不决,线路摇摆不定,更喜欢旧版本。 * **主持人观点:** 主持人认为,速度变化、停车和(部分用户的)变道等问题并非“安全关键”,不应阻止特斯拉实现完全自动驾驶。 * **“已解决”的定义:** 关于“FSD已解决”的争论应区分“在任何情况下都完美”与“足以实现自动驾驶并安全地将你从A点带到B点”。 * **故障排除:** 许多人建议Colin校准他的摄像头。 * **安全关键情况:** 对于大规模车队来说“极其罕见”,在奥斯汀则“接近于零”,这是由于集中努力的结果。 * **多种条件:** 轶事表明FSD在雪、雾、雨和夜间都能工作。 * **空头论点:** 空头的唯一论点是特斯拉缺乏规模,预计2026年上半年将有所改变。 * **公众认知:** CERN的图表显示,只有0.1%的美国人口(约50万FSD用户)知道即将发生什么。 * **埃隆的预测:** 埃隆“去年12月”预测的特斯拉软件优势的“残酷现实”将像海啸一样在“明年年底”(推测是2024年或2025年)袭来,被认为是准确的。 * **v14.2.1.2.5改进:** 用户报告速度配置文件显著改进,“疯狂麦克斯模式”不再限制超速10英里/小时,变道更自信,在并道、换道和超车时零干预。 * **避让道路碎片:** 一段视频显示FSD 14.2.1成功避开了高速公路上的道路碎片。特斯拉工程师指出,纯视觉能力由于其密集的上下文理解,使得这种推理成为可能。 * **CNET评测:** CNET报道称,使用FSD驾驶超过100英里,全程未触碰方向盘,称其“卓越”且代表未来。它在挑战性路况(高速公路、缆车轨道、骑行者、施工标志、九曲花街)表现出色,但在停车标志处过于保守(归咎于NHTSA)。 **Grok集成与导航:** * **对话式导航:** Grok与特斯拉车载导航的新集成允许用户通过语音与车辆互动,寻找地点(洗手间、药店、餐厅、ATM、洗车场),调整路线,搜索旅游景点或长期停车位,所有这些都可以通过对话完成。 * **未来潜力:** 这种“令人惊叹的功能”可推广到无人出租车体验,用户只需说出需求,无需屏幕互动。未来的可能性包括特斯拉与公司签订推荐合作协议。 **特斯拉Model Y续航测试:** * **创纪录续航:** 新版Model Y标准续航版在Edmunds的续航测试中表现出色,达到了337英里,超出了其321英里的EPA估计值。这是任何Model Y在该测试中取得的最好成绩。 * **准确性提升:** Edmunds指出,从2018年到2023年,特斯拉车型通常未能达到EPA的估计值,但现在续航估计值要准确得多。 **特斯拉能源(Megapack)扩张:** * **Spy协议:** 独立欧洲能源行业领导者Spy公司(拥有5.5万名员工)与特斯拉签署了一项新的三年期欧洲框架协议,以使用Megapack解决方案实施电池存储项目。 * **简化部署:** 该协议规范了法律和运营条件,有助于特斯拉在欧洲部署更多Megapacks,并简化未来的项目。 **激光雷达行业与Luminar破产:** * **Luminar申请破产保护:** Luminar已申请破产保护(Chapter 11),旨在出售其激光雷达业务(已出售其半导体子公司),最终将不复存在。 * **创始人辞职:** 创始人Austin Russell在商业行为准则调查后辞职。 * **Mark Rober视频:** 主持人认为Mark Rober的视频(让特斯拉FSD看起来很糟糕)是Luminar的“欺诈性背水一战”。 * **影响:** 这表明激光雷达单元的销售成本可能高于预期。Luminar还失去了与沃尔沃的合同。 * **Luminar知识产权的未来:** 有传言称Russell可能会成立新实体来收购Luminar的知识产权。奔驰此前曾与Luminar签署协议,因此其未来尚不确定。 **福特的电动汽车战略转变:** * **F-150 Lightning取消:** 福特已正式取消纯电动F-150 Lightning,该车型将作为带有发电机、目标续航超过700英里的“增程电动皮卡”回归。 * **转向燃油/混合动力:** 福特新的190亿美元产品路线图概述了到2030年大规模转向汽油和混合动力汽车的战略转变。 * **T3取消:** T3,F-150的纯电动全尺寸后继车型,已被取消。 * **工厂改造:** * 纯电动Lightning的生产将于今年在Rogue电动汽车中心结束,该中心随后将生产未来的增程电动汽车车型。 * 福特在田纳西州的工厂将转向生产一款未命名的经济型燃油皮卡。 * 肯塔基州一家全新的电动汽车电池工厂的1600名员工全部被解雇,之后福特将该工厂改造为为数据中心和其他公用事业(电池储能业务)生产电池,预计2027年末发货。 * **财务影响:** 福特在退出电动汽车业务的过程中将遭受195亿美元的利润损失,自2023年以来已在电动汽车上亏损了130亿美元。 * **首席执行官引言:** 首席执行官Jim Farley表示他们正在“转型”,因为“投入数十亿到未来,明知这些大型电动汽车永远不会盈利”是不可持续的。 * **与SK的合作结束:** 福特结束了与SK的合作,接管了格伦代尔工厂用于电池存储生产。 * **Mach-E:** Mach-E仍在生产中。 * **未来电动汽车计划:** 福特仍计划在2027年推出一个“通用电动汽车平台”,用于生产更小、更实惠的纯电动汽车。 **市场分析师与特斯拉的市场地位:** * **Dan Ives的乐观报告:** Dan Ives(Wedbush)发布了一份新报告,预测特斯拉在进入2026年时将迎来“巨大的一年”,并通过自动驾驶和机器人技术来定义其未来。 * **监管预测:** Ives预计2026年初联邦自动驾驶汽车框架将有所放松,更多的权力将赋予联邦监管机构(可能通过另一项行政命令)。 * **市值与股价:** Ives预测特斯拉在未来一年内市值可能达到2万亿美元,到2026年底(乐观情况)达到3万亿美元,在12-18个月内,其乐观股票目标价为800美元。 * **市场主导地位:** 他估计特斯拉在未来十年内将占据全球自动驾驶市场约70%的份额。主持人表示同意,并认为这个比例可能更高。 * **无人出租车车队数据:** 主持人估计特斯拉很容易达到10万辆无人出租车,而Waymo可能达到1万辆(即使是他们自己的预测)。这将使特斯拉占据91%的市场份额(即使行业其他公司拥有3万辆,特斯拉仍占77%)。 * **德克萨斯州许可证:** 特斯拉在德克萨斯州的无人出租车许可证是全州范围的,不限于奥斯汀。 * **奥斯汀24/7运营:** Ethan McKenna报告称,自12月11日以来,特斯拉在奥斯汀24/7运营无人出租车,在以前的停运时段(凌晨2-6点)平均等待时间为9.5分钟,与Waymo持平。 * **Uber作用被驳斥:** 主持人强烈驳斥了Uber将成为无人出租车革命最大赢家的观点,称其“荒谬”。他认为,无人驾驶服务由于消除了成本而具有根本性的优势,并且其他公司缺乏特斯拉在通用自动驾驶方面的规模化能力。 **特斯拉股票表现:** * **市值增长:** 自今年4月以来,特斯拉市值已增长超过8500亿美元。 * **近期表现:** 特斯拉收盘价为475.31美元,上涨3.56%,而纳斯达克100指数下跌0.51%,成交量比平均水平高出43%。

Here's a summary of the provided transcription, including every news item mentioned: **Tesla FSD & Robotaxi Developments:** * **Tesla's Lead:** The host believes everyone is "scary far behind Tesla" in autonomous driving. Kyle from Out of Spec (previously skeptical) acknowledging FSD V14's advancement is significant. * **Austin Robotaxi Testing:** The first two Tesla Model Ys have been seen testing in Austin with no occupants. These had different license plates. * **No Public Passenger Rides (Yet):** There are no confirmed reports of public passenger rides without safety monitors. * **Elon's Goal on Track:** The host believes Tesla is on track to hit Elon's goal of removing safety monitors in Austin by the end of the year. * **Robotaxi Pricing:** The host disagrees that robotaxi pricing will come down, suggesting Tesla likely priced rides as if monitors were absent from the start. Tesla already undercuts Waymo and Uber by over 50%. * **Fleet Scaling:** Quick fleet scaling is expected in January. * **2026 Excitement:** 2026 is shaping up to be Tesla's most exciting year ever, driven by autonomy. * **Internal Excitement:** Tesla employees (A show, West Moral, Eric - lead Cybercab engineer, Kamal Gupta - Optimus, Juliani Bars - Optimus AI lead) are openly celebrating the "unsupervised FSD scaling." * **OTA Update for Fleet:** The official Tesla account stated the fleet will "wake up via an OTA software update," meaning millions of HW4-capable Teslas can shift to unsupervised operation overnight. Potentially millions more if HW3 cars get FSD 14 light in Q1. * **"Slowly and Then All At Once":** The host believes the transition from the "slowly" phase to the "all at once" phase is imminent, with millions of cars becoming hardware and software capable of operating without a driver. * **Regulations:** Regulations are acknowledged as a limiting factor, but the host expects most to be sorted out over time, with Tesla ready to deliver updates. **Addressing Skepticism:** * **JerryRig Everything Criticism:** Zach from JerryRig Everything is claiming Tesla robotaxis are remote-operated and only shown on Twitter every six months to pump the stock. The host calls this "absurd" and a "moving goalpost," cautioning that a large audience doesn't mean accurate information. **Robotaxi Progress Timeline:** * **Austin Progress:** Jonathan's chart shows the timeline from Austin launch (June 22nd) to safety monitors removed for testing (December 14th) was 175 days (under 6 months). * **Future City Shrinkage:** The hope is that this timeline will shrink for each new city. * **Driverless Paid Rides:** While testing without monitors is a milestone, fully monitorless paid customer rides are the next huge step, which the host considers a "foregone conclusion" soon. **FSD v14.2.1.2.5 Updates & User Experience:** * **User Criticism:** Colin reported FSD 14 to be "trash," with the car hesitating, bouncing lines, and preferring the last version. * **Host's Perspective:** The host argues that issues like speed changes, parking, and lane changes (for some users) are not "safety critical" and shouldn't stop Tesla from going fully driverless. * **"Solved" Definition:** The debate over "FSD solved" should distinguish between perfection in every situation vs. being "good enough to go driverless and get you from A to B safely." * **Troubleshooting:** Many suggested Colin calibrate his cameras. * **Safety Critical Situations:** These are described as "incredibly rare for the fleet at scale" and "near zero in Austin" due to focused effort. * **Varied Conditions:** Anecdotes show FSD working in snow, fog, rain, and at night. * **Bears' Argument:** The only remaining argument for bears is Tesla's lack of scale, which is expected to change in H1 2026. * **Public Awareness:** CERN's chart suggests only 0.1% of the US population (about 500,000 FSD users) knows what's coming. * **Elon's Prediction:** Elon's prediction "last December" that the "brutal reality" of Tesla's software advantage would hit like a tsunami towards the "end of next year" (presumably 2024 or 2025) is called accurate. * **v14.2.1.2.5 Improvements:** Users report significantly improved speed profiles, "Mad Max mode" no longer capped at 10 mph over limit, more confident lane changes, and zero interventions for merging, switching lanes, and passing. * **Road Debris Avoidance:** A video showed FSD 14.2.1 successfully avoiding road debris on the highway. Tesla engineers noted vision-only capabilities make this reasoning possible due to dense context. * **CNET Review:** CNET reported driving over 100 miles with FSD without touching the wheel, calling it "remarkable" and the future. It excelled in challenging situations (freeways, cable car tracks, cyclists, construction signs, Lombard Street) but was too reserved at stop signs (blamed on NHTSA). **Grok Integration & Navigation:** * **Conversational Navigation:** The new Grok integration with Tesla's in-car navigation allows users to talk to the car to find places (bathrooms, pharmacies, restaurants, ATMs, car washes), adjust routes, and search for tourist sites or long-term parking, all conversationally. * **Future Potential:** This "wild stuff" extrapolates to a robotaxi experience where users simply state their needs without screen interaction. Future possibilities include Tesla signing deals with companies for recommendations. **Tesla Model Y Range Test:** * **Record Range:** The new Model Y Standard Range crushed Edmunds' range test, achieving 337 miles, beating its EPA estimate of 321 miles. This is the best result any Model Y has ever achieved on their test. * **Improved Accuracy:** Edmunds noted that from 2018-2023, Tesla models often failed to meet EPA estimates, but now range estimates are much more accurate. **Tesla Energy (Megapack) Expansion:** * **Spy Agreement:** Spy, an independent European leader in the energy industry (55,000 employees), signed a new 3-year European framework agreement with Tesla to implement battery storage projects using Megapack solutions. * **Streamlined Deployment:** This agreement standardizes legal and operational conditions, helping Tesla deploy more Megapacks and streamline future projects across Europe. **LiDAR Industry & Luminar Bankruptcy:** * **Luminar Chapter 11:** Luminar has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, aiming to sell off its LiDAR business (already sold its semiconductor subsidiary) and will eventually cease to exist. * **Founder's Resignation:** Founder Austin Russell resigned after a code of business conduct inquiry. * **Mark Rober Video:** The host views the Mark Rober video (which made Tesla FSD look bad) as a "fraudulent Hail Mary" by Luminar. * **Implications:** This suggests the cost of goods sold for LiDAR units might be higher than perceived. Luminar also lost its Volvo contract. * **Future of Luminar IP:** There's chatter that Russell might set up a new entity to buy Luminar's IP. Mercedes previously signed a deal with Luminar, so their future is TBD. **Ford's EV Strategy Pivot:** * **F-150 Lightning Cancellation:** Ford has officially cancelled the fully electric F-150 Lightning, which will return as an "extended range EV pickup" with a generator, targeting over 700 miles of range. * **Shift to Gas/Hybrid:** Ford's new $19 billion product roadmap outlines a major pivot to gasoline and hybrid vehicles by 2030. * **T3 Cancellation:** The T3, a full-size electric successor to the current F-150, has been cancelled. * **Plant Conversions:** * Production of the fully electric Lightning will end this year at the Rogue EV center, which will then build the future ER EV model. * Ford's Tennessee plant will shift to building an unnamed affordable gas-powered pickup. * All 1600 employees at a brand new EV battery plant in Kentucky were laid off before Ford converts it to make batteries for data centers and other utilities (battery energy storage business), with shipments expected late 2027. * **Financial Impact:** Ford will take a $19.5 billion hit to its profit as it transitions away from the EV business, having lost $13 billion on EVs since 2023. * **CEO Quote:** Jim Farley stated they are "pivoting" because "plowing billions into the future knowing these large EVs will never make money" isn't sustainable. * **SK Partnership End:** Ford ended its partnership with SK, taking over the Glendale facility for battery storage production. * **Mach-E:** The Mach-E remains in production. * **Future EV Plans:** Ford still plans a "universal EV platform" for 2027 for smaller, more affordable pure EVs. **Market Analyst & Tesla's Market Position:** * **Dan Ives' Bullish Note:** Dan Ives (Wedbush) issued a new note forecasting a "monster year" for Tesla heading into 2026, defining its future through autonomy and robotics. * **Regulatory Prediction:** Ives expects an early 2026 easing of the federal framework for autonomous vehicles, with more power going to federal regulators (possibly via another executive order). * **Market Cap & Stock Price:** Ives predicts Tesla could reach a $2 trillion market cap over the coming year and $3 trillion by end of 2026 (bull case), with an $800 bull case stock target over 12-18 months. * **Market Dominance:** He estimates Tesla will own ~70% of the global autonomous market over the next decade. The host agrees and suggests it could be even higher. * **Robotaxi Fleet Math:** The host estimates Tesla could easily reach 100,000 robotaxis, while Waymo might reach 10,000 (even by their own projections). This would give Tesla 91% of the market (or 77% even if the rest of the industry has 30,000 units). * **Texas Permit:** Tesla's robotaxi permit in Texas is statewide, not limited to Austin. * **24/7 Austin Operation:** Ethan McKenna reports Tesla is operating robotaxis 24/7 in Austin since December 11th, with average wait times of 9.5 minutes during previously downtime hours (2-6 am), matching Waymo. * **Uber's Role Debunked:** The host strongly refutes the idea that Uber will be the biggest winner of the robotaxi revolution, calling it "ridiculous." He argues that driverless services are fundamentally superior due to cost removal, and other companies lack the scaling capabilities of Tesla for generalized autonomy. **Tesla Stock Performance:** * **Market Cap Growth:** Tesla stock has added over $850 billion in market cap since April this year. * **Recent Performance:** Tesla closed at $475.31, up 3.56%, while the NDX was down 0.51%, with volume 43% above average.