a16z Podcast - The Critical Technology in Finding Critical Materials
发布时间:2025-02-11 11:00:00
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这期A16Z播客的节目邀请了A16Z的普通合伙人康妮·陈(Connie Chan),以及来自钴矿勘探公司Cobalt的三位专家:技术副总裁汤姆·亨特(Tom Hunt)、采矿和土木工程师恩菲凯·马凯(Nphikei Makai)和 GS科学副总裁乔治·吉尔克里斯特(George Gilchrist)。 Cobalt公司使用人工智能和人类智能来发现关键矿物。讨论的重点是能源转型推动的对关键金属日益增长的需求,寻找和提取这些材料的挑战,以及技术如何革新矿物勘探。
康妮·陈强调了采矿在现代生活中的根本作用,她说:“如果不能种植,那就必须开采。”她强调了铜、锂和镍等金属日益增长的需求,这些金属对于电动汽车、数据中心和其他新兴技术至关重要。由于发现、开发和运营一个矿山的过程漫长,可能需要几十年时间,因此情况非常紧急。鉴于未来几十年预计会出现供应缺口,现在就需要寻找新的金属矿藏。
Cobalt团队深入探讨了金属勘探的复杂性。他们强调,金属虽然在地壳中储量丰富,但很难找到可以经济有效且可持续地提取的集中矿藏。浓缩金属所需的地质条件是独特的,并且因所寻找的金属而异。没有一种“公式”可以用于发现矿藏,这使得勘探充满挑战。
乔治·吉尔克里斯特指出,发现新矿变得越来越困难。许多地表矿藏已经被发现,因此需要使用更先进的工具和数据来探索地表之下。从历史上看,愿意承担风险并探索非常规地区的小公司往往有所发现。勘探是扩大为技术提供动力所需资源的新方向。
汤姆·亨特详细阐述了人工智能如何改变勘探。他强调了整合各种数据来源(从卫星图像到地球化学数据)以识别有前景区域的重要性。人工智能算法用于图像识别、分类和数据清理,以从这些大型数据集中提取洞察力。最终目标是通过精确定位最有希望的地点来优化钻探,因为钻探成本非常高昂。
讨论强调了高质量、结构化数据的重要性。许多历史数据都是非结构化的,存在于手写记录、纸质档案和各种格式中。Cobalt正在投资数字化这些记录,必要时进行翻译,并提取可以被人工智能算法使用的结构化数据。
Cobalt方法的一个关键要素是地质科学家和数据科学家之间的合作。这些团队共同解释数据、构建模型并指导勘探工作。恩菲凯·马凯强调了在这两个学科之间创建共同语言和理解的重要性,甚至创造新词汇来弥合这两个领域的差距。
Cobalt还在硬件方面进行创新。他们正在机载系统上使用高光谱成像技术,以捕获地球表面详细的化学信息。这些数据与来自地质学家的地面实况数据相结合,可以创建数据驱动的地质图。
乔治·吉尔克里斯特提供了人工智能令他感到惊讶的例子。他指出,人工智能算法可以识别不完整数据集中元素之间的关系,从而使Cobalt能够利用原本无法使用的数据。他还强调了数字化地图带来的效率提升,使地质学家能够快速访问和查询信息。
讨论涵盖了在数据丰富的世界中如何优先处理信息。地质科学家在特定环境中的经验至关重要,地质科学家和数据科学家之间的合作对于成功至关重要。它还指出,数据驱动的决策是使用测试来从钻探和评估的每个孔或区域中获取尽可能多的信息。
然后,讨论转向了采矿的未来。该团队指出,他们希望通过利用机器学习的信息进行数据驱动的决策,减少对采矿、废物和资源的需求,从而改变采矿的形象,使其成为更具科技感和环境可持续性的事业。
最后,嘉宾们谈到了关键矿物,强调铜和锂对于电气化最为重要。稀土元素和供应链集中的矿物也在关键矿物的重要性中发挥作用。他们还谈到了赞比亚等国家的机会,Cobalt的投资正在刺激这些国家的工业化和经济增长。该团队非常努力,并取得了长足的进步,以改变该国采矿的形象。播客以乐观的态度结束,强调了应用新技术来解决矿物勘探挑战并确保关键材料可持续供应的重要性。
The A16Z podcast episode features a conversation with Connie Chan, a General Partner at A16Z, and three experts from Cobalt, a mineral exploration company using AI and human intelligence to discover critical materials: Tom Hunt, VP of Technology; Nphikei Makai, mining and civil engineer; and George Gilchrist, VP of GS Sciences. The discussion centers on the increasing demand for critical metals driven by the energy transition, the challenges of finding and extracting these materials, and how technology is revolutionizing mineral exploration.
Connie Chan emphasizes the fundamental role of mining in modern life, stating, "If you can't grow it, you must mine it." She highlights the growing demand for metals like copper, lithium, and nickel, crucial for electric vehicles, data centers, and other emerging technologies. The urgency stems from the lengthy process involved in discovering, developing, and operating a mine, which can take decades. Given the projected supply gap in the coming decades, finding new metal deposits needs to happen now.
The Cobalt team delves into the complexities of metal exploration. They emphasize that metals, while abundant in the Earth's crust, are difficult to find in concentrated deposits that can be cost-effectively and sustainably extracted. The geological conditions necessary for concentrating metals are unique and vary depending on the metal sought. There is no single "formula" for making a discovery, making exploration challenging.
George Gilchrist notes that discovering new mines is becoming increasingly difficult. Many surface deposits have already been found, necessitating the use of more advanced tools and data to explore beneath the surface. Historically, smaller companies willing to take risks and explore unconventional areas have often made discoveries. Exploration is the new horizon to expand what is needed to power technology.
Tom Hunt elaborates on how AI is transforming exploration. He emphasizes the importance of integrating diverse data sources, from satellite imagery to geochemical data, to identify promising areas. AI algorithms are used for image recognition, classification, and data cleaning to extract insights from these large datasets. The ultimate goal is to optimize drilling, which can be extremely expensive, by pinpointing the most prospective locations.
The discussion highlights the importance of high-quality, structured data. Much of the historical data is unstructured, existing in handwritten records, paper archives, and diverse formats. Cobalt is investing in digitizing these records, translating them when necessary, and extracting structured data that can be used by AI algorithms.
A key element of Cobalt's approach is the collaboration between geoscientists and data scientists. These teams work together to interpret data, build models, and guide exploration efforts. Nphikei Makai emphasizes the importance of creating a shared language and understanding between these disciplines, even coining new words to bridge the gap between the two areas.
Cobalt is also innovating on the hardware front. They are utilizing hyperspectral imaging on airborne systems to capture detailed chemical information about the Earth's surface. This data, combined with ground truth data from geologists, allows for the creation of data-driven geological maps.
George Gilchrist provides examples of how AI has surprised him. He notes that AI algorithms can identify relationships between elements in incomplete datasets, allowing Cobalt to utilize data that would otherwise be unusable. He also emphasizes the efficiency gains from digitizing maps, enabling geologists to quickly access and interrogate information.
The conversation covers prioritizing information in a data-rich world. The geoscientists' experience in specific environments is critical, and the collaboration between geoscientists and data scientists is pivotal to success. It also notes that it is data driven decision making that uses testing to get the most information possible out of each hole or area that is drilled into and evaluated.
The discussion then shifts to the future of mining. The team notes that they want to change the image of mining and make it a more tech forward and environmentally sustainable undertaking by leveraging data driven decisions with information from machine learning to reduce the need for mining, waste and resources.
Finally, the guests cover critical minerals, highlighting copper and lithium as the most crucial for electrification. Rare earth elements and minerals with concentrated supply chains also play a role in the importance of critical minerals. They also touch on the opportunities for countries like Zambia, where Cobalt's investments are stimulating industrialization and economic growth. The team has worked very hard and with great strides to change the image of mining in the country. The podcast ends on a note of optimism, emphasizing the importance of applying new technologies to solve the challenges of mineral exploration and ensure a sustainable supply of critical materials.