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Lenny's Podcast - Everyone’s an engineer now: Inside v0’s mission to create 100 million builders | Guillermo Rauch

发布时间:2025-04-13 11:00:00   原节目
以下是内容的中文翻译: 在Lenny's Podcast的这期节目中,Lenny Rachitsky采访了Vercel的创始人兼CEO Guillermo Rauch,讨论了人工智能对产品开发的变革性影响,重点是Vercel的V0,一个AI驱动的网站构建工具。 Rauch强调,V0旨在通过使更广泛的人群,超越传统开发者,能够构建和发布真正的产品,从而实现软件开发的民主化。受到ChatGPT等模型的启发,V0利用人工智能简化了网页设计和开发的过程。 Rauch分享说,V0经历了指数级的增长,拥有超过130万用户。他强调了V0社区,用户可以在这里分享和复刻项目,从而培养一种类似于开源的协作式迭代产品构建方法。这种方法颠覆了传统的软件开发流程,从用户的意图(通过提示词表达)开始,最终生成代码。 讨论涉及了在人工智能驱动的环境下,产品经理和工程师的角色演变。Rauch设想了一个未来,产品构建者能够直接塑造和改进产品,模糊设计、工程和产品管理之间的界限。他认为,诸如口才、对基本逻辑的理解以及对软件底层符号系统的知识等技能将至关重要。 Rauch认为,虽然像CSS翻译这样的专业编程任务将越来越自动化,但理解底层概念(例如,CSS、布局、数据库)将使人们能够有效地影响AI模型。他鼓励学习JavaScript,这是Web开发的“通用语”,并理解基础架构。 Rauch强调学习的重要性。他鼓励他的孩子们专注于数学和口才,以及展示他们的想法和向他人展示。他建议通过提示词学习编码,但理解提示词背后的代码概念至关重要。 Rauch分享说,即使是Vercel工程团队以外的员工,也被授权使用V0为产品开发做出贡献。他设想一个未来,人工智能与软件同义,嵌入到开发过程的每个方面。 他提供了成功使用V0的技巧,包括在提示词方面要有雄心壮志,从现有设计中汲取灵感,并保持开放的心态。他强调迭代和实验的重要性,建议用户向AI提供反馈以完善输出。他还谈到不要犹豫进行自我推广,并对发布后的产品进行诚实评估。 他分享说,V0允许用户导入zip文件中的代码库。它可以进行全栈开发并连接到API。它可以无缝连接到Vercel Marketplace。 对话转到品味这个话题,Rauch将其描述为一种可以通过接触各种各样的产品和用户体验来培养的技能。他提倡“曝光时间”,鼓励团队观察用户与其产品的互动,以深入了解设计和可用性。 他还谈到了V0的局限性。他说,虽然它可以做很多事情,但大型代码库对人工智能来说是一个挑战。他指出,V0不是为懒人准备的,它是一个赋能者和创造者。他谈到了在办公室为AI创造一个空间并进行实验。 最后,Rauch分享了他对未来的愿景,在这个未来,每个人都可以将他们的想法变为现实,技术可以增强用户体验,使产品更快、更高质量、更可靠。他鼓励听众通过分享他们的反馈和构建创新产品来为这个未来做出贡献。

In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, Lenny Rachitsky interviews Guillermo Rauch, the founder and CEO of Vercel, about the transformative impact of AI on product development, with a focus on Vercel's V0, an AI-powered website building tool. Rauch emphasizes that V0 aims to democratize software development by enabling a wider range of individuals, beyond traditional developers, to build and ship real products. Inspired by the capabilities of models like ChatGPT, V0 leverages AI to simplify the process of web design and development. Rauch shares that V0 has experienced exponential growth, with over 1.3 million users. He highlights the V0 Community, where users share and fork projects, fostering a collaborative and iterative approach to product building akin to open source. This approach inverts the traditional software development workflow, starting with the user's intent, expressed through prompts, and resulting in code. The discussion addresses the evolving roles of product managers and engineers in an AI-driven landscape. Rauch envisions a future where product builders have the ability to directly shape and refine products, blurring the lines between design, engineering, and product management. He suggests that skills such as eloquence, an understanding of fundamental logic, and knowledge of the symbolic systems underlying software will be crucial. Rauch believes that while specialized programming tasks like CSS translation will be increasingly automated, understanding the underlying concepts (e.g., CSS, layout, databases) will enable individuals to influence AI models effectively. He encourages learning to code in JavaScript, the "lingua franca" of web development, and understanding foundational infrastructure. Rauch emphasizes that learning is essential. He encourages his children to focus on math and eloquence, as well as presenting their ideas and presenting to others. He recommends learning to code through prompts, but understanding the concepts of the code behind the prompt is crucial. Rauch shares that Vercel employees, even outside the engineering team, are empowered to contribute to product development using V0. He envisions a future where AI is synonymous with software, embedded in every aspect of the development process. He offers tips for succeeding with V0, including being ambitious in prompts, drawing inspiration from existing designs, and maintaining an open mind. He stresses the importance of iteration and experimentation, suggesting users provide feedback to the AI to refine the output. He talks about not hesitating on self-promotion and honest evaluation of products once they are shipped. He shares that V0 allows users to import codebases in zip files. It can do full-stack development and connect to APIs. It seamless connects to the Vercel Marketplace. The conversation shifts to the topic of taste, which Rauch describes as a skill that can be developed through exposure to a wide range of products and user experiences. He advocates for "exposure hours," encouraging teams to observe users interacting with their products to gain insights into design and usability. He also talks about the limitations of V0. He says that while it can do many things, large codebases present a challenge for AI. V0, he states, is not for the lazy, it is an enabler and creator. He talks about creating a space for AI in the office and to experiment. Finally, Rauch shares his vision of a future where everyone can bring their ideas to life and where technology enhances the user experience, making products faster, higher quality, and more reliable. He encourages listeners to contribute to this future by sharing their feedback and building innovative products.